Boynton a Duck?

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8466145

great news if this is true.

http://ducks.nhl.com/team/app?page=PlayerDetail&playerId=8466145&service=page&tab=prf

Seems so, excellent! Wonder what's up with this and McCarthy not being announced?

What about Wiznievski? Can we still afford him ?

What about Wiznievski? Can we still afford him ?
Not if there's a budget...

There's going to have to be a trade I think, and the only one that makes sense is Giguere. Maybe Hiller. Or, there's no budget.

I haven't seen Nick play much of late but loved him when he was on the Bruins.

I hope he plays well for your team.

Good Luck Nick !!!;)

At least he makes much more sense than Steve McCarthy. Nonetheless, Boynton struggled in Phoenix and Florida. I don't remember why or what happened but I won't get too excited if the signing is true. Hopefully, Bob Murray has some money for Wiz.

edited: Boynton was sent home on a road trip in Feb probably for insubordination to the coaches. That don't sound good.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/content/sports/epaper/2009/02/27/0227panthers.html

eh, not a big fan of this one. 16:30 avg TOI the last few years. losing nearly 60 minutes a night with pronger and beauchemin is a lot of big minutes to fill. seems like more of a bottom pairing guy.

Boynton may be the worst of the stay at home vet defense guys that's been named by us as a possiblity. On the other hand, he's probably cheap.

He was pretty bad and a huge cap albatross in Phoenix. I haven't watched him in Florida, but it looks like he's 7th on their team in TOI, although that includes 1 guy in Eminger who played mostly on another team.

I'm not sure he's the vet #4/5 I'd like, but he's probably better than a Brookbank (I'm not sure Brookbank can keep up what he was doing with us) or a Hedican. And we did upgrade the offense with Koivu and Lupul, so maybe a vet #5/#6 will be sufficient.

Boynton may be the worst of the stay at home vet defense guys that's been named by us as a possiblity. On the other hand, he's probably cheap.

He was pretty bad and a huge cap albatross in Phoenix. I haven't watched him in Florida, but it looks like he's 7th on their team in TOI, although that includes 1 guy in Eminger who played mostly on another team.

I'm not sure he's the vet #4/5 I'd like, but he's probably better than a Brookbank (I'm not sure Brookbank can keep up what he was doing with us) or a Hedican. And we did upgrade the offense with Koivu and Lupul, so maybe a vet #5/#6 will be sufficient.
I don't remember Boynton being particularly bad in Phoenix. He was horribly overpaid which probably contributed to his reputation as a dud.

Also, hi Bob Murray! Thanks for reading the boards :)
Is it weird having such a big fat head? I bet your mom had some epic meat curtains after you were born, Stewie Griffin.

Got this from the main board. I think Dirk will like this signing :)

As a Coyotes fan, I'm pissed. I loved Nick Boynton during his time here in Phoenix. He was solid defensively, here, and I'm not sure where all the hate is coming from. There was no offense, whatsoever, to speak of, but as long as your not expecting that, it shouldn't matter. He's just a fairly solid, unspectacular, defensive, defenseman. The thing about Boynton, though, is that the guy is an absolute ****ing LION out on the ice. There has never been a player in the history of the Phoenix Coyotes that defended his teammates, and himself as ferociously as Nick Boynton. The guy just does not take **** from anybody. If you mess with him or one of his teammates, it's just on. He's a damn good cop. He's not one of these worthless enforcer types that will only fight other tough guys and he's not one of these cowardly agitators that depends on the instigator rule for their very life. He'll fight anyone at anytime so long as it needs doing. I'm not saying he's going to win them all. He may even lose more than he wins, but he's always willing to make that statement. Just watch his youtube fight clips. It seems everytime he drops the gloves he's sticking up for the team, refusing to let his guys be pushed around. He'll fight anybody, too. From the Worrells and Kocis to Artyukhins and Lucics to the Barnabys and Tootoos. That's rare.

Check out this clip, for instance...

