Look out NFL! Here comes the PAAAIN!

Brock Lesnar signed with the Vikings. I just saw it on ESPN's Bottomline.

Imagine getting sacked by this hunk of beef:

http://www.jbkswrestling.com/ProductImages/BROCK%20LESNAR%20WWE%20770%20store.jpg

:lol

He missed the train on the XFL...

So what are the odds he is successful?

He will be Minnesota's best defensive player.

what position is he gonna play

He missed the train on the XFL...

You don't think he will be able to be successful in the NFL. The guy is in superior physical shape.

I look forward to seeing how this unfolds.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=vikingssignlesnar&prov=st&type=lgns

Here is a link about it...

He is a long shot to even make it out of camp. He may be an athlete, but he doesn't know jack about playing football. He is a pure project. Odds of him making the team are slim at best. He would have to play defensive line, but the Vikes have added surprising depth their this summer. For him to have absolutely any chance, he must make an impact on special teams.

That said, Brock may find the NFL isn't what he expected. He will be a 3rd string special teamer at best, playing for league minimum. His ego might get in the way of that.

Personally, I think this is a sideshow and wished some other team did it. I know the Vikes were his hometown team, but still.

You don't think he will be able to be successful in the NFL. The guy is in superior physical shape.

I look forward to seeing how this unfolds.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=vikingssignlesnar&prov=st&type=lgns

Here is a link about it...

Being in shape doesn't matter. He has to know how to play the game. He will be a rookie that is 3-6 years older than the norm competing against guys who have played football since they were teenagers. He has a steep learning curve.

THere is a whole lot more to being a good football player than just being bigger and stronger than the other guy.

Being in shape doesn't matter. He has to know how to play the game. He will be a rookie that is 3-6 years older than the norm competing against guys who have played football since they were teenagers. He has a steep learning curve.

THere is a whole lot more to being a good football player than just being bigger and stronger than the other guy.

I agree that there is more to football then just being shape but how do you know he knows "jack" about football. He has played before, albeit not since high school, but still he has time to learn his position. Now I'm not saying that he is going to make the team or anything but I just don't agree with the statements like "this is a joke". I don't what makes it a joke.

I agree that there is more to football then just being shape but how do you know he knows "jack" about football. He has played before, albeit not since high school, but still he has time to learn his position. Now I'm not saying that he is going to make the team or anything but I just don't agree with the statements like "this is a joke". I don't what makes it a joke.

Level of competition.

In highschool, you were just trying to grasp the fundamentals. This is a block. This is how you do it. Here is where you place your hands. In comparitive terms, this was grade school for football.

College is where players ramp up the process. This is high school and college rolled into one. You have position coaches who single you out 1-on-1 and breakdown everything you do.

The NFL is the Grad/Med School of football. Even college players get overwhelmed with the learning curve.

Lesner is trying to go strait from 8th grade to medical school and is 5 years older than the average rookie. That is a HUGE jump. That he is a tremendous athlete is the only reason he has even longshot odds.

BTW, I heard that Tice has no expectation of him making the team. At best, he will make the practice squad as a long-term project.

No big deal really, no worse than other experiments like signing an Olympic caliber sprinter to be a wide receiver. Brock's only getting the league minimum, so if he doesn't pan out, the Vikings' cap situation won't be affected.

Like JCD said, at worst, he becomes a sideshow if his ego gets in the way of accepting his role as a backup.

There are enough top draft picks that are taken solely based on their athleticism as opposed to their football acumen (Mike Mamula comes to mind).

JCD, i bet he makes the practice squad. What do the Vikes really have to lose. Seems like a low risk and maybe high reward kind of signing.

Because he was a wrestler (not WWE, real wrestling), he should have decent use of his hand (fighting off blockers) He should be very explosive off the line. Which is really important for D-lineman. And since he was that big in college his muscle mass isn't roid induced.

Isin't he too old for the practice squad?

