[UKR] Ukrainian Hockey Thread

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FORWARDS:

Ruslan Fedotenko, Tampa Bay Lightning (NHL) [LW/RW]

- First Ukrainian Stanley Cup Champion. He brought the Stanley Cup home, during the summer of 2004 as he lead the Tampa Bay Lightning to victory over the Calgary Flames in game seven. He is a big guy, which is rare. He is also a presence infront of the net. His defensive game isn't too shabby either. He comes to play big games, loves to play offense.

Alexei Ponikarovsky, Toronto Maple Leafs (NHL) [LW/RW]

- Alexei is by the far the biggest and strongest Ukrainian to ever hit the ice. His speed is a great asset. Consistancy must get better if Alexei wants to be remembered as one of the best. He is exactly what Ukraine needs, an in-your-face player that can put the puck in the back of the net.

Sergei Varlamov, Ak Bars Kazan (RSL) [LW/RW]

- Sergei is not very tall but he's a strong guy. He likes to dangle with the puck and when he shoots it, watch out it's deadly and accurate. Arguably Ukraine's best shot. He's been a regular for the Ukrainian national team and has recieved plenty of ice time due to the better Ukrainian players teams going farther into the play-offs.

Vadim Shakhraychuk, Dynamo Moscow (RSL) [C]

- Arguably Ukraine's best international tournament player. He posseses impressive offensive skills, and will put up points in a hurry. Vadim is very popular in Russia as he has played well with a team full of stars at Dyanmo Moscow. He has an accurate shot and good skating, an all round offensive player. I'm suprised he never got a chance to play in North America, who's knows what could of happened.

Other Notable Forwards

- Andrei Mikhonov [C/LW], Oleksandr Matveichuk [LW], Boris Protsenko [RW], Konstantin Kalmikov [LW], Evgeny Lazarev [RW], Konstantyn Kasyanchuk [LW/C/RW], Vlad Serov [LW], Roman Salnikov [LW], Vitaly Semenchenko [LW], Oleg Timchenko [LW], Sergei Kharchenko [LW/C/RW], Aleksandr Bobkin [LW/C/RW], Evgeny Pastukh [RW], Bogdan Savenko [RW], Vitali Litvinenko [RW], Vasili Bobrovnikov [LW/C/RW], Vladimir Slivchenko [RW], Alexander Zinevich [LW/C/RW], Ruslan Bezschasny [LW/C/RW], Valentin Oletski [RW], Dmitri Tsyrul [LW], Artem Gnidenko [LW/C/RW]


DEFENCEMAN:

Dmitri Tolkunov, Amur Tigers Khabarovsk (RSL) [D]

- Dmitri is a vital piece of Ukraine's national team. He plays minutes on the power play and the penalty kill. He is very reponsible in his own end and makes the good first pass. He can shoot the puck as well, but he does have a small frame. That's the only reason why Dmitri couldn't succeed at the NHL with the Blackhawks.

Gennady Razin, Amur Tigers Khabarovsk (RSL) [D]

- Drafted by Montreal in 1997, le Canadiens were hoping for more production on the farm from Gennady, he posted solid numbers in my opinion but Montreal's loss is Europe's gain. Gennady is your typical stay-at-home defenceman, he's responsbile defensively and can chip in with a point here and there. His big frame allows him to lay the body on opposing players.

Yuri Gunko, Sokol Kiev (EEHL) [D]

- Yuri was drafted by the St.Louis Blues in round 9 in 1992. His frame 6'3 220lbs, makes him one of the biggest Ukraine's to dawn the jersey. Physical player who loves to dish out the big hits, he could be more responsible defensively though. He also chips in with an assist or two occasionally to help out the cause.

Other Notable Defenceman

Valeri Shiryayev [Retired?/D], Konstantin Ryabenko [D], Aleksandr Skorokhod [D], Denis Isaenko [D/F], Vyacheslav Zavalnyuk [D], Oleksandr Zlotkin [D], Andrei Sryubko [D], Artem Ostroushko [D], Maksim Linnik [D], Dmitri Yakushin [D], Sergei Klimentiev [D], Vyacheslav Timchenko [D], Oleg Polkovnikov [D], Aleksandr Savitsky [D]


GOALTENDERS:

Konstantin Simchuk, Salavat Yulayev (RSL) [G]

- Konstantin has been Ukraine's MVP is the last several tournaments, he has always given his team a chance to win every night. He tryed playing in North America in several minor leagues but never got adjusted to the North American game, so back to Europe he went and has been relatively successful.

Igor Karpenko, Metallurg Magnitogorsk (RSL) [G]

- Who can forget December 27th 1996 in Boston, at the World Juniors. Ukraine beat team USA 4-3 because of the outstanding play of this young goaltender. Igor had a couple of stints in the AHL and ECHL but never got the hang of it so instead he returned to Europe, playing as the starting goaltender for the Metallurg Magnitogorsk for the past five seasons.

Other Notable Goaltenders

Evgeny Brul [G], Valentin Chernenko [G], Sergei Tkachenko [G], Vladimir Seliverstov [G]

PROSPECTS: (Under the Age of 20)

Forwards
Denis Ryabtsev, Sokol Kiev (EEHL) [LW/C/RW]
Sergei Chernenko, Sokol Kiev (EEHL) [LW/C/RW]
Alexsandr Shevchenko, Sokol Kiev (EEHL) [LW/C/RW]
Aleksei Koval, HK Kiev (UKH) [LW/C/RW]
Evgeny Onischenko, HK Kiev (UKH) [LW/C/RW]
Anatoli Bogdanov, TuTo Turku (Jr. A I divisioona) [LW/C/RW]
Dmitri Rudenko, Gazovik-2 Tyumen (RUS 3rd level) [LW/C/RW]
Andrei Borisov, HK Kiev (UKH) [LW/C/RW]
Egor Egorov, Druzhba-78 Kharkov (UKH) [LW/C/RW]
Pavel Borisenko, HK Kiev (UKH) [LW/C/RW]
Oleksi Voytsekhivsky, HK Kiev (EEHL Div. B) [LW/C/RW]
Roman Krivda, Druzhba-78 Kharkov [LW/C/RW]
Ivan Oleynik, Team Ukraine [LW/C/RW]
Mikhailo Radetsky, ATEK Kiev (UKH) [LW/C/RW]
Dmitri Naida, Druzhba-78 Kharkov (UKH) [LW/C/RW]
Viktor Andrushenko, Khimvolokno (EEHL) [LW/C/RW]
Alexei Voytsekhovsky, HK Kiev (EEHL Div. B) [LW/C/RW]
Aleksandr Mikolenko, Druzhba-78 Kharkov (UKH) [LW/C/RW]
Maksim Podkosov, Druzhba-78 Kharkov (UKH) [LW/C/RW]
Roman Blagoy, HK Kiev (UKH) [LW/C/RW]

