George W. Bush and Tony Blair Nominated for Nobel Price Award
 

maybe it was discussed already ...


OSLO, May 8 (Reuters) - A Norwegian parliamentarian nominated U.S. President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair for the Nobel Peace Prize on Thursday, praising them for winning the war in Iraq.

"Sometimes it's necessary to use a small and effective war to prevent a much more dangerous war in the future," Jan Simonsen, a right-wing independent in Norway's parliament, told Reuters.

"If nobody acted then Saddam Hussein could have produced weapons of mass destruction and, in five or 10 years, could have used them against Israel," he said.

An award to Bush and Blair would be a U-turn after the Nobel Committee awarded the 2002 prize to former U.S. President Jimmy Carter last October. At the time, the committee chairman called it a kick in the shins to Bush's Iraq policies as Carter had been calling for a diplomatic solution.

Simonsen said the war had "made it possible to create democracy and respect for human rights in a country which for so many years has been ruled by one of the worst dictators in modern times".

However, Geir Lundestad, the director of the Nobel Institute where the five-member committee meets, said Simonsen's proposal would have to wait for the 2004 award because the deadline for nominations for 2003 passed on February 1.

The secretive five-member committee names the annual winner in mid-October. More than 160 people and organisations have been nominated for the 2003 prize, including Pope John Paul, Irish rock star Bono and Cuban dissident Oswaldo Paya.

"I'm not especially optimistic that Bush and Blair will win but I think it's worth a try," Simonsen said. He said he would encourage like-minded parliamentarians in other countries to also nominate Bush and Blair.

Nobel committees have frequently honoured the United Nations instead of unilateral action by member states. The United Nations did not give an explicit mandate for the war amid opposition from countries including France, Germany and Russia.

The 2001 Nobel Peace Prize went to the United Nations and U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan.

Thousands of people around the world, including members of national parliaments, professors of history, law and politics and former laureates can make nominations for the prize. The nomination process is secret, but people sometimes publicise their choice.

What a joke

Haha..Jan Simonsen is a friggin joke. The man is crazy.

BTW 90% of the Norwegian people hate Bush.

It's 'bout damn time.

...and to think, he always had such nice things to say about you.

lol.

Hitler was Time's Man of the Year, wasn't he? So anything is possible.....

If Arafat won one, anyone can win one.

I think so, but being man of the year isn't necessarily a good thing.

If I was a teacher, this would be a good example of a paradox.

Why? What better way to bring peace than to kill everyone who disagrees with you?

Open your minds a bit. Peace is not only between states, it's also an internal affair. What would the 300 thousand or so murdered Iraqis have to say about the benefits of Westerners' narrow view of 'peace' ?

Amen. I'm sick and tired of peaceniks crying that peace can be accomplished through talk and reasoning. Yeah right. There are bad people in this world who aren't just mad at us but just crazy as was Hitler and ask Neville Chamberlin where talking got England. A bombed out Londen is what it got him. And if you think I'm going to an extreme with comparing Hitler with your beloved terriost and madman dictors that you all think you can sweet talk into peace, let me ask you this if given the chance to drop nukes on western cities you think Bin Laden and his henchman would pass the oppurtunity to do so??? I hate war and I hate violence but if these people are devoted to take us out I don't want to go down without a fight, and if the only way to get peace is to take them out then God bless Bush and bombs away.

Yeah, real effective war eh? More and more Americans die each day over there and no end is in sight.

That would assume a few things, first that they had nukes, secondly that even if they did they wouldn't have used them by now.

BTW N Korea is much more of a threat and actually has nuclear capabilities, yet we seem to be pretty lax when it comes to 'freeing the N. Koreans from the tyranny of a dictator."

No we have no idea if they have nukes and if they did I'd hate to find out the hard way with NYC getting blown up. But would you really be surprised if they did, with the russian nucelar aresonal not always accounted for? I agree N. Korea is a bad scene but that is one country that needs to be aproached with caution, that is a real nasty bunch there and I'm sure the U.S. is always considering ways and ideas on how to elimate that dictator without military force which if used would inflict casualties in the high thousands for the us americans similiar to the first Korean war.

Yep, North Korea isn't concerned with winning a war. They're using their military to keep South Korea and Japan as hostages. The US can't start a war with them because as you said Seoul would be leveled as would many of our troops stationed over there. North Korea also has missiles that can reach Japan and is very willing to use them.

Taking out Iraq wasn't a big deal because they didn't have the capability to really hurt anyone.

Let's wait 10 or so years on this one and see what the long-term fallout is both in Iraq and in the war on terrorism. Personally, I would support George Bush for the NPP way before George W. at this point.

I'll just cut and paste a few more lines from the article:

Lundestad [director of the Norwegian Nobel Institute] said many people wrongly believed being a "Nobel prize nominee" was itself a kind of honor.

Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler and former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic (news - web sites) have made it to the list -- every member of all the world's parliaments, university professors from law to theology, ex-winners and committee members can submit names.

"There are many who do not understand the difference between a nomination and getting the prize," Lundestad said.

He also said he could not cope with a deluge of e-mails and said he preferred receiving letters or faxes.

"There are periods when I receive more than 1,500 e-mails per day, either supporting or denouncing someone," he said, adding he simply deleted most all of them. "Please don't put my e-mail address in a story. It's well enough known as it is."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...nobel_peace_dc

If we could ditch that rule that prohibits the CIA from assassinating people, the war in Iraq, and the probable war in Korea can be averted

So was Stalin, heh.

Roosevelt was Time man of the century. Hitler, Stalin, Ghandi were the 3 nominees.

our country's credibility will drop to zero if we push for such a proposition...i remember this was first proposed during the castro takeover of cuba...we are the world's most powerful nation and even though you might not see it, we need the help and cooperation from other countries in this world...

I'm not proposing giving the CIA free range to knock off anyone they wish too, there would have to be checks and balances like in every system of our government

Isreal pulls off assassinations all the time and they're plenty popular outside of the middle east and as for our country's credibility I'm not really concerned with it, we cant base our pollicies on what other countries think is right, they dont like us imposing our will on them, it's a 2 way street

Hold the phone, folks. By Simonsen's rationale, I think yours truly should be nominated for the award. Seriously.

If you folks knew what I had planned but stopped myself from carrying out, you'd give it to me, too. Oh baby, faster than a seventeen-year-old in the back seat you'd give it to me.

Rhino,
I respectfully request that you might think about heading down to your local recruiting office if you choose to use this type of strong rhetoric. As a man whose life was formerly volunteered by those who similarly opined, I ask that you please ease up a bit. Support the war and policy all you want - that's what our forum is for, right? - but please don't volunteer so freely other people, even if they themselves have made decisions which have subsequently brought them to where they are. Nowhere on the entrance form exists a disclaimer which informs anybody they could be sent to far off lands to die for the greater good, and the recruiter certainly doesn't say "hey, you might be lucky enough to come home in a pine box for the greater good." Hitler spreading across Europe this is not.

Thanks, man.