Kevin Forbes
05-23-2004, 07:50 AM
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article.php?sid=6954&mode=threaded&order=0
Looks at the 1999 NHL Entry Draft, 5 years later.
They're keeping a record of who had the most sucessful draft based on games played per player over on Atlanta's board. The Ducks are the current leaders.
http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=79369
That Leopold trade still looks terrible. And three over-aged Europeans!
S.S. Giggy
05-23-2004, 05:57 PM
That Leopold trade still looks terrible. And three over-aged Europeans!
Yeah, what will we do for Giguere?
Kevin Forbes
05-23-2004, 06:25 PM
as mentioned in the other thread you started
the Leopold trade ended up getting us Carney
meanwhile the Giguere trade was a completely seperate transaction
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf
05-23-2004, 09:43 PM
Jordan Leopold may have a bright future, but without him, our franchise would never have had the success it had last year. Keith Carney was not only our best defenseman last year, he's been our best defenseman by far, and he's still one of the better defenders in the league. Samuel Pahlsson was our team MVP this year.
We may have gaven up Patrick Traverse with Leopold to get those two, but I think that's a bonus rather than a minus.
Hockey Duckie
05-24-2004, 12:57 AM
I agree with Ducksflytogether... acquiring Carney was more beneficial for the Ducks as he showed he was the #1 defenseman for the Ducks' blueline. We have Ozo and Skoula now as well for puck moving defensemen, like mentioned in the 1999 reports. I like Leopold alot, but it's Regehr that teams are noticing more and afraid of.
I'm happy with Carney and the outcome which gave us last year's great run. But I'd like to cry about picking Smirnov over Frolov. :lol:
Kevin Forbes
05-24-2004, 01:01 AM
Oh I agree with what you are saying about Carney over Leopold. I'd make that deal any day of the week, based on how much Carney has done for the team. Just the original deal was pretty bad and the fact that Leopold would of meant we probably could of kept hold of either Cullen and Trnka or Sauer for a different deal to help the team elsewhere.
Either way, in my mind, we ended up winning the Leopold trade, after everything was said and done. We also ended up winning the Ozolinsh trade and the Skoula trade.
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf
05-24-2004, 01:15 AM
While we did win the Leopold trade(so far), we could've kept him, and gotten Carney. If we would've traded our own second rounder, Mark Popovic, to Phoenix for Carney, we definetely could've been better. So really, to determine if it was indeed a good move, we'll have to see who turns out better, Popovic or Leopold.
Kevin Forbes
05-24-2004, 01:21 AM
really it's hard to say
to quote the tag line from the Butterfly Effect (really under-rated movie, Ashton Kutcher isn't that bad of an actor..honest!)
"change one thing, change everything"
it's possible Phoenix wouldn't of bitten for that pick, or maybe things would play out differently
it's possible Phoenix wouldn't of bitten for that pick, or maybe things would play out differently
Popovic was the 35th pick and the one traded for Carney was the 41st. I doubt Phoenix would have had a problem taking the better of the two.
With that said, the Ducks have had a SCF appearence since all those trades. Seems like it all worked out pretty well to me.