Post your lineups: [Archive]

Seiza

07-26-2004, 03:06 AM

I was going to post Zambia's lineup but I realized I didn't know any Zambian players. So I have to go with Sweden and the WC lineup I want to see:

Zetterberg Sundin Modin
Forsberg Jönsson Näslund
Sedin Sedin Alfredsson
Axelsson Påhlsson Nilson

Lidström Norström
Ragnarsson Johnsson
Öhlund Tjärnqvist

Tellqvist
Lundqvist

A. Johansson, Holmström, Ekman, Tärnström, Bäckman, Salo.

Throw in Holmström on the PP with Sundin or Modin as a d-man. Jönsson is the perfect match for Foppa and Näslund, he would take care of all the defensive work. Sundin is our captain and the A's goes to Jönsson and Lidström. I would like to have Bäckman as our 6th d-man but he isn't experienced enough...

Let's go for gold Sweden!! :banana:

banana phone

07-26-2004, 03:22 AM

me2

07-26-2004, 03:59 AM

Id but alfy on the top unit, and modin with the twins. Other than that, its a great lineup. Also, Sweden has three awesome shut down defenders, something that only Canada has. Ohlund, Norstrom, and Lidstrom.

Also, id move nilson to center, and take out pahlsson and put in holmstrom in the more physical games

Näslund Forsberg Alfredsson
Zetterberg Sundin Jönsson
Sedin Sedin Modin
Axelsson Nilson Holmström

Öhlund Norström
Lidström Ragnarsson
Tjärnqvist Johnsson

(assuming they are happy playing on these sides). Ohlund-Norstrom becomes a dedicated shutdown pairing capable of taking on powerforwards. This frees up Lidstrom to play against speedier pairings and to play a more offensive game.

Tellqvist
Lundqvist

Leo Naphta

07-26-2004, 02:13 PM

I have a try at how I think Sweden will line up.

Goal: Tellquist as starter, with Salo as his backup.

This is Tellquist’s job to lose. He has a history with the coach and probably won the status of default starter for Sweden in last years world championship. Salo needs to outperform him by a clear margin in camp in order to win back the job as starter. Lundqvist is back-up at best, and only if Salo is horrible in camp.

Defense: Lidström – Norström
Johnson – Ragnarsson
Tjärnqvist – Öhlund
Scratches: Tärnström and Bäckman

Unless Ragnarsson or Öhlund screw it up in camp, the only real competition for places will be between Tärnström and Tjärnqvist for sixth spot – Bäckman has already been told he is the eigth d-man. Tjärnqvist has a slight advantage, being a favourite of the coach. The pairings are tougher to predict, but these make most sense to me.

Forwards Näslund – Forsberg – Modin
Zetterberg – Sundin – Alfredsson
Ekman – Påhlsson – Nilson
Axelsson – Jönsson – Holmström
Scratches: Johansson, H. Sedin, D.Sedin.

Well, here is the real intrigue. The only thing I am certain of is that Forsberg will center Näslund and someone else and that Sundin will center Alfredsson and someone else, and that Modin and Zetterberg will play on the top three lines. Everything else is more or less up in the air and will probably be decided upon after camp. The coach has indicated that the two top lines will be top-heavy with talent and told to attack. Indirectly he has indicated that the third and fourth line will be strong defensively – Nylander was omitted because he wasn’t good enough for the two top lines – Sundin and Forsberg centering them – and not a ”third line type of player”, i. e. not much of a two-way center.

If they are serious about putting more or less all firepower on the two top lines, Modin should play with Forsberg and Zetterberg with Sundin. Modin could be put with Sundin, due to their common history, but that is unlikely since that would put three of the teams four best snipers on the same line. Another option is to put Zetterberg or Zetterberg and Modin on the third line in order to strengthen that line, and fill out the remaining positions on the top lines with role-players.

The third and fourth line is virtually impossible to predict at this point, but assuming that they want them to be defensively oriented, I would guess that Påhlsson (best Swedish forward in the World Championships) and Jönsson (another favourite of the coach) are frontrunners for the spots as center. Nilson and Holmström will probably play as well – Sweden have few of their kind and Holmström could be invaluable on the power play. Axelsson is a reliable penalty killer, and since the coaches will probably try to spare the top lines from such duties, could probably claim a spot. Ekman and Johansson are tough to separate, but Ekman is coming off the better season and has – at least in Sweden – a reputation for being nasty, which should count in his favour. The twins will need a strong camp, or else they will be scratched due to not being good enough two-way players.

