EC Day #3: Denmark v Italy / Sweden v Bulgaria (GDT)

Day three is ready to go.

The first shock of the tournament yesterday did little to continue the trend we've been seeing during this EC and the whole season: defensive organisation is becoming more important then offensive flair. A pretty worrying evolution IMO.

Today sees the start of the Tournament for another big favorite to win it all: Italy. I think Group C is the most open group of them all though, all three other teams have a realistic chance to make it through on paper, wich means we'll see another set of tight football, especially in the Sweden Bulgaria match as none of the teams will want to lose that first game. Denmark is probably the slight favorite to be the second team getting through, but again Sweden and Bulgaria are pretty good too and not to be underestimated!



Denmark v Italy

GROUP C
Venue: Dom Afonso Henriques, Guimarães
Date/time: Mon, 14 June, 1800 CET
Referee: Manuel Enrique Mejuto (Spain)
Team news: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/euro_2004/3787507.stm

Sweden v Bulgaria

GROUP C
Venue: Jose Alvalade, Lisbon
Date/time: Mon, 14 June, 2045 CET
Referee: Mike Riley (England)
Team news: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/euro_2004/3787511.stm

******* Predictions ********

I'm still at 3 points after yet another dismal outing yesterday:
Day 1:
Portugal v Greece: 2-0 (Figo)
Spain v Russia: 2-1 (Raul Gonzalez Blanco)
Day 2:
Switzerland v Croatia: 2-1 (Frei)
France v England: 1-1 (Owen)

Today, day 3:
Denmark v Italy: 0-2 (Totti)
Sweden v Bulgaria: 1-1 (Berbatov)


Enjoy the games and the discussion and keep it clean!

denmark 0-1 italy (totti)

sweden 2-0 bulgaria (larsson)

3 points for predicting french Victory. makes total of 6 points.Today,

day 3:
Denmark v Italy: 0-2 (Totti)
Sweden v Bulgaria: 2-1 (Larsson)

Day 1

Portugal 2 : 1 Greece (C. Ronaldo)
Spain 2 : 0 Russia (F. Morientes)
That's a total of 6 points (one for naming Ronaldo, one for predicting a Spanish win)

Day 2

France 2 : 1 England (T. Henry)
Switzerland 1 : 0 Croatia (A. Frei)
That's a total of 6 points (one for predicting a French win, one for the 2-1 score).

Total Points so far: 12

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Day 3

Denmark 1 : 2 Italy (A. Del Piero)
Sweden 2 : 1 Bulgaria (H. Larsson)

9 points from day one..

3 points from game two

Total of 12 points.

Denmark 0 - 2 Italy (Totti)

Sweden 3 - 1 Bulgary (Ibrahimovic)

DAY ONE
Spain 1 - 0 Russia (Vicente) 3+3 points
Portugal 3 - 1 Greece (Rui Costa) 0 points

DAY TWO
Croatia vs. Switzerland 1-1 (Frei) 3 points
France vs. England 1-1 (Owen) 0 points

DAY THREE
Denmark vs. Italy 0-1 (Vieri)
Sweden vs. Bulgaira 2-0 (Ibrahimovic)

total points: 9 points

I've got 6 points so far (3 for the Spanish win, and 3 for the French win).

For today:

Denmark vs. Italy 1:2 (Totti)
Sweden vs. Bulgaria 1:0 (Larsson)

DAY 1: 3 points (Spain's victory)
DAY 2: 3 points (the draw between Switzerland and Croatia) + 3 points (France's victory)

TOTAL: 9 points

Denmark 0 - 2 Italy (Vieri)
Sweden 1 - 1 Bulgaria (Larsson)

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Spain 2-0 Russia (Raul) - 3 points
Portugal 3-1 Greece (Nuno Gomes) - 0 points
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France 1 - 1 England (Scholes) - 0 points
Switserland 0 - 1 Croatia (Pršo) - 0 points
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Denmark 1 - 2 Italy (Jon-Dahl)
Sweden 1 - 1 Bulgaria (Larsson)

Today..all Norwegians cheer for Italy. Forza Forza Forza

Denmark - Italy 2-1 (John Dahl) - God, let me be wrong
Sweden - Bulgaria 2-0 (Larsson)

6 points yesterday for the two outcomes.
Make a total of 9 points for the tournament.