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...a non-fighter takes out Phoenix's enforcer with a hit Boynton doesn't like, and then skates to the bench. Boynton comes all the way across the ice, rips the guy off of the bench and down on to the ice and procedes to give him a beat. How hilarous is that? :laugh:

I'm so pissed he's back in the west. Especially a friggin' Duck. :rant:

He's been good for 5-7 fights every year. Which is a good thing since we lost Beauch.

I think he'll be fine, just not a fit with the Panthers, though he was a +7. Carlyle will get him to play simple defensive hockey.

Carlyle will get him to play simple defensive hockey.

This. I think Boynton's point total might drop some coming to Anaheim. He was brought here to play safe and sound defensive hockey.

Think you'll like watching this:

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NHLPA lists his 09/10 salary as 1.5M. Little bit steep. Still okay.

I am liking this signing. I still foresee a trade though for a top4 play making defensemen while signing Wizzie.
But he has diabetes how can he maintain someone?!

Not a big fan of this one, but our options are limited financially and boynton is better than the alternatives. I kind of expect him and sbisa to both be between 4th and 5th dmen and kind of share their minutes.

signing is now confirmed... 1-year, $1.5 mill

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/ana090709a.html

Is Hedican still on this team? We have 9 dmen listed on our roster.

I really wouldn't mind losing a couple of them so we can get a look at some of the minor leaguers.

:handclap:, Carlyle will turn Boynton into a solid, tough, stay at home d-man in no time. Pair him with Scotty and everything is gravy.

Is Hedican still on this team? We have 9 dmen listed on our roster.

I really wouldn't mind losing a couple of them so we can get a look at some of the minor leaguers.Hedican is UFA:

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=ANA&season=0910

Hedican is UFA:

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=ANA&season=0910

Ok, I feel a little better about this signing then.

I was a big fan of Boynton back in the day but have since lost track of him post-lockout.

This defense doesn't look horrible. Pronger looked slow last year and not very mobile.

I accept that our defense might have gotten a little worse with our offense getting quite a bit better.

Plus we got a good deal younger in a lot of key positions, and we should have a chance for a few young forwards to filter into our 3rd/4th lines.

I accept that our defense might have gotten a little worse with our offense getting quite a bit better.


I'd still like to get one more pesky checking line guy who can pop in the occasional goal and piss opponents off. The scoring lines look solid, but we still need a tad more sandpaper in the lineup.

assuming we sign wiz, this should allow Whitney to open it up a little more offensively than we have seen

I'm pretty happy about this. Now Murray just needs to sign the Wiz and then I'll be content.

Got this from the main board. I think Dirk will like this signing :)

Yes sir :)

I was just reading the geeks on the main board bashing him which is expected unless you are a prospect or a superstar you are deemed worthless on those boards. He is exactly what the team needed a simple top4 d-man that replaces some of the nastiness we lost this offseason and plays a simple stay at home game.

I'd still like to get one more pesky checking line guy who can pop in the occasional goal and piss opponents off. The scoring lines look solid, but we still need a tad more sandpaper in the lineup.

Yes someone with size like Moen, who can go up against the power forwards in the league. He was perfect against guys Iginla,Morrow, etc and especially the Euros from Detroit like Franzen

Yes sir :)

I was just reading the geeks on the main board bashing him which is expected unless you are a prospect or a superstar you are deemed worthless on those boards. He is exactly what the team needed a simple top4 d-man that replaces some of the nastiness we lost this offseason and plays a simple stay at home game.

Is he really a top 4 d man?

hopefully he's at least better than ken klee

Good job Murray! :handclap:

The exact type of d-man the Ducks needed. 1.5 for 1 year is great value for this guy.

This well help the Ducks team toughness a lot and give them a solid 2nd pairing guy.

I always thought of Boynton as a solid 2nd pairing guy, but people on the main board seem to think he is simply a #6...when did that change cuz I thought he was always solid in Phoenix.

