Det & Ana Trade Proposal.

To Anaheim:
D Jiri Fischer
C Jiri Hudler
1st rounder 05

To Detroit:
RW Corey Perry
1st rounder 04 (9th)

A fair proposal...Not sure if Murray will want to trade a potential top 6 forward with size(which Murray is constantly concerned about) for a potential top 6 forward who is small. I don't think Murray wants a long term lineup with Chistov and Hudler, since he prefers big north american players.

Fischer and a 2005 first that will be 25th-30th for the 9th round pick this year seems like it favors Anaheim.

do you like Perry that much Cup4Wings? Or want to get into the top 10 of this years draft?

Id do it if im detroit. Perry has some size and we could go out and draft Thelen possibly with that pick to take up for the lack of defense. If not then we can definitly get another big dman. Fischer is great, but for 9th overall pick id say peace out ONLY if Thelen is still on board during the draft

You can tell when a trade proposal is relatively fair when fans of both teams show some interest. I'd love to see Fischer in a Ducks uniform. And you won't get him without giving up something of value.

I also understand Wings' fans interest in the possibility of nabbing Thelen since he plays at Michigan State. I like Perry, though, and the Ducks need size, rather than another small, skilled player. This one's a close call, but Fischer would provide a much-needed boost to the Ducks' blueline.

could Hudler be replaced with something different?

could Hudler be replaced with something different?

Yea I am also not a big fan of hudler. I don't know much on the wings prospects but with 3 goalies in your top 10 according to HF rankings maybe one of them along with kronwall instead of hudler. We will probably need a goalie to start for cinci next year.

I saw Hudler play a decent amount of times this year in the AHL and ewwwwwwwww....anytime there was threat of contact he was far far away....he can stickhandle and skate and that's about it...we already have one of those thanks.

one of them along with kronwall instead of hudler.

that's too much to replace hudler with
value wise IMO, Kronwall and Hudler are rather close
keeping in mind that Kronwall is probably an NHL defensemen now
I would guess they wouldn't want to deal kronwall because they are already dealing Fischer

Howard on his own might be interesting, as he has a few more years of college...or Koopmans
Meech and Seluyanov are ideas for a blueliner

If I was Murray, I'd make this deal. However, I'm not sure I'd do it from a wings prospective though.

Hudler is a better prospect than Perry IMO, and Fischer and a 1st round pick in what promises to be a much deeper draft year for the 9th overall this year isn't a bad idea. Afterall, without Hull, Shanahan, Thomas, Yzerman (all possibilities), plus I highly doubt Perry will be ready to make the jump any time soon, there's no guarantee that 1st rounder is going to be a 25-30th overall pick.

How about this proposal:

ANA: Prospal & Sykora for
DET: Shanahan & 2nd round?

How about this proposal:

ANA: Prospal & Sykora for
DET: Shanahan & 2nd round?

Detroit won't pick up Shanny's option, which is for about $5-6 million. Maybe if he hits the UFA market, BM gives him a good offer, and he'd come here(he'd fit our needs fairly well).

I certainly wouldn't mind Shanahan coming here, but he's getting older and his productivity has fallen off somewhat. At the right price, he might be interesting. That trade proposal, though, is (1) unnecessary (because of Shanny's contract status) and (2) brutal from the Ducks' point of view.

How about this proposal:

ANA: Prospal & Sykora for
DET: Shanahan & 2nd round?
trust me we don't want shanny, if people here were disappointed in Vinny's production they'd be alot more disappointed in Shanny's

As for the trade Proposal its fair, but I don't think Jiri Hudler has the heart to amount to anything special.

To Anaheim:
D Jiri Fischer
C Jiri Hudler
1st rounder 05

To Detroit:
RW Corey Perry
1st rounder 04 (9th)

Fischer is a b****. Having said that, I would do it as a Ducks fan. I would definitely trade a Prospect for an NHL player.

I'd do it maybe for this:

Fisher + low end prospect like Barnes for
Perry and 4rth rounder or Havelid

I think Perry's value is on the beholder, Fischers potential may be tapped out... but I think he can be dominant with his size and somewhat raw potential, plus hes NHL proven.

Maybe they would do it straight up.

Id make that trade...

Wanna swap whitney for prospal? I believe they make about the same but prospal's contract is longer.

As for the trade Proposal its fair, but I don't think Jiri Hudler has the heart to amount to anything special.

As a Wings fan, i feel the same about Hudler. I wasn't impressed with any of the games i saw him in. He was more worried about being hit instead of playing hockey. Which i find weird because for a little guy he is suppose to be strong for his size. He looked lost. I think he needs another year or two in the AHL getting used to North American play. He also didn't play that good in the World Championships.


edit: As for dealing Fischer, i hope the Wings dont give up on him. He is the only young D-man Detroit has with any size. All the rest are barely 6 ft.

A fair proposal...Not sure if Murray will want to trade a potential top 6 forward with size(which Murray is constantly concerned about) for a potential top 6 forward who is small. I don't think Murray wants a long term lineup with Chistov and Hudler, since he prefers big north american players.

Fischer and a 2005 first that will be 25th-30th for the 9th round pick this year seems like it favors Anaheim.

do you like Perry that much Cup4Wings? Or want to get into the top 10 of this years draft?

I think i have seen a similar Fischer+Hudler+1st round 05 for <top prospect>+1st round 04 on just about every team's website. I think Cup4Wings just likes to throw trades out there. Not sure if I am big on this one though.

fischer can be a sold top 4 dman for sure, its just that hes on detriot behind allstars Hatcher, Lidstrom, Sneider, and Chelios... he has solid instincts both offensively and defensively. Hes not a great fighter, but hes been nasty and territorial this past season.

I dont really think Detroit will trade him unless they really like a certain player or prospect. Most teams now have at least 2 big dmen (except for the ducks...) and with the d getting way too old, they need to keep developing guys like Fischer. Besides, he hasnt been horrible so why would they trade him? The guy is 6'5" 225 with good wheels and a balanced player!

I think his problem is that he really hasnt had a chance to be the main guy and that he take some pretty dumb penalties that make him seem like a real moron (sort of like Salei).

Wanna swap whitney for prospal? I believe they make about the same but prospal's contract is longer.

Prospal's contract is long I believe, with him having 4 years left, but he only has $10 million left for over those four years.

whitney has 2 years left at 3.25 & 3.50 million. I hope Holland finds a way to get rid of him.