As they are both under one-way contract (correct me if I'm wrong) and play a similar game. I feel if we have to send Stralman through waivers, he'll be claimed for certain, so I'm just curious at who you feel has a better chance at making the big club?
Mark Giordano Age 25, ht: 6'0, wt: 203
Cap Hit: 0.892, Amount this Year: 1.000
Last season: 58GP, 2G, 17A, +2
Anton Stralman Age 23, ht: 6'1, wt: 180
Cap Hit: 0.732, Amount this Year: 0.665
That way you always have a skater with a shutdown guy, and it balances out the D-core pretty well.
Agreed.
As of now I think Pardy is the odd man out. I think he is going to have to prove in the newt few exhibition games that he is a better choice than Stralman or Gio.
That leaves every pair with a right handed shot playing the right side except the top pair. Phaneuf played RD last year and why not continue developing him there. As well it sets him up for the one timer in the attacking zone.
PP D lines
Bowmeester - Phaneuf
Giordano - Stralman
PK D Lines
Regehr - Sarich
Bowmeester - Phaneuf
This is how I'd like it to play out but who knows.
Regehr paired with Stralman? Are you guys ****ing stupid? Regehr has to be half of our shutdown pair... Stralman has to be half of the pair that stays furthest from teh opposition top line
Regehr paired with Stralman? Are you guys ****ing stupid? Regehr has to be half of our shutdown pair... Stralman has to be half of the pair that stays furthest from teh opposition top line
I'm more than confident Regehr can make up for Stralman's defensive gaffs. And no I'm not stupid to think Regehr when paired with Aucoin (who by your own admission was retardedly slow and in no way capable of shutting anything or anyone down) formed an admirable shutdown duo. What is stupid is to dismiss Stralman's defensive capabilities as useless (which is all speculation right now) when playing with a dynamo like Regehr and under a new system.
Regehr paired with Stralman? Are you guys ****ing stupid? Regehr has to be half of our shutdown pair... Stralman has to be half of the pair that stays furthest from teh opposition top line
I have to agree. The Stralman trade still perplexes me as we seem to have that type of player in Gio.
regehr-bouwmeester - Both Left Handed Defenseman (Requires one of them playing their offside)
phaneuf-pardy - Both Left Handed Defenseman (Requires one of them playing their offside although Phaneuf was playig RD last season)
sarich-stralman - Both Right Handed Defenseman [b](Requires one of them playing their offside)
gio
I'm more than confident Regehr can make up for Stralman's defensive gaffs. And no I'm not stupid to think Regehr when paired with Aucoin (who by your own admission was retardedly slow and in no way capable of shutting anything or anyone down) formed an admirable shutdown duo. What is stupid is to dismiss Stralman's defensive capabilities as useless (which is all speculation right now) when playing with a dynamo like Regehr and under a new system.
I have never said anything like that about Aucoin except he did lack foot speed... but he played fine defensively last season... Aucoin was not elite but he was solid and knew how to play the angles and stayed poised under pressure... Stralman simply is not as good as Aucoin defensively... he isn't as calm either... Stralman is more comparable to Giordano but not as good defensively... and Giordano was pushed to the 3rd pairing because he couldn't handle the defensive load when in the top 4... and to say Regehr/Aucoin were actually a shutdown duo is a bit of a stretch since Keenan didn't match lines and quite often Pardy was out there getting burned by the oppositions top lines... Stralman has played enough NHL games to clearly state his is not great defensively... Stralman is also not a top 4 defenseman at this point in time by any stretch of the imagination... Stralman should be paired with Pardy
I think Stralman makes it as the number 7 guy for the start of the season. I think he has a higher potential then Gio and by midseason may make him expendable.
regehr-bouwmeester - Both Left Handed Defenseman (Requires one of them playing their offside)
phaneuf-pardy - Both Left Handed Defenseman (Requires one of them playing their offside although Phaneuf was playig RD last season)
sarich-stralman - Both Right Handed Defenseman [b](Requires one of them playing their offside)
gio
if this setup is used, i think stralman and sarich will be ones who will have the toughest time adjusting. they havent played together before. regehr and jbouw have been playing together all through training camp and should be the 1st defensive pair for calgary heading into the new season. phaneuf and pardy have been playing together a lot especially during the end of last season so their chemistry should be fine.
you cant always get all of your defensemen playing their natural sides
edit: i agree with what flamesfan12 said, i can see stralman being #7 to start with gio as #6 and then by midseason gio will most likely be shipped off.
That leaves every pair with a right handed shot playing the right side except the top pair. Phaneuf played RD last year and why not continue developing him there. As well it sets him up for the one timer in the attacking zone.
PP D lines
Bowmeester - Phaneuf
Giordano - Stralman
PK D Lines
Regehr - Sarich
Bowmeester - Phaneuf
This is how I'd like it to play out but who knows.
Regehr paired with Stralman? Are you guys ****ing stupid? Regehr has to be half of our shutdown pair... Stralman has to be half of the pair that stays furthest from teh opposition top line
Hey if we are in dire need of shutting guys down during a game, im all for a regehr-bouwmeester/sarich pairing. However Regehr was most effective when paired with a guy who can move the puck(leopold), something stralman is actually good at. I think it would end up being a pretty solid pair.
I'd take Gio. As a Leafs fan, I loved Stralman when he was up, but his style of play won't translate well to the Flames' style of play which is rugged, punishing play. Stralman is a speedy, non-physical defenseman who acts more like a 4th forward than he does a defenseman.
If Kronwall's name is going to be thrown in this mix, then I think Pelech's name needs to be mentioned as well. There are those that feel Pelech is better than Pardy, he is a better passer for sure.
As for the original post, I would pick Stralman for the simple reason alone that IMO he has a greater potential upside than Gio does. However Gio is all around better defenceman right now and is more reliable. But with the Flames depth at D we could probably afford the luxury of moving Gio and wait for Stralman to reach his potential upside (which again I feel is higher than Gio's). This obviously would only be done if management felt the same about Stralman. I doubt Pardy will be moved, he just an extension with the club in the offseason.
And I agree with that Stralman and Regehr would be a bad pairing. Regardless of how good Regehr is, your only as strong as your weakest link. Regehr is counted on as being one of top shutdown men in the league, it would be hard for him to maintain that level while playing with Stralman I would think.
I'd take Gio. As a Leafs fan, I loved Stralman when he was up, but his style of play won't translate well to the Flames' style of play which is rugged, punishing play. Stralman is a speedy, non-physical defenseman who acts more like a 4th forward than he does a defenseman.
Stralman and Giordano play almost the same game except Giordano tries (and usually fails) to play a physical game
