[GER] official DEL off-season thread

talk about the off-season happenings in the DEL, i.e. new players, new coaches and whatever you want to talk about.

jamie storr for example signed with mannheim. yesterday christian laflamme signed with kassel.

what happened in other DEL-cities? tell us about your team. :)

Andreas Morczinietz,member of the WC-roster will play the next season for the Hannover Scorpions!!! :teach:

Hopefully the season starts soon ;)

When I see the players who will play next season here in Germany the leauge will improve much. And normally the best players from North America sign in August. I think DEL is really number 2 in the world next year, at least number 3.

I hope the leauge and the refs will allow checking more because there also some hard players coming over. And If they then also change some rules we would have the "Mini-NHL" here in Germany :yo:

No chance DEL could become No.2 in the world!

Russia is a mile better! Also Sweden and some other leagues. Condider the DEL amongst the top 5, but WAY behind for example, Russia!

Zorin

The Cologne Sharks signed the 16 year old Krefeld prospect Philip Gogulla, who was topscorer in the DNL (35goals and 46 assists in 37games) last year to a 3 year contract.
Gogulla played for Germany in the U18 B World Championships and registered 7 points in 5 games as second youngest player on the German team.

Name: GOGULLA Philip
Position: F
Height: 188 / 6'2''
Weight 76 / 168
DOB 31.07.1987


Hope he gets his real chance the the DEL next year.

Ondruschka(1987) and Robert Dietrich(1986) will play for Nürnberg, but they are also allowed to play in the second league.
Sven Gerbig(23years old, has signed a contract with Iserlohn.

On my homepage ( www.marcel-bohl.de.vu ) I have the rosters of all german teams in the 1st and 2nd League! You must click on "Eishockey 2004-05" and then on "Kader DEL-Teams" (1st league) or "Kader 2. Bundesliga" (2nd league)! The rosters will be updated every day... ;)

Sean Pronger(260 NHL-games and 31 years old)will play for the champion Frankfurt Lions!!!!!!!!!
Also confirmed:

Brian White(AHL, 2 NHL games, 28)----->Iserlohn Roosters(DEL)
Alan Letang (AHL, 14 NHL games, 28)----->Hamburg Freezers(DEL)
Marc Dillmann(Frankfurt Lions,DEL)------->EC Peiting(Oberliga)
Axel Hackert(Mannheim,DEL)---------->Hannover Scorpions(DEL)
Sebastian Buchwieser(ERC Hassfurt,Oberliga)-------->EHC Eislöwen Leipzig(Oberliga)

Pascal Trepanier(Tampa Bay Lightning/NHL) ----->Nürnberg(DEL)!!!!

Pascal Trepanier(Tampa Bay Lightning/NHL) ----->Nürnberg(DEL)!!!!

wow, nice signing. and somehow the DEL will become more and more interesting as the players are getting better. they times are over where the DEL teams signed every canadien lumberjack on skates they could find. :)

I just heard that Andy Roach (Mannheim) has an NHL deal ready to go if there is an NHL season next year, thanks to his great play in the Czech Republic. I don't know how reliable this one is, but it wouldn't be a surprise.

Heck, I e-mailed Ted Leonsis months ago and told him to get Roach as a mentor for the Caps' young d-men. I'm sure he listened. Really. :joker:

I just heard that Andy Roach (Mannheim) has an NHL deal ready to go if there is an NHL season next year, thanks to his great play in the Czech Republic. I don't know how reliable this one is, but it wouldn't be a surprise.


during the WC it was said that pittburgh would be interested in him. i wonder who else could it be.

during the WC it was said that pittburgh would be interested in him. i wonder who else could it be.

If I remember correctly, Minnesota was the other one. Not sure, though.

If I remember correctly, Minnesota was the other one. Not sure, though.

yep, that was the other team mentioned. but maybe also others jumped on the bandwagon.

As far as i know the Blues talked with Roach.

christian kuenast is looking forward to establish himself as the starter with his new team hannover. he has to face ilpo kauhanen who is ok, but nothing near great, so maybe we will have another german starter in the DEL which would be great. martin morczinietz will be the #3 goalie in hannover. he's the brother of andreas. he seems to be an interesting goalie as well. young and talented. maybe someone who can establish in the DEL on the distance.

is it really THAT difficult, to get the clue which team is the one interested in roach? who again was coach of team USA...? ;)

is it really THAT difficult, to get the clue which team is the one interested in roach? who again was coach of team USA...? ;)

ehm...who was the coach of team USA? i don't have a clue. :innocent:

ehm...who was the coach of team USA? i don't have a clue. :innocent: peter laviolette. ;) so, now..?!

I read something somewhere that Tyler Arnason wants to play for Kolner Haie.

That is if there is a lockout.

Wow...
Darren Haydar (Milwaukee Admirals/AHL)--------->Nürnberg(DEL)
Nicolai Goc(Mannheim/DNL/17.06.1986 )--------->Freiburg(Bundesliga)


Here are the stats of Haydar:

Darren Haydar Forward
Born Oct 22 1979 -- Milton, ONT
Height 5.09 -- Weight 160 -- Shoots R
Selected by Nashville Predators round 9 #248 overall 1999 NHL Entry Draft


Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
1998-99 U. of New Hampshire NCAA 41 31 30 61 34
1999-00 U. of New Hampshire NCAA 38 22 19 41 42
2000-01 U. of New Hampshire NCAA 39 18 23 41 38
2001-02 U. of New Hampshire NCAA 40 31 45 76 28
2002-03 Milwaukee Admirals AHL 75 29 46 75 36 6 1 4 5 2
2002-03 Nashville Predators NHL 2 0 0 0 0 -- -- -- -- --
2003-04 Milwaukee Admirals AHL 79 22 37 59 35
2003-04p Milwaukee Admirals AHL 22 11 15 26 10
NHL Totals 2 0 0 0 0

He was named the rookie of the season 2003 in the AHL

haydar was considered a great talent by lots of people. but his smallish body kept him away from the NHL. maybe also other reasons, don't know for sure.
he should do very well in the DEL.

and little goc to freiburg is a good thing. he needs ice-time and in freiburg he should play a lot. is it with a "foerderlizenz"?

Youri Ziffzer and Christoph Gawlik (both Mannheim Junior squad) signed with the Polarbears Berlin....

Gawlik looks like an excellent prospect for 2005 and Ziffzer might have a shot in the later rounds 2004.

Youri Ziffzer and Christoph Gawlik (both Mannheim Junior squad) signed with the Polarbears Berlin....

Gawlik looks like an excellent prospect for 2005 and Ziffzer might have a shot in the later rounds 2004.

:eek:

did they gave a reason? i think it's a good move, because berlin does give young players a chance and because of belonging to the anschuetz-group, berlin is excellent for players who wants attention from the NHL.
so los angeles is now frontrunner to draft gawlik in 05, eh? :)

:eek:

did they gave a reason? i think it's a good move, because berlin does give young players a chance and because of belonging to the anschuetz-group, berlin is excellent for players who wants attention from the NHL.
so los angeles is now frontrunner to draft gawlik in 05, eh? :)

No reason yet.
Chances are one point, developement is another point.

Play more minutes at a lower level or play less minutes at a higher level.
Some will choose option 1, some will choose option 2.

If both Mannheim and Berlin are in full strength, then Ziffzer and Gawlik won´t see DEL-Action, so i think it´s a wash.
Maybe (just maybe) Berlin was a little bit angry, cause Mannheim signed Kelly and Tripp - both out of Los Angeles...

Andy Roach is supposed to leave Mannheim.
He has a one-year contract offer from St.Louis.

No reason yet.
Chances are one point, developement is another point.

Play more minutes at a lower level or play less minutes at a higher level.
Some will choose option 1, some will choose option 2.


i'd try to change from season to season. you need both.


If both Mannheim and Berlin are in full strength, then Ziffzer and Gawlik won´t see DEL-Action, so i think it´s a wash.


i think gawlik could see DEL-action, because berlin always used some youngsters. but ziffzer should be junior-bound.
who is the #1 goalie in berlin? jonas is 2nd, right?

Andy Roach is supposed to leave Mannheim.
He has a one-year contract offer from St.Louis.

should be a one-way contract and therefore he'll stay in mannheim, thanks to greedy players and stupid owners. :D

should be a one-way contract and therefore he'll stay in mannheim, thanks to greedy players and stupid owners. :D

Manager Kuhl does not expect to have Roach back in Mannheim abd he´s in the market for a replacement, so it´s obvious, that he´ll leave.

i'd try to change from season to season. you need both.
i think gawlik could see DEL-action, because berlin always used some youngsters. but ziffzer should be junior-bound.
who is the #1 goalie in berlin? jonas is 2nd, right?

Jonas might be the #1 goalie.

I wanted to point out, that Gawlik won´t play DEL, when both teams are at full strength. It´s true, that former Adler-Coach Stewart gave reduced icetime to the youngsters, but with new Coach De Raaf it´s a wash.

De Raaf coached the Jungadler, Page played youngsters.
I do expect De Raaf to play youngsters, when injuries come around - same for Page.

The only thing that worries me:
The Jungadler "cried" when De Raaf left for the pro team and now Schütz, Goc, Ziffzer and Gawlik leave, although the former Jungadler Coach is coaching the big team and often stated, that he´s very interested in bringing in new german talents - that´s more than curious.

Here is an article about Berlin (in German):


Platz für junge Spieler

Die Eisbären planen maximal 10 Ausländerlizenzen bis zum Saisonstart im September zu vergeben. Für die kommende Saison gilt für Ausländerlizenzen die Regel 11+1, d.h. jedem Club stehen 12 Ausländerlizenzen zur Verfügung, aber nur 11 Spieler ohne deutschen Pass dürfen gleichzeitig auf dem Spielberichtsbogen stehen. „Wir brauchen Platz, um unseren jungen Spielern eine Chance zu geben“, begründet Lee die Selbstbeschränkung bei der Vergabe der Lizenzen. Diese Zurückhaltung gilt auch, falls es in der NHL zu einem Lock-Out der Spieler kommen sollte. „Wir werden keine Ausländerlizenz für einen NHL-Star opfern, sagte der Manager. „Wir wollen in der nächsten Saison jung, schnell und besser sein“, gab Pagé als sportliche Leitlinie aus, „letztes Jahr waren wir besser aber etwas langsamer.“

Jonas Nummer 1 im Tor

Im Gegensatz zur abgelaufenen Spielzeit gehen die Eisbären mit einer klaren Nummer 1 in die Saison. Pierre Pagé wird Nationaltorhüter Oliver Jonas das Vertrauen schenken. Abhängig davon, in welcher Liga der Kooperations-Partner Eisbären Juniors e.V in der nächsten Saison spielen wird, will Lee die zweite Torhüterposition an ein oder zwei junge Torhüter vergeben. „Die Nummer zwei braucht Spielpraxis. Aber erstmal muss klar sein, ob die Juniors in der Oberliga spielen oder nicht.“ Auf jeden Fall werden die Eisbären eine Ausländerlizenz für einen Torhüter freihalten, für den Fall, dass Jonas sich verletzen sollte.

