Pronger Out of the World Cup - TSN

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Pronger pulls out of World Cup


TSN.ca Staff



8/15/2004

Chris Pronger has withdrawn from the World Cup of Hockey TSN has learned.

Sources told TSN that the big defenceman tweaked his previously injured right knee while training. Although the injury is not considered major, it is enough to force him to withdraw from the World Cup of hockey, which starts Aug. 31st for Team Canada.

Pronger apparently informed Hockey Canada of his decision to withdraw today.

A replacement will be named from a group that is likely to include Jay Bouwmeester, Brian McCabe and Brad Stuart, amongst others.

craptastic...

For **** sakes

For me as a Blues fan this is good news, if the knee is only tweaked and he will be reeady for the start of the season.

uh oh

well that's just dandy! :banghead:

:banghead:

Replacement? Aucoin? McCabe perhaps?

Bowmeester please.

There's no way Bouwmeester should be on the team when there are other defensemen with more experience (including playoff experience) and better results over the last few years. This isn't USA basketball where players are chosen to sell jerseys and hype the NBA.

My jaw literally dropped when I saw this. This can't be ****ing true.

Ouch. That's Canada's top 2 defensemen gone. :eek:

We've gone from

Pronger
Blake
Niedermayer
Foote
Jovanovski
Redden
----------
Brewer
Regehr

to

Niedermayer
Foote
Jovanovski
Redden
Brewer
Regehr
----------
Hannan
McCabe/Aucoin/Bouwmeester/whoever

Can't say I like that one bit. :(

I think Aucoin should be the replacement - because we'll need a big minutes man.

Ouch. That's Canada's top 2 defensemen gone. :eek:

We've gone from

Pronger
Blake
Niedermayer
Foote
Jovanovski
Redden
----------
Brewer
Regehr

to

Niedermayer
Foote
Jovanovski
Redden
Brewer
Regehr
----------
Hannan
McCabe/Aucoin/Bouwmeester/whoever

Can't say I like that one bit. :(

It could be worse, Hal Gill could be on the Canadian team.

There's no way Bouwmeester should be on the team when there are other defensemen with more experience (including playoff experience) and better results over the last few years. This isn't USA basketball where players are chosen to sell jerseys and hype the NBA.

Since it's on north american ice I agree, however if it was on international sized rinks Bouwmeester would have been quite possibly the best pick IMO.

I always thought Bouwmeester would be the next in line, if another defenceman were to withdraw. But losing Pronger is a really big blow, so I think Aucoin should be seriously considered. He really doesn't get the respect he deserves.

I think Aucoin should be the replacement - because we'll need a big minutes man.
They might also want to add the right handed shot too..

Bowmeester' IN !

Phew....

Canada's defense has definitely fallen behind Sweden's as the best in the tournament with this change.

Canada's defense has definitely fallen behind Sweden's as the best in the tournament with this change.


STUART!!!!!!!!!!! :bow:

TSN now reporting that J-Bo has officially been named his replacement...

TSN now reporting that J-Bo has officially been named his replacement...

What a horrible choice. :shakehead

What a fantastic choice! :jump:

Bouwmeester is good, but Hannan is a joke in my eyes! Aucoin, McCabe and Stuart are much better defender!

You know what, I'm STILL confident in Canada's defence. Pronger is a blow no doubt, but if we lose because of a couple of players withdrawing, what kind of team would we be?

Too many of the replacement choices seem to be based on hype, either from the most recent playoffs, or from being considered a future star. There should have been more emphasis placed on experience and consistent performances over a longer stretch of time.

Canada's defense has definitely fallen behind Sweden's as the best in the tournament with this change.

niedermayer
foote
jovonovski
redden
*edit* brewer (somehow forgot him)
regehr
hannan
bouwmeester

lidstrom
ohlund
tarnstrom
backman
tjarnqvist
johnnson
norstrom

Canada is still better in my books, especially on the smaller ice, but it's definitly a lot closer now without blake and pronger

niedermayer
foote
jovonovski
redden
regehr
hannan
bouwmeester


lidstrom
ohlund
tarnstrom
backman
tjarnqvist
johnnson
norstrom

Canada is still better in my books, especially on the smaller ice, but it's definitly a lot closer now without blake and pronger
Where's Brewer on your list of Canadian D-Men?