Its either an age limit or an experience limit, I don't remember which one.

He'll quit when it's time to pee.

He will be Minnesota's best defensive player.
Wah-Wah

I think our defense turned a corner last year. The secondary was 20 times better than the previous year. The D line started putting it together towards the end of the year led by Kevin Williams and Chris *overrated* Hovan. Williams has a chance to be a real impact player. Not to mention the Antoine Winfield signing and 1st round pick Kenechi Udeze. I like the direction they are going.

If their D is middle of the pack, with that offense, they can be the best team in the NFC, if not all of football.

As far as the Lesner thing...can't see him making it through all the cuts.

I hope he makes the Vikings' roster cut.

That way in Madden '05 I can trade him to my Steelers franchise and replace Gildon. :lol

I say he will make the team, but he won't be a starter. He'll probably play 10 plays a game. I hope he can play special teams too.

He has the desire and the drive and the physcial attributes, we just gotta see if he can actually play.

He'll quit when it's time to pee.

Is this a steroid comment? Lesnar has always been huge. I'm pretty sure the NCAA tests for steroids...Not exactly sure...but I dont think he's gotten HUGE(R) since college....because he was pretty ****ing big then too....

Is this a steroid comment? Lesnar has always been huge. I'm pretty sure the NCAA tests for steroids...Not exactly sure...but I dont think he's gotten HUGE(R) since college....because he was pretty ****ing big then too....


You are correct, he would have been tested in NCAA. Passing a piss test shouldn't be a problem. The kid was a montster in college.

Now Kurt Angle, thats another story

You are correct, he would have been tested in NCAA. Passing a piss test shouldn't be a problem. The kid was a monster in college.

Now Kurt Angle, thats another story

I also read somewhere that his parents are also big, though not "quite" as muscular as Brock, so it kind of runs in the family. And I also read that he used to train near his parents home by running in the woods carrying a big log on his shoulders.

Angle?? What about him? He doesn't look like he's been "juiced". I read that him and brock had training programs that hardly any other wrestlers in the WWE could have done.

I heard Eugene is a big juicer.

I say he will make the team, but he won't be a starter. He'll probably play 10 plays a game. I hope he can play special teams too.

He has the desire and the drive and the physcial attributes, we just gotta see if he can actually play.

I doubt he sees 10 plays all year.

Best shot for him to get in any action is during the 1st two games when Mixon is suspended. After that, he will have an exceedingly tough time moving any of Udeze, Scott, Mixon, Hovan, Williams, Johnston, Martin, or Rogers from the DL line-up. If he displaced Lyons as the 9th linemen, he would have done well.

I doubt he sees 10 plays all year.

Best shot for him to get in any action is during the 1st two games when Mixon is suspended. After that, he will have an exceedingly tough time moving any of Udeze, Scott, Mixon, Hovan, Williams, Johnston, Martin, or Rogers from the DL line-up. If he displaced Lyons as the 9th linemen, he would have done well.

I don't doubt that he could get 10 plays a year, if not more. His football sense probably isn't great, and that's a huge part, but he definetely has the size and skill to excel as a DT. From what I heard, he's actually a pretty smart guy, and football sense isn't nearly as needed in the DT position than in the other positions. As a defensive lineman, being able to read the play isn't nearly as needed as any other position. You pretty much go ahead with your play, and attempt to either sack the QB or make a block so someone else can sack the QB. The reading of the play is needed the least on the defensive line. There it's more of reacting to whether it's a running play, where you have to go for the tailback, a throwing play, where you pressure the QB, or play action, where you have to turn your attention from the tailback to the QB.

So if his reactions are good, and he knows the plays and everything, he could very well become a pretty good defensive lineman, especially with his size.

I'm sitting here wearing my Moss jersey and I'm actually ashamed to be a Vikings fan. This guy didn't even play college ball and he's getting a shot? He better impress...