Moen sucked last year dirk, it's time you got over him.

I think Boynton will be paired with Scotty Niedermayer and he will look good. Hell, I would look good paired with Scotty. I wonder if Boynton is ready to play that many minutes though. This may be the first time in Ducks history but we have three right handed shot defensemen.

Scotty Boynton
Whitney Wiz
Sbisa Brookbank

Is he really a top 4 d man?

He's basically a bigger version of montador, turnover prone and not too bright, but he is tough and plays effective defense on occasion. If he's getting 20 min a night we're in trouble.

Its so strange, before we signed I kept hearing how he'd be the perfect guy for the team.

Now all I'm hearing is the guy is crap. No offense, bad penalties, on occasion plays some defense.

I'm now wondering if we were better off giving the ice time to a youngster.

It's HFBoards. The place where a bad season erases a quality career. The place where rebounding is impossible and all teams and coaches are equal in terms of player performance.

It's HFBoards. The place where a bad season erases a quality career. The place where rebounding is impossible and all teams and coaches are equal in terms of player performance.

Don't forget if you are over 25 and haven't scored at least 50 points you are either:

A) Washed Up
or
B) A total bust

We heard the same things about O'Donnell upon his trade here, another former first rounder who once had bigger aspirations for himself. A slow, washed up, no-offense blockhead who bombed out of bad teams.

The Ducks game plan for this type of player is uncomplicated and easy to do, if they accept it. I imagine it's also pretty rewarding, especially when it's appreciated by the coaching staff. Boynton has an opportunity to fit in perfectly, he's not a kid anymore, he's signed to a pretty low-level deal, and he's finally on a team with a chance to make some noise. Unless he's retarded, he'll know what's in front of him here, and he won't screw it up asking for ice time above guys who make 3 times what he does.

Boynton was selected two picks ahead of Steve McCarthy (Bob's 23rd Pick in 99).
Maxime Ouellet has got to be next for the tri-fecta -- giving us the 1999 21,22,23rd picks :laugh:

Boynton should be good enough for the price. I doubt Wiz will be around too long this season. Looks like we have some cash to spend at the trade deadline if we are playoff bound.

Let's Go Ducks - work hard this season.

Is he really a top 4 d man?


Yes not the best but will be adequate for a contending team as a #4

Moen sucked last year dirk, it's time you got over him.

Moen did not "suck" his line was a mess last year with "god" either hurt or playing like crap and special Neids being as useless as ever.
He's won here, he's young with even more upside, great leader, has grit, has size, can skate, likes it here. if he can be signed for 1.5 mill or less no reason no to

Yes not the best but will be adequate for a contending team as a #4

Do you think this signing is for the bottom pairing and we're still looking for the top 4 guy?

I still think Murray is on the phone a lot working on something in the way of a trade for a top flight d man and this signing is a "just in case" signing kind of like the Schnieder one.

Do you think this signing is for the bottom pairing and we're still looking for the top 4 guy?

I still hope Murray is on the phone a lot working on something in the way of a trade for a top flight d man and this signing is a "just in case" signing kind of like the Schnieder one.

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Ignore the clowns on the main board, I saw Boynton play quite a bit last year and he's a good number 4/5 guy who's a huge upgrade over Brookbank/Festerling/Mikkelson. He's not exactly going to light the world on fire offensively but he's tough, physical and solid in his own zone. He's not the quickest skater but neither were O'Donnell, Beauchemin and Pronger either so I don't think it will matter.

44 oops, that's Rob's number ...

Anyone expecting Murray to make another significant move is probably going to be disappointed. It's well known that the Ducks will not be spending to the cap, and assuming Wiz gets anywhere from 2-3 mil, the Ducks will only have roughly 4 million in cap space.

The only possible way the Ducks add another major piece is if they trade one of the goalies, which is looking very unlikely at this point.

I think the lineup is virtually set.

