WC QF: May 5 GDT - CZECH REPUBLIC vs. USA 2-3 (OT PS)

Predatore
05-04-2004, 06:12 PM
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Czech Republic vs. USA
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My prediction: 4-2 Czechs

zecke26
05-04-2004, 06:20 PM
could be an interesting game. i don't know what to expect from USA. they're pretty much a gamble.

i say 5-3 czech, because of home advantage and a better performance so far.

e-e
05-04-2004, 07:09 PM
2:1 czechs

go slovakia go :yo: :yo: :yo:

Rabid Ranger
05-04-2004, 11:26 PM
After seeing Canada get womped I don't know what to think about this match-up. I think the Czechs will pull it out, but it won't be a blowout. 5-3, with the 5th goal being an empty netter. If the U.S.'s defense stays tight, whoever's in goal is sharp, and there is timely scoring, the U.S. could surprise.

burnlikestars
05-05-2004, 12:49 AM
Vokoun has been super sharp for the Czechs, we'll see if his old American NHL buddies can fare better against him that the rest of the world has.

golfmade
05-05-2004, 03:07 AM
I'll be wearing my Vokoun jersey. :yo:

Tuggy
05-05-2004, 04:30 AM
Czechs take this one rather easily.... 5-2 Czechs.

mikkoz
05-05-2004, 02:13 PM
Well Czechs should win, they´ve been very impressive so far. Usa can win only if they can keep the home team away from the scoreboard = frustrate them. (And score at least once)

Czech Republic - USA 4-1

rnyquist
05-05-2004, 02:27 PM
Well Czechs should win, they´ve been very impressive so far. Usa can win only if they can keep the home team away from the scoreboard = frustrate them.

Czech Republic - USA 4-1


lol so you mean by keeping the czechs off the score board, the US could in turn win?? what a novel idea!! lol :D

Rabid Ranger
05-05-2004, 03:16 PM
Looks fairly even so far. 15 shots apiece just starting the 2nd period. No score.

Epsilon
05-05-2004, 03:19 PM
2-0 Czechs, Jagr and Skoula with the goals.

devilsfan26
05-05-2004, 03:25 PM
Park just scored, assited by Matt Cullen.

2-1 Czechs

mikkoz
05-05-2004, 04:47 PM
Its 2-2 and penalty shot time!

What a thriller!

Predatore
05-05-2004, 04:49 PM
absolutely excellent game, GO USA!

Predatore
05-05-2004, 04:53 PM
USA WIN!

What an amazing game. Best game of the tournament

mikkoz
05-05-2004, 04:55 PM
Penalty shots

1.round both hit the post
2. round both tryes are saved
3. round both hit the post
4. round both are saved
5. round A Roach scores - Czech(Dopita) no goal

USA wins!

Chevy Cheveldae
05-05-2004, 04:56 PM
wow....Andy Roach, the defenceman makes the cool penalty......and Dopita misses the last one

czechs are stunned ... :amazed:


now USA will face Sweden in the semis

JVR
05-05-2004, 04:56 PM
USA WIN!

What an amazing game. Best game of the tournament

I kind of expected the Czech to lose, it's the pressure of having to win at home!

Jacob
05-05-2004, 05:00 PM
Does that Roach goal count on the stats sheet? What if every player ahead of him had scored on their penalty shots?

SergeiK
05-05-2004, 05:01 PM
That was easyly the best game of tournament. Jan Hlavac will always remember his own goal (2-2 for USA).

Prague must be a quiet place tonight.

BF_Sweden
05-05-2004, 05:01 PM
I feel kind of sorry for the crowd and for the whole Check nation, but I guess its good for Sweden. Foppa against Drury!

Robertsson 4-ever
05-05-2004, 05:05 PM
USA vs Sweden. Interesting matchup, and two teams thata will work hard to get a win. Sweden was the best team last time, but NA teams usually gets better throughout a tournament. Will be a good game!

William H Bonney
05-05-2004, 05:06 PM
USA USA!!!!!!

Hopefully the Americans can get an offensive stud to join the team since it has one roster spot open!

devilsfan26
05-05-2004, 05:11 PM
GO USA!!!!!!! :banana: Too bad we can't watch the games over here. :cry:

MLH
05-05-2004, 05:12 PM
3-4

USA wins in overtime. I have some money on this unlikely scenario :D

Czech: Jágr 2, Rucinsky
USA: Park, Drury, Roach 2(including ot winner)

wow, impressive prediction

SChan*
05-05-2004, 05:20 PM
Sweden Sweden Sweden!

ttnorm
05-05-2004, 05:26 PM
I am stunned! Congrats USA!!! :handclap:

coyotechrisz
05-05-2004, 05:32 PM
YEAH! .. USA USA USA!..

i hope to can also win against Sweden.. but what a nice game .. i think the best of this Championship until now!

aonez
05-05-2004, 05:47 PM
YEAH! .. USA USA USA!..

i hope to can also win against Sweden.. but what a nice game .. i think the best of this Championship until now!

This championships has been really great. Wow, the intensity and heart there is on the ice is incredible.