Today :
Italy 1-0 Denmark (Vieri)
Sweden 2-0 Bulgaria (Larsson)

A dismal 6 points so far...

Today:

Denmark - Italy 1-0 (Tomasson) (Going conventional hasn't gotten me anywhere, so what the heck)
Sweden-Bulgaria 2-1 (Ibrahimovic)

As an avid Italian soccer fan, I'm very frustrated that all our games will be aired while I'm at work. Italy's stifiling defensive game should cause problems for the Danes but I believe they will be up for the challenge. This is the same Denmark team that upsetted France in 2002 and beat the Germans in Euro 92 so they are a team that is usually perceived as theunderdog yet come out on top in that role.
It'll be a tough opener for the Italians, but they will not go in overconfident especially after the big upset with Greece stunning the Portugese. Italy will be using one of the best attacking trios in the history of soccer with Vieri Totti and DelPiero so hopefully all things will click today.

Italy 2
Denmark 1

Italy will be using one of the best attacking trios in the history of soccer with Vieri Totti and DelPiero so hopefully all things will click today.

Hopefully, if DelPiero sucks as usual in the last 6 months and as ever with the national team, he will be substituted by Cassano as soon as possible!

As for that trio being one of the best ever i would say 3 things.
-Totti is a great player, you're right.
-Vieri: until one year ago maybe.
-DelPiero: maybe one year in his whole life!

Day 1

Portugal - Greece: 3-0 (Rui Costa) - 0 points

Spain - Russia: 3-1 (Raul) - 3 points

Day 2

Switzerland - Croatia: 0-1 (Prso) - 0 points

France - England: 1-2 (Owen) - 0 points

Point Total so far : 3 :banghead:

Day 3

Denmark - Italy: 0-1 (Totti)

Sweden - Bulgaria: 1-0 (Ljungberg)

Ooops I kinda missed the start of the prediction game, that I suggested. Hey whatever.

Here goes nothing:D

Denmark vs. Italy: 1-2 (Vieri)

Sweden- Bulgaria: 0-2 (Berbatov)

I am also going to join late, so here goes:

Italy 1 : 0 Denmark (Totti)
Sweden 3 : 0 Bulgaria (Ljunberg)

Italy-Denmark 2-1

Italy goals: Alessandro Del piero, Christian Vieri
Denmark goals:J-D Tomasson

Denmark 0 - Italy 2 (Totti)

Sweden 1 - Bulgaria 0 (Larsson)

anyone have a link for a live feed for this game??

denmark wins 2-1 my prediction

Day 3:

Denmark - Italy 0-1 (Vieri)

<----Sweden - Bulgaria 1-1 (Larsson)

Italy goals: Alessandro Del piero, Christian Vieri
Denmark goals:J-D Tomasson
You can only predict one scorer per game, otherwise it does not count.

anyone have a link for a live feed for this game??

I was told by a friend you could find it on ESPN.com., i'll go check it out myself

Go Del piero!

anyone have a link for a live feed for this game??

Perhaps on the official site, press link "DEN 17:00 ITA".


http://www.euro2004.com/index.html

You can only predict one scorer per game, otherwise it does not count.

In that case

Italy 2 - Denmark 1

Goals-Alessandro Del piero

Italy - Denmark 2:1 (Vieri)
Sweden - Bulgaria 2:1 (Larsson)

Hopefully the games will be more entertaining than the other games.
Go Italy!!

anyone have a link for a live feed for this game??

The game is live on TSN

The game is live on TSN

Not everyone is near a tv at this time of day...

Anyway, I'm a little upset because I can't get the audio feed to work off the euro2004 website.

:banghead:

Not everyone is near a tv at this time of day...

Anyway, I'm a little upset because I can't get the audio feed to work off the euro2004 website.

:banghead:


try this link, ive been using it

Decent game so far.. Denmark being the best one so far, supringly I must add. Italy plays its usual boring defensive minded game, slowly building up an attack that leads nowhere. They did get the best chance, but the Danish goalkeeper came up big..

try this link, ive been using it

link?

It seems like Denmark is getting tired. In this heat, it might pay off for Italy to have saved some energy in the 1st half. If the Danes can't score soon, they'll have bad cards for the rest of the game. But they have shown very good football so far.

Italy is starting to take the game to Denmark, the midfield is taking over.

I think Del Piero should be off though, replacing him with Cassano is the way to go Trap!

