Official Offseason/2009 Draft Thread Part VII

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Any idea if we are the most active team board, holy hell.

Koivu, please! One year would be nice.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/imgs/dynamique/photos/original/article_13714_2.jpg

we're the most bored team board. god dammit do something LL.

the koivu tease just put me at half mast.

Any idea if we are the most active team board, holy hell.

And we haven't really signed or lost anyone yet.

And yes I would gladly take Koivu for 1 year.

http://stanleycupplayoffs2008.com/Assets/Photos/Zubov%20action%20-%20DAL.jpg

How much do you guys think Koivu will fetch?

How much do you guys think Koivu will fetch?

$3.5-$4mill, I guess.

Okay so i'm finally home from work...anyone got those streams you all were following TSN on earlier in the day? Work blocked that **** for me. Are they even still talking hockey or no?

How much do you guys think Koivu will fetch?

He'll get 4 M easily, even if his agent is a half-blind chimpanzee.

Okay so i'm finally home from work...anyone got those streams you all were following TSN on earlier in the day? Work blocked that **** for me. Are they even still talking hockey or no?

It went off at 6

Okay so i'm finally home from work...anyone got those streams you all were following TSN on earlier in the day? Work blocked that **** for me. Are they even still talking hockey or no?

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/TML-Live

I never closed out of it when it went off before, then I heard talking in my room and it freaked me out since it came back.

Okay so i'm finally home from work...anyone got those streams you all were following TSN on earlier in the day? Work blocked that **** for me. Are they even still talking hockey or no?

TSN isn't doing anything anymore because the CFL season opened today. I don't know about the NHL network. I'm getting my news from the Puck Daddy feed and the TSN tracker now.

So what do we look like next season?

Parise – Zajac – Langenbrunner
Elias – Rolston – Bergfors
Pandolfo – Zubrus – Shannahan?
Clarkson – Pelley – PL3


Martin – Oduya
White – Mottau
Salvador – Greene

Brodeur
Weekes?

TSN isn't doing anything anymore because the CFL season opened today. I don't know about the NHL network. I'm getting my news from the Puck Daddy feed and the TSN tracker now.
I'm watching the X-Files and counting on you people to keep me informed.

So what do we look like next season?

Parise – Zajac – Langenbrunner
Elias – Rolston – Bergfors
Pandolfo – Zubrus – Shannahan?
Clarkson – Pelley – PL3


Martin – Oduya
White – Mottau
Salvador – Greene

Brodeur
Weekes?
Don't try to predict anything until we hit preseason. So many spots, so many kids.

The Rangers have a 4 year deal on the table for Chris Neil. Per Darren Dreger via Puck Daddy live chatter box

Yak, are you the guy dropping hints all over the net... but not here?

I think he's signed with the Sabres.

I'm watching the Pitchmen and counting on you people to keep me informed.
Fixed to reflect my current state.

well, it's not Buffalo then. DAMN YOU EKLUND.

Yak, are you the guy dropping hints all over the net... but not here?

I think he's signed with the Sabres.

I thought I saw a thread on the trade board about the Sabres saying they aren't going to be active in the FA market?

Gaborik to the Rangers 5 years 5.75 per year.

http://twitter.com/darrendreger

Gaborik to NYR.

Gaborik to the Rangers 5 years 5.75 per year

Wow :amazed:

TSN is reporting Gaborik to the Rangers. 5 years x $5.75


BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

I thought I saw a thread on the trade board about the Sabres saying they aren't going to be active in the FA market?

I was just picking kinda randomly. like Eklund.

Yeccccch.

I knew the Rags would get one of the two glass men. I knew it.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/TML-Live

I never closed out of it when it went off before, then I heard talking in my room and it freaked me out since it came back.

Nice thanks!

TSN isn't doing anything anymore because the CFL season opened today. I don't know about the NHL network. I'm getting my news from the Puck Daddy feed and the TSN tracker now.

Well whatever the feed GB just posted has something on it, not sure if its live or not.

Gaborik to the Rangers 5 years 5.75 per year.

http://twitter.com/darrendreger

Lame. We'll after P3L is done with him, he'll be out for the season

Nooooooooooooooooo

it's better than Gomez. I guess Heatley just got it crammed up his ass. either the Oil or nothing.

so much for the cap space, though. I would have taken a healthier player, but he does have some potential and he can do it himself

That's a good cap hit for Gabbo.


Update: Gaborik has suffered a paper cut and is out for the next ten years.

TSN is reporting Gaborik to the Rangers. 5 years x $5.75

Wow, more wingers and no centres. I'm sure he'll get injured fast too. Now he looks stupid for not taking that huge extension from Minnesota last year.

And that stream that was posted is not live, they stopped covering free agency at 6. Old news only.

Post #950
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=655379&page=38

I'm cool.

