Team Russia Thread

TOGLIATTI
08-09-2004, 09:02 AM
This is were to post anything about team Russia. News, etc.

Can one of the moderators sticky this please.

TOGLIATTI
08-09-2004, 09:05 AM
Should Ovechkin play on number one line with Fedorov?

Who should the captian be?

Peter25
08-09-2004, 09:07 AM
Fedorov has declined to play in the World Cup so Russia will be without itīs two best centers Fedorov and Alexei Zhamnov.

ALF AmericanLionsFan
08-09-2004, 09:30 AM
I didn't know Fedorov has declined. Where did you see this?

TORRUS
08-09-2004, 10:11 AM
WHAT? Fedorov has declined?! :cry: Where did you get that? If that's true I'm afraid there is nothing left for Russia at this tournament!

I just prey to God that everything will be great before the Olympics!
:cry: :cry: :cry:

Markov
08-09-2004, 10:14 AM
I never heard anything about Fedorov declining. :dunno: It has all been rumors so far.

TOGLIATTI
08-09-2004, 10:18 AM
Fedorov has declined to play in the World Cup so Russia will be without itīs two best centers Fedorov and Alexei Zhamnov.

Do you know what you are talking about?????

Jason MacIsaac
08-09-2004, 10:20 AM
Kozlov can handle the 2nd line job.....1st line is pushing it though...

Peter25
08-09-2004, 10:43 AM
I read from a Finnish source that Sport-Express has said that Fedorov wonīt play in the World Cup.

Vincent Vega
08-09-2004, 11:57 AM
Kozlov can handle the 2nd line job.....1st line is pushing it though...

I'm guessing it will look like this then...

1st line: Alexei Yashin
2nd line: Pavel Datsyuk
3rd line: Viktor Kozlov
4th line: Artem Chubarov

Thoughts?

palsoft
08-09-2004, 11:58 AM
I read from a Finnish source that Sport-Express has said that Fedorov wonīt play in the World Cup.

That's not official so far, i think. If it will be, i should now about that, because i'm doing portal for WC2004.

Simagin
08-09-2004, 12:53 PM
Fedorov has declined to play in the World Cup so Russia will be without itīs two best centers Fedorov and Alexei Zhamnov.

Valeri Bure has declined too....

http://www.metallurg.ru/news/12004/

DatsyukOwnzU
08-09-2004, 03:15 PM
I'm guessing it will look like this then...

1st line: Alexei Yashin
2nd line: Pavel Datsyuk
3rd line: Viktor Kozlov
4th line: Artem Chubarov

Thoughts?

IMO, Datsyuk should start above Yashin especially with more open ice in the tournament...I am a little biased though.

hockeyscribe22
08-09-2004, 03:58 PM
Don't speak Russian! :help:

BruinsGirl
08-09-2004, 04:49 PM
Valeri Bure has declined too....

http://www.metallurg.ru/news/12004/

Wow...they sound really mad in their discussions (after article)..

"В призывах к оральному сексу к компании Хабби/Зубби/Жамми теперь прибавляется Федди... " Heh-heh-heh. :eek:

Markov
08-09-2004, 04:59 PM
Wow...they sound really mad in their discussions (after article)..

"В призывах к оральному сексу к компании Хабби/Зубби/Жамми теперь прибавляется Федди... " Heh-heh-heh. :eek:


:lol That made me laugh.



Anyway, who will be left on the roster? It seems every other day someone is declining to go.

Jussi
08-09-2004, 06:04 PM
IMO, Datsyuk should start above Yashin especially with more open ice in the tournament...I am a little biased though.

What open ice? It's NHL sized rinks, ie. 26 meters wide. The European rinks might be a little wider, though. The Hartwall Arena rink might be 28 meters, not sure it can be made narrower.

Oz
08-09-2004, 06:18 PM
I'm very excited about seeing Ovechkin and Kovalchuk play in the pre-tourney game against the US here in Columbus. Since the game doesn't mean anything besides practice, how much ice time do you think Ovechkin will get?

Also, Zherdev has said in a few interviews that he would gladly play for the team if he gets the call.

Jason MacIsaac
08-09-2004, 06:20 PM
I'm very excited about seeing Ovechkin and Kovalchuk play in the pre-tourney game against the US here in Columbus. Since the game doesn't mean anything besides practice, how much ice time do you think Ovechkin will get?

Also, Zherdev has said in a few interviews that he would gladly play for the team if he gets the call.
If I were at their camp I would want to see Kovalchuk and Ovechkin together and compare their skill sets. Ovehkin may even have a better wrist shot then Kovalchuk.