Where's Brewer on your list of Canadian D-Men?
My guess is on the bench where he belongs. ;)

Too many of the replacement choices seem to be based on hype, either from the most recent playoffs, or from being considered a future star. There should have been more emphasis placed on experience and consistent performances over a longer stretch of time.

i agree completely. i would take a proven performer like aucoin or mccabe over a player who could just be a flash in the pan (regehr, hannan) or a guy with great future, but not at the same level as the others yet (bouwmeester)

Oh...my....god...

Please tell me we still have a chance at least.

Oh...my....god...

Please tell me we still have a chance at least.
We still have a chance. ;)

My guess is on the bench where he belongs. ;)

Zing! :lol:

I'm honostly getting scared. Canada cannot afford to loose another international title. It will be a major blow if we do.

I'm honostly getting scared. Canada cannot afford to loose another international title. It will be a major blow if we do.

It probably wouldn't be that big of a blow...we won the past two World Championships. Not sure why we can't 'afford' to lose??

It probably wouldn't be that big of a blow...we won the past two World Championships. Not sure why we can't 'afford' to lose??

World Championships don't really mean much given that it's a B-level tournament, like the Olympics are for soccer. But I agree with your point; there have been three "NHL dream team" tournaments, and we've seen three different winners from the "Big Six". If one of Sweden, Finland, or Russia won it wouldn't really hurt Canada, the Czech Republic, or the USA that much.

It probably wouldn't be that big of a blow...we won the past two World Championships. Not sure why we can't 'afford' to lose??

You know the media these days, once Canada fails to win an international championship, newspapers all over, both in Canada and around the world will have article after article talking about how its no longer Canada's game because of recent tournament losses and such.

I'm not trying to start another thread about it being "Our game" or not. But look at how loud the media was after Nagano.

My guess is on the bench where he belongs. ;)
Why is it that the Oilers players are the ones constantly getting criticized. When the team was announced, who was it criticized that shouldn't be on there. Yup, the two players from the Oilers. Why can't Regehr or Hannan be on the bench. Why does it have to be Brewer? Same with Smyth. Someone in a paper mentioned that Smyth could quite possible be in the PB. Funny that only the Oilers players get mentioned for the PB but none of the other players. :banghead:

after 1998 i personally was worried about the direction of hockey here. but honestly, canada could lose in the quarters here and although dissapointed, i wouldn't be panicking. it's not like we're facing inferior competition here, 5 or 6 countries have a legit shot at winning this

the aura of failure that was around after the 1996 and 1998 losses won't be here this time around if canada doesn't win

*edit*

a little off topic, but it's kinda lame to call hockey "our game". its not really fair to all the othe hockey countries in the world. i'm a proud Canadian, and i would argue that our team is the best, but it's kind of ignorant to say we own the sport

In a way, this is kind of cool because I'm a Sens fan and it essentially secures Redden a spot in the top 6, maybe even top 4, but in reality, that's bad news.

I don't mind the selection of J Bo, but I would MUCH rather have seen Aucoin get the green light.

Bouwmeester is good, but Hannan is a joke in my eyes! Aucoin, McCabe and Stuart are much better defender!


You obviosly have not watched many Sharks games. Stuart has had two lousy seasons (injury, post concussion) and Hannan has been one of the best shut down defensman in the league. With a moniker that includes "Tkachuk" I would have assumed you knew that Hannan was a great shut down d-man, since he very effectively shut down Tkachuk last season.

Why is it that the Oilers players are the ones constantly getting criticized. When the team was announced, who was it criticized that shouldn't be on there. Yup, the two players from the Oilers. Why can't Regehr or Hannan be on the bench. Why does it have to be Hannan. Same with Smyth. Someone in a paper mentioned that Smyth could quite possible be in the PB. Funny that only the Oilers players get mentioned for the PB but none of the other players. :banghead:
Huh?

Err right... everyone is out to get Edmonton.

(Does anyone really even care about them?)