*edit* Thank you Trap, should've said it earlier :)

Italy was lucky to escape this game with a point, IMHO, Denmark looked like the better side....

Italy is starting to take the game to Denmark, the midfield is taking over.

I think Del Piero should be off though, replacing him with Cassano is the way to go Trap!

*edit* Thank you Trap, should've said it earlier :)

Actually, I believe, Cassano should be replacing Camoranesi and not Del piero, and Trap, needs to take out Zanetti and Perrota in the midfield, Italy will never generate any offense with those 2, they can come in as defensive subs late in the game, but not to start

starting 11 should be

Buffon
Panucci-Nesta-Canavarro-Zambrotta
Gattuso-Pirlo
Cassano-Totti-Del piero
Vieri

Del Piero was indeed not very visible. IMO, the biggest problem of the Italian team is that there is a huge gap between the defensive 6 and the offensive 4, which are mostly natural forwards. There is noone in central midfield who can control the pace of the game, and distribute the balls wisely. Pirlo could be that one. Is there anyone who could replace Del Piero on the left flank? I get the feeling that he does not like that role, he'd rather prefer Totti's spot (which he won't get).

Del Piero was indeed not very visible. IMO, the biggest problem of the Italian team is that there is a huge gap between the defensive 6 and the offensive 4, which are mostly natural forwards. There is noone in central midfield who can control the pace of the game, and distribute the balls wisely. Pirlo could be that one. Is there anyone who could replace Del Piero on the left flank? I get the feeling that he does not like that role, he'd rather prefer Totti's spot (which he won't get).

Well, I think that Del piero, in this game, was better than Totti and Vieri...your right about the problem with the defense and midfield though, Trap should change the formation from a 4-2-3-1 to a 4-4-2, that way, players won't play out of position.

Buffon

Panucci-Nesta-Canavarro-Zambrotta
Gattuso-Totti-Del piero-Pirlo
Cassano-Vieri

Thoughts?

I had Italy-Denmark: 2-1 so still only three points for me so far.

Sweden-Bulgaria: 2-1 (kallstrom)

Denmark surprised me and deserved the victory.

Totti deserved a red card, horrible, horrible tackle. And afterwards he complains to the refs about the yellow card. Sickening.

Totti deserved a red card, horrible, horrible tackle. And afterwards he complains to the refs about the yellow card. Sickening.
Can't say it's surprising... :banghead:

Awesome Goal by Larsson. Now 2:0 for Sweden.

WTF ??
3:0 Larsson

2 Goals in 1 minute :bow:

Bulgaria looks good going forward but really awful when pushed backwards. Their defending is really poor. And Larsson is so marvelously deadly.

Well, Sweden has come out of the gates flying. Larsson had a great game, as did Zlatan. What else can you say? If it weren't for Bulgaria's keeper this could have been 6 or 7-0. IMO Sweden has showed the greatest team play so far in the tournament.

Wow, 5:0. Sweden absolutely destroyed Bulgaria.
A very entertaining game and Sweden's forwards were absolutely marvelous. :handclap:
Fantastic Duo, hopefully they can keep it up on friday versus Italy.

5 - 0. :banana:

DU GAMLA DU FRIA.....

Great game :) Zlatan was deadly with his passes, Henrik Larsson was great as always.
I also think left back Erik Edman deserves a lot of praise.

Celebration time!

DU GAMLA DU FRIA.....

Celebration time!

I'm way ahead of you. ;)

That was an entertaing game. Ljungberg, Larsson and Zlatan excelled. The score is a bit misrepresented though, Bulgaria wasn't that bad. Finally a game with a lot of chances.

Wonderful!!! 5-0! Woohooo! :banana:

Great effort by Sweden! The second goal (Larsson's first) was a real beauty! Time to celebrate! Skål! :cheers: :highclap:

Sweden's attack is scary.. Might not be as impressive as the Italians, the Dutch or the French, but they capitalize on each and every chance they get. There are no ego's and their attack is complimented perfectly by a deep set of role players. Solid team that should not be taken lightly.. They were my underdog pick before all of this started so they make a good case as of why tonight..

6 points for me.. :banana:

18 points after 3 days..

Wonderful game!
5-0 Wow, embaressment!
Why did Larsson even think about retiring? Beautiful diving header!

