WC Group E: May 2 GDT - Canada vs. Germany (6-1)

Predatore
05-01-2004, 06:43 PM
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Canada vs. Germany
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My prediction: 3-2 Canada

canucksfan
05-01-2004, 08:12 PM
2-2 Canada always has problems with Germany.

StevieYdabest
05-01-2004, 10:14 PM
I don't usually do this but what the hell why not. Since everyone knows they play Canada tough I'm gonna say 4-0 Canada :D . Since most expected them to pounce all over the other teams but didn't, they will pounce on Germany because most expect it to be a very close game.

Obsessed
05-01-2004, 10:52 PM
If Kolzig is in the nets then it will be 2-2 if not then 4-2

GermanHockeyRulez
05-02-2004, 05:24 AM
2:2
Hecht,Lewandowski
Smyth,Morris

Auf gehts Deutschland!

VanCanuck
05-02-2004, 06:53 AM
Olie will be great between the pipes for the germans.
But I'm a homer... Canada wins...result doesn't count!

SChan*
05-02-2004, 07:21 AM
Canada hasn't met any quality opponent yet.

The Austrian
05-02-2004, 08:47 AM
Canada hasn't met any quality opponent yet.


muahahaha :banghead:

canda 6 : 1 germany

Bud The Spud*
05-02-2004, 11:15 AM
4-2 Canada

LoudmouthHemskyFan#2
05-02-2004, 01:56 PM
What time does this game start?

The Austrian
05-02-2004, 02:08 PM
What time does this game start?


in 7 minutes

The Austrian
05-02-2004, 02:26 PM
Canada Scores !!

Powerplay Goal by Morris! He gets his own rebound, skates around the goal and shoots it in the emtpy net ( kolzig was lying on the other side)

incawg
05-02-2004, 02:29 PM
2-0 canada, germany getting dominated so far

MillerTime
05-02-2004, 02:30 PM
Canada Scores !!

Powerplay Goal by Morris! He gets his own rebound, skates around the goal and shoots it in the emtpy net ( kolzig was lying on the other side)

Actually it was Daniel Briere...Morris got an assist

The Austrian
05-02-2004, 02:31 PM
danny heatley over the glove from kolzig. right under the crossbar !

incawg
05-02-2004, 02:35 PM
heatley again! 3-0 :yo:

The Austrian
05-02-2004, 02:36 PM
3:0 PP Goal !!! again heatley !! gets the rebound, right in front of kolzig. beats the german goalie over the stick hand...

rbeeler
05-02-2004, 02:39 PM
is there a streaming online radio station where I can listen to this game?

zecke26
05-02-2004, 02:43 PM
the play of team germany annoys me. they're so weak, where are the guys who fought hard yesterday?

canada looks good so far, didn't expect that.

JVR
05-02-2004, 02:46 PM
God, I'm glad I'm not able to watch today!

lUkAz
05-02-2004, 02:46 PM
3-2 Canada.

Canada:
Briere
Heatley 2

Germany:
Hecht
Ustorf
good prediction

The Austrian
05-02-2004, 02:46 PM
where are the guys who fought hard yesterday?
.

maybe still in a pub, celebreating the victory....
:banana: :banana:

Ocelot
05-02-2004, 02:47 PM
Man that first goal my Danny was AMAZING!

zecke26
05-02-2004, 02:49 PM
maybe still in a pub, celebreating the victory....
:banana: :banana:

nah, beating austria is nothing special. :p:

and wasn't it your team that had some pub-trouble? ;)

gopher
05-02-2004, 02:53 PM
nah, beating austria is nothing special. :p:


poor guy
:help:

The Austrian
05-02-2004, 02:55 PM
and wasn't it your team that had some pub-trouble? ;)

LAST YEAR DUDE!!

today you see how hard it is to play to big games in 2 days. yesterday we were tired, today the piefkes...

zecke26
05-02-2004, 02:59 PM
today you see how hard it is to play to big games in 2 days. yesterday we were tired, today the piefkes...

i don't think it's so hard to play 2 games in 2 days. but team germany isn't willing to fight today. they look like figure skaters.
and austria were tired yesterday? ehm...not really. it's just that if you take out vanek, there's not enough left to play top10 hockey, although i like what austria did the last years and there are some nice guys. but it's too early for austria, in a few years it should be different.