Manager does not Roach to be back and is in the market for a replacement, so it´s obvious, that he´ll leave.

then it's maybe a two way and roach will play AHL in case of a lock-out. otherwise i think he would be willing to stay in mannheim and the manager would take him back.

I wanted to point out, that Gawlik won´t play DEL, when both teams are at full strength. It´s true, that former Adler-Coach Stewart gave reduced icetime to the youngsters, but with new Coach De Raaf it´s a wash.


but i remember the eisbaeren to play plenty youngsters. at least they had a lot of germans on their roster.


De Raaf coached the Jungadler, Page played youngsters.
I do expect De Raaf to play youngsters, when injuries come around - same for Page.


i'm not sure about de raaf because the pressure in mannheim. they rather try to sign experienced players.


The only thing that worries me:
The Jungadler "cried" when De Raaf left for the pro team and now Schütz, Goc, Ziffzer and Gawlik leave, although the former Jungadler Coach is coaching the big team and often stated, that he´s very interested in bringing in new german talents - that´s more than curious.

true. very curious. could it have something to do with the current jungadler coach?

Here is an article about Berlin (in German):


thanks, it's quite interesting. i'll try to sum it up for the non-german speakers.


Platz für junge Spieler

Die Eisbären planen maximal 10 Ausländerlizenzen bis zum Saisonstart im September zu vergeben. Für die kommende Saison gilt für Ausländerlizenzen die Regel 11+1, d.h. jedem Club stehen 12 Ausländerlizenzen zur Verfügung, aber nur 11 Spieler ohne deutschen Pass dürfen gleichzeitig auf dem Spielberichtsbogen stehen. „Wir brauchen Platz, um unseren jungen Spielern eine Chance zu geben“, begründet Lee die Selbstbeschränkung bei der Vergabe der Lizenzen. Diese Zurückhaltung gilt auch, falls es in der NHL zu einem Lock-Out der Spieler kommen sollte. „Wir werden keine Ausländerlizenz für einen NHL-Star opfern, sagte der Manager. „Wir wollen in der nächsten Saison jung, schnell und besser sein“, gab Pagé als sportliche Leitlinie aus, „letztes Jahr waren wir besser aber etwas langsamer.“


the eisbaeren want to give away just 10 of 12 possible licences for foreigners. not because they're waiting for NHLers in case of a lockout, but because they want to play younger players more and to add speed this way. pagé said that his team was too slower last season.


Jonas Nummer 1 im Tor

Im Gegensatz zur abgelaufenen Spielzeit gehen die Eisbären mit einer klaren Nummer 1 in die Saison. Pierre Pagé wird Nationaltorhüter Oliver Jonas das Vertrauen schenken. Abhängig davon, in welcher Liga der Kooperations-Partner Eisbären Juniors e.V in der nächsten Saison spielen wird, will Lee die zweite Torhüterposition an ein oder zwei junge Torhüter vergeben. „Die Nummer zwei braucht Spielpraxis. Aber erstmal muss klar sein, ob die Juniors in der Oberliga spielen oder nicht.“ Auf jeden Fall werden die Eisbären eine Ausländerlizenz für einen Torhüter freihalten, für den Fall, dass Jonas sich verletzen sollte.

oliver jonas will be the starter for berlin next season. and they are looking to sign either one or two young backups who will get some games in a lower league or juniors. but they will keep one foreigner license free in case jones could be injured.

could it have something to do with the current jungadler coach?

Quite unlikely, cause De Raafs former assistant (Frank Fischöder) took over and De Raaf/Fischöder/Müller were an excellent staff and all of them were really favoured by the young players.

De Raaf has pressure, but so does Page.
De Raaf has its own style, so does Page.

Both favour systems including speed and developing players, while still winning a lot of games.
Both are talking about giving young talented germans icetime and both did.
BUT, both are relying on the "best" players in their team, when it´s a tough game.

De Raaf will have pressure, but it´s expected, that he´ll introduce 1 or 2 young guys each season, so Pielmeier and Schlager will have the biggest chances in the offense.
Mannheim is in need of 1 or 2 defenseman (depends on Roach). Both of them might be foreign players, so the back-up of Jamie Storr is going to be german.
Because of that, i don´t get why Ziffzer left.
Ziffzer + Aus den Birken playing for Heilbronn or playing back-up to Storr....would be an excellent way to develop in my opinion.

Here is an article about Berlin (in German):
Diese Zurückhaltung gilt auch, falls es in der NHL zu einem Lock-Out der Spieler kommen sollte. „Wir werden keine Ausländerlizenz für einen NHL-Star opfern, sagte der Manager.

I want to see that, when Jeremy Roenick knocks at Lee's office door. ;)

I want to see that, when Jeremy Roenick knocks at Lee's office door. ;)

The problem of this sentence is "star"....Mario Lemieux is a star in Lee´s mind, but is Jason Allison a star in Lee´s mind or just a good NHLer (what about other Anschutz-Boys like Carter, Frolov, Stumpel, Visnovsky, etc)?


They won´t sacrifice a spot for a NHL Star....maybe they´ll do for a good NHLer, which might be a superstar in the DEL....it all depends on your view and the connection Los Angeles-Berlin is too big to ignore.

They won´t sacrifice a spot for a NHL Star....maybe they´ll do for a good NHLer, which might be a superstar in the DEL....it all depends on your view and the connection Los Angeles-Berlin is too big to ignore.

and i read somewhere that stumpel has german ancestors and would be willing to play in germany. so where could he play? ;)

and i read somewhere that stumpel has german ancestors and would be willing to play in germany. so where could he play? ;)

Iserlohn :lol

No offense against Iserlohn ;)

The problem of this sentence is "star"....Mario Lemieux is a star in Lee´s mind, but is Jason Allison a star in Lee´s mind or just a good NHLer (what about other Anschutz-Boys like Carter, Frolov, Stumpel, Visnovsky, etc)?


They won´t sacrifice a spot for a NHL Star....maybe they´ll do for a good NHLer, which might be a superstar in the DEL....it all depends on your view and the connection Los Angeles-Berlin is too big to ignore.

Plus, any just "decent" NHL-player would help them for sure - they still have not won the german championship... :p:

Iserlohn :lol

i thought about wolfsburg and volkswagen as sponsor. :joker:

Plus, any just "decent" NHL-player would help them for sure - they still have not won the german championship... :p:

just a matter of time though. i like what they do with their junior team and they should be able to build a nice team for the future and then they have to add just some stars. not necessary NHLers.

they still have not won the german championship... :p:

and hopefully still won´t win...

Plus, any just "decent" NHL-player would help them for sure - they still have not won the german championship... :p:
In opposite to the BSC(20x)..... :win: :lol :lol

In opposite to the BSC(20x)..... :win: :lol :lol

Deutscher Rekordmeister ist nur der BSC, nur der BSC, nur der BSC... :banana:

Deutscher Rekordmeister ist nur der BSC, nur der BSC, nur der BSC... :banana:
And I'am still waiting for the next derbies against our neighbours, the Polarbears....but hopefully without any incident or trouble with their fans. :teach:


Es lebe der BSC!!!!!! :banana:

And I'am still waiting for the next derbies against our neighbours, the Polarbears....but hopefully without any incident or trouble with their fans. :teach:

I think the chance is not very high - for both...


Es lebe der BSC!!!!!! :banana:

:yo:

I think the chance is not very high - for both...

Neverless, i would defenitely try to go to the derby in "Hohenschönhausen" and the "Wellblechpalast". :yo:

Leipzig-BSC could also be very interesting.... :)

According to Wolfgang Brück, chairman of the Iserlohn Roosters, his team will present an NHL-star on Friday, who will come over in case of a lockout.

It's supposed to be a real star-player, not using the german definition of "star" ;)

Mike York will play for Iserlohn in case of a lockout.

http://www.iec.de/

Don´t know if i should cry, scream, be happy or be angry about it....Yorkie coming to Germany...wooohaaa

any rumors of NHLers coming to germany? it seems possible that chris drury would play with his brother ted in kassel in case of a lock-out. would be nice, but i wouldn't count on it, because NHLers are maybe too expensive for kassel.

Marco Sturm is said to play for Ingolstadt in case of...

Marco Sturm is said to play for Ingolstadt in case of...

I thought he would play for Hamburg, the former Munich team.

Hamburg had interest in Sturm, but not any more.
The team management believes it would disrpupt team chemistry, if one player comes in and leaves after a few games.

Stupid reason, but it's not my decision :shakehead

The reason Marco Sturm was always tied to the Barons/Freezers franchise was in Christian Kunast playing for them, as Marco is married to Christian's sister. But then he only worked out with them for maybe a week or two over the summer.
Now that there is the real chance of a lockout around the corner he is said to interested in playing for Ingoldstadt because it is the DEL closest to his home-town Landshut. Also one of his best friends, Gunther Oswald, plays for Panthers...
And Ingoldstadt could definetly afford signing Marco because they are being owned by the founder of Mediamarkt (a German/European Best Buy)...

Just love to see all these great players play over here!

matt herr to duesseldorf is not officially confirmed yet, but seems to be a sure thing. another nice new player in the DEL.

Sturm said Künast leaving Hamburg wouldn't change anything. Of course he would have liked to play with him, but it wasn't really important for him. He would have played for Hamburg even without Künast.

I think Sturm was tied to Landshut/München/Hamburg, because he played for the team. He played for the Cannibals years before he was drafted.

Up until now, Hamburg, Ingolstadt and some Swiss teams were interested and he hadn't made a decision yet. Now Hamburg dropped out and Ingolstadt and the swiss teams are remaining.

I think DEL is really number 2 in the world next year, at least number 3.


No chance. 2nd best league is either AHL, Finnish league or russian. Then comes swedish league, after that german, czech, switzerland in no particular order.