After everything that has happened with Moss over the years and last year's debacle of being undefeated and then missing the playoffs...I'm more embarassed about a guy who hasn't played football since high school getting a shot.

I don't doubt that he could get 10 plays a year, if not more. His football sense probably isn't great, and that's a huge part, but he definetely has the size and skill to excel as a DT. From what I heard, he's actually a pretty smart guy, and football sense isn't nearly as needed in the DT position than in the other positions. As a defensive lineman, being able to read the play isn't nearly as needed as any other position. You pretty much go ahead with your play, and attempt to either sack the QB or make a block so someone else can sack the QB. The reading of the play is needed the least on the defensive line. There it's more of reacting to whether it's a running play, where you have to go for the tailback, a throwing play, where you pressure the QB, or play action, where you have to turn your attention from the tailback to the QB.

So if his reactions are good, and he knows the plays and everything, he could very well become a pretty good defensive lineman, especially with his size.

We will see. I think a lot of wrestling fans will be surprised at how much he struggles in the NFL.

There is a lot more to the game than size/strength. Even at DT. He has to know how to keep OL hands off him, how to read a screen, run/pass recognition, how to avoid getting destroyed on a trap. Thing is, he will be going up against guys as big and as strong as himself. Only they have years and years more experience and coaching to their advantage. Believe it or not, as a DT he is actually undersized and he is not that significantly faster or stronger.

Another major problem is his position. He is slated to play UT. He doesn't have the size/strength to play NT. Vikes have two high-end UTs already with Kevin Williams and Chris Hovan. Hovan is already being played out of position at NT. Even if Lesner makes the team (which I doubt), he would be the 3rd string UT at best. Vikes have depth across the line for a change, so I would bet heavily against that.

Besides, coach Tice thinks he has little or no chance of making the final roster. He thinks he needs a year or two on the practice squad before that is even a possibility. I think that is a pretty telling assessment.

Brock Lesnar, who seems to have a problem avoiding confrontation lately, started a fight in his first scrimmage as a Viking today, as Minnesota took on the Kansas City Chiefs.

The rules for the game were to avoid major contact and violent tackles, yet Lesnar blatantly broke the rules by sacking the backup quarterback, Damon Huard. "That's just me, and I don't care what [the Chiefs] think about it," Lesnar said in what was a succinct summary of how most Vikings players and coaches felt. "I'm here to play football and make the team. I'm going 110 percent. I'm not going to dial it down. That's the game. We've got full pads on. If that's the tempo they want to play, maybe my tempo is a little different."

After Lesnar's play, the game got significantly more aggressive and the Vikings were tacking Chief ball carriers.

Later on in the game, Lesnar tackled Jonathan Smith, prompting Jonathan Ingram to sprint into the pile and shove Lesnar. Lesnar responded by jumping on Ingram's back. The two quickly ripped each other's helmets off and caused players from both sidelines to get involved in the scuffle.

"I've got to prove myself," a defiant Lesnar said. "If it's fighting and clawing and whatever, then that's what I'm going to do. I haven't had this much fun since ... I can't remember. I have only one speed. Sometimes I got too far past the line and had to come back. I've got to find that happy medium, and I don't know if I've got it. But at least I'm getting up there and causing some chaos."

That was like 3 days ago...

So?

Pure training camp fodder. I can't see anyone who last played football in High School making an NFL roster and sticking there.

Pure training camp fodder. I can't see anyone who last played football in High School making an NFL roster and sticking there.

There have been other experiments with NCAA wrestlers as offensive linemen. I believe one of the Patriots (projected) starting linemen didn't play NCAA football, but is excellent with his hands. Although for the most part, I can only remember experiments working with OL, and Brock is trying to be on the defensive side of the ball.

I can't see anyone who last played football in High School making an NFL roster and sticking there.
I tended tho think this way before too, but have you heard of Antonio Gates? He hadn't played football since High School and he is a starting Tight End in the league, considered to have a lot of potential. In fact, he posted some decent numbers last year.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396811