Defenceman
Aleksi Lubnin, HK Kiev (UKH) [D]
Aleksandr Romanenko, Druzhba-78 Kharkov (UKH) [D]
Daniil Gurev, Druzhba-78 Kharkov (UKH) [D]
Sergei Stolyarenko, Druzhba-78 Kharkov (UKH) [D]
Pavel Kozhokin, Druzhba-78 Kharkov (UKH) [D]
Vladimir Aleksyuk, Lokomotiv-2 Yaroslavl (RUS 3rd level) [D]
Sergei Stolyarenko, Druzhba-78 Kharkov (UKH) [D]
Daniil Gurev, Druzhba-78 Kharkov (UKH) [D]
Ruslan Sviridov, Team Ukraine [D]

Goaltenders
Mykola Voroshnov, Kanata Stallions (CJHL) [G]
Ilya Tarankov, Teknolog Ukhta (RUS 3rd level) [G]
Sergei Sorokolat, Druzhba-78 Kharkov (UKH) [G]
Sergei Gavrilyuk, HK Kiev (UKH) [G]
Aleksandr Sokolenko, HK Kiev (UKH) [G]

Honorable Retirees

Dmitri Khristich, Born on 23/07/69 in Kiev, Ukraine
- Drafted by Washington in 1988, 120th overall
- Played 11 seasons in the NHL
- Played in NHL All-Star Game 1997, 1999
- Represted Ukraine 4 times at the International Level
- 1102 Professional Games Played
- 755 Total Points

The World Cup has just announced that it has expanded from 8 teams participating to 12! They phoned me up and told me to send a Ukrainian team immediately ;)

With all the players let go by there professional clubs, Ukraine's line-up would look something like this if I were in charge...

Line 1) Ruslan Fedotenko - Dmitri Khristich - Vitali Litvinenko

Line 2) Konstantin Kalmikov - Vadim Shakhraychuk - Vadim Slivchenko

Line 3) Alexei Ponikarovsky - Andrei Mikhonov - Sergei Varlamov

Line 4) Aleksandr Matveichuk - Aleksandr Bobkin - Boris Protsenko


Line 1) Dmitri Tolkunov - Sergei Klimentiev

Line 2) Valeri Shiryayev - Yuri Gunko

Line 3) Gennady Razin - Vyacheslav Zavalnyuk


Goaltender 1) Konstantin Simchuk

Goaltender 2) Igor Karpenko


Healthy Scratches
1) Sergei Kharchenko, Forward
2) Evgeny Lazarev, Forward
3) Bogdan Savenko, Forward
4) Maksim Linnik, Defenceman
5) Aleksandr Skorokhod, Defenceman
6) Vladimir Seliverstov, Goaltender

Didn't know Khristich retired. Did Shiryayev as well?

Other notables I'd add:
D Sergei Klimentiev (best Ukraine d-man in my oppinion)
F Vitali Litvinenko (one of the better forwards the last few years)
D Vyacheslav Timchenko
F Vasili Bobrovnikov
F Vladimir Slivchenko
F Alexander Zinevich
F Ruslan Bezschasny
F Valentin Oletsky
D Oleg Polkovnikov

I gather that prospects Viktor Andrushenko and Alexei Voytsekhovsky are the best to come along in quite a while - particularly Andrushenko.

Didn't know Khristich retired. Did Shiryayev as well?

Other notables I'd add:
D Sergei Klimentiev (best Ukraine d-man in my oppinion)
F Vitali Litvinenko (one of the better forwards the last few years)
D Vyacheslav Timchenko
F Vasili Bobrovnikov
F Vladimir Slivchenko
F Alexander Zinevich
F Ruslan Bezschasny
F Valentin Oletsky
D Oleg Polkovnikov

I gather that prospects Viktor Andrushenko and Alexei Voytsekhovsky are the best to come along in quite a while - particularly Andrushenko.

Alrite, thanks for the input. I'll add it to the thread.

I have no clue what's up with Dmitri, he did not play for Ukraine at the latest World Championships and he is not listed on the Metallurg Magnitogorsk roster. As for Valeri Shiryayev, I think it is time to hang up the skates but on EuroHockey.net it says he's listed at SC Langnau for the 04/05 season which is incredible for the 41 year old.

Ahh yes, Sergei and Vitali totally skipped my mind.

May I ask, what's your input on how a line-up would look like?

Alrite, thanks for the input. I'll add it to the thread.

I have no clue what's up with Dmitri, he did not play for Ukraine at the latest World Championships and he is not listed on the Metallurg Magnitogorsk roster. As for Valeri Shiryayev, I think it is time to hang up the skates but on EuroHockey.net it says he's listed at SC Langnau for the 04/05 season which is incredible for the 41 year old.

Ahh yes, Sergei and Vitali totally skipped my mind.

May I ask, what's your input on how a line-up would look like?

Assuming that Khristich and Shirayev are still playing my line-up would be

Ruslan Fedotenko - Dmitri Khristich - Vitali Litvinenko
Alexei Ponikarovky - Vladimir Shakhraichuk - Sergei Varlamov
Roman Salnikov - Vasili Bobrovnikov - Boris Protsenko
Vladimir Slivchenko - Vlad Serov - Bodgan Savenko
(ex: Artem Gnidenko, Konstantin Kasyanchuk, Dmitri Tsyrul, Valentin Oletsky)

Sergei Klimentiev - Gennady Razin
Valeri Shiryayev - Dmitri Tolkunov
Yuri Gunko - Vyacheslav Zavalnyuk
(ex: Andrei Sryubko, Vyacheslav Timchenko, Alexander Savitsky)

Konstantin Simchuk
Igor Karpenko
(ex:Evgeny Brul, Vladimir Seliverstov)

Sort of off topic, but I think Dmitri Khristich is very underrated, career-wise. He doesn't seem to get much respect.

Sort of off topic, but I think Dmitri Khristich is very underrated, career-wise. He doesn't seem to get much respect.

Agreed, 2-Time NHL All-Star didn't get enough credit.

His NHL stats will tell you the whole story...


Dmitri Khristich - GP G A PTS +/-
WSH NHL 90/91 - 40 13 14 27 -1
WSH NHL 91/92 - 80 36 37 73 +24
WSH NHL 92/93 - 64 31 36 67 +29
WSH NHL 93/94 - 83 29 29 58 -2
WSH NHL 94/95 - 48 12 14 26 0
LA NHL 95/96 - 76 27 37 64 0
LA NHL 96/97 - 75 19 37 56 +8
BOS NHL 97/98 - 82 29 37 66 +25
BOS NHL 98/99 - 79 29 42 71 +11
TOR NHL 99/00 - 53 12 18 30 +8
TOR NHL 00/01 - 27 2 6 8 - 8
WSH NHL 00/01 - 43 10 19 29 - 8
WSH NHL 01/02 - 61 9 12 21 +2

Dmitri Khristich officially retired from professional hockey at the age of 35, last season he posted 4 goals, 7 assists and 11 points with Metallurg Magnitogorsk of the Russian Super League...

