09/10 Point Projections

Post your point predictions for Ducks players next season.

Getzlaf - 93
Perry - 69
Ryan - 67
Selanne - 58
Koivu - 56
Lupul - 48
Ebbett - 38

Niedermayer - 52
Whitney - 43
Wisniewski - 36

Getzy - 106
Perry - 81
Ryan - 84

Teemu - 74
Koivu - 72
Lupul - 59

Scotty - 61
Whitney - 45

Just going to do the top six, although I think if we go with a 3rd scoring line, Christensen will get 30+ pts if he's the center.

Getzlaf- 27g + 70a = 97 pts

Ryan 43g + 40a = 83 pts

Perry 35g + 42a = 77pts

Selanne 38g + 38a = 76 pts

Koivu 17g + 50a = 67pts

Lupul 30g + 25a = 55pts

Just going to do the top six, although I think if we go with a 3rd scoring line, Christensen will get 30+ pts if he's the center.

Getzlaf- 27g + 70a = 97 pts

Ryan 43g + 40a = 83 pts

Perry 35g + 42a = 77pts

Selanne 38g + 38a = 74 pts

Koivu 17g + 50a = 67pts

Lupul 30g + 25a = 55pts

Not a bad job there legend, I go with what you posted but I don't think Teemu will get 38, maybe 25-30, so I say 63-68 for him.

Getzlaf-26-71-97
Perry-44-40-84
Ryan-34-44-78
Lupul-29-30-59
Koivu-23-48-71
Selanne-36-37-73

Niedermayer-16-42-58
Whitney-17-39-46
Wisniewski-13-29-42

Selanne 38g + 38a = 74 pts


76 pts. ;)

76 pts. ;)

Hah, basic math 15 minutes after waking up FTW :laugh:.

Not a bad job there legend, I go with what you posted but I don't think Teemu will get 38, maybe 25-30, so I say 63-68 for him.

First off, thanks :). However, Selanne achieved that goal total amount last year in 62 games with Morrison/Ebbet as his centers. So I'm going to assume you think his age is really going to catch up to him next year or you think he won't be playing 1st unit PP anymore, care to elaborate?

Getzy 27-66=93
Perry 35-41 = 76
Ryan 42-38 = 80
Selanne 35-39 = 74
Koivu 24-41=65
Lupul 31-39=70(on first line)

Getzlaf 80-100
Perry 60-80
Ryan 60-80
Selanne 50-70
Lupul 50-60
Koivu 50-60

First off, thanks :). However, Selanne achieved that goal total amount last year in 62 games with Morrison/Ebbet as his centers. So I'm going to assume you think his age is really going to catch up to him next year or you think he won't be playing 1st unit PP anymore, care to elaborate?

Last year Teemu had (to me) slight problems with hand/eye coordination, I don't know maybe age, maybe it was just excitement, but they playoff's were not kind to him.

I think he will still be on the 1st PP unit because he does have a knack for scoring, he is a sniper after all.

I don't know, maybe Saku will light a fire under him and he takes off with it. I sure hope so.

Getzlaf 80-100
Perry 60-80
Ryan 60-80
Selanne 50-70
Lupul 50-60
Koivu 50-60

Kind of vague there Pepper, might as well put 0-100 for Getz;)

Getz - 27-76-104
Perry - 37-42-79
Bobby - 35-47-82
Selanne - 32-38-70
Koivu - 21-43-64
Lupul - 29-31-60

Getz->27-80=107
Perry->34-40=74
Ryan->39-35=74
Selanne->38-40=78
Koivu->16-48=64
Lupul->29-32=61

Nieds->14-48=62

Getzlaf 26g 76a = 102pts
Ryan 37g 45a = 82pts
Perry 42g 32a = 74pts
Selanne 38g 33a = 71pts
Koivu 21g 43a = 64pts
Lupul 29g 27a = 56pts

Threads like these remind me of threads from a few years back when Edmonton was supposed to have like 9 30-goal scorers. There's just a whole load of optimism in here.

Threads like these remind me of threads from a few years back when Edmonton was supposed to have like 9 30-goal scorers. There's just a whole load of optimism in here.

Quit raining on our parade.

Threads like these remind me of threads from a few years back when Edmonton was supposed to have like 9 30-goal scorers. There's just a whole load of optimism in here.

Well it's the Oilers and their fans. Reality has never been the strong part of their game.

4 20+ goal scorers and 6 50+ point players. I can live with that.

Getzlaf gets a full year of playing with Ryan and Perry but he won't have Pronger's passes.

We also might see more balanced PP units, last year it was the 1st unit and then nothing.

Threads like these remind me of threads from a few years back when Edmonton was supposed to have like 9 30-goal scorers. There's just a whole load of optimism in here.