Zine
08-09-2004, 08:26 PM
Seems like the roster is constantly changing. So as of now, far those who won't play or are injured are:

G Khabibulin
G Nabokov
D Malakhov
D D. Markov
D Zubov
F Mogilny
F Zhamnov
F Fedorov
F Bure
F S. Kozlov

* Zhitnik is now listed on the roster at NHL.com

Tretiak
08-09-2004, 08:43 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/world_cup_hockey/news_story.asp?ID=94237&hubName=world_cup_hockey


Russian lineup a work in progress

Canadian Press

8/9/2004

It's anybody's guess who'll show up for Russia's World Cup of Hockey training camp.

Alexei Zhitnik is the latest NHL star to indicate he probably won't be in Kloten, Switzerland, a week Thursday.

palsoft
08-10-2004, 04:16 AM
Seems like the roster is constantly changing. So as of now, far those who won't play or are injured are:

G Khabibulin
G Nabokov
D Malakhov
D D. Markov
D Zubov
F Mogilny
F Zhamnov
F Fedorov
F Bure
F S. Kozlov

* Zhitnik is now listed on the roster at NHL.com

That's pretty many players so far. So there's only one goalie at this time on roster?

TORRUS
08-10-2004, 05:25 AM
That's pretty many players so far. So there's only one goalie at this time on roster?

No, two - Bryzgalov and Sokolov.


I still think that Fedorov will be there. The same thing was before the Olympics.

thome_26
08-10-2004, 06:33 AM
I put that article through a translator and it did say that Federov was a no go - although it was very unclear exactly why and if it was for sure or who confirmed it or what not because of the poor translation.

IMO Yashin could lead the team to a good showing as the number one center.

Jason MacIsaac
08-10-2004, 07:47 AM
Get Suglobov for the team!!!!!! hehe

TORRUS
08-10-2004, 08:34 AM
I think that Tyutin could be a good replacement if any of Russian defencemans decide to decline!

TOGLIATTI
08-10-2004, 08:55 AM
Seems like the roster is constantly changing. So as of now, far those who won't play or are injured are:

G Khabibulin
G Nabokov
D Malakhov
D D. Markov
D Zubov
F Mogilny
F Zhamnov
F Fedorov
F Bure
F S. Kozlov

* Zhitnik is now listed on the roster at NHL.com


Fedorov is on the roster as well at NHL.com

TOGLIATTI
08-10-2004, 09:03 AM
I think Vitaly Vishnevski from Anahiem will do well for the team. He is still a little rough on the edges, but he will be a big physical presence. He can play big minutes, and is a good skater.

wilka91*
08-11-2004, 01:41 PM
this team sucks. no one wants to play ... oh well, we'll see how the young players can do against NHLers

Tretiak
08-11-2004, 04:45 PM
Fedorov just officially dropped out:
:shakehead


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=94467&hubName=

1991
08-11-2004, 04:50 PM
That's another major blow to this team...

Pull Russia out of the tournament, and put in Ukraine! ;)

Thresher
08-11-2004, 05:04 PM
"...goalie Evgeni Nabokov of the San Jose Sharks is said to be unfit after arthroscopic knee surgery."

numerous other sources have said Nabokov is expected to recover in time for the World Cup of Hockey...so, I wouldn't count him out just yet...then again, with so many backing away from the apparently discombobulated (dis)organization that is Team Russia...Nabokov may not want to man the crease

eh, who knows

tbr
08-11-2004, 05:11 PM
Does anyone think they would give Sergei Brylin a look. The guy does have three cups and can play where ever they need him. It would be nice to see him get recognized.

TORRUS
08-11-2004, 07:36 PM
Team sucks. Obviously players don't care much about this tournament. If nothing it will be a big experience for the young players who are the future of Russian hockey. It's totaly f..... up! Since it got so far it wouldn't harm much to put Zherdev, Tyutin, Kondratiev, Semin, Mozyakin and others in. At least we know they would give 150 %

Rob
08-11-2004, 09:29 PM
My question is, do Russian hockey fans care much about this tournament? Will it be televised back in Russia?

Buya89
08-11-2004, 10:57 PM
My question is, do Russian hockey fans care much about this tournament? Will it be televised back in Russia?

OFCORSE WE CARE. In Russia the 2 most popular sports are hockey and soccer. But since our superstars are too good to represent our country you dont see alot of enthusiasm from fans :(

deathbear
08-12-2004, 12:55 AM
if pavel bure was healthy, you know he'd play.