Why is it that the Oilers players are the ones constantly getting criticized. When the team was announced, who was it criticized that shouldn't be on there. Yup, the two players from the Oilers. Why can't Regehr or Hannan be on the bench. Why does it have to be Hannan. Same with Smyth. Someone in a paper mentioned that Smyth could quite possible be in the PB. Funny that only the Oilers players get mentioned for the PB but none of the other players. :banghead:

Because the Toronto fans are all so sure that they "own" hockey. For the most part they cannot see past their very narrow minded view of hockey and realize that there are 29 other teams with talented players in the league. If they do not know alot about a player; then that player is sup par to a player on their team.

Because the Toronto fans are all so sure that they "own" hockey. For the most part they cannot see past their very narrow minded view of hockey and realize that there are 29 other teams with talented players in the league. If they do not know alot about a player; then that player is sup par to a player on their team.

woah, ignorant stereotype alert!

it's not just toronto fans who think mccabe, aucoin, philips, and others are better than hannan

in fact, i think i made a post a few minutes ago about the whole "owning hockey topic" in this thread

sure, there's leaf fans that think hockey revolves around toronto, but you're no better than them with a comment like that

You know what, I'm STILL confident in Canada's defence. Pronger is a blow no doubt, but if we lose because of a couple of players withdrawing, what kind of team would we be?
Its not as simple as a couple players though.These are our best 2 players at what i consider the key position.

woah, ignorant stereotype alert!

it's not just toronto fans who think mccabe, aucoin, philips, and others are better than hannan

in fact, i think i made a post a few minutes ago about the whole "owning hockey topic" in this thread

sure, there's leaf fans that think hockey revolves around toronto, but you're no better than them with a comment like that

Go through threads like this and count how many statements "of fact" are made by leafs or location Toronto fans. The numbers are all the proof needed to back up my statement. To be politically correct I will replace Toronto fans with "Hockey Snob"

In all honesty, how many west coast games do you watch a year? If our geographic positions were reveresed my answer would be very, very, few. West coast games start at 10:30 est which is simply to late for most viewers. It would be one thing if posts said something like....I do not know alot about west coast player or young player so and so......instead they say....player so and so is a joke or player so and so is no were near the level of the player that I support (stated as fact). It just gets really really old. I apologize if my comment was offensive.

I think Aucoin should be the replacement - because we'll need a big minutes man.


I think Aucoin is the best choice for team Canada, but is playing the best choice for Aucoin? Remember, everyone has to go business as usual, and Aucoin knows he'd be coming back and playing 27 minutes a game for the Islanders...

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=94990

Bouwmeester in!

You obviosly have not watched many Sharks games. Stuart has had two lousy seasons (injury, post concussion) and Hannan has been one of the best shut down defensman in the league. With a moniker that includes "Tkachuk" I would have assumed you knew that Hannan was a great shut down d-man, since he very effectively shut down Tkachuk last season.

Had you actually watched the games you claim he hasn't, you'd know that it was Rathje that shut down Tkachuk, not Hannan.

I think Aucoin should be the replacement - because we'll need a big minutes man.


Why do they need to bring in one?
Why do you think Aucoin would be that man?

Niedermayer -Foote & Jovanovski -Redden

These two pairing can easily eat 25mins per game.

Brewer-Regehr

These two are good for at least 20 each but likely won't see more than 15 if they are stuck on a 3rd pairing.

Hannan is also capable of 20+ per night.

Who ever they bring in will be a bench player unless there are a ton more injuries.

Canada's defence as it stands now:

*Niedermayer: Has played better than any defenceman on the planet since the 2003 all-star break. Was New Jersey's MVP in 2003 Cup run. Won Norris winner in 2004. Stellar for Canada at 1996 World Cup, 2002 Olympics and 2004 Worlds. First unit.
*Foote: Two-time Stanley Cup champion. Consensus as one of the best defensive defencemen of his generation. Stellar for Canada every time he plays. Was wrongly left off the 2002 Olympic all-star team. First unit.
*Jovanovski. When on his game, there isn't a defenceman like him in the NHL. Big, strong, can rush the puck, shoot the puck, make great plays and hit like a ton of bricks. Showed in 2002 Olys that he can settle down, too. Second unit.
*Redden. Smart, steady, cool. Shows great poise on the blueline. Great leader. When playing to potential, makes the smart first play. Strong positionally. 17 goals shows offensive talent is there, too. Second unit.
*Brewer. Struggled at times since the Olympics, but his track record in big games is undeniable. Was strong in the 2001 playoffs, the 2002 Olympics, the 2003 Worlds and the 2004 Worlds. Brilliant two-way effort for Edmonton down the stretch this year. Third unit.
*Regher. A rock defensively. Played the best hockey of his life in the playoffs. Logged massive minutes without wearing down. Faced the opposition's best players night after night and pressure didn't get to him.
*Hannan. Most underrated defenceman in the league. A rock in his own end, nearly impossible to get around. Makes good first pass in own zone. Solid No. 7.
*Bouwmeester. Coming off sophomore jinx, but anyone who watched the 2003 Worlds knows that this guy can excel playing against the best in the world. Solid No. 8.
Remind me again. What are we worried about? Sure we lost Blake and Pronger, two great defencemen. But we still have Aucoin and McCabe waiting in the wings if one of these guys goes down. We'll be fine. Nobody can match our depth. We have three strong offensive defencemen, three strong defensive defencemen, and a couple young aces who step their play up every time they don the Maple Leaf.

