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TeamConcept 07-01-2009, 06:42 PM If some team out there gave Zajac an offer sheet I am
wondering if Lou would match it. I like Zajac. He clicks
with Zac and Jamie, but his play can be very inconsistent.
He is a right-hand shot who gives an honest effort
every night. However, would you break the bank to
keep him? He is not a Parise. I guess our top two
centers would be Rolston and Zubrus. At least they
would be paid like top two centers at 5.0 and 3.4
respectively.
Classic Devil 07-01-2009, 06:43 PM Depends on the sheet.
Harrison Ford 07-01-2009, 06:45 PM Depends on the sheet.
No, depending on the street.
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Devilsfanatic 07-01-2009, 06:45 PM No one is giving Zajac an offer sheet.
If it was the 5 first rounders, no matching.
If it's anything over 4.5 they won't match.
Saugus 07-01-2009, 06:47 PM If some team out there gave Zajac an offer sheet I am
wondering if Lou would match it. I like Zajac. He clicks
with Zac and Jamie, but his play can be very inconsistent.
He is a right-hand shot who gives an honest effort
every night. However, would you break the bank to
keep him? He is not a Parise. I guess our top two
centers would be Rolston and Zubrus. At least they
would be paid like top two centers at 5.0 and 3.4
respectively.
Anything up to 3.9 M I would match. Above that, we'd get a first, second and third as compensation. Hopefully it won't come to that.
jkrdevil 07-01-2009, 06:51 PM No one is giving an offer sheet after the Dustin Penner debacle.
Saugus 07-01-2009, 06:54 PM No one is giving an offer sheet after the Dustin Penner debacle.
They aren't giving out big offer sheets. I think Vancouver matched one that St Louis threw at one of their RFAs. Or was it St Louis matching one that Vancouver offered? I can't remember, either way there's always one or two every year.
TheDevilMadeMe 07-01-2009, 06:58 PM Anything up to 3.9 M I would match. Above that, we'd get a first, second and third as compensation. Hopefully it won't come to that.
The Devils match an offer sheet that gives a first, second, and third. The only possible question is once it gets to the level of 4 firsts.
britdevil 07-01-2009, 07:01 PM I am a little worried about this happening, like someone allready mentioned, there are usually a couple of offer sheets every year.
Apprehensive, but I think Lou gets him signed on his terms. Going into next season with Rolston and Zubrus (natural wingers) as our top two centres is a yeccch worthy thought.
Darius Dangleaitis 07-01-2009, 07:01 PM All I know, dog, is that she's careless with her dog. I'm not sure what she does except she makes me want her. She makes me want to get on top of her.
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Saugus 07-01-2009, 07:02 PM The Devils match an offer sheet that gives a first, second, and third. The only possible question is once it gets to the level of 4 firsts.
4 firsts is only for contracts with an average value of 6.5 M or higher. I doubt the Devils would be willing to overpay that much for Zajac by matching stuff between that and 3.9.
ziggyluc 07-01-2009, 07:03 PM "Why are we still paying so much for sneakers when you got little kid slaves making them
What are your overheads? "
TheDevilMadeMe 07-01-2009, 07:09 PM 4 firsts is only for contracts with an average value of 6.5 M or higher. I doubt the Devils would be willing to overpay that much for Zajac by matching stuff between that and 3.9.
I think the real question is would the Devils been willing to match a 6.4 million dollar offer.... I have no idea. At that point, it's a tough decision.
Saugus 07-01-2009, 07:11 PM I think the real question is would the Devils been willing to match a 6.4 million dollar offer.... I have no idea. At that point, it's a tough decision.
I don't think it is. At that salary, the compensation is 2 firsts, a second and a third. Take the picks and run away laughing because the other team just screwed themselves with the cap.
TheDevilMadeMe 07-01-2009, 07:20 PM I don't think it is. At that salary, the compensation is 2 firsts, a second and a third. Take the picks and run away laughing because the other team just screwed themselves with the cap.
I'm not sure I'd be laughing about losing the only scoring center in the organization for a bunch of picks that may or may not be NHL players in 3-4 years.
We lose Zajac, it might be time to think about trading Brodeur for futures because we would have little hope of truly contending for 3-4 years.
Just because it would be a bad move for the other team doesn't make it a good move for NJ.
AfroThunder396 07-01-2009, 08:16 PM Any team that signs him to an offer sheet might be disappointed when they realize that Zach Parise isn't part of the package.
Saugus 07-01-2009, 08:18 PM I'm not sure I'd be laughing about losing the only scoring center in the organization for a bunch of picks that may or may not be NHL players in 3-4 years.
We lose Zajac, it might be time to think about trading Brodeur for futures because we would have little hope of truly contending for 3-4 years.
Just because it would be a bad move for the other team doesn't make it a good move for NJ.
