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06-26-2008, 02:59 PM
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Again, the offer sheet isn't valid and there is no issue of match until the player signs it. If you want to work a trade, you'd be best to go to the team before he has signed an offer sheet (your's or another team's).
This is why I'm pessimistic about any of these guys. If their respective teams honestly were ready to move them, they'd have worked a trade already. If they are worth spit(like the ones we are discussing) then they are as good as signed at this point. The RFA dance is simply the final step in contract negotiation for young players between contracts. Its a chance for players and GM's alike to run a quick market price check before coming to terms on a contract.

If FLA didn't want Bowmeester back, they'd have dangled him on draft day, if not sooner.
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There most likley be compensation. http://www.nhlscap.com/offer_sheets.htm

Fritsche's qualifying offer was $787,500. Unless he's just looking for a $50,000 raise, the Jackets will receive compensation. Given his likely pay, the question is whether the team is willing to give him up for a third round pick.
i like Fritsche, but i would probably do that. a 3rd in next years draft would be nice to have and we have a lot of players who can do what Fritsche does.
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06-26-2008, 03:15 PM
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Again, the offer sheet isn't valid and there is no issue of match until the player signs it. If you want to work a trade, you'd be best to go to the team before he has signed an offer sheet (your's or another team's).
I am fully aware of how the process works....my point is rather than trying to sign him (or any other player to an offer sheet), with the team holding the RFA's rights (in Bouwmeester's case, Florida) having the final say in if you get the player or not, why not make a trade to ensure you get that player you want.
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06-26-2008, 03:58 PM
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I can't believe I'm writing this...

I wonder if the Ducks would let us trade for one of their RFA's if we also absorbed Todd Marchant's salary.
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06-26-2008, 04:08 PM
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I am fully aware of how the process works....my point is rather than trying to sign him (or any other player to an offer sheet), with the team holding the RFA's rights (in Bouwmeester's case, Florida) having the final say in if you get the player or not, why not make a trade to ensure you get that player you want.
Yes, that certainly is a strategy, but it still ultimately depends on whether the team is willing to make the trade, and that is dependent on whether they believe he's likely to be signed to an offer sheet that (1) they won't want to match and (2) that they don't feel will sufficiently compensate them.

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I wonder if the Ducks would let us trade for one of their RFA's if we also absorbed Todd Marchant's salary.
Who do you want other than Perry because I don't think taking Marchant would make up for the Ducks losing Perry and we really don't have much that would interest the Ducks unless Burke thinks Brule could play second line center.
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06-26-2008, 09:23 PM
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[quote=RDriesen16;14581181]i like Fritsche, but i would probably do that. a 3rd in next years draft would be nice to have


If you follow Hitchcocks carrer with the development of young players it has been poor. Proven once again when he left Philly. Carter and Richards emerged as stars.


Thats what worries me about players like Fritsche who have not been able to excel in his natural position with any length of ice-time. Young players need ice-time to develop. Look what Carter and Richards have done since Hitchcock left and they got ice-time, they both turned into stars.

I know it was only junior hockey and the world juniors but when Fritsche played in any big game he was better then them, not saying he is now but I hope CBJ are not that ignorant to think he can't be the same player he once was given the chance Carter and Richards have gotten in this league now.

Truthfully ,I think his avg. numbers considering his ice-time are damn good. I can only imagine what would happen if he would see 18-20 minutes a game like some of our other veterans. I just hope CBJ doesn't have to find out watching him or any other CBJ young players play and excel somewhere else.

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06-30-2008, 09:40 AM
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Is Porty trying to drop a hint here or am I reading too much into it.

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The "art" of the offer sheet is to target an NHL club that has salary cap issues and won't be financially able to match the offer. That's why, often, the contracts are front-loaded, to make it immediately difficult for clubs to fit under the cap.

Once again, the Ducks are a prime target. Center Corey Perry, who had 29 goals this season and just turned 23 years old, is ripe for the picking.

Any takers?


From today's article: http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...3.html?sid=101
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06-30-2008, 09:42 AM
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I think your reading to much into it, the reason the Ducks were mentioned is because they lost Penner to an offer sheet last year and Brian Burke cried for the first half of the season.
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06-30-2008, 09:46 AM
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Also, the reason they waived Bertuzzi was so they could re-sign Perry. Portzline is pipe dreaming again.
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One more vote for "reading too much into it." Pure speculation worthy of any poster at HF with no inside information or contact with the organ-eye-zation.
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06-30-2008, 10:13 AM
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Truthfully ,I think his avg. numbers considering his ice-time are damn good. I can only imagine what would happen if he would see 18-20 minutes a game like some of our other veterans. I just hope CBJ doesn't have to find out watching him or any other CBJ young players play and excel somewhere else.
Put me in the camp that says Dan Fritsche has considerably more potential than we've seen on the ice thus far. I'd like to see him come into his own here, as a Blue Jacket...honestly, whats it going to cost us? 1 mil? Worth the seed money for a guy that could be a solid, grinding, 20 goal scorer.
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06-30-2008, 10:23 AM
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No way Burke lets Perry get away. As for Puckrakers -- wishful thinking only.
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06-30-2008, 10:24 AM
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This is a typical one line comment by Portzline to stir up speculation and nothing more.
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06-30-2008, 10:26 AM
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It was in the newspaper, so I believe it.

If it was in puck-rakers, I wouldn't trust it.
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It was in the newspaper, so I believe it.

If it was in puck-rakers, I wouldn't trust it.
What's there to "believe," Kalio? It wasn't even a statement, it was an open-ended question. It obviously achieved its goal because here we are wasting our time talking about it.
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06-30-2008, 10:38 AM
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What's there to "believe," Kalio? It wasn't even a statement, it was an open-ended question. It obviously achieved its goal because here we are wasting our time talking about it.
Just having fun cap.

For what its worth, I agree with you assessment. He's just throwing it out there.
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You boys need to read the media guide...

(There's supposed to be a PICTURE here...but the HF servers seem to be confused at times about whether or not to display it. Anybody else having this problem...or do they just have ME on some sort of special restriction?



http://hfboards.com/picture.php?albu...&pictureid=241

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