> SPORTS  > HFBOARDS
HFBoards  
Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Pittsburgh Penguins
 

Luca Caputi

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
06-25-2008, 11:31 PM
  #26
Fire Therrien
A Jill Sandwich
 
Fire Therrien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,966
vCash: 500
Guy with a nose for scoring goals but issues with physical play and skating... this could be Michel Ouellet all over again.


Also, his nickname obviously has to be Filthy Luca.
Fire Therrien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-25-2008, 11:35 PM
  #27
spectraljulian
Registered User
 
spectraljulian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 2,670
vCash: 1360
Ouellet doesn't fight.


Here's a highlight reel someone made of him btw:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5m8VueG56A
spectraljulian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-25-2008, 11:40 PM
  #28
CertifiedPublicGuin
Cup Champs
 
CertifiedPublicGuin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,532
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Therrien View Post
Also, his nickname obviously has to be Filthy Luca.
Haha I love it! Glad there's another fan of that classic among us.

Now we need to get someone named Ezio in the system and it'll make for one continuous laugh all the time, at least for me.
CertifiedPublicGuin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-25-2008, 11:42 PM
  #29
spectraljulian
Registered User
 
spectraljulian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 2,670
vCash: 1360
Quote:
Originally Posted by WashJeffHockey19 View Post
Haha I love it! Glad there's another fan of that classic among us.

Now we need to get someone named Ezio in the system and it'll make for one continuous laugh all the time, at least for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKpPf...eature=related

Let's hope he gets in a fight with Ryan Malone someday.
spectraljulian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-25-2008, 11:43 PM
  #30
tocchet92
Registered User
 
tocchet92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,946
vCash: 500
Here is an excerpt from good draft review of Caputi.. It highligts the discrepancy of being described as a physical player by some and lacking in physicality by others....

“He loses balance easily due to light weight and is not an effective hitter yet. A mystery with regards to asserting himself physically, sometimes willing to fight, sometimes willing to let teammates like Osala fight for him, he needs to find a balance between playing with both edge and skill.”

More
tocchet92 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-25-2008, 11:58 PM
  #31
WVP
Moderator
Registered User
 
WVP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Country: United States
Posts: 8,888
vCash: 500
Never heard of him.
WVP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 12:42 AM
  #32
Elephant In The Room
No Mo' Reverse Homer
 
Elephant In The Room's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Beijing, China
Country: Hong Kong
Posts: 8,809
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
Sounds like Ryan Malone.
Or Michel Ouellet.
Elephant In The Room is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 08:57 AM
  #33
Fire Therrien
A Jill Sandwich
 
Fire Therrien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,966
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by tocchet22 View Post
“He loses balance easily due to light weight and is not an effective hitter yet. A mystery with regards to asserting himself physically, sometimes willing to fight, sometimes willing to let teammates like Osala fight for him, he needs to find a balance between playing with both edge and skill.”
So wait. He's slow, he shies away from physical play, his effort is inconsistent, and he falls down a lot? THAT IS MICHEL OUELLET!
Fire Therrien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 08:57 AM
  #34
Muscles4Malkin
I like hockey. :)
 
Muscles4Malkin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Turku
Country: Finland
Posts: 1,393
vCash: 500
I hope from bottom of my heart, that Caputi would be a top-4 winger some day. Hopely we see him in action soon as possible. Maybe occasionally every now and then on 3rd or 4th line. Caputi - Staal/Talbot - Kennedy would sound good to me.
Muscles4Malkin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 09:28 AM
  #35
TravisUlrich
5th Staal Brother
 
TravisUlrich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,409
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Therrien View Post
Guy with a nose for scoring goals but issues with physical play and skating... this could be Michel Ouellet all over again.


Also, his nickname obviously has to be Filthy Luca.