Bacchus
05-05-2004, 06:07 PM
wow....Andy Roach, the defenceman makes the cool penalty......and Dopita misses the last one

:amazed: I would've never thought a DEL-player can score on such a cool penalty-shot! It was great! :handclap:

wilka91*
05-05-2004, 06:14 PM
In my opinion this game was kinda boring. Not a lot of nice plays ... just Jagr's and Park's goals.

The Czechs were really under pressure and it proved to be too much. That often happens to European teams.

Bacchus
05-05-2004, 06:48 PM
I had him getting the OT winner in my prediction :D

Yeah, I saw it. You were damn close!

I have no problem imagining Andy Roach shooting the OT winner - but I was definatly surprised by his penalty-shot. He literally f***ed Vokoun and was the one (including Drury and Jagr) who deked the goalie out...

Bacchus
05-05-2004, 07:00 PM
Wonder if the rumours of Pittsburgh and Minnesota having scouts in Czech to look at Roach are true...

Really?

Would be cool if he could finally make his way to the NHL...

ttnorm
05-05-2004, 07:55 PM
Really?

Would be cool if he could finally make his way to the NHL...Just the fact that they gave him a spot in the PS means he has caught some important eyes already. I believe he can parlay this into a contract offer and serious look by an NHL team.

Tuggy
05-05-2004, 08:34 PM
All I can say is Wow.

Congrats to the US on what sounds like it was a helluva game! Good luck against the Swedes.

katodelder
05-05-2004, 09:32 PM
Would be interesting to see an all North-American final at the Worlds. Has that ever happened before?

teme
05-06-2004, 01:19 AM
GO USA!!!!!!! :banana: Too bad we can't watch the games over here. :cry:
You sure are missing a lot, that was one entertaining game. I missed the first period, but second was non-stop end to end action. Vokoun was really good, made an amazing save on fellow Predator Hall. I actually thought USA should've replaced Conklin after the second goal, good thing I am not coaching. Biggest difference was US defenceman, really good group of Gill, Miller, Weinrich and ofcourse Roach who has been good all through the games, the shoot-out goal is a nice reward to him. Oh and what is with Cullen? He kept creating chances and made fools out of Czech defence, I had no clue he has moves like that.

ES
05-06-2004, 02:22 AM
Does that Roach goal count on the stats sheet? What if every player ahead of him had scored on their penalty shots?

I'm not sure, but in usual statistics only deciding goal is marked, so the result is Czech 2 - USA 3 no matter are the penalty shot result 0-1 or 9-10.

TK79
05-06-2004, 02:54 AM
Would be interesting to see an all North-American final at the Worlds. Has that ever happened before?

I doubt it, I don't even remember the U.S making it as far as the semi-finals before.. I could be wrong though.. The Czech's choked, pure and simple. They thought they would run away with the game especially once they were up 2-0. But USA just kept working hard and showed a lot of heart.I think it really hurt the Czech team that they only had I game against a top hockey country before the quarters. I doubt USA has much of a chance against Sweden, who have Forsberg and Lidström flying in the game. The Swedes play a much better defensive game than the Czechs, have had stellar goaltending with Lundqvist and will probably score a few on the powerplay with Forsberg, Alfie and Nylander.

The Austrian
05-06-2004, 03:49 AM
YEAHHH! !! SO GREAT !! Congratulations to TEAM USA !!

korben
05-06-2004, 03:50 AM
Would be interesting to see an all North-American final at the Worlds. Has that ever happened before?

All medalists http://www.iihf.com/archive/Ws.pdf

Last time USA and Canada were 1-2 was 1960, Squaw Valley Olympics,
U.S.A. has only two bronzes after that.

Raimo Sillanpää
05-06-2004, 04:27 AM
Isn't Roach undrafted?

*hopes some SM-Liiga team signs him up, he'd look good here..

Rob
05-06-2004, 04:40 AM
I think most Euro hockey fans would really loathe an all North American final if it happens.

GG#60
05-06-2004, 05:20 AM
All I can say is Wow.

Congrats to the US on what sounds like it was a helluva game! Good luck against the Swedes.

Yes it was a really good game, surely the best one i have seen so far in this WC.
The US played better than the czechs and deserved the win. They started off better and had some good chances, not on their horrible 5 on 3 powerplay though. The Czechs replied with 2 goals and it seemed they would skate away with the win as they did so often before.

The US continued to play with grit - Grier and Weinrich led by example - and never gave up.
The tying goal in the 3rd was really bad, it was Havlat i think, who tried to intercept a pass coming from the boards. He ended up scoring past a stunned Vokoun from 10 feet out.

The shootout was a heartbreaker with 2 posts on either side. Jagr tried the same move he made at the Allstar Game shootout and hit the left post.
Nice deke by Roach for the winner.

aonez
05-06-2004, 05:22 AM
Yeah, I´d definitely watch it to.

Marksman
05-06-2004, 05:48 AM
That was easyly the best game of tournament. Jan Hlavac will always remember his own goal (2-2 for USA).

Prague must be a quiet place tonight.