I don't think the other leagues are really stronger, only the Russian league, because they have way more money.
The local talent is better in Finland and Sweden, as well as in the Czech Rep., but Germany has way more foreigners. And it's not like Germany gets the worst, most of them are AHL topscorers or even play in the NHL.

The other leagues get them, too, but their teams can't play 11 foreigners like the DEL-teams can.

The DEL isn't stronger than the leagues in Finland, Sweden or Russia, but it isn't really worse either.
Germany doesn't produce as much talent as the other countries, that's the only disadvantage.

Sanderson has it right...... the NHLers who MAY wander over to Europe in the event of a lockout will most likely look at Germany, Switzerland and Russia as their first destinations - for financial reasons.

Secondly, although I would agree that Russia, Sweden, Finland, the Czech Republic and maybe Slovakia and Switzerland have better leagues due to the amount of players those leagues develop, I do not agree that those leagues are ultimately "stronger on the ice" than the DEL, the teams of which would most likely beat most AHL teams.

Otherwise, all the first leagues in these countries have teams that could beat most of the teams in the other league's top leagues. Did you get that? The difference isn't that great. In addition, we shouldn't forget that the 10 or 11 foreign players per team allowed by the DEL is a greater amount than in any other of the European leagues.

By the way, anyone think Hannover has been doing some nice things this off-season?

Surely it could backfire, but it looks like lines of

Augusta - Öberg - Cisar
Morcinietz - Soccio - Cipolla
Dolak - Hlushko - Abstreiter
Lanier - Hackert - Röthke

along with Künast and Kauhanen in goal and a deep defense featuring

Lambert - Wilson
Brüggemann - Frylén
Köppchen - Teljukin
Borberg - Steingroß

and the Födelizenzer Kozhevnikov und Schopper

should form a decent team that'd theoretically battle for the final playoff spot. In addition, obviously Hannover is finally going in a direction more conducive for the German players. No less than 9 should see regular ice time.

Actually, this team should host no less than 6 30+ point scorers plus a few in the 20ies. That'd be quite decent in the current low-scoring climate.

Any thoughts?

By the way, anyone think Hannover has been doing some nice things this off-season?

Surely it could backfire, but it looks like lines of

Augusta - Öberg - Cisar
Morcinietz - Soccio - Cipolla
Dolak - Hlushko - Abstreiter
Lanier - Hackert - Röthke

along with Künast and Kauhanen in goal and a deep defense featuring

Lambert - Wilson
Brüggemann - Frylén
Köppchen - Teljukin
Borberg - Steingroß

and the Födelizenzer Kozhevnikov und Schopper

should form a decent team that'd theoretically battle for the final playoff spot. In addition, obviously Hannover is finally going in a direction more conducive for the German players. No less than 9 should see regular ice time.

Actually, this team should host no less than 6 30+ point scorers plus a few in the 20ies. That'd be quite decent in the current low-scoring climate.

Any thoughts?
Nice to see 3 Ex-Preussen-players(Röthke,Öberg,Lanier) in the roster....... :banana: :banana:


Dennis Seidenberg woll propably play for the Kölner Haie, with his younger brother Yannik in the team....


Brandon Reid (Manitoba Moose ,AHL)---------> Hamburg Freezers(DEL)

Künast, Köppchen, Röthke, Abstreiter and Lambert all played for Hamburg last season, they basically took everyone who was available ;)

Augusta - Öberg - Cisar
Morcinietz - Soccio - Cipolla
Dolak - Hlushko - Abstreiter
Lanier - Hackert - Röthke

along with Künast and Kauhanen in goal and a deep defense featuring

Lambert - Wilson
Brüggemann - Frylén
Köppchen - Teljukin
Borberg - Steingroß



It doesn´t impress me that much. 1st offensive line is a good one and the 2nd line looks okay, but not that goog (Morcinietz is a little bit soft and Cipolla is solid, but not an impact player).
Lines 3 and 4 are good guys for line 3/4, but with injuries coming along i´m not able to see guys being ready to fill a spot on line 1 or 2.
Hlushko is getting old and has never been a consistent performer - although he has been one of my favorites in Mannheim.
Künast and Kauhanen look like Roloson and Fernandez of the wild. two former back-ups, both solid, but both are not "the cream of the crop".
I´m not too high on Lambert - very inconsistent performer, Teljukin is good in the offense, but joins the rush too often. Köppchen is a good one, Brüggemann is not flashy and doesn´t posses solid passings skills - a good guy for the number 5/6 spot, but nothing more.
Wilson isn´t getting younger and he hasn´t been a fast skater. Can´t judge Frylen, cause i haven´t seen him enough.
Hannover will end the 8th to 10th spot - my prediction.

News in Nuremberg!!

Lubomir Sekeras(Dallas Stars)-------->Nuremberg(DEL)

Good stuff there Bakos!

It doesn´t impress me that much. 1st offensive line is a good one and the 2nd line looks okay, but not that goog (Morcinietz is a little bit soft and Cipolla is solid, but not an impact player).

I see it the same way. The question is, can both Morcinietz and Cipolla bring 30+ points while playing next to an older yet still effective Len Soccio?



Lines 3 and 4 are good guys for line 3/4, but with injuries coming along i´m not able to see guys being ready to fill a spot on line 1 or 2.

That's true, but compared to Hannover's philosophy of the past, at least there WILL BE bodies to fill in case of injury. Also, there are plenty of other DEL teams going with similar style 3rd and 4th liners.



Hlushko is getting old and has never been a consistent performer - although he has been one of my favorites in Mannheim.

Nice to hear. I think he's a decent signing as long as not to much is required of him. Letting him serve on one of the last two lines should still make him useful, although not an impact player.



Künast and Kauhanen look like Roloson and Fernandez of the wild. two former back-ups, both solid, but both are not "the cream of the crop".

True.



I´m not too high on Lambert - very inconsistent performer, Teljukin is good in the offense, but joins the rush too often. Köppchen is a good one, Brüggemann is not flashy and doesn´t posses solid passings skills - a good guy for the number 5/6 spot, but nothing more.

Actually, no defenseman in this group is without his obvious weakness, but each can be effective if working within the ramifications of his role. I think the defense looks more solid now than in the past two seasons.


Wilson isn´t getting younger and he hasn´t been a fast skater. Can´t judge Frylen, cause i haven´t seen him enough. Hannover will end the 8th to 10th spot - my prediction.

Frylén is probably the most solid of the bunch. Your assessment seems pretty much right on the dot, but we'll have to see what the other teams do in the meantime. Basically though, this Hannover club looks more solid than the past two seasons and when thrown in with all the teams that finished between spots 7 to last, has a good shot at being better than most.

I figure if the team even gets the following out of its players, they should be a playoff team...... rein theoretisch:

Künast 2.75 .900
Kauhanen 2.85 .890

Lambert -
7-22-29
Wilson -
3-3-6
Brüggemann -
1-4-5
Frylén -
5-17-22
Köppchen -
2-8-10
Teljukin -
3-15-18
Borberg -
???
Steingroß
???

Augusta
14-22-36
Öberg
10-25-35
Cisar
26-15-41


Morcinietz
13-17-30
Soccio
12-28-40
Cipolla
14-21-35

Dolak
5-7-12
Hlushko
7-11-18
Abstreiter
4-8-12

Lanier
4-6-10
Hackert
2-3-5
Röthke
3-3-6

Likely??? Dunno, but very possible nonetheless!

Thomas Greilinger from Nurnberg to Mannheim.
Tomas Martinec in exchange from Mannheim Adler to Nurnberg Ice Tigers.

Former Rooster-Coach Poss gets "his" guy in Martinec.
Greilinger has had problems with the Ice Tigers.
Interesting trade and it wasn´t expected...

There´s a rumour, that Chris Joseph and Derek Plante won´t return to Mannheim.
2 or 3 teams are interested in Plante...
If that´s the case, then it´s a totally different squad - no Roach, no Martinec, no Plante, no Joseph, new goalies, etc.
It wasn´t expected that way

Mannheim signed Eric Healey (Chicago Wolves) as the replacement for Jason Morgan (signed a contract with the Chicago Blackhawks).

Thomas Greilinger from Nurnberg to Mannheim.
Tomas Martinec in exchange from Mannheim Adler to Nurnberg Ice Tigers.

Former Rooster-Coach Poss gets "his" guy in Martinec.
Greilinger has had problems with the Ice Tigers.
Interesting trade and it wasn´t expected...


indeed interesting. both signed contracts until 2006 btw.


There´s a rumour, that Chris Joseph and Derek Plante won´t return to Mannheim.
2 or 3 teams are interested in Plante...
If that´s the case, then it´s a totally different squad - no Roach, no Martinec, no Plante, no Joseph, new goalies, etc.
It wasn´t expected that way


but it was right to do so. the team needed a change. but i don't know if the new players are team players. and that's what mannheim needs the most.


Mannheim signed Eric Healey (Chicago Wolves) as the replacement for Jason Morgan (signed a contract with the Chicago Blackhawks).

healey is a solid signing. good move by kuhl.

but it was right to do so. the team needed a change. but i don't know if the new players are team players. and that's what mannheim needs the most.


I wouldn´t say it that way.
We need a team, which includes team players ;)
Kelly and Healey are friends, and Tripp played for Manchester while Kelly was there.
Hopefully there´s a good connection.
We do have enough team players, but lots of them have big egos and they were not willing to work their ass off - new faces will be the key.
If someome takes Plante off our hands and Joseph and Edgerton quit their jobs, then i´m really excited.
I´m not too sure about the quality of Storr, but at least he asked for a girl to care about his child which indicates, that he has no interest in leaving Europe soon, like Jason Morgan and Darren Haydar did.

I wouldn´t say it that way.
We need a team, which includes team players ;)


:lol: true!


Kelly and Healey are friends, and Tripp played for Manchester while Kelly was there.
Hopefully there´s a good connection.


at least it is something to lean on.


We do have enough team players, but lots of them have big egos and they were not willing to work their ass off - new faces will be the key.


what's your definition of a team player? if someone's ego is big and he's not willing to work, he everything but a team player.


If someome takes Plante off our hands and Joseph and Edgerton quit their jobs, then i´m really excited.


and if tomlinson is coming back! :D


I´m not too sure about the quality of Storr, but at least he asked for a girl to care about his child which indicates, that he has no interest in leaving Europe soon, like Jason Morgan and Darren Haydar did.

storr should be ok, but he is no top-end goalie in the DEL, i guess. and if everything goes wrong, rosati is waiting for the call. ;)

I think Storr should be one of the better Goalies. He is like Jimmy Waite, a high draft pick who never became the goalie he should have been, and Waite was the best goalie in the second half of last season.