Best game by team Sweden I've ever seen - and actually, none of the previous ones come even close to this! They seem to have an excellent new generation of players coming up. And that 2:0 goal by Larsson might just be the goal of the tournament when all is said and done. Stuff of legends I'd say. :bow:

I also liked Denmark today and I just have to give Bulgaria the credit for playing attacking football.

Best day of the tournament so far!

Nice game, but brutal for the Bulgarians who actually dominated most of the first half. Two beautiful goals by Larsson. And Mellberg was great positionally.

That makes +6 points for me (Sweden win, Larsson scoring) for a total of 12 so far.

Most impressive offensive performance so far (duh :p: ). While other teams look better on paper, no offensive unit has performed as well on the field so far...

I am at 12 now as well, thanks to the Swedish win and Zlatan penalty.

:banana: <----- ibrahimovic
:banana: <----- larsson
:banana: <----- ljungberg

what a nice game. i haven't enjoyed a game that much for years. both team played entertaining soccer and sweden was gorgeous.

it may sound a bit freaky, but maybe sweden has the best offense at this tournament. ibrahimovic and larsson are both world class. at least there are only short to the netherlands. totti and italy doesn't impress me much. totti is a world class diver like figo, but that doesn't count. :)

bulgaria deserved a few goals i think,but they had no luck at all. i hope they can either beat denmark or italy. they deserve it, if they can bring this effort every game.

it may sound a bit freaky, but maybe sweden has the best offense at this tournament. ibrahimovic and larsson are both world class. at least there are only short to the netherlands. totti and italy doesn't impress me much. totti is a world class diver like figo, but that doesn't count. :).

Ibrahimovic is far from Totti's or Vieri's level, and I am a huge Ajax fan..

They've created a heck of a lot more chances than the French did yesterday, but the French were playing against a tight, strong English defense. But yeah Henry and Trezeguet played below par and the Swedish attack did not..

Ibrahimovic is far from Totti's or Vieri's level, and I am a huge Ajax fan..


totti and vieri tend to fade a way a lot. that's my problem with them. totti's problem is also his mouth and his diving.

i think larsson is way underrated in europe because he played only for celtic, not in italy or so. he may be still the best attacker although his prime was a few years ago.


They've created a heck of a lot more chances than the French did yesterday, but the French were playing against a tight, strong English defense. But yeah Henry and Trezeguet played below par and the Swedish attack did not..

henry is great, but i'm not sold on trezequet. i think he's kinda overrated.

Great performance by Sweden tonight even if the score is way too harsh for the Bulgarian. But this is what you get when you defend like juniors against a dynamic and incisive pair of strikers.
The game against Italy will tell more about Sweden real attacking potential. But I don't think Italy will have much fun. Considering the way the danes played this afternoon, the Denmark-Sweden derby already looks like a massive game!

Great performance by Sweden tonight even if the score is way too harsh for the Bulgarian. But this is what you get when you defend like juniors against a dynamic and incisive pair of strikers.


sometimes it was just great play. but bulgaria's defense wasn't good, that's true.


The game against Italy will tell more about Sweden real attacking potential. But I don't think Italy will have much fun.


italy needs to improve a lot, otherwise sweden will kill them like bulgaria. italy was horrible. i think they will improve, but if it is enought to beat sweden? we'll see.

sometimes it was just great play. but bulgaria's defense wasn't good, that's true.

Oh yes, credit to Sweden who developped marvelous counter attacks.


italy needs to improve a lot, otherwise sweden will kill them like bulgaria. italy was horrible. i think they will improve, but if it is enought to beat sweden? we'll see.

That, I do not know. I still think that Italy will provide many tactical problem to the Swedish team but I suspect that the tempo of the game will be crucial. A slow tempo will be better for Italy, a fast one would be great for Sweden.
It looks like a great match up. And Italy has all to lose in that game.

That, I do not know. I still think that Italy will provide many tactical problem to the Swedish team but I suspect that the tempo of the game will be crucial. A slow tempo will be better for Italy, a fast one would be great for Sweden.
It looks like a great match up. And Italy has all to lose in that game.

it's funny, because sweden could be happy with a tie, so they won't make the game. italy wants it slow, so they won't do it either. but someone has to. so either sweden will have to do it, which i doubt, or italy because they need the win.

very interesting!

How have Zlatan and Larsson performed against italian defenses in champions league? :handclap:
The game is an evening one so the heat shouldn't be too bad. And nothing better that the Dragao stadium in Porto for the fixture!!!

