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best offensive team #2

View Poll Results: whos the best offensive team
pittsburgh 35 36.08%
philadelphia 18 18.56%
boston 13 13.40%
detroit 15 15.46%
san jose 2 2.06%
chicago 6 6.19%
calgary 0 0%
vancouver 6 6.19%
atlanta 0 0%
new jersey 2 2.06%
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08-30-2009, 10:18 PM
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best offensive team #2

whos the best offensive team

list so far
1.washington

ive made #3

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08-30-2009, 10:23 PM
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Add Ottawa.
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Add Ottawa.
what 1 line for the past few seasons and some offseason moves qualifies as offense?
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Pittsburgh should be first.
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Pittsburgh should be first.
washington got like 40% on the first one pittsburgh like 20%
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Atlanta? Really?
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Atlanta? Really?
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Atlanta? Really?
Atlanta only had 8 goals less than Pittsburgh and some have Pittsburgh as the top 1 or 2 for some reason when they weren't even in the top 5 in goals for last year.
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what 1 line for the past few seasons and some offseason moves qualifies as offense?
Just to give you some info :

Alfie = 37 Goals - 96 Pts
Spezza = 33 Goals - 96 Pts
Heatley = 47 Goals - 94 Pts
Kovalev = 28 Goals - 71 Pts
Fisher = 22 Goals - 48 Pts
Shannon = 11 Goals - 32 Pts (based on 2-3 stretches of games)
Kelly = 12 Goals - 31 Pts
Foligno = 15 Goals - 27 Pts (based on 2 first season as a 20-21 y/o)
Regin = wildcard

Kuba = 8 Goals - 37 Pts
Campoli = 8 Goals - 31 Pts
Phillips = 5 Goals - 22 Pts
Picard = 7 Goals - 25 Pts
Karlsson = wildcard

Do you know what it is? It's the average production for those players since the lock-out (portions of 82 games). Potentially 7-9 forwards over 35 Pts, and 4 of them over 70 Pts...
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what 1 line for the past few seasons and some offseason moves qualifies as offense?
They have some pretty decent players beyond those three. However, how does it make sense to not vote for the Sens because they rely on three players on one line, but it makes sense to vote for Pittsburgh despite the fact that they rely on two centers (three maybe)?
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Pittsburgh has the top end talent, but Philly's offensive depth is virtually unmatched league wide. Vote goes to Philly for the depth, but it really is a coin-toss.
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I'm just suggesting the add, there are plenty of better offensive teams out there. The notion of the top three on the Sens has been completely blown out of proportion. They are far from being the only productive players on the team. Besides, the addition of Kovalev and the progression of the likes of Foligno, Regin and Spezza should be taken into account.
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Without being a homer... I mean, come on, the Ducks aren't in there while Vancouver and Atlanta are? In terms of top 6 forwards, the Ducks are maybe as good as any team.

Ryan - Getzlaf - Perry
Lupul - Koivu - Selanne

That's quite a top six. The depth isn't great, but guys like Christensen and Ebbett brings some depth in terms of offence while Niedermayer and Whitney brings offence from the back end.
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Without being a homer... I mean, come on, the Ducks aren't in there while Vancouver and Atlanta are? In terms of top 6 forwards, the Ducks are maybe as good as any team.

Ryan - Getzlaf - Perry
Lupul - Koivu - Selanne

That's quite a top six. The depth isn't great, but guys like Christensen and Ebbett brings some depth in terms of offence while Niedermayer and Whitney brings offence from the back end.
both atlanta and vancouver scored more than anaheim last season
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I voted Detroit, the team that scored more than 20 more goals than any other team in the league last season. I don't think loosing Hossa is going to subtract 20 goals.
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I voted Chicago.

I based that on the teams overall ability to produce offence. Detroit and Philly are really close. Chicago has players like Hossa, Toews, Versteeg, and Sharp who are strong two way forwards. This is a team that will maintain possession and score.

