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Takkie 06-17-2004, 03:20 PM the Nl East leading Florida Marlins
Brad Penny(6-4,2.62 ERA)
Carl Pavano (7-2, 2.81 ERA)
D. Willis (6-3 3.33 ERA)
Josh Beckett (4- 48 4.06 ERA) (number dont reflect how good of a pitcher he is)
A.J Burnett (pitched a no-hitter)
can you say the next braves? :yo:
Hossa 06-17-2004, 03:23 PM the Nl East leading Florida Marlins
Brad Penny(6-4,2.62 ERA)
Carl Pavano (7-2, 2.81 ERA)
D. Willis (6-3 3.33 ERA)
Josh Beckett (4- 48 4.06 ERA) (number dont reflect how good of a pitcher he is)
A.J Burnett (pitched a no-hitter)
can you say the next braves? :yo:
Just me, but I'd take Prior, Zambrano, Wood and Clement over those guys (can't count Burnett as a positive considering his injury and struggles since returning).
monster_bertuzzi 06-17-2004, 03:44 PM Oakland has by faaaaaaaar the best young staff.
Teemu 06-17-2004, 04:00 PM The Cubs and Oakland are far and away the two best young pitching staffs.
PEli* 06-17-2004, 04:41 PM I'd rank them like this...
1A. Chicago Cubs
1B. Oakland A's
2. Florida Marlins
Oakland and Chicago could be flipped. Either way, you're getting a staff you'd have a tough time complaining about.
V for Voodoo 06-17-2004, 04:48 PM Just me, but I'd take Prior, Zambrano, Wood and Clement over those guys (can't count Burnett as a positive considering his injury and struggles since returning).
You can't judge a pitcher two or three games after returning from tommy john.
Burnett has, IMO, the best stuff of any Marlins pitcher when he is healthy.
I'd take the Marlins staff over any other.
in the hall 06-17-2004, 05:17 PM Burnett is still a wait and see, he can be Benson or he can be Wood post TJ
the only pitcher on the Marlins that gets me giddy is Beckett, Willis is good though overrated, Beckett does not compete with Prior.. Zito has lost velocity and hasn't been the same since his cy young year, I would take Hudson over him now at this point even Mulder
Prior
Hudson
Mulder
Wood
Zito
Beckett*
Zambrano*
thats how i rank em, i left a * there for the two guys that can rise up that list, i think Beckett eventually will be up there between Prior-Hudson range
i like the cubs staff most because of potential, oak's staff gets nod for current best staff however
Fish on The Sand 06-17-2004, 06:13 PM While certainly nowhere close to the A's, Cubs or Fish in terms of depth, the Indians have a top 3 which is almost as good as anyones right now. Sabathia, Lee and Westbrook. Traber looked awesome last year, but like Burnett, needed Tommy John. Won't be until next year until we see him in action again. Also, I'm not trying to say the Indians are next in line after the Cubs, A's and Fish. I'm sure there may be a couple other teams who are up there too.
The Sports Gorilla 06-17-2004, 06:53 PM I wouldn't call the A's a 'young' staff. They are just getting to the age where Oakland is going to have to trade a couple of them away because they can't sign them.
My vote is for the Cubs, but the fish are a close second.
Fish on The Sand 06-17-2004, 10:17 PM I wouldn't call the A's a 'young' staff. They are just getting to the age where Oakland is going to have to trade a couple of them away because they can't sign them.
My vote is for the Cubs, but the fish are a close second.
All 3 are signed to multi-year deals though.
Tuggy 06-17-2004, 11:05 PM I'd take the A's pitching staff first anyday, but I am a little biased ;)
But I really like the Cub's staff, not to say that the Marlins don't have great pitching because they do. Pavano is very underrated and he is starting to pitch to his potential.
Tuggy 06-17-2004, 11:06 PM Burnett is still a wait and see, he can be Benson or he can be Wood post TJ
the only pitcher on the Marlins that gets me giddy is Beckett, Willis is good though overrated, Beckett does not compete with Prior.. Zito has lost velocity and hasn't been the same since his cy young year, I would take Hudson over him now at this point even Mulder
Prior
Hudson
Mulder
Wood
Zito
Beckett*
Zambrano*
thats how i rank em, i left a * there for the two guys that can rise up that list, i think Beckett eventually will be up there between Prior-Hudson range
i like the cubs staff most because of potential, oak's staff gets nod for current best staff however
Yeah Zito has definately lost something, I am thinking that by the end of the season Harden will take his #3 spot in the rotation.
Leopold Stotch 06-17-2004, 11:29 PM Add Billy Koch to the Marlins. Though, he's not exactly a real "young-gun".