That's a good cap hit for Gabbo.


Update: Gaborik has suffered a paper cut and is out for the next ten years.
hahahahaha

LOL Heatley is probably in tears right now.

Hahahahaha, oh Rangers. Will Sather never, EVER learn?

Championships... are built... from within.

That contract could be a huge steal. But who knows with Gaborik...

I bet there's a multi-million dollar bonus for games played.

Dany is heading to edmonton. guess he was waitin to see what ny would do

I bet there's a multi-million dollar bonus for games played.i bet he never sees that then.

Great Sign By The Rangers.. We Better Get Havlet

Does anyone else think that Brian Burke has a problem with European players other than the Sedins?

Guys, Lou will do what's best. I still would like Chard La Rose and we still can make trades, say for a guy like Marleu. We also have to remember that cap will be coming down and I also think that Lou wants to add some kids to the line-up. My only concern is our toughness, especially against the Flyers.

Ok, heres the corrected amount for gaborik

5 years 7.5 per

Wait, the 5.75 number for Gaborik was wrong. It is actually 7.5 million per year.

http://twitter.com/darrendreger

Let's all point and laugh now

Hahahaha correction on the Gaborik deal: $7.5 per year.

WOW now Gionta On Habs

Wait, the 5.75 number for Gaborik was wrong. It is actually 7.5 million per year.

http://twitter.com/darrendreger

Let's all point and laugh now
I was pointing and laughing before. Now it's just hysterically.

I'm thinking of changing my name to I Hate Bob GAINEY


I take it back. $7.5 million is awesome. HAHAHAHA

Heater definitely wanted to go to the rags over edmonton, that's pretty funny. Oh well.

Did Elias just text Havlat again?

Hahahaha, nevermind then.

WOW now Gionta On Habs

Called it.

Great Sign By The Rangers.. We Better Get Havlet

No bargain, but they still have improved themselves on paper at least.

Lol.

Gio signed with the Habs. they will be this year's Lightning.

7.5

....jesus

If that's Gaborik's true cap number, it's a much better deal than Gomez or Drury. When healthy, he's a gamebreaker.

It's a true boom or bust signing, but that's better than Gomez or Drury which were guaranteed busts off the bat.

If Gaborik's problem with Minnesota was the fact that they played a defensive system where he got little offensive support, he's in for a rude awakening in New York.

Edit: Just saw the updated numbers on Gaborik. Sather never changes. I mean, it's probably market value for a healthy Gaborik, but we all know that's unlikely to happen.

I was kinda pissed when I thought they had a steal (if somehow healthy) on their hands. Now I think it's ****ing hilarious. Sather can't keep it in his pants.

7.5 per year? Sather never fails to entertain.

LOL thats the Rags we know and love. hahahahaha

No bargain, but they still have improved themselves on paper at least.
Cammalleri - Gomez - Gionta, the smurf line. Montreal has made themselves into a joke in the span of a week. These guys are going to buckle under the pressure.

Guess Koivu is on the table for real, now.

Gionta you gave us everything you had. You will be missed.

I want Koivu now!

Wait, the 5.75 number for Gaborik was wrong. It is actually 7.5 million per year.

http://twitter.com/darrendreger

Let's all point and laugh now

:laugh: ya I hit refresh on my tracker thinking "holy ****, maybe Sather really IS a ge... oh. OK Gomez II contract."

Well, if it ain't one thing it's tha mutha ****in otha!


EDIT: Well that's what I get for pointing and laughing. Time to sulk... and change my caption once avatars come back :(

Hahahaha correction on the Gaborik deal: $7.5 per year.

ROFLBONER!

Good Luck in Montreal Gio. Thanks for all the great memories.

Gio signed with the Habs. they will be this year's Lightning.

Eh, the bad idea that was Gomez was made better by bringing in Gionta. Gionta is one of the few players in the league with whom Gomez has been able to establish good chemistry.

We'll miss you Gio good luck in MTL as long as gomez gets hurt.

If that's Gaborik's true cap number, it's a much better deal than Gomez or Drury. When healthy, he's a gamebreaker.

It's a true boom or bust signing, but that's better than Gomez or Drury which were guaranteed busts off the bat.

If Gaborik's problem with Minnesota was the fact that they played a defensive system where he got little offensive support, he's in for a rude awakening in New York.

7.5 million per year for a player that historically has been very injury prone. That has bust written all over it.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=655379&page=39
My grand prediction post:
Clemmensen - Oilers
Gionta - Habs
Rupp - Blue Jackets
Madden - Leafs

Havlat - Rangers
Gaborik - Kings
Hossa - Canucks
Koivu - Devils
Zubov - Devils
Schneider - Blues
Sedins - who gives a ****
Cammalleri - Leafs
Knuble - Panthers
Cole - Bruins
Khabibulin - Blues

That's all I feel like guessing. Goodnight.
Overall I did horrible, but I did call Gio.