So ends Ukraine's best NHL hockey player ever to put on the skates.

With the news that Sokol Kiev will be joining up with the league in Belarus, Sokol added some key players to insure a competitive team. Goaltender Evgeny Brul, defenceman Maksim Linnik and forwards Aleksandr Matveichuk, Vitali Litvinenko, Roman Salnikov all transferred to the Kiev based team.

These players have come from back to play in Ukraine after having previous experience in North America and Russia.

I personally think it's great to see these Ukrainians coming back home to help the cause, the Sokol team looks very competitive and the teams from Belarus and Latvia have there hands full.

I know both were born in Ukraine, but don't they play for Russia?

I know both were born in Ukraine, but don't they play for Russia?

Yes they both play for Russia...

I've stickied this. If it gets plenty of activity and/or views I'll keep it stickied. If it gets no use I'll unsticky it.

I know both were born in Ukraine, but don't they play for Russia?

same goes for Zhitnik.

same goes for Zhitnik.

So does Vitaly Vishnevski, Denis Shvidki, Alexei Mikhnov... and the list goes on

So does Vitaly Vishnevski, Denis Shvidki, Alexei Mikhnov... and the list goes on
Oleg Tverdovsky

Babchuk plays for russia? Sry I dont know much about Eruo hockey, but why would he play for them when it comes to a country type tourney?

Babchuk does play for Russia, why?

Russia participates in all the major hockey tournaments while Ukraine are a regular at the World Championships, but not much else. Anton wants to play in those big tournaments

Ukraine and Russia were still USSR when he was born, he wanted more of a challenge and wanted to be around future hockey players so Russia was his pick...

Really, if you want that answer you would have to ask him :dunno:

Thank you much for your answer... and I might just take you up on that and see what he has to say!
I wasnt trying to be rude, I have nothing against Russia, but I just didnt know if there was an outstanding reason why he would play for Russia when hes listed as being from the Ukraine.
sry i didnt mean to insult anyone...

Hopefully as time goes on, the Ukrainians will be able to ice a team full of their native stars instead of living in the shadow of Russia.

That's true, and Ukraine is home to one of the best hockey factories..Druzhba '78

Vyacheslav, lovin the avatar! :yo: :handclap:

Thanks! I saw it on the Ukrainian hockey website you linked and I had to have it.

Ukraine kicked off the Euro Ice Hockey Challenge with a 7-4 loss to Latvia yesterday. Isenko, Bobrovnikov, Litvnenko and Salnikov scored the goals. Ukraine plays Belarus on September 4th and France on the 5th.


Roster:

Goaltenders:
Evgeni Brul "Сокол"
Vadim Seliverstov "Сокол"

Defenceman:
Yuri Gunko "Сокол"
Denis Isenko ХК "Гомель", Белоруссия
Nikolai Ladihin "Сокол"
Yuri Navarenko "Сокол"
Oleg Polkovnikov "Сокол"
Vasiily Poloniski "Сокол"
Aleksandr Saviski "Сокол"
Vladimir Chernenko "Сокол"

Forwards
Vasiily Bobrovnikov "Сокол"
Artem Bondarev "Сокол"
Artem Hnidenko "Сокол"
Vikor Honcharenko "Сокол"
Konstantin Kasyanchuk без клуба
Vitaly Litvnenko без клуба
Aleksandr Matveichuk "Сокол"
Valentin Oleski "Сокол"
Evgeni Pastuh "Сокол"
Roman Salnikov "Сокол"
Vitaly Semenchenko ХК "Гомель", Белоруссия
Sergey Harchenko "Сокол"

Pretty much 90% of the team play for "Sokol" Kiev, disappointing loss to Latvia but i'm liking this team. Nice to see some younger players in Matveichuk and Pastuh getting a chance to play.

Awful goaltendering in my opinion, Ukraine needs either Simchuk or Karpenko to be successful at an international stage. Either then that, defence depth could be better.

Ukraine lost to Belarus by a score of 5-1 yesterday, but bounced back beating up on France with a 7-1 victory.

Final Standings

1) Latvia - 3 wins, 0 losses, 18 goals for, 8 against, 6 points
2) Belarus - 2 wins, 1 loss, 12 goals for, 8 against, 4 points
3) Ukraine - 1 win, 2 losses, 12 goals for, 13 against, 2 points
4) France - 0 wins, 3 losses, 6 goals for, 19 against, 0 points

Is that a four team tourney or is that a division of a larger tourney?

Is that a four team tourney or is that a division of a larger tourney?

That is the top division in the tournament. The second division has Denmark, Hungary, Poland and Italy playing in it, I believe.

I made a mistake, it is actually 3 groups...

Slovenia
Italy
Poland
Netherlands

Denmark
Norway
Hungary
Croatia

Latvia
Ukraine
Belarus
France

Arent Bondra and Zherdev Ukrainian.

Arent Bondra and Zherdev Ukrainian.

They were both born in Ukraine, yes.

There have been two exhibition games against national team's recently,

April 24th Belarus 3 – 5 Ukraine in Mogilev
April 26th Belarus 3 – 3 Ukraine in Gomel

On May 2nd Ukraine takes on Slovakia in Nitra

Ukraine lost 4-2 against Slovakia in Nitra,

Lines:

Simchuk

Bobrovnikov (C) - Zavalniuk
Isayenko - Sryubko
Polonitsky - Gunko

Salnikov - Shakhraychuk - Lytvynenko
Dyachenko - Shafarenko - Materukhin
Semenchenko - Hnidenko - Varlamov
Protsenko - Oletski - Donika

There lines will be very similar to the starting lineup, however i'd like to see Andrei Mikhnov in the mix.

The game was boring to say the least. I didnt even watch the 2nd and 3rd. :shakehead.

What did the Slovakian team look like (lineup)

i was live at the game in nitra from the 2nd period. so here's my 0.02$ :
it was actualy quite fun to watch.
i expected lower tempo of the game, but there was some checking along the boards, we saw some punches in a fight between granak and salnikov i think :yo:
atmosphere was not so good, like it use to be in nitra, but much much better then in other cities.
lasak was horrible and i hope he wont play in riga :banghead:
referee Konc was even worse :shakehead
slovak roster was Lasak - Podhradsky, Milo, Vydareny, Strbak, Granak, S. Hudec, Stehlik - Vaic, Rastislav Pavlikovsky, A. Nedorost - Ciernik, Kapus, Zalesak - Jarolin, Kollar, M. Kovacik - Spilar, Podkonicky, M. Hudec but i noticed some changes in it during the game.
the UKR team seemed solid but very slow and static, mainly in their own zone.
here u can see the goals link (http://www.hokejportal.sk/video/svk-ukr.mpg)
here some fans photos link (http://www.fans.sk/images/0506/060502_SVK-UKR/index.html)

GL in Latvia

Thanks a lot for the contribution!