While the Angels don't have a young pitching staff, they have a very young up-and-coming pitcher, Francisco Rodriguez. This guy really amazed me in 2002, and has continued to amaze me ever since. I really hope he pans out.
Tuggy 06-17-2004, 11:46 PM While the Angels don't have a young pitching staff, they have a very young up-and-coming pitcher, Francisco Rodriguez. This guy really amazed me in 2002, and has continued to amaze me ever since. I really hope he pans out.
Yeah he is great coming out of the pen, which is the biggest problem of the A's.
THEIR BULLPEN LICKS!!!
in the hall 06-18-2004, 02:53 AM Add Billy Koch to the Marlins. Though, he's not exactly a real "young-gun".
While the Angels don't have a young pitching staff, they have a very young up-and-coming pitcher, Francisco Rodriguez. This guy really amazed me in 2002, and has continued to amaze me ever since. I really hope he pans out.
Billy Koch sucks.
he can't even hit 90 anymore
best young pitching staff.
Oh it has to be the Detr........ bah i cant even try and say it with a straight face, let alone sell it.
TVanek26* 06-18-2004, 05:24 AM They're not the best but I really like the Chi Sox pitching....
Garland and Buehrle are both under 24 and both will eventually be aces.
Loaiza is their ace right now but he's 30.
Fire Millen 06-18-2004, 06:33 AM best young pitching staff.
Oh it has to be the Detr........ bah i cant even try and say it with a straight face, let alone sell it.
Maybe in a couple of year X8oD. Sleeth and Verlander both have #1 potential (both last two #1 draft picks). Bonderman is still very young, i think he is old enough to buy beer now. Will Ledezma is have a great year at AA. Heck he pitched decent last year for the Tigers as a Rule 5 pick up. And Joel Zumaya is another good looking left.
V for Voodoo 06-18-2004, 11:56 PM Maybe in a couple of year X8oD. Sleeth and Verlander both have #1 potential (both last two #1 draft picks). Bonderman is still very young, i think he is old enough to buy beer now. Will Ledezma is have a great year at AA. Heck he pitched decent last year for the Tigers as a Rule 5 pick up. And Joel Zumaya is another good looking left.
:bow: Nate Robertson, saviour of my fantasy team.
Anthony 06-19-2004, 12:38 AM florida
clement is nothing special
z is inconsistent
prior and wood are studs however
ill say that the cubs have the best staff in the majors though...
RisingSinker 06-20-2004, 12:03 PM I would say Chicago.
RisingSinker 06-20-2004, 12:12 PM Billy Koch sucks.
he can't even hit 90 anymore
Has he gotten that bad? Update me please.
canucksfan 06-20-2004, 02:00 PM Oakland has the best starters but their bullpen is really weak.
PantherboyHTR 06-20-2004, 06:51 PM The Padres will be pretty respectable soon. Imagine their staff if they kept Perez :yo:
The Flash 06-21-2004, 07:05 AM You can't judge a pitcher two or three games after returning from tommy john.
Burnett has, IMO, the best stuff of any Marlins pitcher when he is healthy.
I'd take the Marlins staff over any other.
How can you tell us that we can't judge a pitcher b/c of his Tommy John, yet you can praise him?
Fire Millen 06-21-2004, 07:30 AM :bow: Nate Robertson, saviour of my fantasy team.
Nate has been a real suprise in Detroit. Not many thought he would earn the #5 starter after spring training. Now he has been their best starter.
Just think how good the Marlins staff would be if they still had Robertson.
Tuggy 06-21-2004, 09:37 AM Oakland has the best starters but their bullpen is really weak.
Weak is one way to put it, they have blown a bunch of games over the past week or so. :banghead:
Tuggy 06-21-2004, 09:39 AM What happened to Chad Bradford?
I heard Billy Beane was interested in Byun-Hyun Kim before he got injured a while ago....
Bradford is having a very off year. He was almost unhittable last year but it seems everyone has figured him out this year.
As for Kim... :eek: that's a scary thought
FearTheFlyers 06-21-2004, 01:51 PM Padres have a good young staff.
Peavy
Lawrence
Eaton
Valdez
etc
Teemu 06-21-2004, 03:31 PM Add Billy Koch to the Marlins. Though, he's not exactly a real "young-gun".
While the Angels don't have a young pitching staff, they have a very young up-and-coming pitcher, Francisco Rodriguez. This guy really amazed me in 2002, and has continued to amaze me ever since. I really hope he pans out.
LOL!!
Billy Koch is the worst closer in MLB, arguably the worst in the last 10 years, and Im absolutely amazed anyone took a chance on this guy. He has two pitches. One is a foot outside, and the other is right down the pipe at 92 mph.
How you marlins fans liking him? I heard he's already blown one game for you.
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