Where does it say that Gio signed with the Habs?

Nevermind...

Cammalleri - Gomez - Gionta, the smurf line. Montreal has made themselves into a joke in the span of a week. These guys are going to buckle under the pressure.

Guess Koivu is on the table for real, now.

lol, no, I was actually complimenting Sather's move, if you can believe it.

They had to do it.

wow. peace out gio. take the money and run.

Gio and Gomez back together, guess Gomez was the deal-maker in this case for Gio.

Gionta to Montreal. 5 years 25 million.

http://twitter.com/darrendreger

Good luck to the little bugger I'm glad we didn't re-sign him if that was the price.

if we dont get on the ball we are going to have to worst 2nd line in the NHL

Where does it say that Gio signed with the Habs?

RDS.ca is reporting Gionta's getting 5 years, 25 mil from Montreal. All I can say is thanks Gio, best of luck, and I certainly don't blame you for taking that contract.

Eh, the bad idea that was Gomez was made better by bringing in Gionta. Gionta is one of the few players in the league with whom Gomez has been able to establish good chemistry.

it was a fluke. not the chemistry, the results.

The joke's on Bob Gainey.

Good luck Gio, don't blame you for that kind of money.

Gionta = Rafalski mk2.

We're not willing to pay, so someone else pays way too much.

Hahahaha, 7.5 per for a player who is made of glass. That's the Rangers we know and love.

I really wish some team would hurry up and sign Madden, him still hanging around on the market is making me nervous...

RDS.ca is reporting Gionta's getting 5 years, 25 mil from Montreal. All I can say is thanks Gio, best of luck, and I certainly don't blame you for taking that contract.

WHAT????

I'll miss Gio, but I congratulate Lou on what appears to me to be the right decision in letting him go. I wish him nothing but luck with the Canadiens, except when he's playing against the Devils.

Also, the Rangers signing of Gaborik is either going to look genius or retarded and that depends solely on how healthy he stays. If he starts missing significant time, I'm going to laugh my ass off. They also haven't really helped themselves on the cap hit front. Sather really cannot resist spending all his money, can he?

it was a fluke. not the chemistry, the results.

2005-2006. A cluster**** of a season....

if we dont get on the ball we are going to have to worst 2nd line in the NHL

um. alrighty. you do know we could have the same second line with Rolston in for Gionta, right? no, you don't, who am I kidding. We have Rolston and Elias on our second line, and it's the worst in the league. :laugh:

XFEBFyCBL9Y

I'll miss you, you overpaid runt.

Haha! Sather is a ****ing moron!:biglaugh:

if we dont get on the ball we are going to have to worst 2nd line in the NHL

Holy overreaction Batman!

We still have Elias who was the best player on that line and made the whole line work.

Gionta = Rafalski mk2.

Gainey = Sather mk2

Gionta to Montreal. 5 years 25 million.

http://twitter.com/darrendreger

Good luck to the little bugger I'm glad we didn't re-sign him if that was the price.

Oh my god... 5 million per for a 60 point player. Gainey has truly lost it. How can you possibly be mad at Gionta for taking that one?

Worst contract of the day?

Gainey = Sather mk2
He's definitely trying the Sather solution: Throw money at the problem! Of course, he's in a position that Sather was never in, his whole team went UFA.

Yowzers, 5M per for Gio? Good deal for him.

We still have Elias who was the best player on that line and made the whole line work.

i understand but we need him to play wing not center.

I'll miss you Gio, but I'm glad we aren't paying you $5M.

um. alrighty. you do know we could have the same second line with Rolston in for Gionta, right? no, you don't, who am I kidding. We have Rolston and Elias on our second line, and it's the worst in the league. :laugh:

Honestly, even if we pick up no one, Elias makes our second line better than quite a few 2nd lines, even if we were forced to play him alone :laugh:

i understand but we need him to play wing not center.
We've still got all our centers from last season, and the only top-6 "center" to sign so far today is Cammalleri, so I'm not sure what you're complaining about.

2005-2006. A cluster**** of a season....

This. Power Plays + no one allowing to touch a forward in front of the net = a lot of goals.

I'll miss you Gio, but I'm glad we aren't paying you $5M.

Damn right. I feel no ill will against him for leaving. That contract is ridiculous.

I'll miss Gio, he was a great player.

Honestly, even if we pick up no one, Elias makes our second line better than quite a few 2nd lines, even if we were forced to play him alone :laugh:

Agree. Elias and two scrubs is better than the 2nd line of at least 10 teams in the league, probably more.

Gio's record goal scoring season was memorable, thanks for everything Gio.

