So it looks as though Toronto has bought out Darcy Tucker.
I'd like Jackets to try this one out. I really don't enjoy much about Tucker's style, but hey... At least he would energize the team once in a while! And he is a good scorer.
I'd like Jackets to try this one out. I really don't enjoy much about Tucker's style, but hey... At least he would energize the team once in a while! And he is a good scorer.
I'm hoping Howson uses the offer sheet route to prove the "win now" hype but I'm wondering if he will. Before we talk about the players a sheet could bring us we should first discuss if Howson will even consider using it.
It's easy to say "just put out an offer sheet" but is Howson willing to pay the price in over payment as well as the draft picks? I don't know which way he will go but I'm thinking using the offer sheet is not something he is willing to do.
I'd focus on UFA's....
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I'm hoping Howson uses the offer sheet route to prove the "win now" hype but I'm wondering if he will. Before we talk about the players a sheet could bring us we should first discuss if Howson will even consider using it.
It's easy to say "just put out an offer sheet" but is Howson willing to pay the price in over payment as well as the draft picks? I don't know which way he will go but I'm thinking using the offer sheet is not something he is willing to do.
I'd focus on UFA's....
Everything I've heard indicates next year's draft may be even stronger & deeper than this year's. Might be the wrong time to be trading away picks.
Everything I've heard indicates next year's draft may be even stronger & deeper than this year's. Might be the wrong time to be trading away picks.
which is why you only offer sheet a very young, ready, stud. you dont just offersheet a good player this year. unless you are getting a big time player who can be with your team for a long time, it doesnt make sense.
The 1st rounder would be tough to part with, but unless we expect to be picking in the top five, I say who cares. I think this team will be picking somewhere between 10 and 20 (). We're stacked with prospects, I'm willing to roll the dice on losing 1st rounder next year on a player who'll help us in the next several years.
It sucks to lose, say a 2nd and 3rd as well, but you have a year to try to recoup those picks via trade if you need to. Heck two 4ths will get you a 3rd during the draft a lot of times, so you can get some of that depth back.
We don't know what the future holds. The organization has been fairly conservative thus far in that it has rarely traded high picks or prospects.
Parting with a first round-caliber talent isn't going to cripple this organization ... continued mediocrity on the ice, however, will.
which is why you only offer sheet a very young, ready, stud. you dont just offersheet a good player this year. unless you are getting a big time player who can be with your team for a long time, it doesnt make sense.
Also, we'd hamstring ourselves for trade deadline moves. We couldn't pull off trades at the draft with our assets other than the #19 so the chances of someone suddenly being interested in Brule, Fritsche and OKT at the deadline are slim at best. If we really do need to add a player at the deadline, we'll need at least our 2nd and probably our 1st.
The 1st rounder would be tough to part with, but unless we expect to be picking in the top five, I say who cares. I think this team will be picking somewhere between 10 and 20 (). We're stacked with prospects, I'm willing to roll the dice on losing 1st rounder next year on a player who'll help us in the next several years.
It sucks to lose, say a 2nd and 3rd as well, but you have a year to try to recoup those picks via trade if you need to. Heck two 4ths will get you a 3rd during the draft a lot of times, so you can get some of that depth back.
Agreed.
And we'll get the Avs 4th rounder when Foote signs with them.
And we'll get the Avs 4th rounder when Foote signs with them.
Assuming WE don't resign him!
Just for the record, if we did resign him, I will still be wearing my new Jersey with his number and the name "Foote = DBAG" to every game. Especially opening day.
If we go the offer sheet route, I think we'll have trouble recovering our picks for the same reason we've had trouble nailing down trades all along -- what assets can we trade to get high picks in a hot draft? Since the cost will be high and hard to recover, the player coming back has to be a nearly bulletproof, guaranteed high-impact player.
I also think Howson's going to have a need for significant trades in future seasons. Would offer sheeting make it even more difficult for us to find partners? Hard to predict what the fallout would be based on the lack of data available.
To offer sheet or not may be one of the toughest calls Howson has to make all summer.
If we go the offer sheet route, I think we'll have trouble recovering our picks for the same reason we've had trouble nailing down trades all along -- what assets can we trade to get high picks in a hot draft? Since the cost will be high and hard to recover, the player coming back has to be a nearly bulletproof, guaranteed high-impact player.
I also think Howson's going to have a need for significant trades in future seasons. Would offer sheeting make it even more difficult for us to find partners? Hard to predict what the fallout would be based on the lack of data available.
To offer sheet or not may be one of the toughest calls Howson has to make all summer.
Its a tough decision, for sure.
I keep coming back to this though - if you get the player to sign, you're potentially forcing the other team to take the compensation. If you offered the picks via trade, they may turn it down, but if you lock a player into an offer sheet, then the other team has to match or take the picks.
We would lose future assets, but truth be told, our current assets apparently don't have much value either. And the reality is we need help now.
You don't offer sheet just anybody, but I definitely think it is something that should be explored.
May be last resort.
Whether you want Perry or Vermette or Bouchard or Green ... RFA may be the only route we can take to get that player.
Another thing to look forward to -- other teams overpaying for UFAs, which might push useful players off their rosters and maybe into our open arms.
The counter to this is that it might make a team more inclined to take the picks instead of matching an offer sheet.
Excellent point that I didn't think of, the discussion of a bonified rational to use the offer sheet is what I wanted. As I said, to use or to not use the offer sheet rule is entirely up to Howson and his willingness to be bold.
I want him to use this avenue to improve our team but there is a "personality" factor of general managers that influence their willingness to use the sheet. By nature, I don't think Howson will do it even though I agree with the posters who say the loss of future picks will not impact the "win now" slogan.
Thinking of our influencial Dispatch reporters, it would be in their and our best interest to open up this line of discussion in the daily paper. Mr. Howson may need a little fan based push to seriously consider using the offer sheet.
To be honest, a few of the players we really need are restricted, Howson needs to know we know this... If any Dispatch sport reporters are reading this, lets get going with publishing what we need to do NOW (offer sheets) and forget about the things we haven't done.
). We're stacked with prospects, I'm willing to roll the dice on losing 1st rounder next year on a player who'll help us in the next several years.