Rabid Ranger

07-26-2004, 02:27 PM

I'll give the U.S. a shot:

Forwards:

Konowalchuk-Modano-Hull
Tkachuk-Weight-Guerin
Langenbrunner-Gomez-Amonte
Rolston-Conroy-Drury

Scratches: Blake, Halpern and Smolinski

Defense:

Leetch-Klee
Hatcher-Rafalski
Schneider-Chelios
Miller-Leopold

Goaltenders:

Esche
Conklin

Scratch: DiPietro

banana phone

07-26-2004, 02:31 PM

Leo Naphta

07-26-2004, 02:45 PM

Do you even watch the Canucks? The twins are great defensive forwards, and now that their offense has arrived, they are awesome two way forwards. They have always been good defensive forwards, i dont know where that comment came from? The only thing they may lack is footspeed, and they make up for it in creativity, positioning, and on-ice vision. I dont see anyway how they will not be on the starting lineup. Pair them with someone like Modin, and that line could be dynamite.

Well, being based in Sweden I admit that I don't watch them much.

Having said that, you should note that I made a prediction of how I thought Sweden would line up, not as to how I would want them to line up. The Sedins would be in my team, but I do think they will have a hard time convincing the coach. And he will presumably want both the third and the fourth line as shutdown lines. The twins are good, I know that, but have they actually at any point been used in a pure shutdown role?

Unless the twins are split, or being used as a pair of wings, Henrik will have to unseat Påhlsson or Jönsson as a defensive center - I am pretty certain that they won't crack the top lines. At the moment, my guess would be that he is behind them. Påhlsson was brilliant at the world championships, and the coach loves Jönsson. But, as I also indicated, it is tough to predict how the third and fourth line will look at the moment.

stockwizard*

07-26-2004, 02:48 PM

The Canucks will never win a Stanley Cup with the Sedins in the lineup, and Sweden will never win the world cup if they make the team.

I have watched them.

banana phone

07-26-2004, 03:01 PM

The Canucks will never win a Stanley Cup with the Sedins in the lineup, and Sweden will never win the world cup if they make the team.

I have watched them.

once, or twice?

stockwizard*

07-26-2004, 03:24 PM

once, or twice?
I don't know why you are supporting the Sedins so much.
They are slow, weak, not physical.
Their stats have improved the last few years, but they certainly couldn't get any worse, and their stats are far from stellar.
I suppose they are creative with the puck. That's about all.

For Sweden it is an embarrasement if they can crack their lineup. It just shows they don't have much depth.

I doubt they could make Canada's C team.

Lyons71

07-27-2004, 05:04 AM

I'll give the U.S. a shot:

Forwards:

Konowalchuk-Modano-Hull
Tkachuk-Weight-Guerin
Langenbrunner-Gomez-Amonte
Rolston-Conroy-Halpern

Scratches: Blake and Smolinski

Defense:

Leetch-Klee
Hatcher-Rafalski
Schneider-Chelios
Miller-Leopold

Goaltenders:

Esche
Conklin

Scratch: DiPietro

Not zesty... :help:

Rabid Ranger

07-27-2004, 10:00 AM

Not zesty... :help:

I take it you don't approve? Personally, I think it's a well-balanced line-up that will work hard. Works for me.

rbeeler

07-27-2004, 10:38 AM

Team Germany:

Sturm-M. Goc-Kreutzer
Hecht-Ustorf-Benda
Lewandowski-Boos-Greilinger
Morczinietz-Abstreiter-Reichel
extra: Kathan, Martinec, Retzer

Seidenberg-Luedemann
Ehrhoff-S. Goc
Leask-Schubert
extra: Renz, Kopitz

Kolzig
Mueller
Jonas

By far the best team Germany has had in years, although they will likely struggle (they are definately capable of pulling off an upset or two).