Boynton was selected two picks ahead of Steve McCarthy (Bob's 23rd Pick in 99).
Maxime Ouellet has got to be next for the tri-fecta -- giving us the 1999 21,22,23rd picks :laugh:

Boynton should be good enough for the price. I doubt Wiz will be around too long this season. Looks like we have some cash to spend at the trade deadline if we are playoff bound.

Let's Go Ducks - work hard this season.

I don't get why you don't think Wiz will be around very long, he's not going to get a huge payday, he doesn't have the stats for that. I'm assuming you mean relationships are going to sour from the arbitration, which is possible, but I think he'll at least be here for the rest of this year.

Do you think this signing is for the bottom pairing and we're still looking for the top 4 guy?

I still think Murray is on the phone a lot working on something in the way of a trade for a top flight d man and this signing is a "just in case" signing kind of like the Schnieder one.


I doubt there will be any more D-men moves till Murray see's how the pairings mesh but he's comfortable picking up Boynton to be a #4 most likely playing with Whitney.

I don't get why you don't think Wiz will be around very long, he's not going to get a huge payday, he doesn't have the stats for that. I'm assuming you mean relationships are going to sour from the arbitration, which is possible, but I think he'll at least be here for the rest of this year.

Agreed

I guess I've been giving Boynton too much credit as well. Even if he's not a great top 4 guy, I like this signing. I would have rather had Seidenberg, but he was to expensive. This is a good signing by Murray though. Solid guy that can at least take the load off Brookbank or Sbisa from time to time. Great signing by Murray.

even if he sucks, he at least has this going for him...

"In 2006, he was suspended one game by the NHL for making a "throat-slash" gesture toward Mike Ribeiro, then of the Canadiens."

hopefully he gets a chance to slash ribeiro's throat for real this season.

Jay McKee signed for 800k to the Pens, would that have been better than Boynton?

Jay McKee signed for 800k to the Pens, would that have been better than Boynton?

probably, but it sounds like it was one of those 'he really wants to play there' signings. doubt the Ducks had a chance.

Jay McKee signed for 800k to the Pens, would that have been better than Boynton?

i would say in terms of play it is equal

boyton is more of warrior on ice, mckee would be more solid in his own defense i think. and we need warrior so boyton is better from my pov.

but wasnt mckee earning somethin like 4M a yeah ago?

Jay McKee signed for 800k to the Pens, would that have been better than Boynton?
IMO similar quality. But Boynton fits our needs better as he's more physical.

McKee is a better deal though. Boynton's a tad overpaid.

I doubt there will be any more D-men moves till Murray see's how the pairings mesh but he's comfortable picking up Boynton to be a #4 most likely playing with Whitney.

Ducks Sign Defenseman McCarthy

Ducks Sign Defenseman McCarthy

technically they signed McCarthy before Boynton.

Mara signed with Montreal
according to NHLPA website, it 1 year , 1,950 000

http://www.nhlpa.com/WebStats/Player...hy.asp?ID=6409

Not knowing anything about Boynton, I can't say this would have been better, but I do like Mara's play.

Jay McKee signed for 800k to the Pens, would that have been better than Boynton?

Lotta players signing with Pens these days for lower than mkt value. Examples: Fedotenko taking less than 2 mil/yr for a chance to play wing with Malkin....
Guerin taking just over 2 mil for a chance to wing for Crosby.

I would say both those guys could have scored about 3 or 3.5 mil elsewhere... or at least 2.5 for Guerin if people were concerned about his age.

Kunitz is lucky to have signed for what he did. 3.5 mil/yr is about right or perhaps even overpaid a bit.

Mara signed with Montreal
according to NHLPA website, it 1 year , 1,950 000

http://www.nhlpa.com/WebStats/Player...hy.asp?ID=6409

Not knowing anything about Boynton, I can't say this would have been better, but I do like Mara's play.

Considering our youth on the team, I think having a physical/veteran guy like Boynton make more sense than Mara.

He'll take care of rough stuff when he's out on the ice.

I just hope he's not a penalty machine.