Buya89
08-12-2004, 12:16 PM
if pavel bure was healthy, you know he'd play.


Although people might have critisized him for being selfish watever.... He was always a big patriot and came up huge in world cup/olympics... Great competitor. Great Player...

TOGLIATTI
08-12-2004, 12:36 PM
None of the older Russians want to play for the corrupt hockey federation. They left to get away from all that. I bet they would have if Larionov was the head of the team. But he wont even have anything to do with them. It's all a mess. Chaos and mass hysteria. Need to clean house. If winning were the top priority for the Russians, this would not happen. Its all politics. Zherdev should already be on the team. His battle with the RIHF is a mess.

Anyway, once NHL players were allowed to play in the Olympics, the World Cup became a joke. Look at all the players not playing for the other countrys.

thrill_me_mogilny
08-16-2004, 11:36 PM
I agree Togliatti. If Tikhonov were fired(right...) or couldn't coach due to some illness/accident, I bet Fedorov's aches and pains would heal in time for the WC!

In a way I'm glad that the Russians are not fielding a full team of NHLers. These guys will be playing for jobs, and it's a great chance for non-Russians to see players we never get to see.

Simagin
08-18-2004, 12:39 PM
Zherdev ??????????????????

http://www.metallurg.ru/news/12104/

Alfons
08-19-2004, 02:17 PM
What about this possible line up. what do you think?

Samsonov Yashin Kovalev
Kovalchuk Kozlov Kvasha
Ovechkin Datsyuk Zherdev/Frolov
Zubrus Chubarov Kovalenko

Gonchar Kasparaitis
Markov Kalinin
Volchenkov Vishnevski

Bryzgalov/Nabokov

Buya89
08-19-2004, 06:56 PM
LETS GO RUSSIA!!!!!!!



we might not strike fear w/out bure, but i bet if russians get chemistry they'd be hard to play against. Look at their team everyone but yashin/afanosenkov is extremely good skater, so we got speed and scoring touch... now we need goalie... grit... strategy and defensive D!!!!!
hehe

Vic Rattlehead
08-19-2004, 07:21 PM
The Russians are still talented at the left side on offence...

Zine
08-20-2004, 02:55 AM
I'd like to see these lines

Kovalchuk - Datsyuk - Kvasha
Kovalev - Yashin - Afinogenov
Samsonov - Kozlov - Frolov
Zubrus - Chubarov - Kovalenko

Gonchar - Kasparaitis
Kalinin - Markov
Volchenkov - Vishnevski

Gainey23
08-20-2004, 01:31 PM
as disappointed as i am about Zhamnov not being on the squad, i'm still looking forward to seeing this team... kids like Zherdev and Chistov are blackballed off this squad because they are unfairly painted as 'deserters.'

still, looking forward to seeing guys like Kalinin, Afanasankov, (and obviously great anticipation for Ovechkin).
also curious to see how well Kovalenko performs..
hard to believe i'd be saying this years later, having grown up on CCCP dominance, but Team Russia would have to be considered a sleeper/darkhorse to win it all.

Proffessor G DIDDY
08-21-2004, 08:01 AM
I think if the Russians work hard in their own end and convert from counterattacks they can win. They got a lot of talent in offense but their defense will be key. Another thing is that their coach must spread the experience throughout the lineup some of these need a veteran player on their player to rely on that being said here's my team:

Samsonov - Datsyuk - Kovalev
Kovalchuk - Yashin - Ovechkin
Chubarov - Kozlov - Zubrus
Afinogenov - Petrov - Kovalenko
Afanasenkov - Kvasha - Frolov

Gonchar - Volchenkov
Tverdovsky - Kalinin
Kasparaitus - Vishnevski
Khanavo - Markov

Bryzgalov - Sokolov - Fomichev

Obviously Nabokov will be number one if he's health. Where are players like Antropov, Brylin, Nikolshin, Malakhov, Markov and Bure. Russia would be a lot more competitve with their full team, what happened ???

brian
08-21-2004, 10:03 AM
Antropov is a Kazakh and has played for them in the past. Unlike Nabokov, Antropov doesn't want to play for Russia and considers himself a Kazakh. He could have played for Russia at this World Cup if he wanted to, but not in an IIHF sanctioned tournament.

Buya89
08-22-2004, 04:26 PM
We dont need Antropov.... why would we, Kvasha could easily replace his size or yashin.