Total players drafted by NHL teams: 12
Players with NHL experience: 9

gib

07-27-2004, 01:50 PM

Team Finlandos:

Lehtinen-Koivu-Selänne
Peltonen-Jokinen-T.Ruutu
Laakosonen-N.Kapanen-Hentunen
Nieminen-Hahl-Eloranta
extras: Hagman-J.Ruutu-Pirnes

Timonen-Salo
Lydman-Pitkänen
Väänänen-(Karalahti) :lol: --> Niinimaa
extras: Berg, Numminen

Lehtonen
Kiprusoff
extra: Toskala

MissionHockey

07-27-2004, 02:12 PM

gib

07-27-2004, 02:20 PM

You'd seriously take Lehtonen over Kiprusoff right now?

Yes, I would. Lehtonen has always been super star, Kirpusoff has never been not more than good goalie. Of course Kiprusoff can prove me wrong in World Cup, but honestly I believe that Lehtonen will take number one spot for himself.

In the Doghouse

07-27-2004, 02:24 PM

You'd seriously take Lehtonen over Kiprusoff right now?

Lehtonen could fit better in Summanen's style 'cause he played in Jokerit when Summanen was coaching the team. But still I'd take Kipru over Lehtonen at this moment 'cause I really feel that Kipru deserves a chance to show his skills in Lion-uniform.

Shoalzie

07-27-2004, 02:47 PM

Team USA
Tkachuk-Modano-Guerin
Drury-Weight-Hull
Rolston-Gomez-Amonte
Konowalchuk-Conroy-Langenbrunner

Leetch-Hatcher
Schneider-Rafalski
Miller-Chelios

Esche
DiPietro

Scratches: Blake, Conklin, Halpern, Klee, Leopold, Smolinski

- - - - -

Team Canada
Thornton-Sakic-Iginla
Gagne-Lemieux-Heatley
Smyth-Richards-St. Louis
Marleau-Draper-Doan

Niedermayer-Pronger
Jovanovski-Foote
Regehr-Redden

Brodeur
Luongo

Scratches: Belfour, Brewer, Hannan, Lecavalier, Maltby, Morrow

- - - - -

Team Sweden
Naslund-Forsberg-Alfredsson
Zetterberg-Sundin-Modin
D. Sedin-H. Sedin-Jonsson
Axelsson-Nilson-Holmstrom

Lidstrom-Ohlund
Johnsson-Norstrom
Tarnstrom-Ragnarsson

Tellqvist
Salo

Scratches: Backman, Ekman, Johansson, Lundqvist, Pahlsson, Tjarnqvist

Lyons71

07-27-2004, 08:27 PM

I take it you don't approve? Personally, I think it's a well-balanced line-up that will work hard. Works for me.

I don't dissapprove (double negative) of your selections at all, I'm just sad that the US doesn't have any super players. It was a reflection on the team, not your lineup...

Rabid Ranger

07-27-2004, 08:50 PM

I don't dissapprove (double negative) of your selections at all, I'm just sad that the US doesn't have any super players. It was a reflection on the team, not your lineup...

To each their own I guess. I think the U.S. team will feature several "super" players, but that's me. I can't believe so many people are down on a guy like Mike Modano, who before this past season was widely considered one of the top five forwards in the game.

4 nipple finn

07-27-2004, 10:01 PM

You'd seriously take Lehtonen over Kiprusoff right now?

It would be a tough choice, Kiprusoff had a awesome season this year but has not yet proved that he can consistantly play at that level, and Calgary did have good defense also. Lehtonen is a awesome franchise goalie but has only played 4 games at the NHL level, I might take Lehtonen over Kipper.

mikkoz

07-28-2004, 01:46 PM

T.Ruutu-Koivu-Selänne
Peltonen-Jokinen-Lehtinen
Nieminen-Pirnes-Eloranta(if Eloranta is fit enough, if not >Hagman)
J.Ruutu-N.Kapanen-Hentunen
5th: Hagman-Hahl-Laakosonen

Lydman-Numminen
Timonen-Salo
Väänänen-Niinimaa
xtra defence: Berg, Pitkänen

Kiprusoff
Lehtonen
Toskala

The most important thing is to get 1st and 2nd lines scoring, plus powerplay is the key.

FearTheFlyers

07-28-2004, 03:26 PM

I doubt they could make Canada's C team.

Obviously, they are Swedish after all.

Kovy274Hart

08-02-2004, 11:51 AM

I guess nobody likes Team Czech Republic. Anyway, here's the lineup I came up with. Imo, they have a really good shot to win this tournament.