We've still got all our centers from last season, and the only top-6 "center" to sign so far today is Cammalleri, so I'm not sure what you're complaining about.

our centers from last season got us a first round exit.. Lou better get larose, havlet and or lang

Everyone else in the division is making moves. What the hell is Lou doing?

I just got really sad. I was hoping he would somehow take a discount to stay.

Koivu?

Patience my friends, I've been comparing this feeding frenzy to Black Friday (Sports Guy had similar thoughts regarding NBA free agency). Most of the time you show up and most of the stuff you wanted is gone and you still feel compelled to buy something for the sake of buying something. Then you end up at home and wonder why you have a copy of Pearl Harbor on Bluray.

our centers from last season got us a first round exit.. Lou better get larose, havlet and or lang

Then we can watch Martin walk away next yr, nice !

According to Dregar, Neil is staying in Ottawa

4 years, 8 mil.

our centers from last season got us a first round exit.. Lou better get larose, havlet and or lang

Havlat isn't a center.

Bye bye Gio, hello Bergfors.

oh i hope we **** both of them up next year, just because they're getn money they don't deserve. Gionta will soon be the next worse contract out there, I promise.

Hmm, I guess Elias texted Havlat and said "gioz gunna dipset, chill wit me and marty"

The key to championships is to build from within. That's what we're doing.

tsn stream plz

I just got really sad. I was hoping he would somehow take a discount to stay.

Koivu?

I was hoping for a discount too. But seriously, Montreal overpaid through the nose, and I don't blame him at all for not turning that down.

Oh my god... 5 million per for a 60 point player. Gainey has truly lost it. How can you possibly be mad at Gionta for taking that one?

Worst contract of the day?

No way man, even I wouldn't want $5M going in that direction (since there's NO CENTER) but it's not like he's only going to be a 60 point player with a Center. C'mon.

Havlat isn't a center.

i know i want him to replace gionta

Bye Gio. I'll shed a tear for you the first time Montreal fans boo you for shooting directly at a goalies chest.

According to Dregar, Neil is staying in Ottawa

4 years, 8 mil.
Too bad, I was hoping the Rangers would throw some more good money after bad.

I held Gionta in the same regard as Rafalski. I liked both of them for the most part but both would piss me off a lot. The huge, ridculous contracts that they both got (especially Gionta's) make it very simple to say thanks and goodbye.

I'm actually sort of excited, now we get to see what Bergfors can really do in the top-6

Patience my friends, I've been comparing this feeding frenzy to Black Friday (Sports Guy had similar thoughts regarding NBA free agency). Most of the time you show up and most of the stuff you wanted is gone and you still feel compelled to buy something for the sake of buying something. Then you end up at home and wonder why you have a copy of Pearl Harbor on Bluray.

Exactly. No one wants to be left out. So far, with many of the guys we could sign and not **** ourselves still availible, we've made the right choice standing pat. We'll have to do something at some point, but no need to rush into anything and get ****ed.

Everyone else in the division is making moves. What the hell is Lou doing?

Nothing and I'm loving it. What the hell do you want him to do, overpay for free agents ala Rolston and Holik? Malakhov and Mogilny? Vishnevski?

Let every other team overpay for free agents.

Everyone else in the division is making moves. What the hell is Lou doing?

Making moves does not necessarily = good. I'm glad Lou stayed out of some of the madness that occured today.

Everyone else in the division is making moves. What the hell is Lou doing?

Dude, it's July. The time of year Mr. Lamoriello Hibernates.

Patience my friends, I've been comparing this feeding frenzy to Black Friday (Sports Guy had similar thoughts regarding NBA free agency). Most of the time you show up and most of the stuff you wanted is gone and you still feel compelled to buy something for the sake of buying something. Then you end up at home and wonder why you have a copy of Pearl Harbor on Bluray.

:laugh:

i know i want him to replace gionta
Rolston/Bergfors

Chris Neil stays in OTT, 4 years, 8 million.

i know i want him to replace gionta

Nooooo no no. Unnecessary use of money. We can use Rolston or Bergfors there.

any words on Gionta? how is he? Is he good defensively? I feel like 5m/yr is a lot for a 20 goal scorer :(

Patience my friends, I've been comparing this feeding frenzy to Black Friday (Sports Guy had similar thoughts regarding NBA free agency). Most of the time you show up and most of the stuff you wanted is gone and you still feel compelled to buy something for the sake of buying something. Then you end up at home and wonder why you have a copy of Pearl Harbor on Bluray.

Kate Beckinsale?

any words on Gionta? how is he? Is he good defensively? I feel like 5m/yr is a lot for a 20 goal scorer :(

Very good fore and back checker. Plays hard. Good in playoffs.

That said you still over-paid by about 1.5 mill

someone plz hook me up with TSN stream

5 million is an awful lot.

any words on Gionta? how is he? Is he good defensively? I feel like 5m/yr is a lot for a 20 goal scorer :(
Have fun with that.