Go Canada Go.

One last thing to remember: With the exception of 1996, 1999 and 2000, Canada has produced at least one elite-level defenceman every year, starting with Aucoin in 1992. (Pronger and McCabe in 1993, Jovanovski in 1994, Redden in 95, Brewer and Hannan in 1997, Stuart and Regher in 1998). Hamhuis in 2001, Bouwmeester in 2002, Phaneuf and Coburn in 2003 and Barker in 2004 seem destined to join that group. Defence is not a problem. After goaltending and playmaking centres, it's been our strong suit the past dozen years.

When we lost to the Yanks in 1996, Blake was coming off a torn ACL, Bourque said no and MacInnis got hurt. We were carrying Sylvain Cote, Doug Bodger and Lyle Odelein, for crying out loud. Our defenceman production stream had hit a lul. Even with our best nine guys, we would have lagged behind the Americans on the blue line. Now, the roles have reversed. We're the ones with top young talent on the blue line, and they're the ones who have to bring in suspect players (Hal Gill).

Well, on the Brewer topic - we're seeing some extremes on both sides. To imply the whole world is out to get Oilers and that Oilers never get respect is bogus. However, to see people completely leave Brewer off lists, and then to imply he's a bad pick and of no use to Canada is even more idiotic.

Brewer and Jovo will now both step into Blake and Prongers place as the big, tough, and skilled Dmen. Scott N. isn't tough enough, same with Redden and Foote doesn't have the natural talent. I am expecting to see Dmen gets 20 minute (Jovo, Redden, Brewer), 2 get 25 (Foote, Neids - Foote because he'll play more PK and Neids for PP minutes), while the sixth guy only sees about 10 minutes (Regehr/Jbo/Hannan).

How is that possible? Well, one of Foote or Neidermayer plays with the sixth guy, but they play ALOT of special teams.

One last thing to remember: With the exception of 1996, 1999 and 2000, Canada has produced at least one elite-level defenceman every year, starting with Aucoin in 1992. (Pronger and McCabe in 1993, Jovanovski in 1994, Redden in 95, Brewer and Hannan in 1997, Stuart and Regher in 1998). Hamhuis in 2001, Bouwmeester in 2002, Phaneuf and Coburn in 2003 and Barker in 2004 seem destined to join that group. Defence is not a problem. After goaltending and playmaking centres, it's been our strong suit the past dozen years.

When we lost to the Yanks in 1996, Blake was coming off a torn ACL, Bourque said no and MacInnis got hurt. We were carrying Sylvain Cote, Doug Bodger and Lyle Odelein, for crying out loud. Our defenceman production stream had hit a lul. Even with our best nine guys, we would have lagged behind the Americans on the blue line. Now, the roles have reversed. We're the ones with top young talent on the blue line, and they're the ones who have to bring in suspect players (Hal Gill).
What about Jackman and Boynton from 1999?
They may become elite defencemen yet.

With the other players he listed there as 'elite', then Jackman and Boyton definately do deserve to be listed... as do about 25 other defensemen.

niedermayer
foote
jovonovski
redden
*edit* brewer (somehow forgot him)
regehr
hannan
bouwmeester

lidstrom
ohlund
tarnstrom
backman
tjarnqvist
johnnson
norstrom

Canada is still better in my books, especially on the smaller ice, but it's definitly a lot closer now without blake and prongerIt is closer now, but you forgot Marcus Ragnarsson.