There's a stripper who regularly comes through Thunder Bay named "Luca Da Titz"... not that I go to those types of places... they just show the name of the headliner on the sign
TravisUlrich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 09:32 AM
  #36
ColePens
Cup Champs
 
ColePens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Pittsburgh
Country: United States
Posts: 6,828
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Reverse Homer View Post
Or Michel Ouellet.
Or... Ryan Malone ANNND Michel Ouellet! The one thing I do like about Luca is his positive attitude. Hopefully he takes off and hits a big switch for his career.
ColePens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 09:40 AM
  #37
tocchet92
Registered User
 
tocchet92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,946
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Therrien View Post
So wait. He's slow, he shies away from physical play, his effort is inconsistent, and he falls down a lot? THAT IS MICHEL OUELLET!
Through 10 seasons in the QMJHL, ECHL, AHL, and NHL Ouellet does not have one fighting major. Caputi's physicality is described as inconsistent and he is sometimes willing to drop the gloves (9 fights in 3 OHL seasons).

Here is more from the review that contained the excerpt you quoted:
"Caputi reminds me of Jordan Staal quite a bit. Their games aren’t that different. They each battle hard for loose pucks, are very adept at killing penalties, clean up the mess offensively in front of the net, and utilize their huge wingspans to drag the puck out of danger and steal it away from defenders in the boards..... a team could see themselves with a talented 6’3’‘ power forward who does the “little things."
http://www.faceoff-factor.com/junior...on-luca-caputi

That is not Michel Ouellet.

Oullet is 6'0 200 lbs who never was physical and never will be. Caputi was 6'3, 190 when he was drafted with potential to become a consistent physical player.
tocchet92 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 10:37 AM
  #38
JTG32005
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Country: Sierra Leone
Posts: 9,856
vCash: 500
And Ouellet was TERRIBLE along the boards and in the corners. Caputi is pretty good at getting to the dirty areas and getting work done.

Caputi will find a physical game. Physicality comes with confidence. I also expect a quicker Luca in mid September.
JTG32005 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 10:42 AM
  #39
Letang58
Intimidation
 
Letang58's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 10,659
vCash: 418
I think he can score 40 goals in the NHL within 3 years of coming to the big club.

Yes, he is that good.
Letang58 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 10:51 AM
  #40
Elephant In The Room
No Mo' Reverse Homer
 
Elephant In The Room's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Beijing, China
Country: Hong Kong
Posts: 8,809
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WWGRD View Post
I think he can score 40 goals in the NHL within 3 years of coming to the big club.

Yes, he is that good.
Lets not get too carried away.

Some fans really do think getting 40 goals is easy as pie. Elite scorers like Datsyuk haven't cracked the 40 goal mark yet, while celebrated snipers like Elias and Kovalev have only hit the 40 goal mark once later on in their careers.

Last edited by Elephant In The Room: 06-26-2008 at 10:58 AM.
Elephant In The Room is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 10:53 AM
  #41
spectraljulian
Registered User
 
spectraljulian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 2,670
vCash: 1360
Some work with the Pens power skating coach could possibly help him.

It sounds like he's got good speed, but his acceleration isn't there yet.
spectraljulian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 10:54 AM
  #42
ColePens
Cup Champs
 
ColePens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Pittsburgh
Country: United States
Posts: 6,828
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Reverse Homer View Post
Lets not get too carried away.

Some fans really do think getting 40 goals is easy as pie.
+1 to that... 40 goals is pretty much top of the league. Did you mean 40pts???
ColePens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 10:59 AM
  #43
Jeff Goldblum
Moderator
Boris the Blade
 
Jeff Goldblum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Country: United States
Posts: 6,852
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WWGRD View Post
I think he can score 40 goals in the NHL within 3 years of coming to the big club.