Straka-Lang-Jagr
Elias-Prospal-Hejduk
Havlat-Reichel-Dvorak
Rucinsky-Vasicek-Dopita

Reserve F's:

Vlasak-Cajanek-Vyborny

Hamrlik-Kubina
Zidlicky-Malik
F. Kaberle-T. Kaberle

Reserve D:

Slegr-Spacek

Cechmanek, Vokoun and Prusek

Any thoughts?

wilka91*

08-02-2004, 01:56 PM

another useless topic ...

Vic Rattlehead

08-02-2004, 02:10 PM

another useless topic ...
Aren't you a happy camper?

Art Vandelay

08-03-2004, 09:59 AM

Ajacied

08-03-2004, 01:04 PM

I don't dissapprove (double negative) of your selections at all, I'm just sad that the US doesn't have any super players. It was a reflection on the team, not your lineup...

Since when is Mike Modano no longer a superstar?

Jason MacIsaac

08-03-2004, 01:23 PM

Since when is Mike Modano no longer a superstar?
His on ice performence isn't super star quality on either side of the puck.

Ajacied

08-03-2004, 01:24 PM

His on ice performence isn't super star quality on either side of the puck.

:lol:

Well he ain't no Devil, so this was expected..

Jason MacIsaac

08-03-2004, 01:32 PM

:lol:

Well he ain't no Devil, so this was expected..
And that means what....you are sticking up for a player that plain out sucked last year. He isn't a superstar, maybe his name still is but his play licks.

Ajacied

08-03-2004, 01:37 PM

And that means what....you are sticking up for a player that plain out sucked last year. He isn't a superstar, maybe his name still is but his play licks.

Ah thats right, your age fits the name of the site. Modano experiences one bad season due to off-ice problems (not due to age). His first bad season in 15 year career, and suddenly he's no longer a superstar. Ok.. Gotcha..

Yet you kept claiming how Stevens was still the league's top defensive stalwart last year and continuesly defended Elias for just having an off-year prior to this season. But sure.. I gotcha.. Modano is trash..

Jason MacIsaac

08-03-2004, 01:41 PM

Ajacied

08-03-2004, 01:58 PM

stop making up ****.

*cough* pot calling the kettle black *cough*

Jason MacIsaac

08-03-2004, 02:04 PM

*cough* pot calling the kettle black *cough*
Right back at ya....

Rabid Ranger

08-03-2004, 02:42 PM

And that means what....you are sticking up for a player that plain out sucked last year. He isn't a superstar, maybe his name still is but his play licks.

No one's denying Modano had a horrible year, but it's kind of juvenile to suggest that, as a result, he's been expelled from the ranks of the game's elite players.

Jason MacIsaac

08-03-2004, 02:54 PM

No one's denying Modano had a horrible year, but it's kind of juvenile to suggest as a result, he's been expelled from the ranks of the game's elite players.
I am not expelling him, I just pulled him off my list of superstars untill he proves otherwise. The odd thing about it is he seemed to lose his hockey sence.....weither his head wasn't in the game or not...thats up to him to decide but some of the bonehead plays he made made me wana puke.

DaaaaB's

08-03-2004, 05:08 PM

Another crack at "Tre Kronor"

M.Näslund P.Forsberg M.Nilson
H.Zetterberg M.Sundin D.Alfredsson
D.Sedin H.Sedin F.Modin
P.J.Axelsson S.Påhlson T.Holmström

N.Lidström M.Norström
K.Johnson M.Öhlund
D.Tärnström M.Ragnarsson

M.Tellqvist
H.Lundqvist
T.Salo
I can't believe Henrik Sedin is on this team ahead Michael Nylander. Nylander is better at both ends of the ice. Sweden probably didn't want to seperate the sisters. :joker:

DaaaaB's

08-03-2004, 05:17 PM

Hope the lineup looks like this

St. Louis-Sakic-Iginla
Heatley-Thornton-Lemieux
Richards-Lecavlier-Marleau
Smyth/Maltby-Draper-Doan

Niedemeyer-Foote
Pronger-Jovo
Redden-Regher/Hannan

Brodeur
Luongo

That's a kick ass line up. :win:

:gman:

