whats with all the 1yr deals?

airforceones25
07-12-2009, 10:59 PM
i was looking at our payroll and we have upwards of 20mil coming off that books for next season. i understand were gonna give bobby ryan and hiller new deals most likely but seriously 20 mil... maybe murray's going to make a play for Kovalchuk or Kessel next year. one can dream right? haha

Duckstudd269
07-12-2009, 11:19 PM
i was looking at our payroll and we have upwards of 20mil coming off that books for next season. i understand were gonna give bobby ryan and hiller new deals most likely but seriously 20 mil... maybe murray's going to make a play for Kovalchuk or Kessel next year. one can dream right? haha

The only one that doesn't make a lot of sense is the Salcido signing. I hate that deal because honestly I think he's going to be much better then Festerling and Mikkelsson.

S.Niedermayer (he may retire afterwards, may not.) Smart move

S.Koivu (health issues and it's probably what he wanted. To play with Teemu his last season).

Salcido (I guess they are wanting to see what this guy can do before locking him up.) Personnally I think it was a mistake.

McCarthy (7th, 8th defensemen. Big deal. I'm glad it's only one year.)

Boynton (Ducks could potentially have three guys come out of the minors next year, or the money saved could be used to add a top 4 if Scotty retires.)

Wiz (This is one I don't like either, although I see the reasoning for it. Obviously it's to see if Wiz can earn what he wants, 4 million a season. I still wish this one was longer though.)

So aside from Salcido and Wiz, the one year deals make perfect sense. Even Salcido's and Wiz's have reasoning as well. The fact is that after this coming year, and maybe even this coming year, times are going to get tough because S.Niedermayer will almost certainly be gone, and Teemu will be gone. This year the Ducks will be most likely be a playoff team and contender, but the next year we will struggle to make the playoffs with out Teemu and especially S.Niedermayer. Kovy isn't an option at all for the Ducks. They have way to much money invested in their top 6:

Getzlaf- 5.3
Perry- 5.3
Ryan- his raise will be most likely between 3.5-5 million.
Lupul- 4.25

Defense is where we will stuggle after this year. We're going to be relying on our prospects to play well. It's possible that the year after this upcoming season, we may have the following in the lineup full time: Mitera, Sbisa, and two of Mikelsson/Festerling/Salcido. Hopefully we're able to add a big free agent defensemen as well. Bottom line is that after this coming season until some of our defensive prospects turn into solid contenders, we will struggle to make the playoffs.

Talentless Practise
07-12-2009, 11:28 PM
The cap comes down significantly so having 20M in room will be huge. New contracts to Ryan, Hiller, Scotty (book it), Teemu (book that too), Koivu will eat that up no problem.

fedro91
07-12-2009, 11:41 PM
The cap comes down significantly so having 20M in room will be huge. New contracts to Ryan, Hiller, Scotty (book it), Teemu (book that too), Koivu will eat that up no problem.

Selanne announce that he s gona retired after thise season. So count Selanne out.

Talentless Practise
07-12-2009, 11:48 PM
Selanne announce that he s gona retired after thise season. So count Selanne out.

He didn't

snarktacular
07-13-2009, 01:04 AM
The cap comes down significantly so having 20M in room will be huge. New contracts to Ryan, Hiller, Scotty (book it), Teemu (book that too), Koivu will eat that up no problem.
This post was what I had to say. Although I think Scotty retires after 2010. Cap space is huge if the cap drops significantly. If you have space while most other teams don't, you can have a field day with UFA and trade bargains as teams scramble to become cap compliant.

I'd also like to add that Niedermayer is 35+, so we'd probably prefer to sign him to only 1 year deals from now on.
Selanne announce that he s gona retired after thise season. So count Selanne out.
Not only did he not announce that, he later renounced the newspaper that claimed he said it.

http://ducks.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/06/ducks-selanne-has-not-decided-beyond-2009-10/15829/
Teemu Selanne wants Ducks fans to know that he has yet to make any decision about possibly ending his NHL career after next season.

Through a Ducks spokesman, Selanne sent word from Finland that a newspaper report in his homeland picked up last week by Canadian media outlets is incorrect.

The report had quoted Selanne as saying that the 2009-10 season would definitely be his last.

Bjindaho
07-13-2009, 09:29 AM
This post was what I had to say. Although I think Scotty retires after 2010. Cap space is huge if the cap drops significantly. If you have space while most other teams don't, you can have a field day with UFA and trade bargains as teams scramble to become cap compliant.

I'd also like to add that Niedermayer is 35+, so we'd probably prefer to sign him to only 1 year deals from now on.

Not only did he not announce that, he later renounced the newspaper that claimed he said it.

http://ducks.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/06/ducks-selanne-has-not-decided-beyond-2009-10/15829/

The other thing is that if more than a couple of teams can stay below next year's cap, amnesty buyouts won't happen again...that means that teams that have committed stupid amounts to players (such as Detroit) would have to give up assets to move players, or move players that they don't want to...

Something you'll notice is that Toronto is also in great cap shape...Montreal isn't in bad shape...Ottawa is in decent shape...all teams that will spend to the cap otherwise, but that are planning on being in good shape for next year, knowing that they can't win it all this year and that it isn't beneficial to be way up next year...

TheJoeMan
07-13-2009, 01:11 PM
The only one that doesn't make a lot of sense is the Salcido signing. I hate that deal because honestly I think he's going to be much better then Festerling and Mikkelsson.

If I was Salcido I would have asked for a one-year deal. Dude had to toil in the minors for three years in two different cities and now he's probably going to spend the year again in the minors in another new city. By signing a one-year deal he gives himself the chance to be a UFA next summer. It was the smart move by him to do so.

Jimgrayson
07-13-2009, 01:25 PM
The Sharks are in pretty good shape after this year too. Loads of their money comes off due to players like Marleau and Nabokov and they might have to accept a pay cut due to a lack of suitors if no-one has much cap space.

What I hadn't noticed was that, according to nhlscap, this year they have 8F, 7D, 1G under contract for a cap hit of $55.45m ie $1.35 to fill 6 roster spaces. Anyone got any idea how that situtation will play out?

MEEPSTER4
07-13-2009, 03:19 PM
The Sharks are in pretty good shape after this year too. Loads of their money comes off due to players like Marleau and Nabokov and they might have to accept a pay cut due to a lack of suitors if no-one has much cap space.

What I hadn't noticed was that, according to nhlscap, this year they have 8F, 7D, 1G under contract for a cap hit of $55.45m ie $1.35 to fill 6 roster spaces. Anyone got any idea how that situtation will play out?

I'm expecting them to dump Marleau's contract and use a few minor leaguers and 1-2 UFAs to fill in the foward spots and Greiss will be the backup. They may even use one of their dman as a 4th liner to save on salary. I just think they're having a hard time moving such a large salary.

Varius
07-13-2009, 05:53 PM
I think the one-year deals are smart as long as our core guys get longer term deals (as Getz and Perry did).

With the uncertainty of not only our own internal budget year to year and the cap for next year, it's just a smart thing to do.

Other ones, were to guys who haven't proven themselves yet or may (likely) retire as well as stop-gap pieces we wouldn't want longer term I wouldn't think as we expect kids to fill in next year (like Boynton).

Jimgrayson
07-13-2009, 05:58 PM
I'm expecting them to dump Marleau's contract and use a few minor leaguers and 1-2 UFAs to fill in the foward spots and Greiss will be the backup. They may even use one of their dman as a 4th liner to save on salary. I just think they're having a hard time moving such a large salary.

Hopefully it'll be the end of the Duck killer that is Cheechoo ($3m per for 2 more seasons)

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