I agree with hvdhvd. The ref was horrible.

Preliminary Round Review

1) Taking far too many penalties, leading the tournament with 96 PIMS

2) Once again the two goaltenders are carrying this team on their shoulders. Konstantin Simchuk and Igor Karpenko have played well.

3) Sergei Klymentiev is suspended two games, he's one of the better defenders however has taken some dumb penalties.

4) The offense is basically coming from 3 players and a suprising offensive burst out of big defender Yuri Gunko. Andrei Mikhnov, Yuri Dyachenko and Konstantin Kasianchuk have all contributed.

5) Veteran's Vadym Shakhraychuk and Vycheslav Zavalniuk are taking far too many stupid penalties. The Ukrainian's expected wiser play from those two.

6) Where is Sergei Varlamov? He's exactly what we'll need against the Russians.

My feeling after I watched the game vs. Sweden is that Ukraine are fairly hard to break down but they don't have any offence.

There is a long term problem though because it seems like most of the better players are beginning to get old.

There are always concerns about everything when it comes to the Ukrainian national team. However I look forward to the offensive emergance of Andrei Mikhnov and hopefully soon to be Ukrainian national team member prospect Egor Egorov.

Sergei Klimentiev was named Ukraine's top player in season 2005/06.

Second place went to Vitaly Litvinenko, and third to Konstantin Simchuk.

[UKR] Transfers

(G) Konstantin Simchuk -> HK MVD Tver [RUS]
(D) Andrei Sryubko -> Neftekhimik Nizhnekamsk [RUS]
(D) Dmitri Yakushin -> Metallurg Zhlobin [BEL]
(D) Ruslan Borisenko -> Liepâjas Metalurgs [LAT]
(F) Konstantin Kalmikov -> AS Renon [ITA]
(G) Igor Karpenko -> Amur Tigers Khabarovsk [RUS]
(D) Sergei Klimentiev -> HK MVD Tver [RUS]
(F) Evgeny Lazarev -> Richmond Riverdogs [UHL]
(F) Andrei Mikhnov -> Ak Bars Kazañ [RUS]
(D) Vyacheslav Zavalnyuk -> Severstal Cherepovets [RUS]

- Igor Karpenko impressed enough the World Championships, that his time with Sokol Kiev has ended and that he is heading to Russia to play with Khabarovsk.

- We see two key national team members in Simchuk and Klimentiev (voted 2 out of the top 3 best Ukrainian players) meet up with HK MVD Tver.

Sokol are going through some tough times, finanically and have seen key players such as starting goaltender Karpenko, and even backup keeper Fedorov move on. Also recently with the move of Gnidenko, Polonitsky, and Navarenko to Vitebsk.

Sokol are in the same situation as BK Kiev (basketball) and Arsenal Kiev (soccer). The newly elected mayor of Kiev doesn't believe in having municipal sports teams, therefore all the funds they've been recieving from the city are cut.

Sokol are looking for buyers, but no one has stepped up, but i'm sure someone will. I've heard some rumours about Arsenal Kiev, and Obolon Kiev merging too..

Kind of off-topic, where did that 1st round draft pick, in the NBA.. he's Ukrainian, where did he play?

The cup comes back to Kiev in back to back fashion, Ruslan Fedotenko brought it home for the first time in 03/04, and now Ukrainian born memebers of the Carolina Hurricanes, Oleg Tverdovsky and Anton Babchuk also have the right.

The cup comes back to Kiev in back to back fashion, Ruslan Fedotenko brought it home for the first time in 03/04, and now Ukrainian born memebers of the Carolina Hurricanes, Oleg Tverdovsky and Anton Babchuk also have the right.

really? wow

I'm glad to see Oleg bring the cup there, especially with all his years on the Russian squad and RSL

i guess pairing him with Vish in those world tournaments was more than just a coaching decision

congrats anton and oleg! hopefully we have 3 bringing it home next year! (maybe somehow ponikarovsky, vishnevski, and Z wind up on the same roster and make a cup run? lol)

edit: this hasnt happened, right? cuz the carolina sight doesnt confirm this....

This is from the Sokol Kiev website > http://www.sokol.kiev.ua/

It's the first story on the first page, but it's in Russian.

Anton and Oleg are also interested in taking the cup to Omsk for the first time as well.

good to see :)

Well, i got this from Latvian media, but i browsed some sites in Ukraine and some forums and as it seems its true:

Base team for Ukraine NT HK Sokol Kiev might back out of BOL (Belarus Open League), moreso theres a good chance team will be disbanned.

Even though Sokol in june confirmed that they will play in BOL, but after the change of political situation, club has left practicaly without finacial help and its future is in danger.

In the Belorussian newspaper "Pressbol", the new mayor of Kiev Leonid Chernovsky has stated that he doesnt care about the future of the club. So, Sokol will only recive only about 20 000 bucks, wich was given by mayore who was there before Chernovsky.

Even if the situation is unclear, many of the last seasons leaders are in Kiev and are training. Kiev hasnt signed any of those players yet, so anyone is free to leave and one by one they do. For the first time in 43 years, Sokol doesnt have pre-season camp.

I can only add - Its painfull to watch whats goin on with hockey in Ukraine. And if Sokol will be disbanned, this will hit hard the whole hockey structure in Ukraine. Critical times. Hope they will sort this out.

It's true, no money.. no hockey.

There's still hope that someone may step up with some cash and save the team, i'm shocked that no one is willing to step up thus far.

Even with the team in trouble, Sokol have still managed to keep the core of their forwards and defensemen, but have lost all of their goalies.

say it aint so :(

Babchuk with the cup in Kyiv

http://www.hockey.org.ua/Multi/StCup2006/P1010658.JPG

No O'?

Daria Werbowy should do a photoshoot with it ;)

"I wish hockey was as popular as soccer in Ukraine," he told those in attendance. "If it was, I gladly would have played for a team in Kiev." The crowd roared at the possibility.


aint that the truth

Does someone know if Vadim Shakraichuk has a russian passport? And how about Gennadi Razin and Andrei Mikhnov?

dont all former soviet citizens have russian passports?

So did Sokol revive or is it now close to being dismantled?

They are still alive,

Some more Ukrainians on the move.. Evgeny Lazarev to Dynamo Moskva, Aleksandr Matveichuk to Changchun Fuao in China?!? Valeri Shiryayev to HC La Chaux-de-Fonds, Andrei Sryubko to Torpedo Nizhny Novgorod.

Sokol Kyiv are set to begin the new season any day now, but the exhibition games have been a complete disaster being outscored 15-1 in 2 games. However these two games where played against RSL teams.

I predict Sokol to fight it out in the mid-table and possibly grab a playoff spot. Or, it can be a very long season.