I am very proud of my Sweden today. Played entertaining football and all!

Im very proud of Zlatan Ibrahimovic. Beautiful game, like the announcer said, he really deserved that goal!

Quick question for our game.
Shouldn't Larsson count as 6 points by himself?
As he scored twice, that's the way we operated this season with the european cups?
If so then I have 9 points for yesterday and 18 total.
If not I have 6 points for yesterday and 15 points total.

Assuming naming Larsson gets only 3 points and not 6, that's +6 points today (3 for Larsson, 3 for Sweden winning)

18 points so far...

BTW, I think that the Germany-Holland game tomorrow will be good. Just a gut feeling, but I think we might see some real good football.

Superb game by Sweden, all players deserve credit but it was great to see Ljungberg perform well in the national team again. The most important thing in the game was Lukic injury. He was horrible, luckily he got injured and Nilsson did great on the right back. Chippen is a greater offensive force than Nilsson on the wing.

Goal number two was just freaking great, it makes me wanna.... :banana:

Great game by the swedes! Both Denmark and Sweden performed very good yesterday, and that warms a scandinavian heart :)

The only thing I reacted negative upon was Ljungbergs dive. No need for that nonsense when you're up by three.

Henke Larsson was just :yo:

Quick question for our game.
Shouldn't Larsson count as 6 points by himself?
As he scored twice, that's the way we operated this season with the european cups?
If so then I have 9 points for yesterday and 18 total.
If not I have 6 points for yesterday and 15 points total.

Afaik you only get points for predicting the correct goalscorer, and I can't remember anything from the CL prediction game where someone would get points for each goal.

It would make the point scoring system too unbalanced anyways, if a guy scoring a couple of goals gets you as many points as predicting a completely correct score, IMO.

It would make the point scoring system too unbalanced anyways, if a guy scoring a couple of goals gets you as many points as predicting a completely correct score, IMO.
Agreed (though I would have gotten 6 too).

The only thing I reacted negative upon was Ljungbergs dive. No need for that nonsense when you're up by three.


nah, it wasn't a dive. he was touched although he didn't need to fall that way. but i wonder if it was outside and therefore a free-kick.

he was touched although he didn't need to fall that way.

Wheter he is touched or not is not what decides if it was a dive. Its the fall, and as you said, he dove :)

I think the foul was outside, but he fell inside. Fortunately this had nothing to say for the distribution of points. But the result was flattering, Sweden wasn't that much better than Bulgaria. 2-1 or 3-1 would have given a better view of the game.

Bulgaria is fully capable of beating Italy and Denmark, this gourp will be fun!

Totti deserved a red card, horrible, horrible tackle. And afterwards he complains to the refs about the yellow card. Sickening.

I agree, absolutely. That one deserved definitely a red card. I think he knows that and went complaining just to try to minimize what he has done :dunno:

That was an entertaing game. Ljungberg, Larsson and Zlatan excelled.
:yo:

:)

Well, I think that Del piero, in this game, was better than Totti and Vieri..
Do me a favor... DelPiero was just non-existent, as usual. Cassano in his first 5 minutes touched more balls than Delpiero in 62' despite playing poorly himself.
Totti played poorly but was easily the best of the three (aside from his foolish foul that deserved the red card, of course).




Buffon
Panucci-Nesta-Canavarro-Zambrotta
Gattuso-Totti-Del piero-Pirlo
Cassano-Vieri

Thoughts?

What is that? Totti and DelPiero as central midfielder?? :lol:

Del Piero was indeed not very visible... Is there anyone who could replace Del Piero on the left flank? I get the feeling that he does not like that role, he'd rather prefer Totti's spot (which he won't get).
With DelPiero the problem is not where he plays, but that he is athletically a phantom..that's why his spot should be on the bench, or better in front of a TV.
I hope he will prove me wrong in the next game if (i still don't want to believe it)
he will start again, but i don't think so...



..there is a huge gap between the defensive 6 and the offensive 4, which are mostly natural forwards. There is noone in central midfield who can control the pace of the game, and distribute the balls wisely. Pirlo could be that one.
Rightly said.
The biggest problem of this team is that the concept of 'ball possession' is completely lacking (obviously since Trap is the coach..).