How did someone manage to post in the closed Gionta thread?

I'm not complaining; just curious.

He was making $4M. What would have been an ok contract for him? I'd like to know by how much we overpaid. If it's the normal Montreal "Tax".

any words on Gionta? how is he? Is he good defensively? I feel like 5m/yr is a lot for a 20 goal scorer :(

Fan favorite in no time there. I'll miss him.

He was making $4M. What would have been an ok contract for him? I'd like to know by how much we overpaid. If it's the normal Montreal "Tax".
$3.5M, $4M max.

someone plz hook me up with TSN stream

There is no TSN stream. They got Canuck football on now.

There is no TSN stream. They got Canuck football on now.

god damn

Hmm, I guess Elias texted Havlat and said "gioz gunna dipset, chill wit me and marty"
i wish dipset was still around. cam made his own group now called the u.n.

any words on Gionta? how is he? Is he good defensively? I feel like 5m/yr is a lot for a 20 goal scorer :(

Yes.

Relentless.

Absolutely, as well as on the forecheck.

It could go either way, but my $'s on that turning into a :) once you see him with a line that has all 3 positions on it.

OK, I kind of feel better already. I promise no more Gio whining from me. Congrats on a good deal Gio.

if he plays off the half-boards, you just wasted alot of money. I do like the guy, though.
he has PK potential, is a pretty good checker, he is a master of deflections, but the issues is... will he be able to play in front of the net. with who he is likely to play with, I dunno. especially since the criteria of what is a penalty has gone down and defenders have adjusted.

I'm just looking for a clearout, so this makes me happy.

I'm borderline horny about this. There's only one more to go.

Nothing and I'm loving it. What the hell do you want him to do, overpay for free agents ala Rolston and Holik? Malakhov and Mogilny? Vishnevski?

Let every other team overpay for free agents.

I am happy he is cautious with overpayment but the centers are running slim now, and Elias might be the best one avail. that being we need a RW. It's official..... Operation REBUILD

Kate Beckinsale?

:nod:

Cuba Gooding should of got a bigger role.

god damn

What aboot TSN2?

He was making $4M. What would have been an ok contract for him? I'd like to know by how much we overpaid. If it's the normal Montreal "Tax".
he's somewhere between 3-3.5 million, 3.5 over 3 or 4 years would have made more sense, he's been on the decline since his 48 goal break out

I liked Gio, but he had to go. NEXT.

any words on Gionta? how is he? Is he good defensively? I feel like 5m/yr is a lot for a 20 goal scorer :(

He's good for about 3-3.5 million/year.

any words on Gionta? how is he? Is he good defensively? I feel like 5m/yr is a lot for a 20 goal scorer :(

He's very good defensively, but not elite. He was probably the best forechecker on the Devils last year. Never takes a game off, always works hard, and plays bigger than his size. But he's also a 60 point winger who lacks size.

He's the type of player any team could use for 3-4 million. Not at all worth the contract Montreal gave him.

tsn may be off, but puck daddy is still farting around

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Puck-Daddy-s-2009-Free-Agent-Frenzy-Chatter-Box?urn=nhl,174049

if he plays off the half-boards, you just wasted alot of money. I do like the guy, though.
he has PK potential, is a pretty good checker, he is a master of deflections, but the issues is... will he be able to play in front of the net. with who he is likely to play with, I dunno. especially since the criteria of what is a penalty has gone down and defenders have adjusted.

I'm just looking for a clearout, so this makes me happy.

I'm borderline horny about this. There's only one more to go.

Gionta is a niche player who hasn't actually played in his niche since the season after the lockout. Mostly because he's too small to play in his niche.

The one who really needs to go is Madden. He's the one who causes active damage by being in our lineup.

I am happy he is cautious with overpayment but the centers are running slim now, and Elias might be the best one avail. that being we need a RW. It's official..... Operation REBUILD

Running slim? Who was signed? Pahlsson.

Some of you guys crack me up.

that's really with one of the issues with Gio... is it him, or did Parise just ursurp his role as garbageman supreme.

wow, stop for a moment and look at Montreal thus far. Are they really turning into a contender?

Dreger needs to tweet more dammit

wow, stop for a moment and look at Montreal thus far. Are they really turning into a contender?
Tampa Bay.

Gionta to Montreal?

Z_u7VGiMO0U

ALBATROSS CONTRACT.

wow, stop for a moment and look at Montreal thus far. Are they really turning into a contender?

Not at all.

there goes a jersey and t-shirt.

what did Gio do to earn a raise? Gainey is banking everything on him regaining his 48goal form and Gomez his 06-07 form.

wow, stop for a moment and look at Montreal thus far. Are they really turning into a contender?

no, a total cluster****. this is what Tampa did last season.

