http://capgeek.com/

3 year deal, $737,500 per year

http://www3.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/nicolas_deschamps

Edit: Also on OC register blog; http://ducks.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/16/ducks-sign-center-deschamps/16443/

http://www3.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/nicolas_deschamps

they have listed as the ducks 10th best prospect... says

Talent Analysis

A scoring forward with a bevy of offensive skills, Deschamps creates chances with his speed and ability to make plays at high speed. Effective at both ends of the ice, his soft hands and quick release make him a dangerous attacker, but his lack of strength and absence of gritty play at times limits his usefulness and leads to bouts of inconsistency.

How long until this kid is in the big league?

Interesting that they signed him now considering the AHL situation.

I know that Bonino was not signed because of that (in OCRegister).

Interesting that they signed him now considering the AHL situation.

I know that Bonino was not signed because of that (in OCRegister).

So, we got nothing out of that trade?

Interesting that they signed him now considering the AHL situation.

I know that Bonino was not signed because of that (in OCRegister).

Actually, it was the other way around. Bonino didn't accept the Ducks' offer because of the AHL situation (according to a blog at the OCRegister (http://ducks.freedomblogging.com/2009/06/22/ducks-minor-league-uncertainty-keeps-bonino-in-school/15101/)).

Smart kid there to want to have consistency in coaching, players, travel, and play. It will make his development that much better instead of switching coaches or coaches who have favoritism to their own players/NHL club.

Yikes, the NHL club needs to get on it to find their own AHL club asap! I'd doubt Burkie would stand for mixed crowd.

So, we got nothing out of that trade?
No, it just means Bonino returned to school for another year. He remains Ducks property.

Cap-wise, there's a benefit to signing your junior prospects early. Some sort of bonus for that season (signing I believe, not performance) does not slide with the cap hit if the player is sent down to juniors. The remaining (signing? whatever) bonus is then divided over the length of the contract, resulting in some (very small, less than 10%) cap savings.

As long as you're sure that you want the player signed (ie not a bust), it's best to sign him as soon as you can even if you intend for them to play in juniors for a year or two more.

Interesting that they signed him now considering the AHL situation.

I know that Bonino was not signed because of that (in OCRegister).

He still has a year left of junior eligibility so his contract really is intended for the 2010-2011 season. Most of our junior prospects get signed a year before they play pro hockey. Festerling was signed two years before.

No, it just means Bonino returned to school for another year. He remains Ducks property.

So, even though doesn't have a contract with the Ducks, nobody else can offer him one, correct?

So, even though doesn't have a contract with the Ducks, nobody else can offer him one, correct?

Yes. No different than any other unsigned prospect we have.

The Ducks organization needs to find a farm team soon. Any suggestions?

The Ducks organization needs to find a farm team soon. Any suggestions?

We're not going to. We'll have to loan our boys to like 3 or 4 different teams. It sucks but it's what's going to happen.

Cap-wise, there's a benefit to signing your junior prospects early. Some sort of bonus for that season (signing I believe, not performance) does not slide with the cap hit if the player is sent down to juniors. The remaining (signing? whatever) bonus is then divided over the length of the contract, resulting in some (very small, less than 10%) cap savings.

As long as you're sure that you want the player signed (ie not a bust), it's best to sign him as soon as you can even if you intend for them to play in juniors for a year or two more.

I would think the benefit would be to signing them late, or at least after the age of twenty since unrestricted free agency comes seven years after the signing of that first contract, and you'd be getting less NHL time out of them.

with how crazy 2nd contracts have been, its probably best to get them up for free agency ASAP, before they start to really excel. like if B Ryan was due for free agency this year Ducks would probably save some dough since he's gonna whoop ass next year.

The Ducks organization needs to find a farm team soon. Any suggestions?

Read somewhere the Chops may be sold and the new owner would be more secure financially so those issues would be solved and they might get their franchise back.

I would think the benefit would be to signing them late, or at least after the age of twenty since unrestricted free agency comes seven years after the signing of that first contract, and you'd be getting less NHL time out of them.
You're partially right. Like you said, if you're under 20 and play in the NHL (or the AHL, which is only possible if you're drafted from Europe or high school/NCAA), then the UFA ticker starts counting. It has for Sbisa.

However if you're under 20 and sent to juniors with a contract, it doesn't count toward UFA. We get QP until he's 27, even though we signed him earlier (19 I think?).

It doesn't hurt to give the kid some signing bonus money so he isn't eating mac and cheese. I am sure Deschamps is returning to juniors unless he can knock some socks off at training camp.

So, even though doesn't have a contract with the Ducks, nobody else can offer him one, correct?

Since he's in the NCAA, he can stay all four years at his respective college or come out early if he wants. The club (whoever drafted the player) will own their rights for all four years if the player decides to stay all four years at the college/university. Mitera elected to stay at Michigan for all four of his years.

Juniors are similar, but the playing span is shorter.

If the drafted player isn't signed, then the player can re-enter the draft again. This has happened to the Ducks before by Tim Brent (I think that's him).

I forgot to mention. Deschamps = part of Penner "trade." Let's hope he does well, both because he's our prospect and because it'll piss off Edmonton.

I forgot to mention. Deschamps = part of Penner "trade." Let's hope he does well, both because he's our prospect and because it'll piss off Edmonton.

Thanks for the replies guys.

Snark, always looking for the jab at the Oil, I like it, keep up the good work.

I forgot to mention. Deschamps = part of Penner "trade." Let's hope he does well, both because he's our prospect and because it'll piss off Edmonton.

To be honest, I wouldn't trade Deschamps for Penner straight up already. That contract is just too damn bad.

was odell part of the penner "trade" too?

Gardiner
O'dell
Schultz
Deschamps

Which means the loss of Penner lead to us getting Christensen. Damn you, Lowe.

The Ducks organization needs to find a farm team soon. Any suggestions?

they should go back to cincy.

Gardiner
O'dell
Schultz
Deschamps
The alternate appraisal which may or may not bring more angst is Tyler Myers, Shultz, and Kirill Petrov.

And 4.25 million in cap space.

Thanks for the replies guys.

Snark, always looking for the jab at the Oil, I like it, keep up the good work.
I don't have much against the Oilers themselves. Lowe is kind of an idiot, especially with the Comrie thing. It's just the fanbase that's so amusingly deluded. That a) Penner would grow to become a bargain b) He was a future 40 goal, 70 point player c) there wasn't any risk in that contract and we were dumb for not wanting to match it d) the picks had no chance of becoming as good as Penner would become.

And my favorite: e) that eliminating the 2nd contract and raising the bar for RFA resignings is good for a team that can't sign any UFAs... because now UFAs would have to sign in Edmonton, and for cheap. That I was totally wrong in pointing out that it would make re-signing their own RFAs (who will make up the majority of the team since they can't sign UFAs) tougher and in the end hurt their own team more than others. Yup, Lowe was brilliant in changing the UFA/RFA landscape for the betterment of their team.

I don't have much against the Oilers themselves. Lowe is kind of an idiot, especially with the Comrie thing. It's just the fanbase that's so amusingly deluded. That a) Penner would grow to become a bargain b) He was a future 40 goal, 70 point player c) there wasn't any risk in that contract and we were dumb for not wanting to match it d) the picks had no chance of becoming as good as Penner would become.

There was another argument that said that you're supposed to overpay on offer sheets, and that's justification in and of itself for doing so.

Speaking of upcoming offer sheets...oh hi Kane and Toews....how are you? Kane is from Buffalo originally....just saying...