> SPORTS  > HFBOARDS
HFBoards  
Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Central Division > Columbus Blue Jackets
 

R.J. Umberger + Philadelphia's 4th Rounder for the 19th Overall + 3rd Round Pick

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
06-20-2008, 03:16 PM
  #76
CBJ Bob
Nik/Derrick/Jake
 
CBJ Bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Lewis Center, OH
Country: United States
Posts: 449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyMac View Post
I was going to mention Russell as a possibility as I know he was touted, but not seeing his play this year I wasn't sure if I would be laughed at or have everyone go "hell yeah - do it".
Trading Kris would be the equivillent of breaking up with a really sweet girl. I'd hate to do it but if it improves us...Our biggest IMMEDIATE need is a scoring center. The Flyers need Cap room and EVERYONE wants a puck moving defenseman. Kris Russell is close but not quite there.
CBJ Bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 03:28 PM
  #77
CapnCornelius
Leavin' on a Jet...
 
CapnCornelius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,771
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by futurcorerock View Post
You stay classy. It's easy to lob bricks when you're sitting at a computer on an internet forum
You'd know, right?
CapnCornelius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 03:32 PM
  #78
Brassard Calder
Work Over Skill
 
Brassard Calder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Country: United States
Posts: 3,088
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBJ Bob View Post
Good one... You had me going; I almost thought you were serious. That was the best joke on this board since a guy from Montral offered us Theodore for Nash. Thanks for the laughs.
I agree the 6th for Umberger is a terrible proposal. But I think you guys are forgetting this...

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=525393

Brassard Calder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 03:36 PM
  #79
futurcorerock
pedro the lion
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Columbus, OH
Country: United States
Posts: 6,422
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CapnCornelius View Post
You'd know, right?
Dealing with you, yes.

I guess everyone's an internet tough guy in some respects
futurcorerock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 03:38 PM
  #80
futurcorerock
pedro the lion
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Columbus, OH
Country: United States
Posts: 6,422
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by blahblah View Post
The second is enough. Your talking about a borderline top 6 player and a team running up against the cap. I doubt they are interested in an overpriced 4th line center.
The Philly forums were lukewarm on it -- Some embraced, some dismissed so I figured there was some interest in terms of organizational need. Since I don't know enough about their needs i'm basically out of the loop in terms of matching their need with our assets.

Oh, and thanks for the warm welcomes old schoolers.
futurcorerock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 03:42 PM
  #81
DougKnowsBest
Official
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Newark, Ohio
Country: United States
Posts: 6,162
vCash: 500
C'mon 7 Oclock
DougKnowsBest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 03:51 PM
  #82
CBJ Bob
Nik/Derrick/Jake
 
CBJ Bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Lewis Center, OH
Country: United States
Posts: 449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by futurcorerock View Post
The Philly forums were lukewarm on it -- Some embraced, some dismissed so I figured there was some interest in terms of organizational need. Since I don't know enough about their needs i'm basically out of the loop in terms of matching their need with our assets.

Oh, and thanks for the warm welcomes old schoolers.
No hard feelings FCR. Philly just agreed to terms with Jeff Carter for 3 years $15 mill. There most pressing need is Cap room. Everyone wants a puck moving defenseman. I don't think we have what they want there. There seems to be consenus here and Philly's board and the main board for our 2nd PLUS a roster player (Malholtra) for RJ.

Anyway have fun watching tonight.
Bob
CBJ Bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 03:54 PM
  #83
CapnCornelius
Leavin' on a Jet...
 
CapnCornelius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,771
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by futurcorerock View Post
Dealing with you, yes.