06/07 Roster:

G
N. Voroshnov
E. Napnenko
V. Seliverstov

D
P.Akimov
V.Aleksiuk
O.Blahoy
A.Butochnov
E.Еmelenko
A.Kubrak
Y.Lyaskovskiy
D.Molchyn
A.Neverov
О.Polkovnikov
R.Sviridov
V.Chernenko

F
S.Babinets
А.Bobkin
V.Bobrovinikov
A.Bondarev
D.Hnitko
K.Katrich
V.Kirichenko
P.Lehachev
А.Panchenko
А.Roslyakov
D.Rudenko
S.Chernenko
A.Shevchenko
A.Yakovenko

The names that will be making the greatest impact are Bobkin, Bobrovinikov, and Shevchenko.

A.Shevchenko

And I just bought his Chelsea jersey too. :sarcasm:

A.Shevchenko:bow:

It's Alexander Shevchenko, he was once considered one of the better Ukrainian prospects as he played some junior hockey in Canada, but decided to go home.

It's Alexander Shevchenko, he was once considered one of the better Ukrainian prospects as he played some junior hockey in Canada, but decided to go home.

Pssst!

That was the joke. . .

Umm.. ok.

Former Ukrainien Players playing in England

Some former Sokol Kiev and Bekrut Keiv players are now playing for my team in England ........Hull Stingrays in the Elite league, they are all playing very well at the minute, we have Pavel Gomenuyk and Nikolai Ladygin on defence and Sergiy Rublivsky and Sergiy Kharchenko as forwards, we also have duel national Slava Koulikov playing for us as well he is classed as British now since he moved over here with his dad Alexadre Koulikov.

Other Ukrainiens that ave played for us in the past include Andre Nikoleav and Slava Timchenko.

Due to Sokol practically going under, these players were forced to find new clubs.

How is Kharchenko doing?

Due to Sokol practically going under, these players were forced to find new clubs.

How is Kharchenko doing?

Kharchenko is doing very well, taking the hits and laying on the passes for Segiy Rublivsky. Slava Koulikov is also on the 1st line with him and they are doing very well

kharchenko is on 3+7 from 11 games
Rublivsky is on 7+3
Koulikov is on 1+10

Pretty good 1st line,

Also forgot weve also had Evgeny Alipov playing for us, he was a massive fans favourite, can you remember him playing?

he was a legend here amongst the opposition players as they tried to knock him off his game , but just kept coming back smilling!

Z, lovin' the Bulba avatar

Z, lovin' the Bulba avatar

Gotta reprezent

id rock a Khmelnytsky avatar if this site would let me

Z, lovin' the Bulba avatar

I was just gonna comment on Zherdev's avatar, only I thought it was Mazepa.... :doh: :blush:

Too bad that there really isn't anything positive about Ukrainian hockey to talk about, Sokol is a bottom beater and the Ukrainian NT can't pull off somewhat of an upset result anymore. So the discussion heads towards Ukrainian legends. Which is cool too,

we should get Eugene Melnyk to put some of his millions towards rejuvinating Ukrainian hockey

hey, its realistic. hes all about his hockey ventures to blow his excess cash on

maybe get some investors from future bakery or something :p

Or he can pay Poni, Fedo, Z, Zhitty, Babs, Oleg, and Miks to play for Ukraine.

id like either option
at least feds and poni HAVE played for ukraine

and dont forget Vish and But

good night for us tonight

Zherdev - 1 goal
Ponikarovsky - 1 goal
Stempniak - 2 goals, 1 assist
Tkachuk - 1 assist
Fedotenko - 1 assist

Forgot about Vish, i'm not too high on But.. but I guess he could try-out.

I like it how there's so much information transferring in this thread, that we have to resort to unofficial nicknames.

good night for us tonight

Zherdev - 1 goal
Ponikarovsky - 1 goal
Stempniak - 2 goals, 1 assist
Tkachuk - 1 assist
Fedotenko - 1 assist

I like this guy, he was a relatively unknown last season and has earned his way to becoming one of the more notable hockey players in the NHL today. 8 points in 8 games is a great start for this guy.

yeah, i like him too


especially as a blues fan and since his last name has the same suffix as mine

Hull Stingrays in the UK Elite league have just signed Anton Butochnov, formally of Sokol Kiev...........


Anybody got any info on him, apart from the usuall Hockeydb and eurohockey net?

cheers scoobster

Preliminary roster for IIHF U-20 Div 1 A tourney in Denmark (Dec. 11-17)

Sorokolat, Aleksyuk, Egorov, Borisenko, Voytsekhovsky, Blagoy and Ogleznev should be locks for the squad baring any injury.

1 SOROKOLAT Sergei GK L 1.72 / 5'8'' 65 / 143 16 MAR 1987 South Kent School USA
2 YEGORYCHEV Igor F L 1.9 / 6'3'' 79 / 174 26 FEB 1989 Brewster Academy USA
3 ALEKSYUK Volodymyr D R 1.8 / 5'11'' 76 / 168 22 JUN 1987 HC Sokol Kiev UKR
4 GUMENYUK Artem D L 1.8 / 5'11'' 77 / 170 11 MAY 1987 South Kent School USA
5 PONOMAR Oleksandr D R 1.86 / 6'1'' 80 / 176 28 JAN 1987 Culver Academy USA
6 ROMANENKO Oleksandr D L 1.82 / 5'12'' 83 / 183 19 SEP 1987 Hebron Academy USA
7 SVYRYDOV Ruslan D L 1.78 / 5'10'' 72 / 159 08 JAN 1988 HC Sokol Kiev UKR
8 NAIDA Dmytro F L 1.86 / 6'1'' 84 / 185 15 FEB 1987 Hebron Academy USA
9 KRIVDA Roman F L 1.81 / 5'11'' 82 / 181 01 MAR 1987 Trinity-Pawling School USA
10 KOZHOKIN Pavlo D L 1.86 / 6'1'' 82 / 181 29 JUL 1987 Canterbury School USA
11 BLAGYY Roman F R 1.85 / 6'1'' 77 / 170 25 OCT 1987 Khimvolokno Mogilev BLR
12 MYKOLENKO Oleksandr F L 1.78 / 5'10'' 74 / 163 14 APR 1987 Northwood School USA
13 ZEMELEV Artem F L 1.82 / 5'12'' 78 / 172 09 FEB 1989 Arlington High School USA
14 OGLEZNEV Fillip D L 1.9 / 6'3'' 83 / 183 13 JAN 1987 Neman Grodno BLR
15 BORYSENKO Pavlo F L 1.83 / 6'0'' 77 / 170 04 JUN 1987 Liepajas Metalurgs LAT
16 YEGOROV Yegor F L 1.79 / 5'10'' 80 / 176 20 JAN 1987 Cataractes CAN
17 VOITSEKHIVSKYI Oleksii F L 1.79 / 5'10'' 72 / 159 10 MAY 1987 HC Gomel BLR
18 GORBUNOV Dmytro F R 1.78 / 5'10'' 73 / 161 04 JAN 1988 HC Brest BLR
19 PODKOSOV Maksym D L 1.82 / 5'12'' 77 / 170 27 JAN 1987 Trinity-Pawling School USA
20 NAPNENKO Ievgenii GK L 1.74 / 5'9'' 65 / 143 27 MAY 1988 HC Sokol Kiev UKR
21 NIMENKO Dmytro F L 1.78 / 5'10'' 75 / 165 01 MAY 1988 HC Gomel BLR
23 OLIINYK Ivan F R 1.78 / 5'10'' 71 / 157 12 OCT 1988 Arlington High School USA
24 NIEVIEROV Artem D R 1.8 / 5'11'' 74 / 163 01 MAR 1987 HC Sokol Kiev UKR
25 KOVAL Oleg D L 1.84 / 6'0'' 75 / 165 18 OCT 1989 Paul L. Dunbar School USA
31 LAPTYEV Sergei F L 1.86 / 6'1'' 74 / 163 31 JUL 1989 Paul L. Dunbar School USA
32 ROSLIAKOV Anton F R 1.85 / 6'1'' 78 / 172 31 JAN 1987 HC ATEK UKR
33 BABYNETS Sergei F L 1.83 / 6'0'' 73 / 161 05 SEP 1987 HC Sokol Kiev UKR
34 SAMOILENKO Denys F L 1.8 / 5'11'' 76 / 168 01 SEP 1988 HC Keramin Minsk BLR