One of my favorite hockey moments was listening to Edmonton radio right after Anaheim didn't match the Penner offer sheet. The callers were awesome. 90-100 points was the overwhelming favorite for the amount of points he would go on to score...and he would do it with a "mean streak". I lol'd then. I lol now.

Ah Edmonton fans. It's kind of amusing watching their little hearts break from unrealistic expectations year after year.


Anyways, here's some predictions from me.

Getz: 25 goals-90 points
Perry: 40-82
Lupul: 28-40 (1st line for goals, 2nd PP for lack of points)
Koivu: 15-55
Selanne: 30-60
QP: 23-50 (I think he got awfully lucky goal-wise last year, and he'll be on line 2 and PP#2)

Nieds: 55 points
Whitney: 40 points
Sbisa: 30 points (sleeper)

QP: 23-50 (I think he got awfully lucky goal-wise last year, and he'll be on line 2 and PP#2)

Can we hope this is the last vestige of your Ryan dislike?

Getz - 28G 75A 103P
Perry - 35G 40A 75P
Ryan - 42G 40A 82P

Lupul - 25G 30A 55P
Koivu - 18G 45A 63P
Selanne - 32G 30A 62P

Nieds - 13G 47A 60P
Whitney - 8G 40A 48P
Wisniewski - 7G 30A 37P

Can we hope this is the last vestige of your Ryan dislike?
I'm pretty much over it now. I'm just wary of the sophomore slump.

I do think he'll be on the 2nd line and 2nd PP for the most part and that his points will suffer as a result. But I'm hoping he can be a catalyst for the 2nd line. If he can drive the 2nd line to success, that will be even better than his last season. I'm hoping for less improvement in terms of numbers or offense and more in terms of consistency, physicality, and play without the puck.

Actually, looking at it, I should switch the point totals for Ryan and Koivu. Selanne has higher point totals than those 2 because he'll be on PP1, but Ryan should be 2nd for total points on that line.

Defensemen -

Niedermayer - 65 pts. (He had 59 with a terrible start this season. Having him under 58 seems like a crime. 60 is conservative. 65 is my middle ground.)

Whitney - 45 pts. (We didn't see the best of Whitney. I expect more from him, and he is certainly capable of more than 40 points, particularly if he gets 1st unit PP time.)

Wiesnewski - 30 pts. (I expect a breakout season for Weaser, with him playing for a contract, but I don't know if he's capable of much more than 30 points.)

Sbisa - ?? (A full season of Sbisa might amount to a lot, or very little. I think 20 points is within his reach, but only if he gets PP time.)

QP: 23-50 (I think he got awfully lucky goal-wise last year, and he'll be on line 2 and PP#2)



I hope you are wrong. We need you to be wrong.

Be wrong.

Gimbles is gone.....long gone.

There is absolutely no way lupul scores more goals and has only ten points less than Ryan next year. I'll channel a little eric nuts to get that out there.

I hope you are wrong. We need you to be wrong.

Be wrong.

Gimbles is gone.....long gone.
Meh, I'm not good at making predictions. I don't do fantasy or anything like that.

I do think I'd prefer Ryan on the 2nd line so he can drive that line, and let Lupul leech off the twins on the first line. It may suck for Ryan's individual numbers, but I think it'd help the team overall to have 2 contributing lines.

There is absolutely no way lupul scores more goals and has only ten points less than Ryan next year. I'll channel a little eric nuts to get that out there.
The reason I made it like that is that I think that Lupul gets on the first line. Even though he's still clearly inferior to Ryan, who will be on the 2nd line. So then Getzlaf will feed Lupul for lots of goals, but Ryan will play better and outscore Lupul. I also think Ryan's goal totals were a bit of an aberration.

What about his goal total feels like an abberation? To me, it feels like just the opposite. If he had played with the top offensive players all year and scored a bunch of tap-in goals, then yes, I could see where you were coming from; however, he routinely created his own offense no matter who he played with, something he did regularly enough to suggest it wasn't a fluke.

What about his goal total feels like an abberation? To me, it feels like just the opposite. If he had played with the top offensive players all year and scored a bunch of tap-in goals, then yes. I could see where you were coming from; however, he routinely created his own offense no matter who he played with, something he did regularly enough to suggest it wasn't a fluke.

At one point it was whichever line Bobby Ryan was on, would carry the offense.

I sense a graph approaching.

I sense a graph approaching.

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/mp968/rap012.jpg

Getzlaf 27+69
Perry - 31+35
Ryan - 33+37
Selanne - 35+32
Koivu - 17+45
Lupul - 28+29
Ebbett - 10+23

Niedermayer - 14+45
Whitney - 12+33
Wisniewski - 10+25

I sense a graph approaching.