Leo Naphta

08-04-2004, 02:46 PM

I can't believe Henrik Sedin is on this team ahead Michael Nylander. Nylander is better at both ends of the ice. Sweden probably didn't want to seperate the sisters. :joker:

Nylander is pretty much a one-way player and not much liked by the coach. That is why he is not on the roster. Sweden will likely put the best players on the two top lines. That means that the likes of Ekman, Axelsson and Nilsson will be wingers on the third and fourth line. Unlike the two top lines, which will be expected to spend most of their time in the offensive zone, the third and fourth line will be expected to spend a significant amount of time in the defensive zone. Hence, Sweden needs two-way players to center those lines. Since Nylander is a defensive liability, and since he is not good enough to center the top lines, he was left out altogether.

Henrik Sedin is not considered as one-dimensional as Nylander, and could in any way be winged.

mach777

08-05-2004, 03:55 AM

Henrik Sedin is not considered as one-dimensional as Nylander, and could in any way be winged.

The Sedins are young and the tournament would be a good experience for them even if they won't play much. I'd call it 'building for the future'.

Mach

MissionHockey

08-05-2004, 04:12 AM

Ah thats right, your age fits the name of the site. Modano experiences one bad season due to off-ice problems (not due to age). His first bad season in 15 year career, and suddenly he's no longer a superstar. Ok.. Gotcha..

Yet you kept claiming how Stevens was still the league's top defensive stalwart last year and continuesly defended Elias for just having an off-year prior to this season. But sure.. I gotcha.. Modano is trash..
Modano is still among the NHLs elite IMO, but if he has another 60 point or less season I don't think he deserves to that title anymore.

Stevens though was still NJ's number 1 defenseman last year until his injury and had been playing just as well as years past. He was better than any d-man on Dallas' roster.

Also, Elias is 28, Modano is 33 (or 34 I'm not sure). Anyway Elias is just entering his prime while Modano's play will start going downward soon. Patrik also pulled out 57 points in his off year to Modano's 44. He wasn't even good defensively, he was a -21. I'm not saying Elias is a better player than Modano, but those are some pretty big differences.

Chuckalinsky

08-05-2004, 04:51 PM

What about team Russia? They are looking pretty stacked besides between the pipes. No love for the Big Brown Bear?

Rabid Ranger

08-05-2004, 06:15 PM

Modano is still among the NHLs elite IMO, but if he has another 60 point or less season I don't think he deserves to that title anymore.

Stevens though was still NJ's number 1 defenseman last year until his injury and had been playing just as well as years past. He was better than any d-man on Dallas' roster.

Also, Elias is 28, Modano is 33 (or 34 I'm not sure). Anyway Elias is just entering his prime while Modano's play will start going downward soon. Patrik also pulled out 57 points in his off year to Modano's 44. He wasn't even good defensively, he was a -21. I'm not saying Elias is a better player than Modano, but those are some pretty big differences.

What are you trying to say? It seems like you're falling prey to the idea that one bad season has sunk the good ship Mike Modano. His physical talents are still there, and his off-ice horror story is a thing of the past. If Joe Sakic can still "chug along" at his "old age", surely Mike Modano can.

Rabid Ranger

08-05-2004, 06:16 PM

What about team Russia? They are looking pretty stacked besides between the pipes. No love for the Big Brown Bear?

Correction: They WERE pretty stacked.

Ajacied

08-06-2004, 03:22 AM

What are you trying to say? It seems like you're falling prey to the idea that one bad season has sunk the good ship Mike Modano. His physical talents are still there, and his off-ice horror story is a thing of the past. If Joe Sakic can still "chug along" at his "old age", surely Mike Modano can.

Honestly, I don't think that the majority of this board looks beyond last year. It's quite typical, hence you now see Draper among the league's top centers and see a guy like Kiprussof leading the goalie rankings. Modano is an average forward who's utterly poor defensively..

banana phone

08-06-2004, 04:21 AM

Gagne - Sakic- Iginla
Heatley-Thornton-Marleau
St.Louis-Richards-Lecavalier
Morrow/Smyth-Draper-Doan

Nieds-Foote
Jovo-Pronger
those 4 are basically set
redden-regehr/brewer

Rabid Ranger

08-06-2004, 12:08 PM

Honestly, I don't think that the majority of this board looks beyond last year. It's quite typical, hence you now see Draper among the league's top centers and see a guy like Kiprussof leading the goalie rankings. Modano is an average forward who's utterly poor defensively..