Looks like they're trying to build a brand new 10,000 seat hockey arena in Kiev. Good to see people (players) trying to keep the sport alive in Ukraine.

http://www.metallurg.ru/news/26633/

Good to see Ukrainians doing something about the hockey situation.

Egorov is an impressive player, Blagoy will also be a main stay on Ukraine's national team for many years.

Sokol Kyiv update, in 37 games this season 6 wins, 4 ties, 2 over-time losses. And 25 L's in the loss column. Finishing, 2nd last in the Belarus Open League.

With a 7-7 record in the Ukrainian league, Sokol has also lost their crown as the dominant team in Ukraine. They finished 3rd, behind new champions ATEK Kyiv who hadn't lost a game all year, and Berkut Kyiv who finished 2nd.

On the international stage, Ukraine was one win away against Denmark to advancing to the main U-20 tournament, in Czech Republic next year.

good night for us tonight

Zherdev - 1 goal
Ponikarovsky - 1 goal
Stempniak - 2 goals, 1 assist
Tkachuk - 1 assist
Fedotenko - 1 assist

isnt he from the US?

isnt he from the US?

Yes, much like Tkachuk, they have Ukrainian roots.

Yes, much like Tkachuk, they have Ukrainian roots.


did not know, thank you.

Yes, much like Tkachuk, they have Ukrainian roots.

What about Sami Salo and Tommy Salo? Do they have Ukranian roots?:sarcasm:

What about Sami Salo and Tommy Salo? Do they have Ukranian roots?:sarcasm:

Wow, right there.. right there, now that's a classy post :bow:


:help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Ukrainian-Americans

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1156564/bio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Ukrainian-Americans

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1156564/bio

What do i need these links for? I asked u a very simple yes/no type of a Q:) Simple yes or no would've answered it:)

I wonder how people still think their jokes about salo are funny... :)

What do i need these links for? I asked u a very simple yes/no type of a Q:) Simple yes or no would've answered it:)

I guess you lack the knowledge in finding the correct forum, may I request the Finnish or Swedish board? :)

There were some really great Ukrainian kids playing junior hockey in western Canada during the mid 90's. Im earlier threads some people have alluded to Sergei Varlamov (Swift Curent Broncos) and Gennady Razin (St Albert Saints and Kamloops Blazers). There was also Andrei Lupandin (Brandon Wheat Kings), Oleg Tverdosky (Brandon Wheat Kings) and some of the other boys from Druzbha 78 who were picked up by Junior A teams in Alberta and Saskatchewan. Danius Zubrus was part of the Druzbha team also.
I saw Igor Karpenko play against the Russian team during the world junior tourney in Alberta 1996. Karpenko was a great little goalie and very athletic.The Ukraine team had Lazarenko at that time who had incredible skating skills in the offensive zone.
The Ukrainian kids all really liked Alexandre Fomitchev(Moscow Dynamo) who eventually went on to become a WHL All Star (Calgary Hitmen) and 9th round pick of the Edmonton Oilers. Alex Fomitchev came to Canada as a 16 year old and played great at the junior level. The Ukrainian players treated him like a brother affectionately calling him "Sascha" and marvelled at his athletic goaltending saves.
Oleg Tverdosky only played 7 WHL games before moving up to the NHL level. At 18 he was about 2 levels above his comparable peers talent wise, the game almost seemed to slow at that level for him.
Varlamov had a great deal of success at the WHL level. He was a strong puck control forward with an elusive sneakiness that disturbed the opponents. Andrei Lupandin was a terrific skater and tough as nails but being 5'8" made it tough to move up in the pro ranks no matter how hard he played.
One foot note that must be made,the Ukrainian community in Edmonton made a huge buffet meal for the Ukrainian and Russian kids after the World Junior game and made game tickets freely available to all who wanted to attend. Every one of those kids had seen some real hardships after the collapse of Communism and had some idea of what actual hunger felt like. I still remember seeing the Ukrainian and Russian kids waiting for the buses in Alberta during the world juniors. Playing hockey because they loved the game.Those kids were half starved and they played hockey with such passion. They deserve our respect.

Yes Salo,one has to be Ukrainian to get this joke. Salo with heavy brown bread and Vodka. No I don't think he is a Ukrainian.

There were some really great Ukrainian kids playing junior hockey in western Canada during the mid 90's. Im earlier threads some people have alluded to Sergei Varlamov (Swift Curent Broncos) and Gennady Razin (St Albert Saints and Kamloops Blazers). There was also Andrei Lupandin (Brandon Wheat Kings), Oleg Tverdosky (Brandon Wheat Kings) and some of the other boys from Druzbha 78 who were picked up by Junior A teams in Alberta and Saskatchewan. Danius Zubrus was part of the Druzbha team also.
I saw Igor Karpenko play against the Russian team during the world junior tourney in Alberta 1996. Karpenko was a great little goalie and very athletic.The Ukraine team had Lazarenko at that time who had incredible skating skills in the offensive zone.
The Ukrainian kids all really liked Alexandre Fomitchev(Moscow Dynamo) who eventually went on to become a WHL All Star (Calgary Hitmen) and 9th round pick of the Edmonton Oilers. Alex Fomitchev came to Canada as a 16 year old and played great at the junior level. The Ukrainian players treated him like a brother affectionately calling him "Sascha" and marvelled at his athletic goaltending saves.
Oleg Tverdosky only played 7 WHL games before moving up to the NHL level. At 18 he was about 2 levels above his comparable peers talent wise, the game almost seemed to slow at that level for him.
Varlamov had a great deal of success at the WHL level. He was a strong puck control forward with an elusive sneakiness that disturbed the opponents. Andrei Lupandin was a terrific skater and tough as nails but being 5'8" made it tough to move up in the pro ranks no matter how hard he played.
One foot note that must be made,the Ukrainian community in Edmonton made a huge buffet meal for the Ukrainian and Russian kids after the Wolrd Junior game and made game tickets freely available to all who wanted to attend. Every one of those kids had seen some real hardships after the collapse of Communism and had some idea of what actual hunger felt like. I still remember seeing the Ukrainian and Russian kids waiting for the buses in Alberta during the world juniors. Playing hockey because they loved the game.Those kids were half starved and they played hockey with such passion. They deserve our respect.