Hahahahahahaha

Your turn Snark

What about his goal total feels like an abberation? To me, it feels like just the opposite. If he had played with the top offensive players all year and scored a bunch of tap-in goals, then yes, I could see where you were coming from; however, he routinely created his own offense no matter who he played with, something he did regularly enough to suggest it wasn't a fluke.
Ryan did often create his own offense, but a few things go into my goal prediction.

1) He was more of a playmaker in junior than a goal scorer. He was also described as such, both by others and by himself. So his 31 goals to 26 assists is inconsistent with his history.

2) He's got a good wrist shot, but I feel like he's got a relatively poor one-timer. At least for a 30 goal scorer. Compare that with his magic hands in terms of stickhandling and passing, the skills seem to point the other way.

3) Just an impression, but I feel like he converted on an unusually large percentage of his shots. It just seemed like he got unusually lucky in scoring all those goals. Compare that to Perry, who would get golden chance after golden chance and just have awful luck. The shooting % bears that out. Ryan has a 17.8% (quite high), Perry has 11.3. Selanne, a known sniper, has 14.5.

4) Anaheim rookie years tend to be misleading in terms of a player's goal totals. Lupul (well his sophomore year), Penner, Kunitz, even Getzlaf (although he's been consistently 24/25 goals) all had career years goal-wise their first full seasons.

5) Scouting and coaching will probably tighten the ice he gets some. He had some goals by beating people with his stickhandling, or even his skating. I expect those to go down a little as they worry more about covering him. Does he have the shot and one-timer to score in other ways and make up for that?

6) If he's on the 2nd line, like I was predicting, I think he'll be feeding Selanne for the goals. Although Koivu may be feeding him too. But unless he probably won't have Getzlaf passing to him (even though Getzlaf only did that fora fraction of last season).

7) I'm just pulling stuff out of my ass
I sense a graph approaching.
I was thinking more of a pie chart, or perhaps a plot of his goals vs shots on a little mini NHL rink.

Getzlaf 36 + 56 = 92 (I have hope he's going to be asked to use his canon of a shot more and will do so.)
Perry 32 + 47 = 79
Ryan 28 + 48 = 76 (splitting time with Lupul on 1st line)
Selanne 33 + 32 = 65
Koivu 22 + 46 = 68
Lupul 27 + 24 = 51

Niedermayer 12 + 49 = 61
Wisniewski 14 + 32 = 46 (if stays healthy)
Whitney 10 + 32 = 42

Getzlaf 36 + 56 = 92 (I have hope he's going to be asked to use his canon of a shot more and will do so.)
Perry 32 + 47 = 79
Ryan 28 + 48 = 76 (splitting time with Lupul on 1st line)
Selanne 33 + 32 = 65
Koivu 22 + 46 = 68
Lupul 27 + 24 = 51

Niedermayer 12 + 49 = 61
Wisniewski 14 + 32 = 46 (if stays healthy)
Whitney 10 + 32 = 42

I agree with most of these except for Wiz. Niedermayer, will have the most goals by our D this year. He jumps into the play much more than Wiz, and although he will likely be spending a LOT of time with Scott this season, the way Scott plays will provide him more opportunities to put the puck in the net (IE: jumping in on the rush and PP).

I agree with most of these except for Wiz. Niedermayer, will have the most goals by our D this year. He jumps into the play much more than Wiz, and although he will likely be spending a LOT of time with Scott this season, the way Scott plays will provide him more opportunities to put the puck in the net (IE: jumping in on the rush and PP).
I intended to go a little out of line with my projection for Wiz in order to mix it up a little... :) But I think it's possible. He does have a good shot and I could see him using it more often than Scott on the powerplay. Scotty is obviously a much safer bet as you can expect a lot more danger from him especially playing five on five, but I thought I'd give this a shot. :)

Some of you guys have waaaay too many goals/points on these guys:

Getz - 20G 65A 85P
Perry - 30G 40A 70P
Ryan - 35G 35A 70P

Lupul - 22G 30A 52P
Koivu - 12G 45A 57P
Selanne - 22G 30A 52P


I think that that is maybe a conservative guess...

Some of you guys have waaaay too many goals/points on these guys:

Getz - 20G 65A 85P
Perry - 30G 40A 70P
Ryan - 35G 35A 70P

Lupul - 22G 30A 52P
Koivu - 12G 45A 57P
Selanne - 22G 30A 52P


I think that that is maybe a conservative guess...

The thing which I find most odd are Koivu estimated point totals. He's had health problems all career and has only sniffed 70+ points twice, the most recent on the top PP of the league. 57 seems pausible when considering he won't be playing on the first line anymore, could possibly have another few games lost due to injury, and is certainly not the same Koivu of two years ago.