That was a textbook tip-in shot if I ever saw one.=)

Well, atleast he didnt celebrate like the japanese guy scoring winner in his own net.

endacka
05-06-2004, 06:37 AM
Well, what to say... sad, sad evening for Czech hockey.

The first lost and it came in the most important game on the whole tournament. I was impressed by the US performance in this game. Their forchecking was really very good and worked well for them, there were able to create plenty of good scoring chances, sure more than Czechs. On the other hand, Czechs did not play the way they played against Canada, didnt skate that well and were unable to pass the puck and outplay the US team. The US played tough defence, hard hitting, overall very good and FAIR (not like Canada squad) game. They were better and deserved the win.

Congratulations and good luck.

endacka
05-06-2004, 07:20 AM
Did you see if the US played a more zonal or man to man marking game defensively? In the match against Finland it was back and forth....


It was a lot about skating, I did not suppose the US players to skate THAT well, there were almost none 2on1 or 3on2 situations, they played really well in the neutral and in their own zones. Vokoun played a great game, if there were not his incredible saves against plenty of US chances, it would have been over in the after the first. Czechs had troubles getting over the blue line, most of their attacks were stopped there or even in the neutral zone. If the US team plays like that in the semis, I believe they will go to the finals.

txpd
05-06-2004, 08:06 AM
This finishes off a great year for Jagr. The worst record in the NHL was the combined record of the games he played in. He was part of the dismantling of two of rosters of the biggest stars in the NHL. Now his hometown hero Czech Rep team goes down in flames in the quarters. whew. how the great have fallen.

Marksman
05-06-2004, 08:48 AM
Theres one thing I've been wondering... can some one explain me why did Czech coach make such strange choises as his penalty shooters. Watching the game I made my own quick list, which ended up being almost completely different.

Jagr was no-brainer, putting him on the list I can easily understand. But Dopita? Vyborny? Young guy Prucha in pressure situation like that? Havlat, who was very much no-show, pointless in three games?

Why not Rucinsky, Straka, Prospal and maybe Beranek? :dunno:

GermanDevil
05-06-2004, 10:23 AM
Andy Andy Andy Andy Roach !!! :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:


This is my jersey... ;)
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BruinsGirl
05-06-2004, 10:42 AM
Anybody noticed Andy Hillbert? How did he play?

endacka
05-06-2004, 10:57 AM
Theres one thing I've been wondering... can some one explain me why did Czech coach make such strange choises as his penalty shooters. Watching the game I made my own quick list, which ended up being almost completely different.

Jagr was no-brainer, putting him on the list I can easily understand. But Dopita? Vyborny? Young guy Prucha in pressure situation like that? Havlat, who was very much no-show, pointless in three games?

Why not Rucinsky, Straka, Prospal and maybe Beranek? :dunno:


Vyborny is I think 3of3 PS in his NHL career and has very good hands. Prucha is not known to anyone in NA so far, so the goalie could not have known what he would do. Besides he has great hands as well, if I were the coach, he would be my chiose too.
Dopita was really stupid choise, I do not understand at all why he was chosen or maybe he just believed, he would score, often it is about self confidence of the player.
Totally agree that Straka and Rucinsky would be better picks than Dopita and Havlat, who was invisible in all three games he played, suppose it was due to the flu he had just a few days ago, he lost 5 kilos of his weight.

But as I said before, US were better and deserved the win.

Rabid Ranger
05-06-2004, 11:21 AM
Andy Andy Andy Andy Roach !!! :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:


This is my jersey... ;)
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That's a pretty sweet jersey. Somehow I don't mind the advertising. It adds some character. SAP is a program I've used at work! :lol

FAL
05-06-2004, 01:22 PM
Prucha is not known to anyone in NA so far, so the goalie could not have known what he would do

Then Team USA was lucky Vokoun didn't know Andy Roach. he pulled off excactly the same move every time i watched him shoot a penalty which happened pretty often as there's a penalty shoot-out after regulation in german hockey league. yet i enjoyed seeing him score the deciding penalty on an all-star goalie

endacka
05-06-2004, 02:58 PM
Then Team USA was lucky Vokoun didn't know Andy Roach. he pulled off excactly the same move every time i watched him shoot a penalty which happened pretty often as there's a penalty shoot-out after regulation in german hockey league. yet i enjoyed seeing him score the deciding penalty on an all-star goalie


I had never heard of the guy named Andy Roach before the Chaps. but I think everybody here, in the Czech republic will not forget his name for a long time, especially Vokoun will not. Also I must say I DID NOT enjoy his penalty shot at all even though it was done really well. :banghead:

Shane
05-07-2004, 05:05 AM
Wow. I'm still in shock. I had the Czechs pegged to win this tournament.

Sparky
05-07-2004, 05:59 AM
Andy Andy Andy Andy Roach !!! :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:


This is my jersey... ;)
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I picked S. Goc for this year's Mannheim jersey for me. I'm definitely getting Andy's for next year, if I can.
Edit: Oh, and Roach has a number of moves, at least that I've seen. Periodically he even tries to play sniper with a snap-shot 5 hole.

GermanDevil
05-07-2004, 09:15 PM
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