Does Markov have a good deflectable shot or is it more of a bomb? I feel Gionta missed Rafalski's deflectable shot more than he missed Gomez.

Koivu and Leopold please.

Do Markov have a good deflectable shot or is it more of a bomb? I feel Gionta missed Rafalski's deflectable shot more than he missed Gomez.
Good question. It could make or break Gionta in Montreal.

Gionta to Montreal?

Z_u7VGiMO0U

ALBATROSS CONTRACT.

It's a bad contract but it isn't an albatross (don't get me wrong I'm glad the Devs didn't re-sign him for that). 7.5 mil per year for Marian "I'm hurt all year" Gaborik is an albatross.

I don't want to see the word rebuild as long as Marty is still playing. Its Ludicrous.

Sure we have a nice quaint team, but its no cup champion, we won't make it through Pittsburgh or Philly.

When is something going to happen? It's almost bedtime.

I gotta feeling Lou might offer some ridiculous contract to Havlat, I hope I'm wrong

Madden is an (e4) to the Hawks

Gionta for $5 million/year in Montreal and Gaborik for $7.5 million/year in NY. The Devils are looking good cap-wise after next season.

If the Devils can snag Koivu, that would be nice even if it's for $4 million/year. Every signing will look good next to Montreal and NY.

AND ANOTHER THING: It also hurts Boston as Kessel's price just shot up here.

I don't want to see the word rebuild as long as Marty is still playing. Its Ludicrous.

Sure we have a nice quaint team, but its no cup champion, we won't make it through Pittsburgh or Philly.
We have no idea what we have and won't until we get to camp.

Koivu and Leopold please.

Shanahan and Beauchemin please.

Do Markov have a good deflectable shot or is it more of a bomb? I feel Gionta missed Rafalski's deflectable shot more than he missed Gomez.Markov has a pretty low shot. We also just signed Spacek who has a good point shot.

Madden to hawks e4

Madden is an (e4) to the Hawks

If thats true, Tallon HAS to give up one of Barker, Keith, or Seabrook.

what realistic, impact centre are avail??????

MOrrison?????
Comrie?????
Antropov?
Koivu?

I don't recognize anyone else interesting and half that list is not interesting

Eklund is full of ****. Keep his name out of this thread.

LOL 5 million a year. Thank you, thank you, thank you lou!!!!!!!

Gio to habs?!?!? wow

Originally posted by Classic Devil
We have no idea what we have and won't until we get to camp.

Your right I'm jumping the gun.

But we need to play to win for this and the next 3 years.

I'll take Seabrook

zGiUCY8DCPk

With Gio gone and Madden likely gone is it worth taking a run at havlat now ?

Your right I'm jumping the gun.

But we need to play to win for this and the next 3 years.
No kidding.

Looks like another guy just interested in money. *********

With Gio gone and Madden likely gone is it worth taking a run at havlat now ?

Havlat doesn't fill any of our holes.

With Gio gone and Madden likely gone is it worth taking a run at havlat now ?
Depends on cost and duration.

With Gio gone and Madden likely gone is it worth taking a run at havlat now ?

yessss. although gaborik might have set the bar pretty high now

Linkage to Madden to Hawks (e4) please?

With Gio gone and Madden likely gone is it worth taking a run at havlat now ?

Yes.

ya i think its safe to go for Havlat

Lou seems to be alluding to TG that he's standing pat. Suggesting Frazee as the backup goalie, but I'm sure even he knows that's crazy talk.

Sjostrom to Flames.

Linkage to Madden to Hawks (e4) please?
If it has an (e), it doesn't mean anything.

Madden is an (e4) to the Hawks

That's a pretty good, if not perfect, landing spot for Madden if it's true.

Havlat doesn't fill any of our holes.
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Put havlat with Elias and Zubrus.

Elias-Zubrus-Havlat

The wings are so freaking creative, you can put a mediocre player like Zubrus at center... and they will score! We're stuck with Zubrus anyway, might as well cater to that fact. Havlat is a great player, and I can only imagine how good the two would be together.

If thats true, Tallon HAS to give up one of Barker, Keith, or Seabrook.

Barker is an RFA this year. Both of the others have at least a year on their contracts. If anyone gets moved it's Barker I think.

I do not want Lou to overpay for anyone. Sign Lang for one year and a cheap puckmover. Sign LaRose to a 1.5-2 mill. Promote Bergfors into Gionta's role, he has paid his dues and deserves to play on the big club now. Promote Corrente as well as. We might not have the same sucess as previous year but at least we wont be up against the cap and have a great chance to resign Martin to a contract he deserves and then sign Parise the year after.

Lou seems to be alluding to TG that he's standing pat. Suggesting Frazee as the backup goalie, but I'm sure even he knows that's crazy talk.

standard operating procedure, no?

it seems as if Lou is just standing pat in preparation for the Cap Disaster of 2010

The key to championships is to build from within. That's what we're doing.