Some of you guys have waaaay too many goals/points on these guys:

Getz - 20G 65A 85P
Perry - 30G 40A 70P
Ryan - 35G 35A 70P

Lupul - 22G 30A 52P
Koivu - 12G 45A 57P
Selanne - 22G 30A 52P


I think that that is maybe a conservative guess...



This could definitely be that case next season.

Ryan could hit a sophmore slump or just simply be moved around too many lines to improve upon last seasons pace.

Getzlaf wont be counted on as our only source of puck distribution with Koivu here, so he may take over more PK responsibilites and his points will go down.

Perry could score 50 goals and I wouldn't be surprised, or he could blow 90% of his chances and end up at 15 goals, I wouldn't be too surprised either way.

Who knows how well Koivu will play.

Selanne's age may finally catch up with him, he scored 27 in 65 last season, but this might be the year he really drops off.

Your Lupul prediction seems oddly generous considering your conservative approach with the others.

I sure hope this our top two lines don't combine for only 141 goals though, with our defense, we'd probably be in for a long season.

Edit: Btw, just for reference, or top six forwards last season (Perry, Ryan, Selanne, Getzlaf, Kunitz, Morrison) scored a combined 141 goals...I guess we should add Ebbett too, so that's 149 goals.

Getzlaf- 30g + 65a = 95 pts

Ryan 38g + 45a = 83 pts

Perry 45g + 35a = 80 pts

Selanne 30g + 45a = 75 pts

Koivu 20g + 55a = 75 pts

Lupul 35g + 30a = 65pts

Getzlaf - 20 - 65 - 85
Perry - 35 - 37 - 72
Ryan - 27 - 38 - 65
Koivu - 16 - 40 - 56
Selanne - 29 - 23 - 52
Lupul - 26 - 23 - 49

Niedermayer - 13 - 50 - 63
Whitney - 8 - 35 - 43
Wisniewski - 7 - 21 - 28
Sbisa - 4 - 14 - 18

At one point it was whichever line Bobby Ryan was on, would carry the offense.

And if you remember, when he played on the 4th with parros and Carter, he even got some production out of parros. I saw 2 games where those two had SEVERAL 2 on 1s. Ryan is clearly an offensive force and I think showing how he's spending this off-season he will have a bigger year! Well I hope at least

This could definitely be that case next season.

Ryan could hit a sophmore slump or just simply be moved around too many lines to improve upon last seasons pace.

Getzlaf wont be counted on as our only source of puck distribution with Koivu here, so he may take over more PK responsibilites and his points will go down.

Perry could score 50 goals and I wouldn't be surprised, or he could blow 90% of his chances and end up at 15 goals, I wouldn't be too surprised either way.

Who knows how well Koivu will play.

Selanne's age may finally catch up with him, he scored 27 in 65 last season, but this might be the year he really drops off.

Your Lupul prediction seems oddly generous considering your conservative approach with the others.

I sure hope this our top two lines don't combine for only 141 goals though, with our defense, we'd probably be in for a long season.

Edit: Btw, just for reference, or top six forwards last season (Perry, Ryan, Selanne, Getzlaf, Kunitz, Morrison) scored a combined 141 goals...I guess we should add Ebbett too, so that's 149 goals.

See, in my mind, I see Lupul having a big year if he is with Koivu and Selanne. Selanne had a great year last year in limited games, but sure, his production will probably tail off... However, over the last few years, I have been super impressed with Selanne's playmaking abilities and some awesome passes, more than his goal scoring at times. I think with Koivu and Selanne feeding Lupul, the kid could really put up some good numbers.

I think Selanne's numbers are going to drop some just because he won't be the only talented player on his line anymore, and Lupul isn't going to be looking to pass like Getz at every opportunity.

See, in my mind, I see Lupul having a big year if he is with Koivu and Selanne. Selanne had a great year last year in limited games, but sure, his production will probably tail off... However, over the last few years, I have been super impressed with Selanne's playmaking abilities and some awesome passes, more than his goal scoring at times. I think with Koivu and Selanne feeding Lupul, the kid could really put up some good numbers.

I think Selanne's numbers are going to drop some just because he won't be the only talented player on his line anymore, and Lupul isn't going to be looking to pass like Getz at every opportunity.

If our goal totals are what you posted, I sure hope Giggy or Hiller have a Vezina winning campaign, because that will be our only hope.

Getzlaf-26-71-97
Perry-44-40-84
Ryan-34-44-78
Lupul-29-30-59
Koivu-23-48-71
Selanne-36-37-73

Niedermayer-16-42-58
Whitney-17-39-46
Wisniewski-13-29-42

Thats 238 goals, the entire team scored 238 goals last season, I dont think your top six and three D-men are gonna put up numbers quite that big. It should be an exciting season for Ducks fans though as I do believe the overall goals scored will be higher than last season.

For comparisons sake, last season the players listed above combined for 195 goals.