Calder Cup Division Semifinals: (1) Hamilton vs (4) Cleveland

Cleveland Barons v. Hamilton Bulldogs
2004 Calder Cup Playoffs

Schedule
Game 1 - Tue., Apr. 20 - Cleveland at Hamilton, 7:00
Game 2 - Sun., Apr. 25 - Cleveland at Hamilton, 4:00
Game 3 - Tue., Apr. 27 - Hamilton at Cleveland, 7:00
Game 4 - Thu., Apr. 29 - Hamilton at Cleveland, 7:00
*Game 5 - Fri., Apr. 30 - Cleveland at Hamilton, 7:00
*Game 6 - Sun., May 2 - Hamilton at Cleveland, 4:00
*Game 7 - Mon., May 3 - Cleveland at Hamilton, 7:00

Results
Hamilton wins the series 4-2.
Game 1 - Cleveland 0 - Hamilton 4 | Full Boxscore (http://www.pointstreak.com/framed/prostats/boxscore.html?gameid=109215)
Game 2 - Cleveland 4 - Hamilton 3 (OT) | Full Boxscore (http://www.pointstreak.com/framed/prostats/boxscore.html?gameid=109216)
Game 3 - Hamilton 5 - Cleveland 3 | Full Boxscore (http://www.pointstreak.com/framed/prostats/boxscore.html?gameid=109217)
Game 4 - Hamilton 4 - Cleveland 3 | Full Boxscore (http://www.pointstreak.com/framed/prostats/boxscore.html?gameid=109218)
Game 5 - Cleveland 4 - Hamilton 1 | Full Boxscore (http://www.pointstreak.com/framed/prostats/boxscore.html?gameid=109219)
Game 6 - Hamilton 3 - Cleveland 1 | Full Boxscore (http://www.pointstreak.com/framed/prostats/boxscore.html?gameid=109220)

Go Dogs Go !! :yo: :banana: :jump:


If their goaltending holds up, which I have my doubts, cause Damphousse has had trouble putting together a string of good games, but if their goaltending holds up, they stand a good chance of going far. Their offense is strong, the defense is average and their goaltending can be good or average at times.

I look forward to game 2.

If their goaltending holds up, which I have my doubts, cause Damphousse has had trouble putting together a string of good games

If there's anything the Barons are stellar on, it's getting right back on the horse. Only twice this season have we lost 2 straight regulation games. Ought to be a big shootout after this 5 day rest too. I'm lovin' playoff hockey. :D

Barons bounce back in grand fashion, another overtime victory thanks to little man Shane Joseph! Comin' home now. :handclap:

Glad to see Patrick Rissmiller finally get a playoff point. :banana: Now, if he could just score a goal.......time to kick those positive vibes into overdrive. ;)

Got lucky to score three goals in game three, another rebound opportunity on Thursday. :)

Hamilton's offense is their strength, lucky for them they are geting decent goaltending from the sounds of it, cause it has been a weak spot for them throughout the season. Thrusday is a huge game, dogs win and the series is in their control, barons, win and it's a new series.

Hamilton's offense is their strength, lucky for them they are geting decent goaltending from the sounds of it, cause it has been a weak spot for them throughout the season. Thrusday is a huge game, dogs win and the series is in their control, barons, win and it's a new series.Yeah, if we can just shut down Perezhogin, Beauchemin, Plekanec and Hainsey, I think the Bulldogs will be dead in the water. Unfortunately we're relying on our goaltender, who can't possibly save the game when he has no defense in front of him and is facing 40 shots a night.

Also, since you're a Hamilton fan and follower, let me ask you something... What do you think of Benoit Gratton? I have my opinions, but I'm just curious.

Hamilton offensive talent is so great and if Perezhogin and Higgins continue their progression not much teams will be able to defeat Hamilton. pretty amazing team.. only weak spot is on the net.

Yeah, if we can just shut down Perezhogin, Beauchemin, Plekanec and Hainsey, I think the Bulldogs will be dead in the water. Unfortunately we're relying on our goaltender, who can't possibly save the game when he has no defense in front of him and is facing 40 shots a night.

Also, since you're a Hamilton fan and follower, let me ask you something... What do you think of Benoit Gratton? I have my opinions, but I'm just curious.


Plekanec and Perezhogin won't be easy to shut down, as they were the top scoreres on the team, but your right, if you do shut them down, your in a lot better shape. I would add Chris Higgins as well, cause he can go unnoticed, but plays a smart and effective game. Even Hossa and Milroy can put up points. Beauchemin and Hainsey are the shooters, they generate a lot of shots, especially Beauchemin who is the dogs #1 defensemen. I would key on him more and pressure Hainsey, who seems to have brains made of swiss chesse.

Also our goaltending should cave at some point. I've said it a number of times on the Habs board, as the goaltending has cost the team several games this year, but so far Damphousse has been solid. I still think the Barons can get to him, but since the damn games are on the exact time as the Habs games are on, I haven't caught as much of the series as I would like to.