This is an interesting prospective on the Ukrainian kids coming over to Canada. Right now times are changing as the kids are going to American prep schools. These days looking at drafts, kids do get drafted into the NHL out of these places, so this is a positive for the kids that are coming over, plus recieveing an education isn't too bad either.

There really are not too many Ukrainian kids playing at the CHL level these days for a variety of reasons. The total number of "imports" is currently two players per team and will eventually be reduced to one.
The CJAHL teams in the mid 90's didn't have any regulations with respect to European imports, so that players like Zubrus wound up playing with the Pembroke Lumber Kings or Gennady Razin who wound up playing with St Albert Saints (AJHL) and then migrating to the WHL level as an 18 year old with the Kamloops Blazers.
It must be very tough these days for promising Ukrainian prospects to get noticed by NHL scouts or have the opportunity to play their game in Canada. Junior A teams in Canada can not really recruit the younger prospects (16-17) like they did back in the mid-90's. At the CHL level imports are increasingly mid level NHL draft prospects taken between the 3rd and 7th roundsa dntheir selction is largely based on the recommendations of NHL scouts or player agents, since it is practically impossible for CHL teams to actively scout Europe let alone the Ukraine. Unfortunately even the best Russian prospects like Malkin, Datsyuk and Kovalchuk for example never usually play even one game at the CHL level and make the direct jump to NHL level hockey. It is incredibly tough for Ukrainian kids no matter how talented or how much potential they have to get noticed. A really great kid from the Ukraine might have a big struggle even getting an agent to promote him or get him to Canada to play the Canadian style game or find a CHL junior team willing to pay all the transfer fees, language lessons, air fare etc etc on a prospect.The CHL or NHL teams might if the kid was the next Oleg Tverdosky or Sergei Fedorov, but realistically how many teenagers fit that bill? NHL ready at 19 or 20..not many kids..anywhere.
Nikolai Zherdev is a pretty terrific hockey player with some nice skills. He was just too talented as a 19 year old for any NHL team to ignore and Columbus was lucky enough to get his services. Zherdev is another prospect that never spent one day on a CHL roster during his youth. Fans of junior teams in Canada would have probably loved him.

Sorry for offtopic, but I feel it's my obligation to correct the moderator. Zherdev, don't u think that BEL stands for Belgium while the ISO country code for Belarus is BLR?
It really irritates my eyes when I see that Belgium (according to your belief) is a real hockey power somewhere in the east of Europe. :D

Yes. That's true it should be BLR,

Ukrainian preliminary roster for upcoming U-18.

Goaltenders
Mikhail Balaban 1990 Khimik Voskrsensk
Vladimir Loik 1989 Berkut Kiev
Dmitri Cherednichenko 1990 Dneprovskie Volky
DEFENSEMEN
Vitali Dvirnyuk 1990 Dneprovskie Volky
Vladimir Gavrilyuk 1990 Sokol Kiev
Roman Khromushkin 1989 Wyoming Seminary
Oleg Koval 1989 Dunbar School
Alexei Malichenko 1990 Sokol Kiev
Evgeny Matsas 1989 Sokol Kiev
Oganez Oganesyan 1990 Khimik Voskrsensk
Denis Petrukhno 1989 Capital District
Alexei Ryabikov 1989 Sokol Kiev
Denis Shevelev 1989 Sokol Kiev
Alexander Slyusarenko 1989 Sokol Kiev
Igor Vishnevsky 1989 Neman Gradno (Vitali Vishnevsky's brother)
Forwards
Valentin Aleksyuk 1989 Sokol Kiev
Alexander Badamshin 1989 Sokol Kiev
Nikita Butsenko 1990 Berkut Kiev
Vladimir Cherelyuk 1990 Dneprovskie Volky
Mikhail Dolynin 1989 Sokol Kiev
Georgy Kicha 1990 Berkut Kiev
Maxim Kvitchenko 1990 Khimik Voskresensk
Alexei Madera 1989 HC Gomel
Alexei Melnykov 1989 Sokol Kiev
Yaroslav Milashenko 1990 Dneprovskie Volky
Dmitri Siry 1989 HC Gomel
Igor Slyusar 1989 Sokol Kiev
Denis Simonov 1990 Sokol Kiev
Igor Egorichev 1989 Brewster Academy

Two of the best '89 forwards (Zemelev and Laptev) for some reason aren't listed.....same goes for goaltender Bezkhlibny.:dunno:

How big is Igor Vishnevsky?

How big is Igor Vishnevsky?

IIHF has him listed at 191 76:eek: that's pretty thin.
Played for Yaroslav juniors last year......this year had 2 assists in 11 games with Grodno's 2nd team in Belarus High League.

Yes. That's true it should be BLR,
OK, it's true, but I see neither improvement, nor adequate reaction.
Show respect to the neighbour nation. "Fix up" some thread titles!

If you were to actually click on these threads, you would notice that the title has been indeed changed.

I can't change the title's on the main page because they've been used since the start,

I'm trying to put together the best Ukrainian hockey team I can find for NHL2007 pc game. Could someone please full me in on the top players from Ukrainian or born in Ukrainian but an't playing for them.

So far I have ....

Khristich
Babchuk
Tverdovsky
Vishnevski
Zhitnik
Fedotenko
Mikhnov
Ponikarovsky
Varlamov
Bondra
Shvidki
Zherdev

Are there any other players you feel should be on this roster.

You covered it quite well,

If you need to add guys, I suggest Zubrus because he was developed by Druzhba '78 from Ukraine.

I'm trying to put together the best Ukrainian hockey team I can find for NHL2007 pc game. Could someone please full me in on the top players from Ukrainian or born in Ukrainian but an't playing for them.

So far I have ....

Khristich
Babchuk
Tverdovsky
Vishnevski
Zhitnik
Fedotenko
Mikhnov
Ponikarovsky
Varlamov
Bondra
Shvidki
Zherdev

Are there any other players you feel should be on this roster.

Anton But
Vladimir Shakhraichuk

Anton But
Vladimir Shakhraichuk

You think those guys are in NHL '07?

Its cool, I can create them

- Ponikarovsky is not going to the tournament.

- Ukraine lost to Dynamo Moscow 4:3, they play again today.