We don't want Zajac at that high a salary, we can use that cap space for someone else. If Zajac gets a ridiculous offer sheet like that, his contract is going to turn into an albatross quickly. No player (with the possible exception of Marty) is irreplaceable.
Classic Devil 07-01-2009, 08:19 PM We don't want Zajac at that high a salary, we can use that cap space for someone else. If Zajac gets a ridiculous offer sheet like that, his contract is going to turn into an albatross quickly. No player (with the possible exception of Marty) is irreplaceable.
Losing Zajac for no NHL assets would cripple us for a season or two, however.
kyle evs48 07-01-2009, 08:19 PM Losing Zajac for no NHL assets would cripple us for a season or two, however.
Severely.
NJDEVIL 07-01-2009, 08:23 PM well i think you can be sure this is Lamo's last year. Vanderbeek won't put up with this **** for long. He wants to win and no bidding is not winning!
TheDevilMadeMe 07-01-2009, 08:25 PM We don't want Zajac at that high a salary, we can use that cap space for someone else. If Zajac gets a ridiculous offer sheet like that, his contract is going to turn into an albatross quickly. No player (with the possible exception of Marty) is irreplaceable.
Who though? When was the last time a #1 center actually hit unrestricted free agency? Scott Gomez, Chris Drury, Daniel Briere - these are the type of guys you get through free agency. Zajac is in the same tier as those guys already, and he's young enough where he has a chance to end up clearly better than any of them. Also, he has crazy chemistry with Parise, and you can't buy chemistry. I mean, we could sign Koivu (and might anyway), but at this stage of his career, he's a huge downgrade from Zajac.
Obviously most players are replaceable in theory, but you have to be able to actually get the replacement from somewhere. When the Devils were known as a "team of replaceable parts," they had a defensive core of Stevens, Niedermayer, and Daneyko to anchor those parts.
Saugus 07-01-2009, 08:29 PM Who though? When was the last time a #1 center actually hit unrestricted free agency? Scott Gomez, Chris Drury, Daniel Briere - these are the type of guys you get through free agency. Zajac is in the same tier as those guys already, and he's young enough where he has a chance to get better than them. Also, he has crazy chemistry with Parise, and you can't buy chemistry. I mean, we could sign Koivu (and might anyway), but at this stage of his career, he's a huge downgrade from Zajac.
Obviously most players are replaceable in theory, but you have to be able to actually get the replacement from somewhere.
You'd probably trade for a legitimate centre rather than getting one via free agency. It's a difficult conundrum to be in. I'd want to keep Zajac, but how can you for such a crippling cap hit? We'd have to start trading other players. I just hope Lou gets it done without any of this nasty offer sheet business.
NJDEVIL 07-01-2009, 08:40 PM guys chill out and take a back seat on the ride to nowhere. cause thats where we're going.
sveiglar 07-01-2009, 08:48 PM Gio gets 5M per for 5 yrs from the Habs... what's wrong with the world today?
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ziggyluc 07-01-2009, 09:28 PM "Why are we still paying so much for sneakers when you got little kid slaves making them
What are your overheads? "
Gio gets 5M per for 5 yrs from the Habs... what's wrong with the world today?
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But I really doubt we'll have problems resigning Zajac.
Gunnar Stahl 30 07-01-2009, 09:54 PM wahts the word on zajac? why hasnt anything been said about where he stands and if we signed him/are signing him????
Classic Devil 07-01-2009, 09:56 PM People, Parise wasn't signed until August when he was RFA. Relax.
Gunnar Stahl 30 07-01-2009, 10:00 PM People, Parise wasn't signed until August when he was RFA. Relax.
i thought they only had a certain amount of time to sign him until he became a ufa
britdevil 07-01-2009, 10:01 PM i thought they only had a certain amount of time to sign him until he became a ufa
He was qualified.
NJDEVIL 07-01-2009, 10:03 PM might as well lose him too, save a few bucks, LOL
Classic Devil 07-01-2009, 10:03 PM i thought they only had a certain amount of time to sign him until he became a ufa
Yeah, until he turns 27.
Gunnar Stahl 30 07-01-2009, 10:07 PM He was qualified.
ahh ok
Yeah, until he turns 27.
i feel this post was laced with sarcasm
Classic Devil 07-01-2009, 10:09 PM ahh ok
i feel this post was laced with sarcasm
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I'm uppity today.
sveiglar 07-01-2009, 10:34 PM I'm not convinced they get Zajac done for as little as Parise got just given the way RFAs have gone in the time since Parise signed, but I'd say he gets less than Krejci. I'd be happy with a number between 3.25 and 3.5, but if Lou gets it done for less than Parise's 3.15, then all the better. But either way, it will get done.
NJDEVILS17 07-01-2009, 10:41 PM Only idiots like Kevin Lowe would throw $10 million at Travis Zajac. I have a feeling Lou will get him signed. He's part of the future of this team.
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