Every team has a good goalie now, and there isn't a clear cut star goalie in the league. Some years ago Rousson was the best, later Trefilov, Wallinheimo, Müller and now Waite and Rousson again. It depends too much on the overall level of the team.

what's your definition of a team player? if someone's ego is big and he's not willing to work, he everything but a team player.


It´s not a thing of definition.
We did have (i looooove the past :yo: ) have good players, and we did have guys who were grinder, but these guys played 1 or 2 years of good hockey in Europe and it hit them in their head.
If you do have a look at the early Steve Junker or the early Todd Hlushko - those were great guys, great guys in the dressing room, great guys on the ice - just doing what was expected.
In the end those players asked about playing top-line minutes again and again. That´s been the problem in the last years. Two many "proven" DEL guys, who thought about getting top-line minutes. We didn´t have too much quality in the area of leadership - we did have too much of underachieving guys who expected bigger roles than they could handle.

MAPLE LEAFS captain Mats Sundin is not expected to join the European migration of displaced National Hockey Leaguers, at least not right away. The Boston Bruins' Joe Thornton is signed with HC Davos in Switzerland, New York Islanders defenceman Adrian Aucoin is in talks with a German team, and a yet-to-be named NHL star is Davos-bound.

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSun/Sports/2004/07/10/534130.html

I do wonder, which team has talks with Aucoin...Hamburg ?

MAPLE LEAFS captain Mats Sundin is not expected to join the European migration of displaced National Hockey Leaguers, at least not right away. The Boston Bruins' Joe Thornton is signed with HC Davos in Switzerland, New York Islanders defenceman Adrian Aucoin is in talks with a German team, and a yet-to-be named NHL star is Davos-bound.

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSun/Sports/2004/07/10/534130.html

I do wonder, which team has talks with Aucoin...Hamburg ?
Perhaps the Iserlohn Roosters???There are rumours, that they are in contact with a NHL-defenceman.....

wow...Aucoin to a DEL team...thats cool. Wonder how he would do in the DEL?!?!
He plays about 30 min in NHl...wil he play around 35 - 40 min in the DEL?

No, I don't think it would be Hamburg. The Freezers won't even try to get Sturm, because they don't want to disrupt team chemistry by bringing in a player who could leave again shortly afterwards. ( :banghead: )
Hamburg's D was the best in the league last season, and it is even stronger now, while the forwards are somewhat weak.


I don't think Aucoin would play more than 30-35 minutes. The rink is bigger and each team dresses 7 or 8 defensemen, there is no need to play him the whole time.

Did know teams dress 7 or 8 Dmen in a game ;) ...thanks for telling!

After Andy Roach left Mannheim to join the St.Louis Blues and Jason Morgan left for the Chicago Blackhawks, rumours are circling around Mannheim, that new Goalie Jamie Storr might not arrive in Mannheim, too.
Storr will make a decision in the next few days. He has to discuss it with his wife, cause she wants to stay in NA. Storr said, that he travelled a lot in the last period and he needs a rest. :shakehead

I don´t know, why he didn´t discuss it with his wife before signing the contract....
maybe think about taking a rest before signing the contract....

just brutal this off-season.... :(
What about Steve Kelly and John Tripp ? No interest in stepping down from the signed contract ? Can´t believe it *sarcasm*

Perhaps the Iserlohn Roosters???There are rumours, that they are in contact with a NHL-defenceman.....
That´d be great !
I´ll travel as much as i can to Iserlohn (if Mike York is coming) and Aucoin would be a nice addition :handclap:

Sean Tallaire has signed with Nurnberg - another Poss-buddy to Nurnberg.
Nurnberg will have a decent squad and has an excellent coach. Good system, maybe better players than Poss had in Iserlohn, so i expect the Ice Tigers to have a great season !

I don't think Aucoin would play more than 30-35 minutes. The rink is bigger and each team dresses 7 or 8 defensemen, there is no need to play him the whole time.

As far as I know, Hamburg is set on defense with Van Impe, Letang, Manning, Peacock, Smazal, Walter, Molling and Martinovic. Still, Aucoin and Van Impe played together one season on Long Island and I do believe Aucoin was coached by King somewhere along the line.

I'm now curious who the last two forwards will be for Hamburg. As it looks now, up front they've got Plachta-Purdie-Greig, Tomlinson-Reid-House, Francz-Hynes-Rumrich, Oravec. They've given out 9 of 11 foreign licenses. Is another big-name North American in the works???
:dunno:

some local newspaper reported that Dany Heatley is interested in playing in the DEL.

some local newspaper reported that Dany Heatley is interested in playing in the DEL.

That would make sense. His father played in Freiburg, Germany, where Dany was born.

I'm now curious who the last two forwards will be for Hamburg. As it looks now, up front they've got Plachta-Purdie-Greig, Tomlinson-Reid-House, Francz-Hynes-Rumrich, Oravec. They've given out 9 of 11 foreign licenses. Is another big-name North American in the works???
:dunno:


Welp, they just signed Nils Anton. Not toooooo thrilled about that signing. Definitely just a fourth liner with Oravec.

Hamburg has a list of five North American players. According to some newspapers Denis Hamel ist the favorite, but they want to wait until after the signing deadline for Europe-bound players (which is today), before they make any offers.

Denis Hamel ist the favorite


Good guy, but his injury card isn´t very promising. He could be a bust when injured again or a homerun for the Freezers - a complete wildcard, but i´d love to see him in the DEL !

Shawn Heins(Chicago Wolves,AHL)-----------> Eisbären Berlin(DEL)

Shawn Heins(Chicago Wolves,AHL)-----------> Eisbären Berlin(DEL)

solid signing. are they set now?

I don't know where else to post this.

Please sign this petition:
Rettet die Timmendorfer Eissporthalle (http://www.inbf.de/timmendorf.php) (save the ice rink of Timmendorf)

There are not enough ice-rinks in Germany anyway and no the politicians in Timmendorf want to close the ice-rink in Timmendorf where hockey has always been very popular and consequently ending icehockey there.

As a northern German this is very important to me, I've seen Timmemdorf play very often and some of the greatest memories are related to this club so if you have a second time please sign the petition, if yoiu already did, please sign again, because yesterday the computer with most of the signatures broke :(!

I don't know where else to post this.

Please sign this petition:
Rettet die Timmendorfer Eissporthalle (http://www.inbf.de/timmendorf.php) (save the ice rink of Timmendorf)


i will open a new thread, maybe we can get some north americans to sign it. i remember timmendorf very good. the EC Kassel played against them in the oberliga in the early 90s when i was around 10 years old.

Andy Delmore signed with Mannheim.

Should be a good fit for Mannheim. His passing isn't really good and his defense is even worse, but the DEL is not the NHL, it should be good enough for this level of play. You don't even need to mention his shot ;)

Andy Delmore signed with Mannheim.

Should be a good fit for Mannheim. His passing isn't really good and his defense is even worse, but the DEL is not the NHL, it should be good enough for this level of play. You don't even need to mention his shot ;)

I do hate the signings without Delmore being on DEL-Ice yet.....Delmore sucks, he will suck - that´s for sure.

Steve Brule from AHL-Club Hershey signed a one-year-Contract (plus one year team option) with the Krefeld Penguins in the german DEL!

Matt Herr signed with Dusseldorf - excellent signing.

herr, brule, delmore...looks like the DEL is finally getting some better players than just AHL grinders like in the past. :handclap:

Nurnberg signed Goalie Norm Maracle to a contract today.


Cheers :lol

Nurnberg signed Goalie Norm Maracle to a contract today.


Cheers :lol
http://www.catbox.com/~moryssa/Pictures/Wolves/GroupShots/maracle-sellars-skalde.jpg

Maracle is on the left... :D :D

I think the DEL always got great AHL-players in the past. Trefilov, van Impe, Greig or Persson were elite players in the AHL and sometimes even full time NHL players, and they were not the only ones...


Maracle can be a pretty good goalie, see last season in Russian. Although his fitness and drinking habits could be a cause for concern ;)

D - Drew Bannister (Espoo Blues/FIN) => Nürnberg Ice Tigers

G - Tyler Moss (Toronto Roadrunners/AHL) => Mannheim Eagles (four week try-out contract)

D - Drew Bannister (Espoo Blues/FIN) => Nürnberg Ice Tigers



Woohoo - i like that signing. Drew has been one of my favorites for years. Nice to see him in the DEL :handclap:

Nuremburg and Mannheim have made some nice additions recently! I'm really curious to see what Delmore is gonna do! Defensively weak, but could he put up 25 goals from the blueline???

Nuremburg and Mannheim have made some nice additions recently! I'm really curious to see what Delmore is gonna do! Defensively weak, but could he put up 25 goals from the blueline???

i don't expect much from delmore, because players with no defense always failed in the DEL.

i don't expect much from delmore, because players with no defense always failed in the DEL.

Or they are treated like kings....Öhman, Peacock, Aldridge...atleast for a short time...

I do hope, that someone from NA signs Delmore in the next few days....don´t want to see him on DEL-Ice.

Andy Delmore signed with Mannheim.

Should be a good fit for Mannheim. His passing isn't really good and his defense is even worse, but the DEL is not the NHL, it should be good enough for this level of play. You don't even need to mention his shot ;)

Well. I'm kind but Andy Delmore completely sucked in Buffalo. Maybe he don't know how to play as a d-man but why did he choose to be a blueliner in the first place?? He is lost in front of his own net and shy to play along the boards. Even in the AHL he was not capable of average defense. I saw him twice and he seems to lack motivation if his team falls behind. I'm not saying he takes every shift off but he is not the real deal. that's for sure.

Or they are treated like kings....Öhman, Peacock, Aldridge...atleast for a short time...


hehe, this sounds like an attack against the huskies, because öhman and peacock both played for kassel. :D

öhman wasn't a pure offensive player, he was defensively aware. peacock isn't much of defense sucker either.

do you remember burakowsky? he wasn't a defender, but hell...i've never seen a player like him. he never went back to defend...i'm not even sure he skated on his team's side of the rink for a second. he was brutal.

hehe, this sounds like an attack against the huskies, because öhman and peacock both played for kassel. :D

öhman wasn't a pure offensive player, he was defensively aware. peacock isn't much of defense sucker either.