Lineup for Ukraine;

1.Каrрenko

2.Gunko — 31.Klimentiev (к)
5.Pobedonotsev — 27.Naravenko
4.Den.Isaenko — 10.O.Blagoy
6.V.Тimchenko — 9.Lyutkevich

18.Маteyhkin — 17.Shafarenko — 23.Salnikov
25.Мatviichuk — 7.Bobrovnikov — 34.Semenchenko
24.Donika — 29.Оletski — 16.О.Тimchenko
8.Bobkin — 11.Hnidenko — 15.Еgorov

2-1 win against Moscow;

22.Fedorov

9.Lyutkevich — 27.Navarenko
2.Gunko (к) — 10.О.Blagoy
5.Pobedonotsev — 4.Den.Isaenko
6.V.Timchenko — 30.Vl.Аleksiuk

18.Mateykhin — 17.Shafarenko — 23.Salnikov
25.Matviichuk — 7.Bobrovnikov — 34.Semenchenko
24.Donika — 29.Oletski — 16.Shevchenko
8.Bobkin — 11.Hnidenko — 15.Egorov

Wanted to wish u guyes good luck this time around, hope you will be able to keep yourself a place in the division A. Don't try too hard against us :), keep the energy for the denmark game!!!

Best of Luck!

Very thin roster up from with no Fedotenko, Ponikarovsky, Shakhraichuk, Varlamov or Litvinenko.:cry:

why no varlamov?

Wanted to wish u guyes good luck this time around, hope you will be able to keep yourself a place in the division A. Don't try too hard against us :), keep the energy for the denmark game!!!

Best of Luck!

We don't want Division A, we're going to stick with big boys if we beat Denmark.

I don't know where the goals are going to come from, but they need to put a couple in if they want to stick around.

P.S. According to the Ukrainian hockey fed Simchuk was on the roster, and now he isn't. :(

No Mikhnov or Kasyanchuk either.:loony: :confused:

No Mikhnov or Kasyanchuk either.:loony: :confused:

I don't understand, the Ukrainians released a media guide for these World Championships and all these guys were involved... where the hell are these guys

I don't understand, the Ukrainians released a media guide for these World Championships and all these guys were involved... where the hell are these guys


They all refused, 'cause they were afraid of unicertainty of their status in Russia. If Ukis are counted as foreign players, they won't be able to hook up with any RSL teams, as only 3 foreingers are allowed and the spots will go to Chehs, Slovaks, some Canadiens, Finns and Swedes first and foremost...

I don't understand, the Ukrainians released a media guide for these World Championships and all these guys were involved... where the hell are these guys

r u the only fan of Ukraine on hfboards?

r u the only fan of Ukraine on hfboards?

Are there supposed to be more?

Are there supposed to be more?

I'm a fan, though not a very outspoken one

hey, Z speaks for us all!

Igor Egorichev 1989 Brewster Academy
:

which reminds me - where is Egor Egorov?

which reminds me - where is Egor Egorov?

Good question,

Probably had one too many Slavutych's and couldn't find his way onto the right plane.

It's really simple now for the Ukrainians, beat Austria and they stay with the big boys.

r u the only fan of Ukraine on hfboards?

Here here [raises hand]

Although I must admit, I haven't really been following Ukr. hockey for a while now, it's just too depressing. :(

It is depressing, there's no hope in sight, ever.

So Ukraine is relegated, and will play in Div 1 for the first time since '98 which they won.

Good question,

Probably had one too many Slavutych's and couldn't find his way onto the right plane.

He can fly back with Semin!

If all the NHL'ers born in Ukraine actually played for them...Ukraine would be able to ice quite a good team. It's a shame that most of them go for Russia.

If all the NHL'ers born in Ukraine actually played for them...Ukraine would be able to ice quite a good team. It's a shame that most of them go for Russia.

The Russian posters on this board are going to destroy you for making that comment, but i'll back you up nonetheless :)

I got your back, brosif

Well, it's been almost half a year since I or someone else has posted in here. So i'll bring this aging thread out of the closet. There is much to talk about, it's looks as though hockey in Ukraine is not dead.

Sokol Kyiv have had a MUCH better season, then last. They are competing for a playoff spot, in their first year in a different league, the Vysshaya Liga (RUS-2). They've changed half their roster, adding new players, and it seems as though it is working.

As for domestic hockey in Ukraine, a new team, named 'Барс' (Bars) has come out of no where to be competing hand in hand with Sokol-2 for the Ukrainian Championship. 'Барс' are led by former Sokol Kyiv and Ukrainian National players, Brul, Savchenko, Tolkunov, Polkovnikov, and Shevchenko.

Overall, things are looking a lot better then last year. Domestically stronger, and Sokol are playing better quality sides, which only means better development of national team players.

In fact, a magazine called 'Хокей' gets published monthly and is raising a lot of discussion about the issues of Ukrainian hockey. The Ukrainian federation is talking about the possibility of creating a 4 year plan to revamp it's youth hockey, more rinks are being built at the same time.

http://search.ebay.com/ukraine-jersey-hockey_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQmaxrecordsreturnedZ300

some cool Ukie jerseys on the 'Bay right now

Is Sokol planning to join the new league in Russia (granted it starts) next season?

I think it's just a way to go around the no foreign goalies rule for the most part, you can see so many coming to Russia (Scott, Brathwait some others) it can't be for 4 month...

look what I bought!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Mat_/mom2006.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Mat_/mom2004.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Mat_/mom2007.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Mat_/mom2003s.jpg

look what I bought!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Mat_/mom2006.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Mat_/mom2004.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Mat_/mom2007.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Mat_/mom2003s.jpg

freak and a masochist :):biglaugh:

I don't know if this has been mentioned or not but Zhitnik is a Uki, he just plays for Russia during international tournaments.

I don't know if this has been mentioned or not but Zhitnik is a Uki, he just plays for Russia during international tournaments.

Yeah, most hockey fans are aware of this.

I have a Ukraine Ponikarovsky Jersey I ordered online. I'll post if anyone's interested in seeing it.

I have a Ukraine Ponikarovsky Jersey I ordered online. I'll post if anyone's interested in seeing it.

post it up! :handclap:

post it up! :handclap:

Give me until sometime this weekend and I'll make it happen.

Got some pics up, sorry it took this long:

Sweet jersey. But Poni would never put that on!

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2231/1091769mt9.jpg

You're right, he'd wear #26!

LOL. Yeah those 4 games he suffered through really pledges his allegiance to Ukraine.

yeah....I know.....*sigh*

slava ukrayina!!!

anyone have good links where I can keep up with hockey in the motherland?

Here's a few:

http://hockey.org.ua/
http://www.fhu.com.ua/
http://hockeyua.pp.net.ua/load
http://www.sokol.kiev.ua/

Sokol is looking good, 1st place.

http://www.hcsokol.kiev.ua/

I would hope so!

hopefully this helps elevate them to the KHL