Well, on the Brewer topic - we're seeing some extremes on both sides. To imply the whole world is out to get Oilers and that Oilers never get respect is bogus. However, to see people completely leave Brewer off lists, and then to imply he's a bad pick and of no use to Canada is even more idiotic.

Brewer and Jovo will now both step into Blake and Prongers place as the big, tough, and skilled Dmen. Scott N. isn't tough enough, same with Redden and Foote doesn't have the natural talent. I am expecting to see Dmen gets 20 minute (Jovo, Redden, Brewer), 2 get 25 (Foote, Neids - Foote because he'll play more PK and Neids for PP minutes), while the sixth guy only sees about 10 minutes (Regehr/Jbo/Hannan).

How is that possible? Well, one of Foote or Neidermayer plays with the sixth guy, but they play ALOT of special teams.

I think you are going to be disappointed in Brewer's icetime. He is not going to be a top 4 d-man on Team Canada. That would be a travesty. Niedermayer, Foote, Jovanovski & Redden will be the top 4 (all easily better than Brewer). Regehr will be #5 and Brewer likely #6.

I see Brewer as a player that made the team based more on the Olympics than his play since (ala Gagne). The coaching staff will not be comfortable with Brewer as a top 4 IMO. Neither will the rest of the country to be honest.

Remember: Boynton was originally drafted in 1997. I'd list him there, rather than his re-entry year. Compare him with those his age. And I don't think he's going to be an elite defenceman, a very good defenceman, yes, but not elite.

As for Jackman, this is an important year for him. He's going to have to show that his rookie year wasn' a fluke, and that he can be a dominant defensive defenceman.

Remember: Boynton was originally drafted in 1997. I'd list him there, rather than his re-entry year. Compare him with those his age. And I don't think he's going to be an elite defenceman, a very good defenceman, yes, but not elite.

As for Jackman, this is an important year for him. He's going to have to show that his rookie year wasn' a fluke, and that he can be a dominant defensive defenceman.
That's true about Jackman but personally I would rather have Boynton then Brewer. Maybe I'm being a bit biased but that's my opinion.

I think you are going to be disappointed in Brewer's icetime. He is not going to be a top 4 d-man on Team Canada. That would be a travesty. Niedermayer, Foote, Jovanovski & Redden will be the top 4 (all easily better than Brewer). Regehr will be #5 and Brewer likely #6.

I see Brewer as a player that made the team based more on the Olympics than his play since (ala Gagne). The coaching staff will not be comfortable with Brewer as a top 4 IMO. Neither will the rest of the country to be honest.
Regehr shouldn't be on the team. The only reason he got on there is because of how well he played in the playoffs. He wasn't even on the radar when they first started talking about naming defensemen.

Gretzky even stated that he sees Brewer as a top 4.

Regehr shouldn't be on the team. The only reason he got on there is because of how well he played in the playoffs. He wasn't even on the radar when they first started talking about naming defensemen.

Gretzky even stated that he sees Brewer as a top 4.

1) Regehr > Brewer

2) Canada is screwed with Brewer as a top 4. Niedermayer, Foote, Jovanovski, Redden & Regehr are all better than Brewer. Possibly even Hannan as well. If Brewer is anything more than a #5/6 in this tourney, K-Lo was pulling some massive strings.

I like Brewer, him being a PG Cougar and all, but I don't think he should be any higher than third pairing on this team. He's still got holes in its defensive game, and I must have watched a different tournament than everyone else this summer because I didn't think he was good at all during the WCs; he was handling the puck like a grenade and missed several defensive assignments.

I like Brewer, him being a PG Cougar and all, but I don't think he should be any higher than third pairing on this team. He's still got holes in its defensive game, and I must have watched a different tournament than everyone else this summer because I didn't think he was good at all during the WCs; he was handling the puck like a grenade and missed several defensive assignments.

So it wasn't just me. I also saw a very mediocre Eric Brewer at the worlds. He has to be one of the most overrated defencemen in the NHL right now.

Niedermayer - Foote
Jovanovski - Redden
Regehr - Brewer
---------------
Hannan - Bouwmeester


That's how I see the pairings at the World Cup. Just noticed, only one right handed shot from the blueline.