I guess everyone's an internet tough guy in some respects
Which is why it was hillarious reading people complain about bloggers on here the other day. I mean, message board posters knocking bloggers is a bit like La Casa Nostra saying they don't like the way the Yakuza does business.
CapnCornelius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 03:57 PM
  #84
Inquiring Minds
Registered User
 
Inquiring Minds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Grandview, Ohio
Posts: 825
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by futurcorerock View Post
The Philly forums were lukewarm on it -- Some embraced, some dismissed so I figured there was some interest in terms of organizational need. Since I don't know enough about their needs i'm basically out of the loop in terms of matching their need with our assets.
Some were quite receptive when they referenced Manny's face-off %. Also spoke about him being good on defense and able to "chip in" occasionally on offense.

But the overall consensus was that he doesn't fill any of their perceived needs. (Aside from giving them significant breathing room under the salary cap...conveniently forgot about that)
Inquiring Minds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 03:59 PM
  #85
futurcorerock
pedro the lion
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Columbus, OH
Country: United States
Posts: 6,422
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CapnCornelius View Post
Which is why it was hillarious reading people complain about bloggers on here the other day. I mean, message board posters knocking bloggers is a bit like La Casa Nostra saying they don't like the way the Yakuza does business.
bloggers thrive on message board posters. We're the source of inspiration

Deadspin is the best example for this
futurcorerock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 04:06 PM
  #86
leesmith
Livin the High Life!
 
leesmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 5,458
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CapnCornelius View Post
You'd know, right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by futurcorerock View Post
Dealing with you, yes.

I guess everyone's an internet tough guy in some respects
I know you are, but what am I? Neener Neener NeeeeeNER!

Last edited by leesmith: 06-20-2008 at 04:29 PM.
leesmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 04:11 PM
  #87
Double-Shift Lassé
Moderator
something in betwixt
 
Double-Shift Lassé's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Country: United States
Posts: 7,925
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by futurcorerock View Post
Dealing with you, yes.

I guess everyone's an internet tough guy in some respects
Oh, yeah?!
__________________
"Every game, every point is a necessity." -- Ty Conklin, January 2007
Double-Shift Lassé is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 04:14 PM
  #88
EasyMac
Registered User
 
EasyMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: T-dot
Country: Canada
Posts: 536
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inquiring Minds View Post
Some were quite receptive when they referenced Manny's face-off %. Also spoke about him being good on defense and able to "chip in" occasionally on offense.

But the overall consensus was that he doesn't fill any of their perceived needs. (Aside from giving them significant breathing room under the salary cap...conveniently forgot about that)
Well, the Flyers needs are:
1) Puck-moving two way defenseman
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
2) 3rd line center IF Briere is moved to the wing.


So for the most part it seems us fans fall into 2 categories, those who think RJ+ will get us a good cheap 2nd pairing dman, and the other half who would love that but don't expect it too happen given the premium on mobile puck carrying defencemen.
EasyMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 04:18 PM
  #89
DougKnowsBest
Official
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Newark, Ohio
Country: United States
Posts: 6,162
vCash: 500
im with the other half. show me 1 team in the league who wouldnt love another quality cheap second pairing dman
DougKnowsBest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 04:24 PM
  #90
EasyMac
Registered User
 
EasyMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: T-dot
Country: Canada
Posts: 536
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DougKnowsBest View Post
im with the other half. show me 1 team in the league who wouldnt love another quality cheap second pairing dman
As am I. Unless it was for a young dman with potential for the 2nd line but not there yet, I know RJ won't bring in someone who can step right away onto the 2nd line for a decent salary. However I would be thrilled if Holmgren could work some more magic and pull it off.
EasyMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 04:28 PM
  #91
CBJ Bob
Nik/Derrick/Jake
 
CBJ Bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Lewis Center, OH
Country: United States
Posts: 449
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyMac View Post
Well, the Flyers needs are:
1) Puck-moving two way defenseman
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
2) 3rd line center IF Briere is moved to the wing.