IMO Peacock is a defensive liability (his point is his shot and that´s it) - he´s always good for a blackout as Öhman was.
Maybe there´s the difference of having a player making blackouts with a player who can´t make blackouts, cause he doesn´t play defense.
It´s comparable IMO, cause both will cause goals, both type of players are known because of their offense and nothing else.


btw: it was nothing against Kassel, those names just popped out of my head and Aldrigde didn´t play for Kassel. I could have namend Ted Crowley too - another Kassel player...or Shawn Anderson or about 25 other players and Peacock did dress for a lot of teams and his first team was Düsseldorf, and he´s always in my mind as a Metro Star. He played wing in juniors...maybe he would be better suited there :joker:

IMO Peacock ......He played wing in juniors...maybe he would be better suited there :joker:


Welp, I don't see him having the skating ability to play on a wing. In fact, I think Hamburg only re-signed him because of his 13 point playoff. In addition, he got better in general towards the end of the season. I guess they're giving him a chance because of that and whatever he has for a relationship with King.

Actually, the Freezers also have Van Impe, Manning, Letang, Smazal, Molling and Walter who can all play regularly on defense. Very defensively oriented. Perhaps they aren't planning on using Peacock for much more than the power play unit? In fact, looking at all these guys above, I do trust Van Impe to put up another 30+ point season, but none of the rest can even promise 10 points. Maybe Letang, and the team is obviously hoping for more from Walter, who was excellent last year.

Thus, Peacock is gonna have to chip in from that blueline one way or another!

Welp, I don't see him having the skating ability to play on a wing.

I was just referring to his time in the WHL where he played on the wing. Even in the IHL he was used as a defenseman and winger.

I was just referring to his time in the WHL where he played on the wing. Even in the IHL he was used as a defenseman and winger.


Whoooopss, I meant to write:
>>>
Welp, I don't see him having the skating ability to play on a wing NOWADAYS.
<<<

Brandon Reid lead the Moose (AHL) in scoring last year! Does anybody think he could lead Hamberg in scoring as well? I think he could get 45-60 pts.

Peacock can play defense, it's just that he is slow and prone to make some stupid mistakes ;)
He had back problems the first half of the season and wasn't very effective during that time, but it got better in the second half. He even got shorthanded IT, although Hamburg's defense was full of excellent stay at home defenders.


I think Reid has a chance to be Hamburg's topscorer, but it won't be easy. He will have some pretty good linemates, either Mark Greig or Bobby House and maybe some other yet to be named AHL-star, but so will Brad Purdie, who was Top 5 in the league the last four years (first in 2001, second in 2002 and 2003 and fifth in 2004).

norm maracle will probably leave nuernberg, because his mother, who is very sick, asked him to come home to canada. the ice tigers would let him walk without any problems. they said they have some other goalies in mind in case maracle leavs.

ratchuk and baumgartner, maybe the two best defenders of frankfurt, will probably leave. they are rumored to sign NHL-contracts. as a kassel i'd be very happy. :D

but this CBA thing really bothers me. some players are in panic it seems. first signing standard DEL-contracts and then leaving after a few weeks. this really sucks and shows a lack of respect for the DEL and a bad character.

ratchuk and baumgartner, maybe the two best defenders of frankfurt, will probably leave. they are rumored to sign NHL-contracts. as a kassel i'd be very happy. :D
:mad:

:mad:

:p:

the lions said that nothing is true with these rumors, but i guess every team would say this at this moment.

I think Reid has a chance to be Hamburg's topscorer, but it won't be easy. He will have some pretty good linemates, either Mark Greig or Bobby House and maybe some other yet to be named AHL-star, but so will Brad Purdie, who was Top 5 in the league the last four years (first in 2001, second in 2002 and 2003 and fifth in 2004).

A best case scenario for Hamburg is that Reid have the same impact for the Freezers that Dupont had for the Eisbären last season. They are strangely similar in their career paths. Dupont too was/is still a viable NHL prospect kind of on the fringe and came to Germany despite only being 23 years old. This is Reid's age as well. Thing is, if he doesn't get used to this league fast, it won't matter what he did in the AHL - the Freezers will have problems offensively.

I don't think he will have many problems, he is fast and will play with good linemates.

Reid and the other new player (rumour: Craig Johnson) should provide enough offence to replace Schneider and Washburn. Schneider is the only scorer who left the team, the rest wasn't really successfull.
It all depends on how Tomlinson and Hynes can provide offense behind the top six and how much the defense can score with just two offensive defensemen (van Impe and Peacock).

Now, if the new guys don't score as expected and the other defensemen don't step up offensively, then Rousson and Wild will have to save the day on a regular basis.

mike martin, former AHL/IHL player and last season in russia, signed with the iserlohn roosters. sounds like a solid addition.

mike green, who played 13 games for the rangers and 11 for the panthers last season, signed with the nuernberg ice tigers. that could pan out as a really nice addition. but he could be a major candidate for leaving soon again like others did. he made it from the UHL thru the ECHL thru the AHL to the NHL and then he leaves?

mike green, who played 13 games for the rangers and 11 for the panthers last season, signed with the nuernberg ice tigers. that could pan out as a really nice addition. but he could be a major candidate for leaving soon again like others did. he made it from the UHL thru the ECHL thru the AHL to the NHL and then he leaves?

The Rangers needed a body to fill a spot after the deadline. That said, he was somewhat "adequate" in his short stint. :)

Brandon Reid going to Hamburg is a MAJOR acquisition and probably will be the best of any German team this year.

What's up with Mike Green though? Is he a lockout-only signing or is he going to Nürnberg for good?

Craig Johnson signed with Hamburg, filling the last spot in the lineup.
He didn't exactly set the world on fire, but he was a NHL-regular non the less.

He is the first non German or Canadian under Dave King in Hamburg.

Yep, I'm excited about Johnson. That's a bonafide NHLer who did have several decent years as a 3rd liner for St. Louis und LA. For the DEL, he should be able to make an impact once he gets used to the league. I have little doubt that this defensively oriented club will get more than adequate production this year. Heck, if things EVEN look like this at the end of the season, I'm sure the Freezers will be among the top 4 DEL clubs, probably along with Berlin, Mannheim and Nuremburg:

Goalies:
Rousson, Wild

Defense:
Van Impe/ 10-27-37
Peacock/ 12-16-28
Letang/ 3-12-15
Walter/ 2-10-12
Manning/ 1-7-8
Smazal/ 1-5-6
Molling/ 0-3-3

Forwards:
Plachta/ 10-17-27
Purdie/ 18-29-47
Greig/ 20-23-43

Johnson/ 15-19-34
Reid/ 11-23-34
House/ 25-12-37

Francz/ 6-12-18
Tomlinson/ 7-11-18
Rumrich7 5-10-15

Antons/ 1-4-5
Hynes/ 3-11-14
Oravec/ 4-4-8

Martinovic/ 0-2-2

:yo:

Craig Johnson has amazing, yet underrated speed. He should do very well on the larger rink surface.

Brandon Reid going to Hamburg is a MAJOR acquisition and probably will be the best of any German team this year.

What's up with Mike Green though? Is he a lockout-only signing or is he going to Nürnberg for good?

Hey Owen,

Green is a regular acquisition. Until now, the only player who has signed a contract in the DEL in case of a lock-out is Mike York (Iserlohn).

Until now, the only player who has signed a contract in the DEL in case of a lock-out is Mike York (Iserlohn).

Hecht and Butenschön also signed a "in case of Lock-Out"-contract in Mannheim.

Magro

norm maracle will probably leave nuernberg, because his mother, who is very sick, asked him to come home to canada. the ice tigers would let him walk without any problems. they said they have some other goalies in mind in case maracle leavs.

I think I read somewhere that Nuremburg picked up a Czech goalie (Svoboda, i think) to replace Maracle? They say they've had their eyes on this young guy for awhile now and that he's better than Maracle anyway. At least that's what I hear.

......rumours are circling around Mannheim, that new Goalie Jamie Storr might not arrive in Mannheim, too.
Storr will make a decision in the next few days. He has to discuss it with his wife, cause she wants to stay in NA. Storr said, that he travelled a lot in the last period and he needs a rest. :shakehead .....

Does anybody have any update on Storr? He isn't listed on Mannheim's website

I think I read somewhere that Nuremburg picked up a Czech goalie (Svoboda, i think) to replace Maracle? They say they've had their eyes on this young guy for awhile now and that he's better than Maracle anyway. At least that's what I hear.

Now THAT sounds convincing. He is better and younger, that is why we took another guy first instead of him. Yeah, right.....

On Storr, he is not going to Mannheim because his wife objected to moving yet again (of all things). Mannheim invited Tyler Moss into camp as a possible replacement.

Hecht and Butenschön also signed a "in case of Lock-Out"-contract in Mannheim.

Magro

Ooops!!! Sure! Somehow I forgot about those two signings. I'm sorry!

:help: :help:
can you please tell me something about a player called Moritz Muller. a local paper listed him as the "jewel of german hockey" besides Chris Gawlik. Thanks!

:help: :help:
can you please tell me something about a player called Moritz Muller. a local paper listed him as the "jewel of german hockey" besides Chris Gawlik. Thanks!

Moritz Müller was born in Kassel (my hometown) and is a very big talent. Last season he made 2 games for the cologne sharks in the DEL, although he was only 16 years old. In the german junior League DNL (Deutsche Nachwuchsliga) he scored 60 points last season. Here you can see the stats: Stats Moritz Müller (http://www.eurohockey.net/players/frameset.cgi?page=show_player.cgi?serial=62117)

Magro

:help: :help:
can you please tell me something about a player called Moritz Muller. a local paper listed him as the "jewel of german hockey" besides Chris Gawlik. Thanks!

http://www.haie.de/index.php?type=player&playerId=290&teamYear=2004

i have seen him play several times 4 years ago, he was a good player, but nothing special. i think he's not really a jewel, he's just a good prospect with good upside like many others.
i don't know what progress he made the last 4 years, since he left kassel, but i guess it was a good progress because he seems to have a chance to play for cologne in the DEL and not only in the juniorleague.

sorry, can't tell you more so far.

Moritz Müller was born in Kassel (my hometown)

unfortunately he was born in the town 200km south of kassel which name i don't want to write. :cry:

but at least he played for the EJK :)

:eek: Uhhh sorry....Ok then forget this with the "big talent"! ;) :lol

:eek: Uhhh sorry....Ok then forget this with the "big talent"! ;) :lol

:lol :joker:

Reid will be a treat for the hamburg fans and wait and see his speed and skill, and with the big rink watch out.. put Reid with a sniper and some speed and they will kill the league...What a pleasure he was watching in Vancouver and they Nucks were nuts letting him go.. what a dumb move, but we have been known to be idiots for years , nothing new.. have fun..and cheer for Reid,, never mind you will have not chioice but to cheer for him,he is a crowd pleaser... :handclap:

Daniel Corso will play next season for the Kassel Huskies. He signed a one year contract.