I totally agree. This has to be the most bandwagon jumping prone forum I've ever seen.

s7ark

08-06-2004, 12:56 PM

Nieds-Foote
Jovo-Pronger
those 4 are basically set
redden-regehr/brewer

I don't think those 4 are set at all... There are many possibilities for the d-men lineups

thome_26

08-07-2004, 04:10 AM

Ya, there is a big three - and thats Pronger/Nieds/Foote (in that order). Jovo isn't good enough defensively to fit into that group.

SedinFan

08-07-2004, 06:07 AM

Sedin Sedin Modin

A line of Sedin-Sedin-Modin will destroy opponents offensively. Maybe then people will realize how good the Sedins actually are. EXTREMELY underrated offensively.

They made Wade Brookbank look like an NHLer, and turned Trent Klatt into a 2 million dollar forward.

Kovy274Hart

08-08-2004, 01:53 PM

Modano is still among the NHLs elite IMO, but if he has another 60 point or less season I don't think he deserves to that title anymore.

Stevens though was still NJ's number 1 defenseman last year until his injury and had been playing just as well as years past. He was better than any d-man on Dallas' roster.

Also, Elias is 28, Modano is 33 (or 34 I'm not sure). Anyway Elias is just entering his prime while Modano's play will start going downward soon. Patrik also pulled out 57 points in his off year to Modano's 44. He wasn't even good defensively, he was a -21. I'm not saying Elias is a better player than Modano, but those are some pretty big differences.

What happened to Modano was the same thing that happened to Leetch when he was named captain. Some players just can't handle the pressure that comes with it. Leetch never had the personality to be one. I'm not sure about Modano. I wouldn't write him off at all. He's still an elite center and can bounceback.

Pat_Habs

08-08-2004, 02:41 PM

Gagne-Sakic-Iginla
Heatley-Thornton-Lemieux
Richards-Lecavalier-St.Louis
Smyth-Marleau-Doan

Pronger-Foote
Niedermayer-Redden
Jovanovski-Brewer

Brodeur

I can't think that we insert Draper and Maltby in team when we have 2 offensive guys like Marleau and Doan that they can play well in defence and hit some players of the other teams.

So, that's my lineup.

Colorado Avalanche

08-08-2004, 05:00 PM

For Canada, the only line that I think is a guarantee to START the tournament is the Gagne-Sakic-Iginla line.

Will Sweden put out the Naslund-Forsberg-Alfredsson line :eek:

I need to agree :bow:
AWESOME haha :) :handclap: :bow:

Colorado Avalanche

08-08-2004, 05:05 PM

Yes, I would. Lehtonen has always been super star, Kirpusoff has never been not more than good goalie. Of course Kiprusoff can prove me wrong in World Cup, but honestly I believe that Lehtonen will take number one spot for himself.

Kiprusoff was awesome goaltender in Sm-liiga when he played in TPS and last year he showed his skills all the people around world..

LEhtonen will not be number one goaltender world cup i can bet 100€ for that..

Colorado Avalanche

08-08-2004, 05:08 PM

GO SWEDEN GO FINLAND GO!!!
:)
Forsberg,Naslund,Alfreddson! i can't wait!! :shakehead

Then Fan line will kick everybodys @sses :)

But i would love to see!
Heatley-Sakic-Iginla

God Bless Canada

08-09-2004, 12:26 PM

My Team Canada:

Lemieux-Sakic-St. Louis - A highly-skilled top unit featuring two all-time greats and the reigning Hart Trophy winner. Two forwards - Sakic and St. Louis - are darn good defensively.
Marleau-Thornton-Iginla - The power line. All over six feet, 200 pounds, strong and highly skilled. A defenceman's nightmare.
Richards-Lecavalier-Heatley - A mis-mashed line of sorts. Combine Lecavalier and Richards familiarity with Heatley's booming shot.
Smyth-Draper-Doan - An outstanding checking line. Draper's the reiging Selke winner. Smyth and Doan are gritty and defensively aware, and were amongst the stop scorers in the league at their positions.
Extras: Gagne, Morrow, Maltby

Defence:
Foote-Niedermayer - A no-brainer. The world's best defenceman since the 2003 all-star break with one of the best defensive defencemen of his era.
Pronger-Jovanovski - The strong, steady, skilled Pronger with the stylish Jovanovski. Two big defencemen, too.
Brewer-Redden - A smart pairing. Brewer's at his best when it counts. Redden's the steadiest defenceman on the team, and can score, too.
Extras: Regher, Hannan - Two of our top young defensive defencemen.