Kane, Toews, Hossa, Sharp, Versteeg
Barker, Keith, Campbell
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Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Franzen, Holmstrom, Cleary, Filppula
Kronwall, Lidstrom, Rafalski
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Briere, Richards, Carter, Gagne, Hartnell, Giroux
Timonen, Pronger, Coburn, Carle
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Vancouver


The sisters, Burrows, Kesler, Bernier, Raymond, Samuelsson, Demitra and the one and only, Kyle Wellfed.

I forgot Sakic. He'll sign with the Canucks in January for 1 million.

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I went with the Flyers on this one.
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Just to give you some info :

Alfie = 37 Goals - 96 Pts
Spezza = 33 Goals - 96 Pts
Heatley = 47 Goals - 94 Pts
Kovalev = 28 Goals - 71 Pts
Fisher = 22 Goals - 48 Pts
Shannon = 11 Goals - 32 Pts (based on 2-3 stretches of games)
Kelly = 12 Goals - 31 Pts
Foligno = 15 Goals - 27 Pts (based on 2 first season as a 20-21 y/o)
Regin = wildcard

Kuba = 8 Goals - 37 Pts
Campoli = 8 Goals - 31 Pts
Phillips = 5 Goals - 22 Pts
Picard = 7 Goals - 25 Pts
Karlsson = wildcard

Do you know what it is? It's the average production for those players since the lock-out (portions of 82 games). Potentially 7-9 forwards over 35 Pts, and 4 of them over 70 Pts...
Jeff Carter = 46 Goals - 84 Pts
Mike Richards = 30 Goals - 80 Pts
Simon Gagne = 34 Goals - 74 Pts
Scott Hartnell = 30 Goals - 60 Pts
Kimmo Timmonen = 43 Pts
Claude Giroux = 27 Pts in 42 Games
Chris Pronger = 48 Pts
Daniel Briere = 25 Pts in 29 Games (like 71 Pts in 82 Games)

Expect better numbers from everyone (especially Giroux) this year, Gagne will have about the same output.

That being said, I think Chicago's offense is No.2
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Pittsburgh has the top end talent, but Philly's offensive depth is virtually unmatched league wide. Vote goes to Philly for the depth, but it really is a coin-toss.
He's right.

I go with Philly on this one.


Honorable mentions:
1. Ottawa (top line)
2. Detroit (top line)
3. Pittsburgh (Crosby, Malkin, Staal)
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I chose Philli but I meant to choose Boston.

Lucic Savard Kessel
Wheeler Krecji Ryder
Kobasew Bergeron Sturm/Recchi

Every player there aside from Lucic(atleast for now) are 55 + pts players

Imo Philli's top 9 offensive took a big blow with the loss of Knuble and Lupul. They have more of a top 6 now.
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I chose Philli but I meant to choose Boston.

Lucic Savard Kessel
Wheeler Krecji Ryder
Kobasew Bergeron Sturm/Recchi

Every player there aside from Lucic(atleast for now) are 55 + pts players

Imo Philli's top 9 offensive took a big blow with the loss of Knuble and Lupul. They have more of a top 6 now.
That's an overstatement.
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That's an overstatement.
Yes it did, considering I was talking about the offense of their top 9.

Now they have

Gagner Richards Hartnell
Giroux Carter XXX
XXX Briere XXX

Last year year they had a top 9 of

Hartnell Richards Lupul
Gagner Carter Knuble
Giroux Briere XXX

It's a huge difference IMO and I doubt JVR will come in and just rip it up.

They have a great top 6 thats for sure better than probably 2/3rds of the league, but their top 9 imo opinion isn't as deep as it was last year.
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Yes it did, considering I was talking about the offense of their top 9.

Now they have

Gagner Richards Hartnell
Giroux Carter XXX
XXX Briere XXX
Lappy can play on the 3rd line, but he's more suited for the 4th line. Philly fans are going to love Lappy. It was sad to see him leave Colorado.
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