So it wasn't just me. I also saw a very mediocre Eric Brewer at the worlds. He has to be one of the most overrated defencemen in the NHL right now.

Niedermayer - Foote
Jovanovski - Redden
Regehr - Brewer
---------------
Hannan - Bouwmeester


That's how I see the pairings at the World Cup. Just noticed, only one right handed shot from the blueline.
:lol :lol Regehr was picked after the 6 from the Olympics. The 4 from the Olympic team still left are Niedermayer, Foote, Jovanovski and Brewer. In the World Championships, wasn't Brewer paired with Niedermayer. Stop overrating Regehr. BTW, when the Olympic team was announced, it was Quinn and Hitchcock that wanted Brewer on the team. Lowe didn't say anything. Every watch "Gold Rush 2002." It's time you should.

Regehr shouldn't be on the team. The only reason he got on there is because of how well he played in the playoffs. He wasn't even on the radar when they first started talking about naming defensemen.

Gretzky even stated that he sees Brewer as a top 4.

C'mon, you don't have to flat-out lie just because you're an Oil fan and don't like Flames players. Regehr was named to the "short-list" well before the playoffs even started (February 11th). Regehr also had a very good regular season but most people only payed attention to him in the playoffs.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040211.wworldcup11/BNStory/Sports/

:lol :lol Regehr was picked after the 6 from the Olympics. The 4 from the Olympic team still left are Niedermayer, Foote, Jovanovski and Brewer. In the World Championships, wasn't Brewer paired with Niedermayer. Stop overrating Regehr. BTW, when the Olympic team was announced, it was Quinn and Hitchcock that wanted Brewer on the team. Lowe didn't say anything. Every watch "Gold Rush 2002." It's time you should.

I own it actually. Just because Brewer was on the Olympic team does not mean he will play over Regehr. I am not overrating Regehr at all. I have him at #5 on the depth chart, ahead of Brewer, Hannan & J-Bo.

Gretzky said that Regehr was ahead of Redden on the depth chart but I am realistic enough to see that Redden will likely move ahead of Regehr. Why can't you be realistic enough to see Brewer for what he is, a #6, #5 at best. Most will argue that he should not even be on the team. I am not overrating or underrating anyone. You are overrating Brewer and underrating Regehr & Redden if you think Brewer is top 4 material.

C'mon, you don't have to flat-out lie just because you're an Oil fan and don't like Flames players. Regehr was named to the "short-list" well before the playoffs even started (February 11th). Regehr also had a very good regular season but most people only payed attention to him in the playoffs.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040211.wworldcup11/BNStory/Sports/

OWNED !! Nice try Hemsky.

what a nice situation to be in, controversey and heated debate b/c....Eric Brewer is on the team?

Speaks about the defensive depth in Canada.

Could be much worse dudes, we could have Gill. :teach:

what a nice situation to be in, controversey and heated debate b/c....Eric Brewer is on the team?

Speaks about the defensive depth in Canada.

Could be much worse dudes, we could have Gill. :teach:

True dat.

what a nice situation to be in, controversey and heated debate b/c....Eric Brewer is on the team?

Speaks about the defensive depth in Canada.

Could be much worse dudes, we could have Gill. :teach:


Yeah, I guess, although it's probable Gill doesn't get big time minutes, so it's really not that big of a deal. He can be useful in the right situation, especially on the NHL sized ice surface.

Regehr shouldn't be on the team. The only reason he got on there is because of how well he played in the playoffs. He wasn't even on the radar when they first started talking about naming defensemen.

Gretzky even stated that he sees Brewer as a top 4.
Classic case of pot calling kettle

Remember this dump you left?

Why is it that the Oilers players are the ones constantly getting criticized. When the team was announced, who was it criticized that shouldn't be on there. Yup, the two players from the Oilers. Why can't Regehr or Hannan be on the bench. Why does it have to be Hannan. Same with Smyth. Someone in a paper mentioned that Smyth could quite possible be in the PB. Funny that only the Oilers players get mentioned for the PB but none of the other players. :banghead:

BTW, where does Gretz say Brewer is on the top 4 defenseman? Because I can prove Regehr was selected No 7 initially, ahead of Redden. Meaning right now, he'd be Gretzky's No 5 choice on Team Canada.