Goalies:
Brodeur-Luongo-Belfour

I know the temptation will be to recycle units from past international competitions. (Grind Line from 2003 Worlds, Sakic line from 2002 Olys). However, those strategies often don't work.

Canada will win because we are the only country without a major weakness. The Swedes have no goaltending. The Americans have no defence. The Russians are in disarray. The Czechs can't match our depth or goaltending.

Jason MacIsaac

08-09-2004, 12:37 PM

I totally agree. This has to be the most bandwagon jumping prone forum I've ever seen.
You only as good as your last game....or in this case.....you re only as goo as your last season.

Rabid Ranger

08-09-2004, 01:11 PM

You only as good as your last game....or in this case.....you re only as goo as your last season.

Let's see how Modano does this year before writing him off.

Ajacied

08-09-2004, 01:34 PM

You only as good as your last game....or in this case.....you re only as goo as your last season.

Most pathetic statement I've ever read on HF.. And there've been a few so go figure.

*Takes mental picture for reminder when in need of a good laugh*

oil slick

08-09-2004, 02:03 PM

I don't think those 4 are set at all... There are many possibilities for the d-men lineups

Maybe Foote, Niedermayer, and Pronger are set as top three, but I certainly don't think Jovo is set in the top four. Personally I'd take Redden before Jovonovski.

Raimo Sillanpää

08-10-2004, 08:36 AM

with Kapanen out, (Hagman in) i think Summanen will try putting all of his apples in one basket

Peltonen-Koivu-Lehtinen
Ruutu-Jokinen-Selänne

with two scoring lines coming on constantly, the other 2 lines would be designed against the specific opponent to hold them down

if that doesn't work (Peltonen not good enough for NHL pace)
then Lehtinen-Koivu-Selänne
Peltonen-Jokinen-Hagman
x-Ruutu-x with Ruutu providing a third scoring threat

He'll try Peltonen-Jokinen at some point, as they worked well at the world championships
another 3rd line could be Ruutu-N Kapanen-Hentunen

Jason MacIsaac

08-10-2004, 09:08 AM

Most pathetic statement I've ever read on HF.. And there've been a few so go figure.

*Takes mental picture for reminder when in need of a good laugh*
I'm sure your "Dallas has three #1 defensmen, Hatcher is 1.A, Zubov is 1.B, and Boucher is 1.C" is far worse. Look no further then your posts when the word pathetic comes to your mind. Every pro athlete will tell you they are only as good as their last game. You are from the Netherlands.....honestly how many NHL games could you possibly see.....I doubt 20.

Alb Tkachuk

08-10-2004, 04:42 PM

Finland:

Lehtinen - Koivu - Selänne
Peltonen - Jokinen - Hagman
Laaksonen - T.Ruutu - Hentunen
J.Ruutu - Kapanen - Nieminen
Scratches: Hahl, Pirnes, Eloranta

Timonen - Väänänen
Niinima - Pitkänen
Numminen - Salo
Scratches: Lydman, Berg

Kiprusoff
Toskala
Scratch: Lehtonen

Germany:

Sturm - Ustorf - Hecht
Benda - M.Goc - Kreutzer
Lewandowski - Abstreiter - Martinec
Kathan - Reichel - Morczinietz
Scratches: Greilinger, Boos, Retzer

Lüdemann - Seidenberg
Ehrhoff - Schubert
Kopitz - S.Goc
Scratches: Renz, Leask

Kölzig
Müller
Scratch: Jonas

Russia:

Kovalchuk - Fedorov - Kovalev
Ovechkin - Yashin - Samsonov
Kozlov - Datsyuk - Afinogenov
Kvasha - Chubarov - Zubrus
Scratches: Bure, Sushinski, Afanasenkov

Gonchar - Zhitnik
Tverdovsky - Kasparaitis
Markov - Khavanov

Scratches: Volchenkov, Vishnevski