Seems to be a good technician with the puck. Now Kassel only needs a real blueliner and the season can start.

Magro

Daniel Corso will play next season for the Kassel Huskies. He signed a one year contract.


this is what i call good news. can't argue with this signing! :handclap:


Seems to be a good technician with the puck. Now Kassel only needs a real blueliner and the season can start.


but somehow i doubt they will get one. when was the last time they had a blueliner?

The last really good blueliner was Jeff Tory 01/02... But this season the chances are really nice to see a great number seven on the ice.
God praise the lock-out! :bow: ;)

Magro

Thanks Mike for the info on Green
Thanks Bejay for the info on Storr

The last really good blueliner was Jeff Tory 01/02... But this season the chances are really nice to see a great number seven on the ice.


hmm...i've never been a fan of tory. the last real blueliners in kassel were öhman/johnston and i liked cooper a lot.


God praise the lock-out! :bow: ;)


no, not really. this lockout will hurt the european leagues. the teams are even more unequal than usually.
imagine if the lockout would last a whole season. iserlohn would have york and therefore would been better than usually.

I think the DEL has actually a very good balance between the teams.
There hasn't been a team winning two years in a row or even finishing first and winning the title, in a long time.

It were only four points between the second and the seventh last season. Hamburg, for example, dropped from first to ninth in just two or three weeks and came back to the top when they went on a hot streak shortly afterwards.

I think the DEL has actually a very good balance between the teams.
There hasn't been a team winning two years in a row or even finishing first and winning the title, in a long time.


the mannheim years are indeed over. thank god! :D


It were only four points between the second and the seventh last season. Hamburg, for example, dropped from first to ninth in just two or three weeks and came back to the top when they went on a hot streak shortly afterwards.

yes, but the finances aren't that equal. so we can be happy that smaller teams have good GMs and coaches.

i just think some NHLers for some month would ruin that equality.

Marco Sturm has signed with Ingolstadt in case of a lockout.

I think Daniel Corso is a good signing for Kassel. Actually, I'm surprised they've been able to pick up Corso and Swanson - not bad at all. We'll see what Bousquet can do. However, if those three and Abstreiter, Drury and Serikow don't produce enough, it could be a long season for Kassel. They have to hope that there is a revelation among those kids they're bringing in!

The blueline needs some thickening too, but I don't see them bringing in any big names. It seems like several of the guys they have will need to pick things up!
:dunno:

I think Daniel Corso is a good signing for Kassel. Actually, I'm surprised they've been able to pick up Corso and Swanson - not bad at all. We'll see what Bousquet can do. However, if those three and Abstreiter, Drury and Serikow don't produce enough, it could be a long season for Kassel. They have to hope that there is a revelation among those kids they're bringing in!


agreed. corso and swanson could have some chemistry and laflamme is a friend of corso, so it should be easier for these guys to adjust. i think the huskies won't be a high-scoring team, but at least they won't be as bad as usual when it comes to goals.


The blueline needs some thickening too, but I don't see them bringing in any big names. It seems like several of the guys they have will need to pick things up!
:dunno:

according to coach mcparland we can expect a big name for the blueline. three players are negociating with kassel and one of them will be signed this week. so we have to wait to know who the big name is.

Marco Sturm has signed with Ingolstadt in case of a lockout.

Good signing by Ingolstadt. If there is a lock out I will definatly visit a few games in Ingolstadt.

:handclap: :handclap:

The Augsburg Panthers announced the signing of Center Francois Methot.

The Augsburg Panthers announced the signing of Center Francois Methot.

solid signing. methot has good stats in the AHL and should be a nice addition. but augsburg has a weak team, i think.

solid signing. methot has good stats in the AHL and should be a nice addition. but augsburg has a weak team, i think.

I'd say it's way too early for such a judgement. There are still four open roster spots. A serious judgment can be made after the roster is complete. If they are able to sign at least one really good forward and a No.1 defender along with a solid stay-at-home defender and another decent winger they should be able to compete for a play-off spot. It all depends on those four players...

I'd say it's way too early for such a judgement. There are still four open roster spots. A serious judgment can be made after the roster is complete. If they are able to sign at least one really good forward and a No.1 defender along with a solid stay-at-home defender and another decent winger they should be able to compete for a play-off spot. It all depends on those four players...

true, but these are a lot of "if"s. so far the roster doesn't scare me and the GM has a lot of work ahead.

but i guess in a week we'll know more. i expect most teams to sign their missing players soon.

Geez, seeing the new Freezers-jerseys you could think they spend all their money on Reid and Johnson and had nothing left for a good designer... :shakehead

When Volksbank/Hamburger Bank became sponsor it was pretty clear, that they couldn't design a new jersey in the middle of the season, so the change made it look relatively bad.
I thought they had enough time in the sommer to design a new jersey, in which the sponsor logo would actually blend in, but no, the logo is still there, even bigger than before and it doesn't look very pretty... :banghead:

sanderson, do you have a link where we can laugh about the new jersey? :)

http://www.radiohamburg.de/radio.html

On the right

I thought the name of the team was Hamburg Freezers, not Volksbank Hamburg...

Awful jerseys!

I'm very curious about the new Preussen jerseys. Their away jerseys will be red and the home jerseys black - the Zoro's are back in town. :yo:

There appears to be somewhat good news. If I read correctly, there will be a blue and white third jersey without the big sponsor logo. Will have the "mask" instead.

I hope that's true...

Richard Pavlikovsky signs with Wolfsburg

I'm very curious how their Czech-Slovak connection is gonna work out in the DEL? Sure didn't help the Moskitos a few seasons back, but Nuremberg has done well with several of them.

In general I'm very curious what role Wolfsburg will play in the DEL this season. I do not seeing them being worse than Freiburg was, by no stretch of the imagination! Also, I'm curious what a guy like Zurek will do in the DEL after years of being a topscorer in lower-class leagues. There's nothing saying this team doesn't have at least 6 forwards capable of 20+ points (Ciernik, Karabin, Zurek, Delisle, Musial, Simon). The defense definitely looks stronger than Freiburg's did last season alone through Smrek, Clarke and Pavlikovsky, and the goaltending is superior. In fact, at this point, this Wolfsburg roster certainly looks stronger than Iserlohn's!

The Augsburg Panther today allegedly signed D Remi Royer to a one- year contract.:banghead:

The transfer has not yet been confirmed by the club.

P.S.: It seems to be some kind of try-out, though.

Keith Aldridge has signed a contract with the New York Islanders. I guess his days with the Eisbären are over, although I'm not certain what his status was one way or another.

The Isles need a veteran presence for their farm club, Bridgeport. The signing serves that purpose, for sure.

Does anyone know if Jonas Fiedler of the Plymouth Whalers in the OHL is German or perhaps Austrian or Swiss???

Gruss

He is from the Czech Republic.

Could be of German heritage, you never know these days... ;)

I guess you all know, but no-one has yet mentioned:

Joe Murphy -> Frankfurt

Brett Lysak -> Iserlohn

Marc Brown -> Augsburg
Yannick Treille
John Jakopin


I don't know what Murphy can bring in the DEL, but he should be an adequate replacement for Gosselin, who did nothing until putting in a fine playoffs.

Lysak, like Dupont and Reid before him, is another guy who is young and was considered as still having NHL possibilities. I wonder how he'll do there in Iserlohn. One way or the other, at this point, Iserlohn appears to be the weakest team in the DEL on paper. But the game IS played on the ice. However, Lysak has NOT been a big scorer in the AHL....

The three signings for Augsburg, along with the possible addition of Remi Royer (former Blackhawks prospect) appear quite interesting. Jakopin should be a strong player who can fairly easily replace Dandenault. Treille had 12-12-24 stats last season after a weak AHL season the year before. Something tells me he's gonna renège on his contract and won't end up playing with Augsburg. I get the same feeling with Royer, but we'll know within three weeks. Brown is a surely going to be a reliable 2nd liner but his offensive ability was never really appearant with the exception of one AHL season (01-02) when he had 55 points. There are currently no less than 5 native French speakers in the Augsburg camp - a league high.

However, I don't see any of the additions above as having much of a table-changing impact.

Looking forward to the season!
:yo:

Can someone help me out here?


http://www.del.org/news/news.asp?nid=3590
http://www.del.org/news/news.asp?nid=3596


Do these articles state that Nolan Baumgartner has decided not to play in Germany? If so, does it say if he's re-signing with Vancouver/Manitoba Moose?

Thanks! :cheers:

Can someone help me out here?


http://www.del.org/news/news.asp?nid=3590
http://www.del.org/news/news.asp?nid=3596


Do these articles state that Nolan Baumgartner has decided not to play in Germany? If so, does it say if he's re-signing with Vancouver/Manitoba Moose?

Thanks! :cheers:

Yes, Nolan Baumgartner has signed with the Canucks and wont play for Frankfurt.

Magro

Here's a clip from the preseason game Augsburg-Ingolstadt:

http://www.sogoku.hockrad02.de/dl/Video.avi

It shows the end of the "brawl", which happened because Günther Oswal ran into Augsburg's goalie Jean-Francois Labbé (wasn't the first time in the game).

There are different versions of the incident.
From what I heard, Labbé wanted to fight Oswald, who ran away. Two of Labbé's teammates attacked Oswald until the linesmen came in. In the mean time Ingolstadt's goalie Jimmy Waite came over to attack Labbé, but was stopped by the linesmen as well. The rest you can see in the clip.