JVR
05-02-2004, 03:00 PM
Is Ullmann playing today?

JVR
05-02-2004, 03:01 PM
it's just that if you take out vanek, there's not enough left to play top10 hockey.

Don't forget Kalt, he should come back to the DEL, he's a great player!

The Austrian
05-02-2004, 03:02 PM
although i like what austria did the last years and there are some nice guys. but it's too early for austria, in a few years it should be different.

i hope that... but we have the wrong coach... pock is an idiot... noone likes him..
:mad:

zecke26
05-02-2004, 03:03 PM
Don't forget Kalt, he should come back to the DEL, he's a great player!

like i said, some nice players. but kalt isn't a top guy either. and yes, i'd like to see him back in the DEL.

Predatore
05-02-2004, 03:03 PM
Don't forget Kalt, he should come back to the DEL, he's a great player!

Agreed, he is a good player when playing on top of his game. However, his season is Sweden was terrible. There are some loose rumours he'll sign with another SEL team but I wouldn't be surprised if he moves to the DEL or NLA.

zecke26
05-02-2004, 03:06 PM
i hope that... but we have the wrong coach... pock is an idiot... noone likes him..
:mad:

can't say something about him, cause i never noticed him before, but from what i heard the last days, he seems not to be a good coach.

but i'm no fan of hans zach either.

The Austrian
05-02-2004, 03:06 PM
trade rumors in austria say, that he allready singed a contract in vienna...

zecke26
05-02-2004, 03:08 PM
Is Ullmann playing today?

haven't noticed him so far, but iihf.com says he's playing with kathan and ustorf.

The Austrian
05-02-2004, 03:14 PM
4:0 canada - scott niedermayr. 3 PP Canada - 3 Goals....

pass from behind the goal ( gretzky like ) and niedermayr beats kolzig from 3 meters over the stick hand...

SwisshockeyAcademy
05-02-2004, 03:16 PM
The one problem i have with Zach is that he feels Kunce can handle some of the worlds top players. Kunce seems to lose his mind playing Canada and take many penalties. Why Zach does him the disservice of playing against Heatley i have no idea.

canucksfan
05-02-2004, 03:17 PM
Canada is playing much better today. Heatley's goal was awesome.

zecke26
05-02-2004, 03:17 PM
wouldn't it be time to pull kolzig and bring in whoever is backup (i guess mueller)? not that the goals were his fault, altho he should have saved at least two, but he should be sick of the defense by now and this is not the best thing when you want to prevent goals.

boy, why can't they stay out of the box?

zecke26
05-02-2004, 03:19 PM
The one problem i have with Zach is that he feels Kunce can handle some of the worlds top players. Kunce seems to lose his mind playing Canada and take many penalties. Why Zach does him the disservice of playing against Heatley i have no idea.

i totally agree. kunce shouldn't be on that team. he interfered kolzig on goal 1, maybe olie would have saved it otherwise.

zecke26
05-02-2004, 03:21 PM
wow, goal germany, andi renz. time to fight and try to make the loss a bit more pleasant.

lUkAz
05-02-2004, 03:21 PM
4-1 :D Hecht scores... =)

The Austrian
05-02-2004, 03:22 PM
Who made he pass?

brendan morrison


goal for germany. jochen hecht through the legs of gigi. shoot by renz and hecht touched the puck right in front of gigi

zecke26
05-02-2004, 03:26 PM
what a chance by kreutzer, he should have made it. a 2nd goal would be nice. they seem to play better now.

zecke26
05-02-2004, 03:30 PM
DEFENSE???

and kolzig looks shaky. pull him, zach!!!

The Austrian
05-02-2004, 03:31 PM
5:1 Rob Niedermayr !! like the 4:0 ... pass from smith, niedermayr is nearly alone and sinks the puck right under kolzig in the net.. when will kolzig leave the goal ??