Yes, he is that good.
You would only make such a bold statement after countless hours of watching this young prospect play, correct? You would never be so careless as to make this projection based solely on stats, would you?
Jeff Goldblum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 11:01 AM
  #44
Elephant In The Room
No Mo' Reverse Homer
 
Elephant In The Room's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Beijing, China
Country: Hong Kong
Posts: 8,809
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColePens View Post
+1 to that... 40 goals is pretty much top of the league. Did you mean 40pts???
If it's 40 points then maybe. But for a late rounder starting from the bottom 2 lines and working their way up, 40 points can still be a lot to ask for from a young player.
Elephant In The Room is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 11:08 AM
  #45
Zippo
Bazooka Inventor
 
Zippo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Paper Street
Country: United States
Posts: 8,016
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boris the Blade View Post
You would only make such a bold statement after countless hours of watching this young prospect play, correct? You would never be so careless as to make this projection based solely on stats, would you?
Don't hold your breath...
Zippo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 11:29 AM
  #46
hockeydadx2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,600
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Therrien View Post
So wait. He's slow, he shies away from physical play, his effort is inconsistent, and he falls down a lot? THAT IS MICHEL OUELLET!
Oulette's effort was never in question. He tried as hard as anybody on the team, and arguably got as much from his (very) limited talent as anyone.
hockeydadx2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 12:16 PM
  #47
Fire Therrien
A Jill Sandwich
 
Fire Therrien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,966
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockeydadx2 View Post
Oulette's effort was never in question. He tried as hard as anybody on the team, and arguably got as much from his (very) limited talent as anyone.
I questioned his effort. Either that or his hockey sense isn't good enough to know when the proper time to fight with everything you got in you.


Also, are we seriously already prorating a prospect with some goal scoring touch in junior to be a 40 goal guy? Do you know what this reminds me of? Ramzi Abid. Hours after that trade we were plugging him as a future 30-40 goal guy.
Fire Therrien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 12:52 PM
  #48
Seabass
Your New Hero
 
Seabass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Country: United States
Posts: 2,306
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Therrien View Post
I questioned his effort. Either that or his hockey sense isn't good enough to know when the proper time to fight with everything you got in you.


Also, are we seriously already prorating a prospect with some goal scoring touch in junior to be a 40 goal guy? Do you know what this reminds me of? Ramzi Abid. Hours after that trade we were plugging him as a future 30-40 goal guy.
To be fair, Caputi's already a better skater than Abid ever was. I can see the comparison, but Abid was built like a tank even at the junior level. Caputi's still growing into his body. I would imagine he'll spend the whole year in WBS, and looking at who's there right now, he could have a shot at making the all-star team.

All in all, you've got to like the fact that he battles in front of the net. How many legitimate prospects have the Pens had with that combination of size and hands in front? I would agree that forty goals is pushing it, but on a team thin with scoring wingers in the system, I can see why it's easy to get excited.
Seabass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 03:19 PM
  #49
CertifiedPublicGuin
Cup Champs
 
CertifiedPublicGuin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,532
vCash: 500
Ouellet was a perimeter player, and I'll compliment him that he had a good shot, but so much separates these two players it's not even worth mentioning them together. Caputi has that desire to do whatever it takes to score goals, including (most defining from Ouellet) going to the net and scrapping much in a similar way that Malone did, admittedly. He's got an uncanny sense on where to be to find the net; very good at finding that soft spot also, which seems to be important for players of his ilk that aren't necessarily great puck rushers like Crosby who create space with their speed.

Ouellet scored from the high slot for the most part, which isn't where you'll see Caputi scoring his goals.
CertifiedPublicGuin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-26-2008, 09:43 PM
  #50
Elephant In The Room
No Mo' Reverse Homer
 
Elephant In The Room's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Beijing, China
Country: Hong Kong
Posts: 8,809
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Therrien View Post
I questioned his effort. Either that or his hockey sense isn't good enough to know when the proper time to fight with everything you got in you.
Ouellet was a hard working player for us. I never doubted his effort and he actually got better defensively and along the boards towards the end of his Penguin tenure.

He simply isn't all that talented aside from a good shot, and it showed plenty of times. But it's wrong to question his effort.

Same thing with Joe Melichar. Melichar played hard every game; he just wasn't that good.
Elephant In The Room is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:34 PM.


vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com, A property of CraveOnline, a division of AtomicOnline LLC ©2009 CraveOnline Media, LLC. All Rights Reserved.