Speaking of Labbé and company:

I figure I'd go ahead and liven up this string by making predictions about the scoring of EVERY line-up in the DEL. Feel free to do the same and heck, maybe we can compare it all at the end of the season. I'll start with Augsburg and move on alphabetically:

Season totals (after possible playoffs)
GOAL:
Labbe - GAA 2,36 / % .915
Endras - GAA 4,02 / % .880

DEFENSE:
Miner - 8-26-34
Rekis - 7-13-20
Jakopin - 3-11-14
Royer - 5-8-13
Danner - 2-9-11
Fendt - 1-7-8
Rau - 0-7-7
Tölzer 0-0-0

FORWARDS:
Fortier - 17-30-47
Methot - 15-23-38
Girard - 9-28-37
Carter - 14-18-32
Brown - 13-13-26
Felsner - 9-14-23
Arendt - 11-8-19
Barta - 6-12-18
Moeser - 7-10-17
Brezina - 6-8-14
Kofler - 8-5-13
Appel - 4-4-8
Danner - 0-1-1
Mayr - 0-1-1

Speaking of Labbé and company:

I figure I'd go ahead and liven up this string by making predictions about the scoring of EVERY line-up in the DEL. Feel free to do the same and heck, maybe we can compare it all at the end of the season. I'll start with Augsburg and move on alphabetically:

Season totals (after possible playoffs)
GOAL:
Labbe - SP 46/ Schn. 2,36 / % 91,5
Endras - SP 6/ Schn. 4,02 / % 88,00

DEFENSE:
Miner - 8-26-34
Rekis - 7-13-20
Jakopin - 3-11-14
Royer - 5-8-13
Danner - 2-9-11
Fendt - 1-7-8
Rau - 0-7-7
Tölzer 0-0-0

FORWARDS:
Fortier - 17-30-47
Methot - 15-23-38
Girard - 9-28-37
Carter - 14-18-32
Hartlieb - 15-12-27
Brown - 13-13-26
Arendt - 11-8-19
Barta - 6-12-18
Moeser - 7-10-17
Kofler - 8-5-13
Appel - 4-4-8
Danner - 0-1-1
Mayr - 0-1-1

Looks like you could forget about Hartlieb and Appel. Hartlieb will be out at least 6-7 weeks due to a broken thumb. This most probably means that his try-out-contract will be terminated and he will not remain with the Panthers for the upcoming season. Appel apparently has to undergo knee surgery. He'll be out for at least 2-3 months, but the injury could also mean the end of his career (in worst case).

Looks like you could forget about Hartlieb and Appel. Hartlieb will be out at least 6-7 weeks due to a broken thumb. This most probably means that his try-out-contract will be terminated and he will not remain with the Panthers for the upcoming season. Appel apparently has to undergo knee surgery. He'll be out for at least 2-3 months, but the injury could also mean the end of his career (in worst case).

Oiiii, bad luck for the AEV. I wonder how long it'll take to find replacements or if a guy like Mayr won't just be used a lot more for the time being???

Now for the Eisbären!

GOAL:
Jonas - GAA 2,40 / % .918
Ziffzer - ???
Levente - ???

DEFENSE:
DuPont - 10-24-34
Heins - 14-16-30
Walser - 5-22-27
Persson - 8-17-25
Leask - 4-13-17
Hordler - 1-3-4
Baxmann - 0-1-1
Draxinger - 0-0-0

OFFENSE:
Pederson - 28-27-55
Walker - 19-34-53
Fairchild - 21-31-52
Beaufait - 16-29-45
Shearer - 17-19-36
Ustorf - 9-23-32
Keller - 6-21-27
Felski - 18-8-26
Barta - 8-10-18
Busch - 3-12-15
Rankel - 6-4-10
Hoffmann - 1-2-3
Forster - 1-1-2
Liesegang - 0-1-1

Now for the DEG Metro Stars:

GOAL:
Trefilov - GAA 2,46 / % .913
Jung - GAA 2,85 / % .890

DEFENSE:
Tory - 11-37-48
Pellegrims - 6-25-31
Ulrich - 4-17-21
Jakobsen - 3-12-15
Sulzer - 3-7-10
Dandenault - 1-8-9
Pottinger - 0-2-2

OFFENSE:
Magnussen - 23-26-49
Schneider - 16-30-46
Kreutzer - 17-25-42
Herr - 15-22-37
Vikingstad - 8-27-35
Davidson - 17-15-32
Kathan - 8-18-26
Young - 8-9-17
Brittig - 5-11-16
Jung - 6-6-12
Reimer - 2-5-7
Brannstrom - 3-3-6
Jorg - 1-2-3
Kuhnhauser - 0-1-1

Now for the DEG Metro Stars:

GOAL:
Trefilov - Schn. 2,46 / % 91,3
Jung - Schn. 2,85 / % 89,00

DEFENSE:
Tory - 11-37-48
Pellegrims - 6-25-31
Ulrich - 4-17-21
Jakobsen - 3-12-15
Sulzer - 3-7-10
Dandenault - 1-8-9
Pottinger - 0-2-2

OFFENSE:
Magnussen - 23-26-49
Schneider - 16-30-46
Kreutzer - 17-25-42
Herr - 15-22-37
Vikingstad - 8-27-35
Davidson - 17-15-32
Kathan - 8-18-26
Young - 8-9-17
Brittig - 5-11-16
Jung - 6-6-12
Reimer - 2-5-7
Brannstrom - 3-3-6
Jorg - 1-2-3
Kuhnhauser - 0-1-1

P.Reimer - 9-14-23

Oiiii, bad luck for the AEV. I wonder how long it'll take to find replacements or if a guy like Mayr won't just be used a lot more for the time being???

It didn't take that long. The Panthers today signed F Robert Brezina, who spent last season with Bietigheim-Bissingen of the 2. Bundesliga, as a replacement for Pascal Appel. Brezina, one of the best German-born forwards in the 2. Bundesliga last season, signed a one-year-contract.
Ernie Hartlieb was replaced by LW/C Brian Felsner who played for Linköpings HC of the Swedish Elitserien and for the Kloten Flyers of the Swiss NLA last season. Felsner was signed to a try-out-contract which gives the Panthers the option to terminate the contract before the start of the season (should Felsner also hurt himself or should he fail to meet the expectations).

It didn't take that long. The Panthers today signed F Robert Brezina, who spent last season with Bietigheim-Bissingen of the 2. Bundesliga, as a replacement for Pascal Appel. Brezina, one of the best German-born forwards in the 2. Bundesliga last season, signed a one-year-contract.
Ernie Hartlieb was replaced by LW/C Brian Felsner who played for Linköpings HC of the Swedish Elitserien and for the Kloten Flyers of the Swiss NLA last season. Felsner was signed to a try-out-contract which gives the Panthers the option to terminate the contract before the start of the season (should Felsner also hurt himself or should he fail to meet the expectations).

Tja, interesting stuff. I wonder if and how well they'll make an impact. Felsner wasn't particularly impressive in his first season in Kassel, but he is experienced here in Europe and may be quite a goodin' for now. Brezina??? I don't see it working, but.....

Now for the Frankfurt Lions:

GOAL:
Gordon - GAA 2,92 / % .902
Ackers - GAA 3,90 / % .880

DEFENSE:
Ratchuk - 8-23-31
Bouchard - 7-17-24
Magnussen - 2-8-10
Stöpfgeschoff - 3-5-8
Klenner - 0-6-6
Bresagk - 1-4-5


OFFENSE:
Lebeau - 18-38-56
Beaucage - 23-30-53
Norris - 16-26-42
Young - 11-29-40
Pronger - 19-18-37
Murphy - 15-16-31
Reichel - 10-12-22
Hackert - 7-14-21
Strakhov - 5-15-20
Sulkovsky - 6-13-19
Rautert - 6-4-10
Kohmann - 3-7-10
Jocher - 2-2-4

***McCarthy - 2-9-11

What's the word on McCarthy? Did he sign? Will he sign?

What's the word on McCarthy? Did he sign? Will he sign?

As far as I know, McCarthy will not be signed to a contract as the Lions were not satisfied with him. The Lions have invited Chris Kelleher to their "training camp" but that seems to be only a kind of temporary solution for their exhibition games. Apparently the Lions are trying to sign a NHL veteran to replace Nolan Baumgartner. According to rumors it could be former Blackhawk Deron Quint.

BTW: The Nuremberg Ice Tigers terminated the contracts of Peter Zingoni and Rene Vydareny and signed Latvian C/RW Herber Vasiljevs.
The Adler Mannheim just announced that Robert Hock signed a contract with the Hannover Scorpions.

Norm Maracle didn´t attend the try-out in Mannheim, too - what a surprise ;)

Krizan and Passmore will be there and Huet is "just" training with the team.

I expect Krizan to get a contract and Huet to get a contract when the lockout comes.

As far as I know, McCarthy will not be signed to a contract as the Lions were not satisfied with him. The Lions have invited Chris Kelleher to their "training camp" but that seems to be only a kind of temporary solution for their exhibition games. Apparently the Lions are trying to sign a NHL veteran to replace Nolan Baumgartner. According to rumors it could be former Blackhawk Deron Quint.

BTW: The Nuremberg Ice Tigers terminated the contracts of Peter Zingoni and Rene Vydareny and signed Latvian C/RW Herber Vasiljevs.
The Adler Mannheim just announced that Robert Hock signed a contract with the Hannover Scorpions.


Good information! Deron Quint would be an interesting pick-up, but he's got his off-ice problems, especially with the bottle - or so I've heard.

I think Vasiljevs is gonna be a real nice pick-up for the Ice Tigers. Don't forget that he's had AHL seasons every bit as good as Haydar and he playes a similar role.

As for Hock in Hannover, I guess that Adler line-up just looked toooo doggone packed for him to get the ice time he seeks. Still, as nice a joker as he might be for the Scorpions, do they really plan on having Öberg-Soccio-Hock as their 1,2,3 centers? Seems like a rather homogenous lefty playmaking group! Still, might be good and maybe Hlushko's injury is more serious than first thought.

By the way, Hannover has 17(!) Förderlizenzen. My ohhh my, how the times have changed!
;)

And now for the Ingolstadt Panthers:

GOAL:
Waite - GAA 2,45 / % .915
Karg - GAA 3,10 / % .900

DEFENSE:
Armstrong - 8-29-37
Ficenec - 12-24-36
Sutton - 8-19-27
Harney - 5-20-25
Burym - 3-10-13
von Stefenelli - 1-10-11
Hilpert - 0-2-2

OFFENSE:
***Sturm - 27-34-61 (if here the whole season)
Mann - 20-27-47
Ast - 17-30-47
Jiranek - 13-19-32
Goodall - 10-21-31
Omicioli - 13-16-29
Ferguson - 12-15-27
Oswald - 7-16-23
Melischko - 7-11-18
Mondt - 5-9-14
Loth - 4-7-11
Polaczek - 4-6-10
Schröder - 1-3-4

And now for the Iserlohn Roosters.