It takes much more than that.

There was also a little divine intervention and close to last place finishes involved too.

We are not going to get a solid, consistent gem of a Ken Daneyko defenseman, unless we get another higher type of draft pick at #18, which is where we selected him.

We are not going to have Toronto trade for one of our solid, young defenseman (which we don't really have now anyway) in exchange for their first round draft pick, and then in turn have Toronto all of sudden tank during their season, which then leads us to use that 1st round pick and selecting a generational Scott Niedermayer with the #3 overall pick in the draft.

We are not going to have another ONCE IN A LIFETIME scenario of having a judge (of all people) land us a a stud defenseman that turns out to be our greatest captain and an incredible leader. And by the way, the genesis to us landing this player was earning the #2 overall pick in Brendan Shanahan.

We are also not going to have a generational HOF goalie fall into our lap due to the stupidity of other GM's

Whoever doesn't didn't want Jay Bouwmeester is out of their minds. This is the type of quality player you win a Championship with. The only way you can get a player of this magnitude (or other impact players) is through free agency.

Yes, I know there is a salary cap and we have no assets or hot prospects to dangle in a trade, but the only other way to get impact players is to trade Zach Parise, the only player that would land us an "impact" player, or go the free agency route.

Or then again, we can hold our breaths for Daneyko, Stevens, Niedermayer & Brodeur to once again fall into our laps.

Not.

I haven't lost faith in Lou (yet) but it is significant to note that in addition to his smart drafting & trading, we've also had a little divine intervention that really, really, really helped push us over the top.

Now it's Madden's turn to leave. Please.

Gio at $5 mil for 5 years, better them than us. As for Sather, if you look at it as Gaborik, Higgins & McDonaugh for Gomez, he had a pretty good day.

It takes much more than that.

There was also a little divine intervention and close to last place finishes involved too.

We are not going to get a solid, consistent gem of a Ken Daneyko defenseman, unless we get another higher type of draft pick at #18, which is where we selected him.

We are not going to have Toronto trade for one of our solid, young defenseman (which we don't really have now anyway) in exchange for their first round draft pick, and then in turn have Toronto all of sudden tank during their season, which then leads us to use that 1st round pick and selecting a generational Scott Niedermayer with the #3 overall pick in the draft.

We are not going to a ONCE IN A LIFETIME scenario of having a judge (of all people) land us a a stud defenseman that turns out to be our greatest captain and an incredible leader. The genesis to us landting this player was earning the #3 overall pick in Brendan Shanahan.

We are also not going to have a generational HOF goalie fall into our lap due to the stupidity of other GM's

Whoever doesn't didn't want Jay Bouwmeester is out of their minds. This is the type of quality player you win a Championship with. The only way you can get a player of this magnitude (or other impact players) is through free agency.

Yes, I know there is a salary cap and we have no assets or hot prospects to dangle in a trade, but the only other way to get impact players is to trade Zach Parise, the only player that would land us an "impact" player, or go the free agency route.

Or then again, we can hold our breaths for Daneyko, Stevens, Niedermayer & Brodeur to once again fall into our laps.

Not.

I haven't lost faith in Lou (yet) but it is significant to note that in addition to his smart drafting & trading, we've also had a little divine intervention that really, really, really helped push us over the top.
So what, throw up our hands and pray? Yes, it requires luck as well as skill. That's fine. It's also the right way to go about building a winning franchise.

Good deal for Gio, I´ll miss him. Poor guy, going to MTL.

And hahahahahaha @Sather.

Rolston/Bergfors

you have to bekidding me.. Bergfors so far has done nothing at the NHL level. I will give you that much that he deserves a shot but he does not backcheck like we would like. Rolston our 5Mil 36yro omg..

With Gio gone and Madden likely gone is it worth taking a run at havlat now ?

Only if he's willing to take less to play with this good buddy, which I'd say is unlikely.

It wouldn't be a terrible idea to stand pat for several days until after the initial frenzy has died down. The longer players wait in the free agent pool, the lower their bargaining power. That's typically the case anyway.

you have to bekidding me.. Bergfors so far has done nothing at the NHL level. I will give you that much that he deserves a shot but he does not backcheck like we would like. Rolston our 5Mil 36yro omg..

Neither of them have gotten consistent time on the top-six so I don't know how you can write them off yet.

you have to bekidding me.. Bergfors so far has done nothing at the NHL level. I will give you that much that he deserves a shot but he does not backcheck like we would like. Rolston our 5Mil 36yro omg..
You make definitive statements about the quality of play of a player we've never seen take a regular shift. And Rolston is still a top-6 forward.

Madden - CHicago, 1yr 2.75M

do we have a team for next season?

do we have a team for next season?
I don't think anyone has revoked our franchise.