So for the most part it seems us fans fall into 2 categories, those who think RJ+ will get us a good cheap 2nd pairing dman, and the other half who would love that but don't expect it too happen given the premium on mobile puck carrying defencemen.
The price tag on 2 way D-men is absurd currently. We're letting Ron Hainsey walk because he wants $4M. I mentioned Russell earlier but I doubt he fills your immediate needs there. If the 2way D man is such a high priority why did you trade Pitkenan and Let Kim Johansen walk. I would put the #1 need is Cap sapce. Our 2nd and Malholtra should be mutually agreeable.
CBJ Bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 04:40 PM
  #92
EasyMac
Registered User
 
EasyMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: T-dot
Country: Canada
Posts: 536
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBJ Bob View Post
The price tag on 2 way D-men is absurd currently. We're letting Ron Hainsey walk because he wants $4M. I mentioned Russell earlier but I doubt he fills your immediate needs there. If the 2way D man is such a high priority why did you trade Pitkenan and Let Kim Johansen walk. I would put the #1 need is Cap sapce. Our 2nd and Malholtra should be mutually agreeable.
Pitkanen was a bit of a head case, didn't get along with anyone (if even Sami Kapanen can't get through to you, you know you have problems), was hard to coach. Basically he is the type of player will all the tools but no toolbox.

Johnsson got offered a huge salary from the Wild (which was hard to match after signing Hatcher and Rathje) plus was coming off a severe concussion, so they let him walk.

I agree that the Malhotra/2nd deal fits perfectly, but only if Briere is moved to the wing. Otherwise Malhotra would be an overpriced 4th liner.
EasyMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 05:12 PM
  #93
DougKnowsBest
Official
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Newark, Ohio
Country: United States
Posts: 6,162
vCash: 500
just have a line with 2 centers. jeesh. its like a double cheeseburger
DougKnowsBest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 06:10 PM
  #94
JF Omalycat
Needs Soma
 
JF Omalycat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Country: United States
Posts: 2,527
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Shelf View Post


...oh reminds me of the good ole days of like 5 of us on here during the lockout..!
Bleak times, but we made the best of them.....
JF Omalycat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 06:32 PM
  #95
CapnCornelius
Leavin' on a Jet...
 
CapnCornelius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,771
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by futurcorerock View Post
bloggers thrive on message board posters. We're the source of inspiration

Deadspin is the best example for this
And how many threads on here are based on blog posts?

Even the traditional media is being pushed to report based on things that go viral on the Internet.
CapnCornelius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 07:14 PM
  #96
Oz
PC + PS3 = win
 
Oz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: having a setback
Country: Qatar
Posts: 8,177
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JF Omalycat View Post
Bleak times, but we made the best of them.....
Post more, please.
Oz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 07:21 PM
  #97
KeithBWhittington
JP Mac's Team!
 
KeithBWhittington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Detroit Blue Devils
Country: Hungary
Posts: 5,668
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JF Omalycat View Post
Bleak times, but we made the best of them.....
Where the Hell you been?????
KeithBWhittington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 07:26 PM
  #98
CBJSlash
Carry the Flag
 
CBJSlash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: The Bus
Posts: 7,667
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JF Omalycat View Post
Bleak times, but we made the best of them.....


Aren't you the artist formerly known as fan-o-45? Or something like that?

Blast from the past for sure.
CBJSlash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 07:29 PM
  #99
WrightOn
the money.
 
WrightOn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Incognito
Country: Isle of Man
Posts: 4,356
vCash: 500
Impressive two year hiatus there, Omalycat. It's been a long time.

Are you here to fufill the prophecy?
WrightOn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-20-2008, 07:31 PM
  #100
Oz
PC + PS3 = win
 
Oz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: having a setback
Country: Qatar
Posts: 8,177
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WrightOn View Post
Impressive two year hiatus there, Omalycat. It's been a long time.

Are you here to fufill the prophecy?
"A Shelley fan from deep in the past will arrive in 2008 Day Of Draft, the stars have aligned and all will be well in Jacket Land"
Oz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:24 PM.


vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com, A property of CraveOnline, a division of AtomicOnline LLC ©2009 CraveOnline Media, LLC. All Rights Reserved.