EHCler
05-02-2004, 03:41 PM
horrible defensive play by Germany, like freeking youth team. If Canada would push up another gear they would score 10 goals plus. Our goal difference is really gonna stink after this game which means we need to beat the Swiss. If we play like today no chance of doing that.
By far Germanys worst game of the tournament.

SwisshockeyAcademy
05-02-2004, 03:48 PM
Agreed this is a woeful performance from the Germans. Love Benda and he's been good but i think Ehrhoff, Seidenberg and Schubert will give the team a more mobile and better puck moving effort in September. Leask, Retzer, Kunce will be fighting for a spot or two. Not sure about Molling and i'm fine with Ludemann. Will Zach change to a more up tempo game with more talent at his disposal?

zecke26
05-02-2004, 03:59 PM
Agreed this is a woeful performance from the Germans. Love Benda and he's been good but i think Ehrhoff, Seidenberg and Schubert will give the team a more mobile and better puck moving effort in September. Leask, Retzer, Kunce will be fighting for a spot or two. Not sure about Molling and i'm fine with Ludemann. Will Zach change to a more up tempo game with more talent at his disposal?

luedemann is ok, retzer is doing what he can, but leask, kunce and especially molling should be out. i'd choose goldmann over those three. molling is by far the worst player i've seen for a long time. he's clutching and grabbing just not to fall on his butt, he simply can't skate.

The Austrian
05-02-2004, 04:19 PM
6:1 Scott Niedermayr - Slapshot over the Stick Hand - Kolzig Drinkingbottle flips on the Ice... :D

EHCler
05-02-2004, 04:25 PM
luedemann is ok, retzer is doing what he can, but leask, kunce and especially molling should be out. i'd choose goldmann over those three. molling is by far the worst player i've seen for a long time. he's clutching and grabbing just not to fall on his butt, he simply can't skate.

Yeah in defense there need to be changes. Seids and Erhoff would really give this team a nice addition and Sascha Goc and Schubert could not do worse than Molling Leask and Kunce. Luedemann also has had better tournaments
There are just to many 3rd liners playing for our team, we are lacking speed and skill. Goc and Sturm would be able to provide that. But I think we have to live with these players for now. I hope next year maybe Zach gives some of our young defenders the chance to prove themselves, even so they still may lack experience.

popperbolt*
05-03-2004, 06:30 AM
muahahaha :banghead:

canda 6 : 1 germany

good call :joker:

Sanderson
05-03-2004, 06:37 AM
If only Soccio hadn't retired right before the WC. He may be old, but he is still one of the better scorers in Germany. Losing Hynes and Sascha Goc hurt, too.

It's hard to imagine, considering the strenght of the other nations, but I think our World Cup team will fare better than the WC-team now.

The Austrian
05-03-2004, 07:07 AM
good call :joker:


Me = God :yo: :yo:

SwisshockeyAcademy
05-03-2004, 04:55 PM
If only Soccio hadn't retired right before the WC. He may be old, but he is still one of the better scorers in Germany. Losing Hynes and Sascha Goc hurt, too.

It's hard to imagine, considering the strenght of the other nations, but I think our World Cup team will fare better than the WC-team now.
Where is Sasha? Soccio was an excellent player and could no doubt still contribute.

Sanderson
05-03-2004, 05:43 PM
He is ill, or at least he was before the tournament.
He missed some games because of the flu and it didn't get better, although he returned for some games in the playoffs. He decided to stay at home until he has completely recovered.

At least that's what I heard. Someone from Mannheim should know...

Tronador
05-03-2004, 06:00 PM
I couldn't understand why our coach Zach has nominated Kunce,Smazal and Molling......Martin Walter,Alexander Sulzer,Lasse Kopitz are much better and younger.

SwisshockeyAcademy
05-09-2004, 03:32 AM
Kunce and Molling just don't have it. I like Sulzer more than Walter if he's in shape. Walter plays a pretty steady game though, not as physical as Kunce and Sulzer but without the pure stupidity of Kunce. Kunce means well he just is not top level.