Rightly said.
The biggest problem of this team is that the concept of 'ball possession' is completely lacking (obviously since Trap is the coach..).

You mean once regaining posession after chasing the ball all over the pitch for five minutes against a side with less than half the talent of yours, hitting the long ball towards Vieri-who-is-too-slow-these-days-to-get-to-it-without-making-a-foul is not a good ball posession tactic?? :eek:

Do me a favor... DelPiero was just non-existent, as usual. Cassano in his first 5 minutes touched more balls than Delpiero in 62' despite playing poorly himself.
Totti played poorly but was easily the best of the three (aside from his foolish foul that deserved the red card, of course).


I agree with 417 TO MTL. Del Piero was better than both Totti and Vieri. To much hair gel and styling up front for Italy it seems...

And Ljungberg...When you`re up 3-0 there`s no reason to dive :shakehead

And Ljungberg...When you`re up 3-0 there`s no reason to dive :shakehead

C'mon, that wasn't a dive. I agree Ljungberg often falls quite easily, but not that time. Most of the diving so far in the tournament took place in the Italy - Denmark game, world class divers those Italians..

C'mon, that wasn't a dive. I agree Ljungberg often falls quite easily, but not that time. Most of the diving so far in the tournament took place in the Italy - Denmark game, world class divers those Italians..

Disagree, Croatia so far has the #1 spot on the diving ranks in the Tournament, followed closely by Portugal with Italy on a third place, somewhat dissapoinintg after their pre tournament hype :)

To much hair gel and styling up front for Italy it seems...

:handclap:

What a bunch of Prima Donna's.

Disagree, Croatia so far has the #1 spot on the diving ranks in the Tournament, followed closely by Portugal with Italy on a third place, somewhat dissapoinintg after their pre tournament hype :)

:D
Maybe you're right I actually think I fell asleep during Croatia - Switzerland. Must have been one of the most boring games in the history of the european champs? With Sweden - Turkey following closely from 2000..

:D
Maybe you're right I actually think I fell asleep during Croatia - Switzerland. Must have been one of the most boring games in the history of the european champs? With Sweden - Turkey following closely from 2000..

At least Belgium-Sweden wasn't boring ;)

Afaik you only get points for predicting the correct goalscorer, and I can't remember anything from the CL prediction game where someone would get points for each goal.

It would make the point scoring system too unbalanced anyways, if a guy scoring a couple of goals gets you as many points as predicting a completely correct score, IMO.
I agree but I think I remember us using this point system in the CL...
Am I dreaming?
ANyway, let's keep it at 3 points for goalscorer regardless of the number of goals he's scored.

I agree but I think I remember us using this point system in the CL...
Am I dreaming?
ANyway, let's keep it at 3 points for goalscorer regardless of the number of goals he's scored.

Yes you are dreaming.

No seriously, we agreed to use this system somewhere in an earlier thread, otherwise people would only select strikers as they're the only ones likely to score twice or thrice

Yes you are dreaming.

No seriously, we agreed to use this system somewhere in an earlier thread, otherwise people would only select strikers as they're the only ones likely to score twice or thrice
OK, I must be damn tired I guess... ;)

http://www.tsn.ca/tsn/news_story.asp?id=87712


LISBON (AP) - The shoes didn't fit, the socks were too rough and the heat was too much.

Italy rolled out the excuses Tuesday following a 0-0 tie with Denmark in 34 C weather in its European Championship opener a day earlier.

Star playmaker Francesco Totti left the field midway through the half to change his spikes on the sideline.

``It was like having your feet on boiling sand,'' he said. ``Nothing like that has ever happened to me before.''

Totti said Nike had given him a new pair of cleats for Euro 2004 that featured a different colour scheme from the pair he wore all season for AS Roma. He said he had no choice but to revert to the old pair.

``It was very painful,'' he said. ``I have two big blisters, one on each foot.''

Defender Christian Panucci, Totti's teammate at Roma, said his socks were a problem.

``I had blisters at the end of the game on my heels,'' he said. ``The thread that these socks were made with is too rough.''


That has to be THE lamest excuse of all time. We played poorly because the socks were too rough and our shoes sucked. Right. :lol

http://www.tsn.ca/tsn/news_story.asp?id=87712


That has to be THE lamest excuse of all time. We played poorly because the socks were too rough and our shoes sucked. Right. :lol

:lol:

that's 100% totti. he's as stupid as someone can be.