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Put havlat with Elias and Zubrus.

Elias-Zubrus-Havlat

The wings are so freaking creative, you can put a mediocre player like Zubrus at center... and they will score! We're stuck with Zubrus anyway, might as well cater to that fact. Havlat is a great player, and I can only imagine how good the two would be together.

Yup, and Elias and Havlat are responsible enough defensively that we could use it as a 20 minute a night "checking line" with Zubrus as the primary checker.

So what, throw up our hands and pray? Yes, it requires luck as well as skill. That's fine. It's also the right way to go about building a winning franchise.

Smart drafting, free agent signings and key trades.

We need to stress free agent signings and hopefully Rolston was a start. Free agent signings is the only real way right now to overcome the miracle of us amassing all-world, star-quality players that helped push our homegrown players over the top and win Championships.

A little prayer helps too.

Mad Dog. Dead and gone.

How great would it be to see havlat in a devils jersey next season?

they're gone! hell yeah!

Madden to Chicago 1 year 2.75 mill. Per Dreger

Madden to Chicago.

Good luck mad dog and gio

Smart drafting, free agent signings and key trades.

We need to stress free agent signings and hopefully Rolston was a start. Free agent signings is the only real way to overcome the miracle of us amassing the miracle of landing star-quality players that helped push our homegrown over the top.

A little prayer helps too.
I don't see a single free agent who is both cap-friendly and a worthwhile addition with the exception of LaRose (depending on price).

Holy youngsters batman

Madden to Chicago 1 year 2.75 mill. Per Dreger
Whooooo! :nod:

...pause....


Put havlat with Elias and Zubrus.

Elias-Zubrus-Havlat

The wings are so freaking creative, you can put a mediocre player like Zubrus at center... and they will score! We're stuck with Zubrus anyway, might as well cater to that fact. Havlat is a great player, and I can only imagine how good the two would be together.

The idea of Havlat in NJ is starting to grow on me.

How great would it be to see havlat in a devils jersey next season?

amazing. absolutely amazing.

I don't think anyone has revoked our franchise.

you know what i meant, lol.

so what's gonna happen now. we've lost 5 forwards.

Rupp, Gionta, Madden, Shanahan (UFA), Holik (ret)

Shanahan is a possible returnee but who will replace?

Gayness, it'll be weird seeing Madden in a Hawks sweater and Gio in Habs. Don't like change.

Yes!!!

Gayness, it'll be weird seeing Madden in a Hawks sweater and Gio in Habs. Don't like change.
I don't like stagnation.

How much cap space is that now? (excluding Zajac)

OK, I could deal with all the others gone, but Maddog. I feel sick.

I know it had to be done though.

Sick.

Lou wake the **** up.

Is that overpayment for Madden?

It wouldn't be a terrible idea to stand pat for several days until after the initial frenzy has died down. The longer players wait in the free agent pool, the lower their bargaining power. That's typically the case anyway.


Agreed. I was hoping that would be the case with Gionta, but it was not to be.

The only non-center FA who I'd like to add, given the right circumstances, is Havlat. And that's only for a one, maximum two year contract. Same goes for Koivu, although Koivu fills more of a direct need. Lang is still my top choice period because he's cheap and one year for sure.

BYE JOHN!:handclap::handclap::handclap:

Is that overpayment for Madden?
It's about what he's worth on the market. He'll be good in Chicago.

OK, I could deal with all the others gone, but Maddog. I feel sick.

I know it had to be done though.

Sick.

I know, I'm feeling sentimental right now too. But the world must keep turning.

OK, I could deal with all the others gone, but Maddog. I feel sick.

I know it had to be done though.

Sick.

Agreed.

Good luck Mad dog. You will be missed.

Madden fills the role Pahlsson had with Chicago in the playoffs. I think it's a good fit for them - he's a veteran voice on a young up and coming team.

I don't see a single free agent who is both cap-friendly and a worthwhile addition with the exception of LaRose (depending on price).

That's very true, but it's also subjective.

Many people feel (and still feel) that Lou overpaid for Brian Rolston.

He has yet to pay dividends but I'm giving him this season to prove himself.

Gionta cost us game 2 and I was pissed at him for it that ****. And the gaborik deal is retarded.

Havlat and/or Beauchemin(sp?) and I'm happy

oh my god, they're all gone!!! this can't ****ing be!!!

and here is the reaction everywhere but here. :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

that is, if all those little guys could run into each other and fall over. we have some dumb fans.

I'm more sad to see John go then any others so far. Thanks for what you did for NJ John.

That's very true, but it's also subjective.

Many people feel (and still feel) that Lou overpaid for Brian Rolston.

He has yet to pay dividends but I'm giving him this season to prove himself.
He did overpay for Rolston. But when he did, we had more flexibility than we currently do.

Why do I feel unhappy every July 1st ???