GOAL:
Kotschnew - GAA 3,05 / % .885
Conti - GAA 3,82 / % .880

DEFENSE:
Mitchell - 6-18-24
Knold - 8-11-19
White - 5-10-15
Martin - 4-9-13
Goldmann - 2-6-8
Bernhardt - 0-5-5
Sondermann - 0-0-0

OFFENSE:
***York - 25-32-57 (if here the whole season)
Adams - 18-24-42
Lysak - 12-26-38
Intranuovo - 11-21-32
Higgins - 13-15-28
Alexandrov - 14-12-26
Gordon - 9-12-21
Verwey - 11-8-19
Fritzmeier - 5-1-6
Etz - 1-4-5
Hatterscheid - 3-1-4
Danielsmeier - 2-2-4
Gerbig - 1-1-2
Lotte - 0-0-0

And now for the Kassel Huskies (this is for you Zecke and Bakos:-))

GOAL:
Gage - GAA 2,65 / % .898
Münster - GAA 3,56 / % .870

DEFENSE:
***Liles - 12-25-37 (if here the whole season)
Furey - 5-23-28
Melanson - 9-13-22
Laflamme - 6-12-18
Retzer - 2-12-14
Macholda - 1-11-12
Jones - 0-2-2

OFFENSE:
Swanson - 15-32-47
Corso - 20-22-42
Drury - 18-21-39
Bousquet - 19-17-36
Gosselin - 14-21-35
Abstreiter - 8-20-28
Serikow - 19-8-27
Sychra - 6-12-18
Hammer - 4-10-14
Valenti - 3-6-9
Acker - 3-4-7
Hommel - 2-4-6
Retzer - 1-1-2
Klinge - 0-0-0

This was a while ago, but Jakopin actually is not a bad signing by Augsburg. When you see the guy, you're thinking big oaf that can't skate... be that as it may, he is actually still a decent defender despite average to below-average skating and no offensive skill.

Anymore injury reports on players?

Did Ernie Hartlieb get officially released yet?

Herbert Vasiljevs got cut by Nuremberg? I thought he just signed there a couple days ago.

Why the heck does Hannover have so many players on their roster?

Where are these guys now?:
Christian Lukes (formerly of Augsburg)
Dan Peters (formerly of Frankfurt)
Paul Stanton (formerly of Frankfurt)

This was a while ago, but Jakopin actually is not a bad signing by Augsburg. When you see the guy, you're thinking big oaf that can't skate... be that as it may, he is actually still a decent defender despite average to below-average skating and no offensive skill.

He's only played in one exhibition game until now. Unfortunately he has injured his hand in practice and will be out for at least one week. As he is on a try-out this could possibly mean that he won't make the team. But it's still too early to tell.
Yes, Jakopin's skating is below average. He's extremely slow which could be a big disadvantage on the larger European rinks. But maybe he can make up for that with his incredible range.


Did Ernie Hartlieb get officially released yet?

It's not been made official by the club yet. The information policy of the Panthers is pretty slow at times.But it has been reported in local newspapers. Hartlieb has already left Germany and returned to the States . But he already has been replaced by Felsner.

Herbert Vasiljevs got cut by Nuremberg? I thought he just signed there a couple days ago.

No, Vasiljevs has been signed a couple days ago. It were Rene Vydareny and Peter Zingoni that were released. Vasiljevs apparently was Nuremberg's last signing before the start of the season.

Why the heck does Hannover have so many players on their roster?

I'd like to know that, too.

Where are these guys now?:
Christian Lukes (formerly of Augsburg)
Dan Peters (formerly of Frankfurt)
Paul Stanton (formerly of Frankfurt)

Lukes has participated in the training camp of ESV Kaufbeuren (his first team as a professional hockey player) of the 2. Bundesliga (minor league) but has not been signed to a contract yet. As he has been hampered by injury problems throughout last season, retirement could also be a possibility.
Dan Peters is currently without a contract (as far as I know). Frankfurt has shown no intention to re-sign him.
Paul Stanton has announced his retirement.

Dan Peters has signed a contract with the Atlantic Broadwalk Bullies of the ECHL.

Magro

And now for the Kassel Huskies (this is for your Zecke and Bakos:-))


Nice ;)

I´m not a Hushies-Fan, anyway.
I did watch hockey in Mannheim - since don´t play hockey in Mannheim anymore, i changed my mind and follow the DEL (I´m watching Augsburg a little bit closer, had always a spot for them in my heart).



I have to add something to the Hock-theory :)
It´s rumoured, that "new" Coach DeRaaf talked with all his players and explained his system and listened to what they wanted to play - that´s why Hock and maybe 2 or 3 others left, cause the system of DeRaaf and the style of the players didn´t work that well.
In DeRaaf's system the center plays like quarterback. He has a more defensive role, which doesn´t fit that well to Hock.

btw:
Huet signed a lockout contract with Langnau of the NLA. Huet used his NHL-clause. Langnau signed Corey Hirsch to replace Huet.
Huet is in Mannheim right now and Mannheim had Huet under contract before he left to North America.
I´m sure that Huet will be the starting goaltender, if a lockout is coming. Passmore and Krizan are fighting for the back-up spot.

Reports are going around that Chris Kelleher has signed to come back to the Pittsburgh Penguins.

Anyone know if Peter Baumgartner is still with Ingolstadt? Kevin Colley with Iserlohn?

Reports are going around that Chris Kelleher has signed to come back to the Pittsburgh Penguins.

Anyone know if Peter Baumgartner is still with Ingolstadt? Kevin Colley with Iserlohn?


Kevin Colley has signed a contract with the NY Islanders. However, I'm not sure, if he will play for Iserlohn in the case of a lockout. I doubt that, though.
Peter Baumgartner has a Förderlizenz for Ingolstadt, which means that he actually is on the roster of the Landshut Cannibals (sort of Ingolstadt's "farm team") but would be eligible to play for Ingolstadt if need arises.

And now for the Krefeld Penguine:

GOAL:
Müller - GAA 2,86 / % .888
Janka - GAA 3,36 / % .845

DEFENSE:
Wright - 7-17-24
Kurtz - 4-18-22
Dyck - 5-11-16
Lehoux - 1-10-11
Kunce - 3-7-10
Koettstorfer - 1-4-5
Duck - 0-3-3
Pietta - 0-1-1

OFFENSE:
Selivanov - 23-29-52
Brule - 19-28-47
King - 13-27-40
Guillet - 24-14-38
Herperger - 14-21-35
Ziesche - 8-14-22
Jan - 5-10-15
Grygiel - 7-7-14
Gosdeck - 3-5-8
Schnitzer - 2-2-4
Hyun - 2-0-0

Surely more players on their way.... they must be!

And now for the Cologne Sharks:

GOAL
Rogles - GAA 2,45 / % .915
Greiss - GAA 5,10 / % .850

DEFENSE
Schlegel - 9-31-40
Julien - 12-24-36
Ludemann - 7-20-27
Traynor - 6-14-20
Bjornlie - 3-11-14
Renz - 1-5-6
Hrtska - 0-0-0
Fischer - 0-0-0

FORWARDS
McLlwain - 21-31-52
Roy - 11-36-47
Hicks - 22-21-43
Lewandowski - 14-17-31
Adduono - 16-14-30
Beardsmore - 14-11-25
Seidenberg - 8-16-24
Stefan 9-14-23
Furchner - 11-11-22
Boos - 6-12-18
Blank - 7-10-17
Hart - 1-2-3
Hospelt - 1-1-2
Gogulla 0-0-0
Muller -0-0-0

And now for the Manheim Eagles (now Bakos, I meant *this* one is for you ;) ):

GOAL
???? (Huet, Passmore, Broduer ?)
Aus den Birken - Schn. 3,10 / % 90,0

DEFENSE
Delmore - 18-20-38
Goc - 9-17-26
Groleau - 6-19-25
Joseph - 4-17-21
***Butenschon - 3-12-15 (if he stays for the whole season)
Pyka - 5-8-13
Bakos - 0-4-4
Schutz - 0-0-0

FORWARDS
***Hecht - 31-48-79 (if he stays for the whole season)
Kelly - 18-42-60
Corbet - 27-25-52
Edgerton - 9-39-48
Healey - 23-24-47
Tripp - 17-26-43
Podollan - 21-16-37
Greilinger - 15-19-34
Plante - 8-24-32
Aab - 7-12-19
Ullmann - 4-6-10
Carciola - 6-1-7
Kink - 2-3-5
Blank - 0-2-2

Broduer

What does that mean??? Is Brodeur rumored to come to Mannheim in case of a lockout???
That seems to be a bit far-fetched in my opinion!

What does that mean??? Is Brodeur rumored to come to Mannheim in case of a lockout???
That seems to be a bit far-fetched in my opinion!

Don't worry, I was just seeing if anybody was paying attention:-)
Noooo, there are absolutely no rumors (that I know of) about Brodeur or even any other NHL goalies in Mannheim's current plans. Of course, it is thinkable that one might find his way there in the case of a lockout.
:dunno:

I´m not a Hushies-Fan, anyway.
I did watch hockey in Mannheim - since don´t play hockey in Mannheim anymore, i changed my mind and follow the DEL (I´m watching Augsburg a little bit closer, had always a spot for them in my heart).


Sorry about that, somehow I got you confused with some Huskies fan. I should have known with a screenname like Bakos. Yep, if Hecht stays for a while, there really could be some offensive fireworks in Mannheim this year. 7-4 victories would surely be to the liking of the fans.

I think Augsburg will have it hard and will fight for that playoff spot, but truth be told, on paper all of Hannover, Ingolstadt, Kassel and Düsseldorf look better and deeper, and those are their appearant opponents for the final playoff spots.



I have to add something to the Hock-theory :)
It´s rumoured, that "new" Coach DeRaaf talked with all his players and explained his system and listened to what they wanted to play - that´s why Hock and maybe 2 or 3 others left, cause the system of DeRaaf and the style of the players didn´t work that well. In DeRaaf's system the center plays like quarterback. He has a more defensive role, which doesn´t fit that well to Hock.


I certainly figured as much. Besides, how were they gonna give Hock that ice time when they've got Kelly, Edgerton and Plante there up the middle?


btw:
Huet signed a lockout contract with Langnau of the NLA. Huet used his NHL-clause. Langnau signed Corey Hirsch to replace Huet.
Huet is in Mannheim right now and Mannheim had Huet under contract before he left to North America.
I´m sure that Huet will be the starting goaltender, if a lockout is coming. Passmore and Krizan are fighting for the back-up spot.

Now that is interesting. I'm sure EVERYONE is watching their goaltending situation!