As for Gratton, he's one of the better players in the AHL cause he can put up points, play in all situations, and is a competitive player. But he hurt us big time 2 years ago by taking too many stupid penalties, and from what I've heard he is always crying to the refs. Since he came back from injury later in the year, it sounds like he hasn't been as effective. Last year before his injury, he was starting to run away with the scoring title in the AHL, but the guy just can not stay healthy. He's the kind of player I don't really care for, but I'm glad that Andre Savard went and picked him up to add some veteran leadership, considering we have 6 rookies in the lineup and another 3 in the press box. Hamilton is a very young team, so having him around is good even if he isn't bringing as much offense as he can.

As for Gratton, he's one of the better players in the AHL cause he can put up points, play in all situations, and is a competitive player. But he hurt us big time 2 years ago by taking too many stupid penalties, and from what I've heard he is always crying to the refs.

That's what he does best. Even though he's the captain, I've never seen anyone else complain as much as BG. Well, nothing left now but the end of the series, as Cleveland collapses in the third to drop it 4-3. Taking the road trip tonight to Hamilton for Game Five. :help:

Perezhogin may well have shut himself down with that shot on Stafford. Really sad when stuff like this happens. I wish Stafford a speedy and full recovery.

Perezhogin may well have shut himself down with that shot on Stafford. Really sad when stuff like this happens. I wish Stafford a speedy and full recovery.

As do I...I just saw the incident on ESPNNEWS, and OH MY ******* GOD, that was worse than McSorley and Bertuzzi combined!

Perezhogin suspended indefintely http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=82347

I'd hate to turn this into another Perezhogin/Stafford thread, as the hit tarnished a great Barons win. Three powerplay goals and 32 saves by Schaefer ought to keep rolling in the momentum Sunday night.

Wow...i hate to sound harsh, but the Barons coach is right...Perezhogin really should not play hockey in North America again, not only because of the disgusting nature of the hit, but also to show everyone that stuff like that will not be tolerated.

The sight of a player's legs convulsing uncontrollably because another player undertook an act that could have killed him is one of the worst things i have ever seen.

The single most disgusting act I have ever seen in any sport. Bertuzzi thing not comparable, Brashear thing certainly not comparable, beanballs not comparable. I hope he gets a N. American ban and jail time. What a ****ing *******.

Yes Perezhogin should get suspended.

Although the victim did take a swing at Perezhogin's head first. He missed by an inch or two. And if you look at the tape, when Perezhogin began swinging, the guy had his back turned. He was turning around AS Perezhogin's stick was coming. It was done in the heat of the moment and Perezhogin was not aiming for the guy's face.

Meanwhile, Bertuzzi's was premeditated. He stalked his victim. Mcsorly's too. He came up to Brashear and aimed clearly for his head.

Again Perzhogin ought to be suspended but it wasn't as bad as Bertuzzi's or Mcsorly's.

:jump:

as a habs fan that was watching a young rebuilding team this year this incident really hurts.

as was mentioned intent will be considered so i don't think that there is a chance that he would be permanently banned from north american hockey unless there is jail time. however, he will likely be suspended for somewhere up to a year. in the bertuzzi incident in the nhl they took moore's recovery into consideration in the punishment - maybe they will do the same in the ahl here.

Anyone have a video of this?

Anyone have a video of this?

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=75064&page=2

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Yes Perezhogin should get suspended.

Although the victim did take a swing at Perezhogin's head first. He missed by an inch or two. And if you look at the tape, when Perezhogin began swinging, the guy had his back turned. He was turning around AS Perezhogin's stick was coming. It was done in the heat of the moment and Perezhogin was not aiming for the guy's face.


You have absolutely no way of ascertaining that. You're making assumptions about what was in the guy's head at the time he started swinging. Don't you think that if he had just wanted to smack the guy on the chest pads, it would have been pretty hard to miss, even if the guy was moving? His intent was exactly what it appeared to be: swing at the guy's head in a fit of retribution.

Meanwhile, Bertuzzi's was premeditated. He stalked his victim.

Premeditation only requires a second or two of thought. You cannot exclude the liklihood of premeditation because it only happened over the course of say 7 or 8 seconds. It was premeditated IMO. Nobody has to sit there and ponder whether swinging a stick - baseball bat style - at an opponent's upper extremities is a good idea. You know it's a criminal act before you do it, and you know what the results are going to be if you make contact. He did it anyway, knowing full-well the consequences.

Furthermore, whatever Bertuzzi did, he did it with his fist, gloves on. The vertebral injuries were a resulting of his weight coming down on Moore in an awkward position. You CAN make a very convincing argument that that particular part of Moore's injuries was NOT premeditated by Bertuzzi. I don't think anyone believes he knew he was going to fracture Steve Moore's neck. At worst he was trying to knock the guy out, boxing style.

Either way, I'll take my chances with Bertuzzi's glove to the back of my head anyday, over someone taking a full-on swing with a stick while I'm lying on the ice with nowhere to go. It's not even REMOTELY close or debateable IMO.

Even McSorely's wasn't as bad because he did not take a huge sweeping swing with his stick. Had he done so, Brashear would probably be dead right now and IT would be the worst thing we had ever seen, this one a close second.

Well, time to close up shop on this here thread. Bulldogs cap off the Barons tonight 3-1. First one was garbage thanks to 6 men on the ice, and the Barons never recovered. At least no one was seriously injured tonight. GO ROCHESTER! :handclap: