Status of Beauchemin and Wisniewski

Both Beauchemin and Wisniewski are top 4 d-men and it would be great for Anaheim to keep both. With Sbisa coming to Anaheim in the Pronger trade, it doesn't leave much room for these guys. I was just wondering if Anaheim can afford to keep both of them and if not who would they keep?

Looks like both are going to free agency. Before the draft, Beauchemin's agent said that if Niedermayer returned it would pretty much eliminate the Ducks from signing him. That was because he is looking for a fairly large deal. Murray said, in terms of Wisniewski, that he hopes that the offers tendered to Wisniewski are not too big. Trading Pronger may have changed his thoughts on their situations, but I doubt in terms of money because we only cleared about 1.25 million in cap space.

Murray has stated that Wiz is a priority. I don't have any doubts in my mind he will be resigned.

As I have said previously, and again take it for what it is worth. But I spoke with one of the players on the team and he told me Beauchemin isn't coming back to Anaheim. He expects 4+ million and a long term deal. Now with that said he may not get that with the economy being what it is and the cap expected to go down after this season.

But the player also told me Beauchemin has been very open about wanting to be somewhere on the East Coast closer to home.

Murray has stated that Wiz is a priority. I don't have any doubts in my mind he will be resigned.

As I have said previously, and again take it for what it is worth. But I spoke with one of the players on the team and he told me Beauchemin isn't coming back to Anaheim. He expects 4+ million and a long term deal. Now with that said he may not get that with the economy being what it is and the cap expected to go down after this season.

But the player also told me Beauchemin has been very open about wanting to be somewhere on the East Coast closer to home.

Did the anonymous player have any other insights into who might be staying and leaving? :D

You could just give him back to Chicago... that is an option. :) I miss that guy, but I like the ducks and hope he sticks around for you guys.

Beauchemin is solid...but I don't want to pay 4M a year when we are already paying Whitney 4M (cap avg) a year. I'll sign Wiz for 2.5M/yr instead and have a lot more return on the PP and PK.

Bring Sbisa and Mikkelson/Festerling/Mitera/Gardiner up to round out the top 5-6(7) and we got a solid set of D next year.

Beauchemin is solid...but I don't want to pay 4M a year when we are already paying Whitney 4M (cap avg) a year. I'll sign Wiz for 2.5M/yr instead and have a lot more return on the PP and PK.

Bring Sbisa and Mikkelson/Festerling/Mitera/Gardiner up to round out the top 5-6(7) and we got a solid set of D next year.

Gardiner is nowhere near NHL ready yet, and Festerling is barely serviceable in my opinion.

Sbisa will probably start the season with us, and one of Mitera/Salcido.

Did the anonymous player have any other insights into who might be staying and leaving? :D

He told me he is very close on a deal to resign with the Ducks:). Pronger would be traded. And the only other thing I can say is Ebbet most likely won't be our 2nd line center.

He told me he is very close on a deal to resign with the Ducks:). Pronger would be traded. And the only other thing I can say is Ebbet most likely won't be our 2nd line center.

awesome. :nod:

He told me he is very close on a deal to resign with the Ducks:). Pronger would be traded. And the only other thing I can say is Ebbet most likely won't be our 2nd line center.

GEEE WIZ! Wonder who it is? :sarcasm:

I hope that the Koivu rumors are true :D

He told me he is very close on a deal to resign with the Ducks:). Pronger would be traded. And the only other thing I can say is Ebbet most likely won't be our 2nd line center.
Bah. You get my hopes up every year.

Bah. You get my hopes up every year.

I do? Have I made statements like this every year?

I'm not trying to get hopes up or anything. Fact is I take these things with a grain of salt myself. Unless I was directly getting my information from Murray or something. Which isn't the case.

Just trying to relay as much inside info I can without sounding like certain people on this board who claim inside info as gospel.

GEEE WIZ! Wonder who it is? :sarcasm:

I hope that the Koivu rumors are true :D

It's not Scott if that was your thinking. :D

Again he didn't speculate as to who would be coming in to be the 2nd line center, just that they expressed hopes of filling that position with someone more capable than Andrew.

I do? Have I made statements like this every year?

I'm not trying to get hopes up or anything. Fact is I take these things with a grain of salt myself. Unless I was directly getting my information from Murray or something. Which isn't the case.

Just trying to relay as much inside info I can without sounding like certain people on this board who claim inside info as gospel.

I think you do a good job of relaying the information without sounding like it's a certain thing, and it's very appreciated. It's definitely welcome since Wildcat moved on :(

I do? Have I made statements like this every year?

I'm not trying to get hopes up or anything. Fact is I take these things with a grain of salt myself. Unless I was directly getting my information from Murray or something. Which isn't the case.

Just trying to relay as much inside info I can without sounding like certain people on this board who claim inside info as gospel.
Was kidding, Frink, though you have played this part at least once before.

No need to Frink out on me.

It's not Scott if that was your thinking. :D

Again he didn't speculate as to who would be coming in to be the 2nd line center, just that they expressed hopes of filling that position with someone more capable than Andrew.

Nah I think it's pretty obvious that it's Marchant.

It's not Scott if that was your thinking. :D

Again he didn't speculate as to who would be coming in to be the 2nd line center, just that they expressed hopes of filling that position with someone more capable than Andrew.

Since we're playing a guessing game I'll throw in my pick. It's gotta be someone who would still be in Anaheim after the season was over (presumably that this info was given to you recently) and it's obviously someone who has an expiring contract. My guess is Todd Marchant. His kids would need to finish school and there's been rumors that he's negotiation a new contract. At least I hope you are talking about Marchant because I really want him back.

I do? Have I made statements like this every year?

I'm not trying to get hopes up or anything. Fact is I take these things with a grain of salt myself. Unless I was directly getting my information from Murray or something. Which isn't the case.

Just trying to relay as much inside info I can without sounding like certain people on this board who claim inside info as gospel.
You didn't say "Book it" or "Bro" or use the shakehead smiley. Therefore I don't believe you.

Since we're playing a guessing game I'll throw in my pick. It's gotta be someone who would still be in Anaheim after the season was over (presumably that this info was given to you recently) and it's obviously someone who has an expiring contract. My guess is Todd Marchant. His kids would need to finish school and there's been rumors that he's negotiation a new contract. At least I hope you are talking about Marchant because I really want him back.

Why would u want marchant back? He is good at faceoffs which is good but he doesn't exactly have the offensive abilities the ducks need. The ducks are pretty much set for d-men if they are able to re-sign wisniewski or beauchemin, so now they need to focus on making the team better offensively. Anaheim could have gone farther in the playoffs if they had more than one line that was a threat offensively. So the ducks need to find someone with good vision who can feed selanne and lupul on the second line. Certainly that someone is not todd marchant.

Obviously no one (other than the blue jackets) signs Marchant for offense. That's not what he's for. That's like signing Kariya to be your enforcer.

Marchant proved his value in the playoffs, even had he never scored a point.

Why would u want marchant back?

Two questions:

1) How many goals did Pavel Datsyuk manage to score against the Ducks during the playoffs?

2) What center did Carlyle line up against Pavel Datsyuk at even strength during the Detroit series?

If you can answer those two it might help answer why the Ducks want Marchant back, he is a warrior and worked his ass off down the stretch. Marchant was one of the main reasons the Ducks even made the playoffs in the first place.

Aside from what's already been said about Marchant's shutdown play, he's also one of the best locker room guys we have. He always plays with 110% effort, never taking a shift off and that attitude is still there in the locker room as well.


Not to mention, his son is the best Ducks correspondent there is :handclap:

Not to be Mr. doom & gloom but what if Wiz doesn't re sign? What do we do then?

Not to be Mr. doom & gloom but what if Wiz doesn't re sign? What do we do then?

Well the only way he doesn't resign is if someone throws a crazy offer at him. He is an RFA so we have the right to match any offer that comes his way. That being said if someone offers him upwards of 4 million, then we take the picks, he walks, and we use that money on someone else.

Well the only way he doesn't resign is if someone throws a crazy offer at him. He is an RFA so we have the right to match any offer that comes his way. That being said if someone offers him upwards of 4 million, then we take the picks, he walks, and we use that money on someone else.

Problem with that strategy is that there won't be anybody left at that point. I really doubt anyone will offer Wiz a crazy contract. Honestly, since the Penner and Vanek summer the only offer sheets signed have been one-year deals that were easily matchable. I honestly don't think an offer sheet is a real threat for Wiz.

Well the only way he doesn't resign is if someone throws a crazy offer at him. He is an RFA so we have the right to match any offer that comes his way. That being said if someone offers him upwards of 4 million, then we take the picks, he walks, and we use that money on someone else.
What would suck is if Beauchemin goes somewhere else first (as well as most of the other UFAs), and then we lose Wiz to an OS like a few weeks in.

Why would u want marchant back? He is good at faceoffs which is good but he doesn't exactly have the offensive abilities the ducks need. The ducks are pretty much set for d-men if they are able to re-sign wisniewski or beauchemin, so now they need to focus on making the team better offensively. Anaheim could have gone farther in the playoffs if they had more than one line that was a threat offensively. So the ducks need to find someone with good vision who can feed selanne and lupul on the second line. Certainly that someone is not todd marchant.

I'm not talking about him being our second line center. I'm talking about keeping him here to keep doing exactly what he's been doing. The only knock on T-bone for the last three and a half years has been his salary. Well now we have an opportunity to retain him for an amount that makes more sense. He was easily our best defensive forward last year and one of our best leaders. With a smaller contract I can't understand why anyone wouldn't want him back.

What would suck is if Beauchemin goes somewhere else first (as well as most of the other UFAs), and then we lose Wiz to an OS like a few weeks in.

Well the last part would suck in losing Wiz, but I for one couldn't stand Beauchemin and am glad he won't be coming back. Wayyyyy overrated IMO.

I'm not too worried about things. I don't think we will lose Wiz.

Well the last part would suck in losing Wiz, but I for one couldn't stand Beauchemin and am glad he won't be coming back. Wayyyyy overrated IMO.

He's definitely overrated in terms of what he does on the ice, but he is capable of eating up a lot of minutes without embarrassing himself. To me he's like a baseball pitcher who's not a star, but is a solid starter who just gives you gobs of reliable innings year after year.

He's probably too expensive now for that role, but we do need to find someone who can replace that. We saw last year how bad things got when we suddenly removed his 25 minutes a game.

He's definitely overrated in terms of what he does on the ice, but he is capable of eating up a lot of minutes without embarrassing himself. To me he's like a baseball pitcher who's not a star, but is a solid starter who just gives you gobs of reliable innings year after year.

He's probably too expensive now for that role, but we do need to find someone who can replace that. We saw last year how bad things got when we suddenly removed his 25 minutes a game.

Totally agree. He ate a ton of minutes up, threw a big hit here and there and had a hard(but inaccurate) shot. At what he was making he was great. At what he will make he will leave teams wanting more out of him.

I'm not talking about him being our second line center. I'm talking about keeping him here to keep doing exactly what he's been doing. The only knock on T-bone for the last three and a half years has been his salary. Well now we have an opportunity to retain him for an amount that makes more sense. He was easily our best defensive forward last year and one of our best leaders. With a smaller contract I can't understand why anyone wouldn't want him back.

I understand where your coming from. Marchant is good defensively and I didn't give him enough credit. I agree his role on the team requires a lower salary, but if he has played such a huge role like everyone is saying, then how do you expect him to take a pay cut? He got paid 2.6 million last year. I think he should be paid between 1.8 to 2.2 million a year, but I doubt he will be willing to sign for less money. Why doesn't Anaheim let him go and give someone like Ryan Carter a chance. With Niedermayer(given he re-signs with the team) and Nokelainen on his wings that could be a very good checking line. Or even put Ebbett between those guys to add a little offense. I just think Anaheim has a lot of developing young guys that can do Marchant's job but at the same time do a little more offensively.

Two questions:

1) How many goals did Pavel Datsyuk manage to score against the Ducks during the playoffs?

2) What center did Carlyle line up against Pavel Datsyuk at even strength during the Detroit series?

If you can answer those two it might help answer why the Ducks want Marchant back, he is a warrior and worked his ass off down the stretch. Marchant was one of the main reasons the Ducks even made the playoffs in the first place.

1) Datsyuk had one goal all of the playoffs, so it wasn't todd marchant stopping him. It was Datsyuk being unable to find his scoring touch.

2) It was Todd marchant. But watching that series Datsyuk skated circles around marchant. He was pushed off the puck easily. His positioning was good but Datsyuk has sick hands and it was too much for Marchant to handle.

I saw the ducks play against the oilers this past season, and marchant wasn't getting played much because he wasn't effective at all. He was pushed off the puck easily by some of the oilers bigger players.

I understand where your coming from. Marchant is good defensively and I didn't give him enough credit. I agree his role on the team requires a lower salary, but if he has played such a huge role like everyone is saying, then how do you expect him to take a pay cut? He got paid 2.6 million last year. I think he should be paid between 1.8 to 2.2 million a year, but I doubt he will be willing to sign for less money. Why doesn't Anaheim let him go and give someone like Ryan Carter a chance. With Niedermayer(given he re-signs with the team) and Nokelainen on his wings that could be a very good checking line. Or even put Ebbett between those guys to add a little offense. I just think Anaheim has a lot of developing young guys that can do Marchant's job but at the same time do a little more offensively.

Quotes from Marchant after the season:

- I just spoke to Bob Murray, he expressed interest in bringing me back, and I told him that yes I'd like to come back. My family loves it here in southern California and I do as well.

- I understand where I am in my career. I know what I bring to the table and what I bring to this team. I'm not in the same position I was 6 years ago, when I was unrestricted. I understand that, they understand that.

- I know what I made last year, and like I said, I'm realistic in the situation I'm in. A lot of times it's hard to put a value on what a person brings to the team, when they don't have 40 goals and 40 assists and 80 points. Let's face it, I don't put up big numbers offenisvely.

Obviously, Marchant is aware of the situation and that he wont be in for a raise of salary to stay.

Aside from what's already been said about Marchant's shutdown play, he's also one of the best locker room guys we have. He always plays with 110% effort, never taking a shift off and that attitude is still there in the locker room as well.


Not to mention, his son is the best Ducks correspondent there is :handclap:

o god resign that man now

I saw the ducks play against the oilers this past season, and marchant wasn't getting played much because he wasn't effective at all. He was pushed off the puck easily by some of the oilers bigger players.

No one in the Ducks bottom six can carry the puck. He has no worse puck control than Rob, Miller, Carter, Nokelainen, Parros or Brown. The guy could be brought back for like $1.2 mil, I'd be happy to have him back. He was a stud in the play offs defensively, and add to that, that he played with a broken foot!

I'd keep Marchant for anything under 1.5.

No one in the Ducks bottom six can carry the puck. He has no worse puck control than Rob, Miller, Carter, Nokelainen, Parros or Brown. The guy could be brought back for like $1.2 mil, I'd be happy to have him back. He was a stud in the play offs defensively, and add to that, that he played with a broken foot!

I think 1.2 Million is fair and also that he would happily accept it to stay in Anaheim. The main issue seems to be that he wants to play for a few more years, and Murray is only offering a 1 year contract right now.

I'd be happy with 2 years and a 1.2 million cap hit.

I understand where your coming from. Marchant is good defensively and I didn't give him enough credit. I agree his role on the team requires a lower salary, but if he has played such a huge role like everyone is saying, then how do you expect him to take a pay cut? He got paid 2.6 million last year. I think he should be paid between 1.8 to 2.2 million a year, but I doubt he will be willing to sign for less money. Why doesn't Anaheim let him go and give someone like Ryan Carter a chance. With Niedermayer(given he re-signs with the team) and Nokelainen on his wings that could be a very good checking line. Or even put Ebbett between those guys to add a little offense. I just think Anaheim has a lot of developing young guys that can do Marchant's job but at the same time do a little more offensively.

As Elvstand pointed out in his post, Marchant is fully aware that his value is less than what he's been paid the previous 6 years. No one is going to pay Marchant that much money so I don't see him leaving for less than what we can offer unless Buffalo offers it.

As far as how much he deserves I say give him the exact same contract Sammy Pahlsson had the previous two seasons: 2 years at 1.6 per. Once Sammy was traded Todd took over his responsibilities and played up to the same level in my opinion minus the two months a couple Junes ago when Pahlsson played the best hockey of his life.

I imagine the only way we don't match a Wiz offer sheet is if its a massive overpayment (say about 3.5 million).

If that is the case, it would probably be from a bad team and we might expect good picks out of that.

Even if all the good UFAs are gone, I think we just save the cap space and go shopping after bargains. One thing is certain in the NHL, teams are running into cap problems constantly.

I think Marchant is ok with taking a pay cut but once a 2 year deal, Murray probably doesn't want to do more than 1 year given that the cap may drop next year.

Marchant was the best defensive forward during the playoffs. He isn't worth what he got, but he and everyone else knows it. If he stayed to center our 3rd line and kill the top PK, I would pay him close to Draper money, $1.5M cap hit for 2 years.

He told me he is very close on a deal to resign with the Ducks:). Pronger would be traded. And the only other thing I can say is Ebbet most likely won't be our 2nd line center.


Who is very close to re-signing with the Ducks? It is not clear who you mean, Beauch or Wiz?

GEEE WIZ! Wonder who it is? :sarcasm:

I hope that the Koivu rumors are true :D

I wonder if it's Gee Wiz.

Who is very close to re-signing with the Ducks? It is not clear who you mean, Beauch or Wiz?

It's not like he's gonna answer that question, "anonymous player"... Could be anyone of Beauch, Rob, Wis, Marchant... It could even have been Troy Bodie who just recently re-signed.

I think 1.2 Million is fair and also that he would happily accept it to stay in Anaheim. The main issue seems to be that he wants to play for a few more years, and Murray is only offering a 1 year contract right now.

I'd be happy with 2 years and a 1.2 million cap hit.

I'd be happy too, but there's no way that it will be that low. That's less then 50% of what he made last year. I realize he was overpaid, but I find it hard to believe that Marchant would sign for anything less then 1.5. I think Joe is right when he estimated 1.6 for 2 years. Carlyle could use the "we want to pay you what we were paying Sammy."

Personally I wouldn't be to upset if we didn't resign him, because I think Carter is ready to take the spot. However, if we get him at 1.5, then I'm happy. He's still a great shut down center, pk guy, and great in the locker room. Anything over 1.6 though, I say no because the money could be spent elsewhere, and Carter could replace him.

I'd be happy too, but there's no way that it will be that low. That's less then 50% of what he made last year. I realize he was overpaid, but I find it hard to believe that Marchant would sign for anything less then 1.5. I think Joe is right when he estimated 1.6 for 2 years. Carlyle could use the "we want to pay you what we were paying Sammy."

Personally I wouldn't be to upset if we didn't resign him, because I think Carter is ready to take the spot. However, if we get him at 1.5, then I'm happy. He's still a great shut down center, pk guy, and great in the locker room. Anything over 1.6 though, I say no because the money could be spent elsewhere, and Carter could replace him.

Agreed... Also we have Nokelainen and possibly Wirtanen who could do a good job. However, having a more experienced defensive center could become important come playoff time.

1) Datsyuk had one goal all of the playoffs, so it wasn't todd marchant stopping him. It was Datsyuk being unable to find his scoring touch.

2) It was Todd marchant. But watching that series Datsyuk skated circles around marchant. He was pushed off the puck easily. His positioning was good but Datsyuk has sick hands and it was too much for Marchant to handle.

I saw the ducks play against the oilers this past season, and marchant wasn't getting played much because he wasn't effective at all. He was pushed off the puck easily by some of the oilers bigger players.

True, Datsyuk only had 1 goal but that was largely due to him being visibly hurt in both the Chicago and Pittsburgh series, as far as I am aware he was relatively healthy during our series.

Datsyuk had one good game against us and had one shift where he skated circles around the whole team but I'm not sure if Marchant was on the ice at that point and if he was it was after the ducks had already killed off a 2 minute penalty so fatigue was a factor.

Anyways I hope we get him resigned, I read somewhere that if he wasn't signed by July 1 he would definately listen to what's else is out there so hopefully they can get him signed quick.

True, Datsyuk only had 1 goal but that was largely due to him being visibly hurt in both the Chicago and Pittsburgh series, as far as I am aware he was relatively healthy during our series.

Datsyuk had one good game against us and had one shift where he skated circles around the whole team but I'm not sure if Marchant was on the ice at that point and if he was it was after the ducks had already killed off a 2 minute penalty so fatigue was a factor.

Anyways I hope we get him resigned, I read somewhere that if he wasn't signed by July 1 he would definately listen to what's else is out there so hopefully they can get him signed quick.

Datsyuk mailed in the playoffs and was terrible THEN he got hurt. Thanks to the Ducks for beating the crap out of Detroit and allowing Pittsburgh to beat them. How fun was that to watch Detroit choker and lose 4 out of 5!!

He's definitely overrated in terms of what he does on the ice, but he is capable of eating up a lot of minutes without embarrassing himself. To me he's like a baseball pitcher who's not a star, but is a solid starter who just gives you gobs of reliable innings year after year.

He's probably too expensive now for that role, but we do need to find someone who can replace that. We saw last year how bad things got when we suddenly removed his 25 minutes a game.

I think Beauchemin is a stud and you guys will regret losing him. Komisarek got 4.5 million over 5 years in Toronto and Beauchemin is a better player.

I like the moves Murray has made but I kept wondering that Anaheim would have beaten Detroit in the playoffs if they hadnt dumped Moen, Pahlsson, etc. at the deadline. Did you guys get that feeling too?

I think Beauchemin is a stud and you guys will regret losing him. Komisarek got 4.5 million over 5 years in Toronto and Beauchemin is a better player.



Beauchemin probably is better but the Ducks can't afford to give him 4.5 million.

Beauchemin probably is better but the Ducks can't afford to give him 4.5 million.

Yeah I know. I find it fascinating watching fans try to delude themselves into thinking a player will take a million less a day after the league paid out 500 million in one day! The cap sucks!! :cry:

Yeah I know. I find it fascinating watching fans try to delude themselves into thinking a player will take a million less a day after the league paid out 500 million in one day! The cap sucks!! :cry:

Well if the only teams offering you big money is in Edmonton, Buffalo or Islanders, taking a pay cut to come to OC/LA doesn't look so bad.

Leopold told 1 year @ 1.75, aucion 1 year @ 2.25. I'm sure there are some deals out there.

Well if the only teams offering you big money is in Edmonton, Buffalo or Islanders, taking a pay cut to come to OC/LA doesn't look so bad.

Leopold told 1 year @ 1.75, aucion 1 year @ 2.25. I'm sure there are some deals out there.

You get what you pay for and who can afford to take a pay cut with cost of living in CA!!!:shakehead

Cost of living? But apparently we can pay in IOUs now. Nothing's cheaper than free!

I hope that the Ducks can keep Wisniewski he was pretty solid for us and a real warrior in the playoffs.

Murray said he'd do his best..
I will be soo pissed if some loser gm offers him 4 mil for 4 or somethin

Murray said he'd do his best..
I will be soo pissed if some loser gm offers him 4 mil for 4 or somethin

::cough:: Lowe.

Could the negotiations with Wiz be keeping us from going after someone else or making anymore moves for the moment?

Could the negotiations with Wiz be keeping us from going after someone else or making anymore moves for the moment?

I don't think so. Primary reason is that we have room under the budget.

I know Murray wants to wait but...
GOD JUST DO SOMETHING OF SIGNIFICANCE PLEASE! why do we need a steve mccarthy

I know Murray wants to wait but...
GOD JUST DO SOMETHING OF SIGNIFICANCE PLEASE! why do we need a steve mccarthy

Who says he's not doing anything? Contract negotiations aren't a walk in the park otherwise they all would have been done on Wednesday. Murray obviously wants to pay Wiz one amount and Wiz's agent is saying a different amount. He also doesn't have the money or is irrational enough to throw out the crazy money these other teams have the last couple of days.

they should both sign for the cheap for 1 year

and then have the duo resign next year for fat raises after niedermeyer and selanne retire...makes sense

have the duo resign for league avg for 1 yr...say 3m for the duo and then get a large raise next summer after a long playoff run...pronger or no pronger...this is a much deeper and improved team that still has an improving hiller and a potential gigure midseason trade to add 1 more top quality piece midseason...

To sign Wisniewski will not be a problem. I am sure Anaheim must pay him 2,5 - 3 mio Dollar. If a team make an offer-sheet, Anaheim easy can match it. And if an other team make an unreal offer, we would get some good draft picks.

Any news on Beauchemin guys? In the east, they are saying he may go to Toronna to join Burkie for 4M per season? What are you guys hearing? I was hoping the Habs would pick him up...

Any news on Beauchemin guys? In the east, they are saying he may go to Toronna to join Burkie for 4M per season? What are you guys hearing? I was hoping the Habs would pick him up...

Nothing new reported recently. All i've heard is that he's still looking for a 4-5 million average salary. So I think a lot of us are just assuming he's gone, but it's interesting that Murray hasn't replaced him yet.

Toronto is where I guessed he would be at the end of last season, but I assumed that was out the window when they signed the guy from Montreal. I don't think Montreal is an option anymore because of all the signings that they did on July 1st. Would Toronto really still be interested in signing him?

Well it looks like it's going to arbitration for Wiz according to TSN, so we have to play more of the waiting game. Hope we are able to sign at least one of these guys or else our D is kind of screwed.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283832

Well it looks like it's going to arbitration for Wiz according to TSN, so we have to play more of the waiting game. Hope we are able to sign at least one of these guys or else our D is kind of screwed.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283832

That's bad news IMO. Arbitration rarely leaves the team and player on good terms. Plus it always seems like arbitration is in favor of the players to me. I expect him to still get around what most of us are saying (2.5-3), but it still sucks. Hopefully they can get something done before the hearing.

Nothing new reported recently. All i've heard is that he's still looking for a 4-5 million average salary. So I think a lot of us are just assuming he's gone, but it's interesting that Murray hasn't replaced him yet.

Toronto is where I guessed he would be at the end of last season, but I assumed that was out the window when they signed the guy from Montreal. I don't think Montreal is an option anymore because of all the signings that they did on July 1st. Would Toronto really still be interested in signing him?I had read on another site, that Beauchemin is looking at TO or Montreal and tomorrow is D-day...could just be an Eklund type of thing, not sure...I know Gainey said he would like to pick up another D, but I do not think he has the cap room once his RFA's are signed...TO on the other hand has the room...who knows...

If Aucoin can get $2.25mm on a 1 year deal, Wiz should be getting $2.75mm.

Well it looks like it's going to arbitration for Wiz according to TSN, so we have to play more of the waiting game. Hope we are able to sign at least one of these guys or else our D is kind of screwed.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283832

This is actually good news. At the very least this ensures that Wiz isn't tendered an offer sheet and he has essentially agreed to sign with us. The question now is can Murray sign him to a deal before the hearing or how much will he get from arbitration? As long as it's less than 4 mil we should be alright.

Frankie isn't going to be a Duck next year, I'm fairly confident of that. He'll get his payday and power to him. Not that I won't miss him but everything I've read suggested both sides have come to terms with this fact.

If Aucoin can get $2.25mm on a 1 year deal, Wiz should be getting $2.75mm.

Aucoin was unrestricted, Wiz can only use other players who signed while they were restricted free agents as comparables.

The fact that he's been injury prone and has never scored more than 26 points in a season before should help the Ducks, I highly doubt he gets more than $3M and even that's pushing it.

Wiz doesn't have the stats to get big money. I will be surprised if he got anything more than 2 million bucks. If there is a comparable, it would be Beauchemin in his last contract making 1.7 mil.

Wiz doesn't have the stats to get big money. I will be surprised if he got anything more than 2 million bucks. If there is a comparable, it would be Beauchemin in his last contract making 1.7 mil.

Yep, arbitration isn't kind to defensive defensemen. He doesn't have the stats nor the open market comparables to get a good deal for himself. People talk about how arbitration leaves the team and the player on bad terms, but I don't think we've had any problems in the past with this, and our organization is as good as it gets in terms of treating players, so I'm not worried. Not to mention that Wiz is spared from any chance of an offer sheet.

Beauchemin is a pretty good comparison, so there's definitely a chance an arbitrator will award Wiz less than $2 million. Sounds good to me.

I'm not getting my hopes up with Beauchemin.

I'm not getting my hopes up with Beauchemin.

I think Murph made that quite clear in his interviews.

If Beauchemin is smart he'd play one more year in Anaheim with Scottie and stck his stats then move to free agency and cash in bigtime.
He seems to only play well with Scottie.

If Beauchemin is smart he'd play one more year in Anaheim with Scottie and stck his stats then move to free agency and cash in bigtime.
He seems to only play well with Scottie.

I think so, too. Despite playing pretty decently in the playoffs, I imagine there are some uncertainties about him. Not only that, but there doesn't seem to be many teams in need of a defenseman. His best bet would probably to re-sign here for one year at a semi-decent price, pad his stats playing with Scotty and the RPG line, and hit the market next year. Worst case is that he's in the same situation as he is now, best case is that either his stock goes through the roof(maybe he gets an ASG invite) and he cashes in via free agency or Anaheim gives him a lot of money to stick around when Scott leaves.

If Beauchemin is smart he'd play one more year in Anaheim with Scottie and stck his stats then move to free agency and cash in bigtime.
He seems to only play well with Scottie.

And risk another major injury? Or an off-season? His stock is high and this could be his one shot at a big payday. If he's smart he'll take that payday. Most of us would like him to stick around but he has to do what's best for him and his family and let's be honest, it ain't with the Ducks. I'd be shocked if we re-signed him.

The player who will make bank from arbitration is Jiri Hudler. With the Wings hard pressed against the cap, I am curious to see what they do if Hudler gets Hemsky money at 4-4.5 million dollars.

edited: I thought Hudler scored more than 23 goals. With 23 goals and 57 pts, he should get around 3 million bucks...Grabovski deal. Still way more than the Wings can afford. It is about time the Wings go through what happened to us after winning the Stanley Cup.

And risk another major injury? Or an off-season? His stock is high and this could be his one shot at a big payday. If he's smart he'll take that payday. Most of us would like him to stick around but he has to do what's best for him and his family and let's be honest, it ain't with the Ducks. I'd be shocked if we re-signed him.

But is his stock all that high? Pre-injury he might not have been considered an elite guy by any stretch of the imagination, but certainly was a solid #2 or 3 who could eat up big minutes, and I think a comparison to a guy like Komisarek would've been justified. Now it's up in the air what he'll get. Everyone in need of defensemen has gobbled one up yet he's still standing. Maybe it's because he'd demanding too much, but I doubt he would've been balking at long-term offers in the $4 million range, and considering what guys like Ohlund, Spacek and Scuderi got, it's hard to believe he didn't get anything in that range. Unless, of course, a lot of GMs are cautious to give him big bucks and/or a long-term deal.

Risking a major injury is something he definitely wouldn't want to do, but if he's not getting anything more than a 2 or 3 year deal at a moderate price then signing a one year deal for a similar price might be a decent idea for him.

But is his stock all that high? Pre-injury he might not have been considered an elite guy by any stretch of the imagination, but certainly was a solid #2 or 3 who could eat up big minutes, and I think a comparison to a guy like Komisarek would've been justified. Now it's up in the air what he'll get. Everyone in need of defensemen has gobbled one up yet he's still standing. Maybe it's because he'd demanding too much, but I doubt he would've been balking at long-term offers in the $4 million range, and considering what guys like Ohlund, Spacek and Scuderi got, it's hard to believe he didn't get anything in that range. Unless, of course, a lot of GMs are cautious to give him big bucks and/or a long-term deal.

Risking a major injury is something he definitely wouldn't want to do, but if he's not getting anything more than a 2 or 3 year deal at a moderate price then signing a one year deal for a similar price might be a decent idea for him.

someone will definitely take the risk that he is a solid 2/3 that can eat up minutes and pay him 4+ million for 3 or more years...

That's bad news IMO. Arbitration rarely leaves the team and player on good terms. Plus it always seems like arbitration is in favor of the players to me. I expect him to still get around what most of us are saying (2.5-3), but it still sucks. Hopefully they can get something done before the hearing.

There's still time to come to a deal. Last year, fifteen players filed for arbitration and only two wound up going through the process.

The longer Beauchemin sits, the less likely he is to the get the $4-4.5 million that he wants. If a team was willing to shell out that much for him, they would have already.

But is his stock all that high? Pre-injury he might not have been considered an elite guy by any stretch of the imagination, but certainly was a solid #2 or 3 who could eat up big minutes, and I think a comparison to a guy like Komisarek would've been justified. Now it's up in the air what he'll get. Everyone in need of defensemen has gobbled one up yet he's still standing. Maybe it's because he'd demanding too much, but I doubt he would've been balking at long-term offers in the $4 million range, and considering what guys like Ohlund, Spacek and Scuderi got, it's hard to believe he didn't get anything in that range. Unless, of course, a lot of GMs are cautious to give him big bucks and/or a long-term deal.

Risking a major injury is something he definitely wouldn't want to do, but if he's not getting anything more than a 2 or 3 year deal at a moderate price then signing a one year deal for a similar price might be a decent idea for him.

If we missed the playoffs and he didn't get a chance to get back on the ice I'd say his stock would be low. But we came back and looked great and was a big part of our playoff run.

But there's no way he takes a one-year deal with anybody. This is a guy who had to fight his way out of the minors, bounced around three different NHL teams in less than a year and has had nothing but two-year contracts. Plus he has two small children and will want to put down roots somewhere. He has his ring already and will want to go to a team that wants him for a long time, expects him to be a key player and is willing to give him lots of money.

I am surprised Beachemin has not been signed. Too me he is a better defenseman than Komisarek. I am surprised Burke didnt sign him? Maybe he wanted to do a Montreal takeaway and/or Beauchemin is asking for something else??

signed with the Leafs 3 years/10 mill

We couldn't match 3.3? Oh for ****s sakes.

We couldn't match 3.3? Oh for ****s sakes.

I was expecting 4.5 mil/ year

Lame.

Hopefully he just preferred the East Coast. Although 3.33 is still a touch higher than I would have wanted.

Why didn't we match that?

Why didn't we match that?

I've said it a bunch of times on here. But what I was told from a few players on the team. Beauchemin didn't want to be here. He wanted to be closer to home(Montreal). He was signing with an East Coast team, unless the Ducks blew him away with an offer. Which they clearly didn't.

I for one am thrilled he is gone. Not worth 3+ million......

I'm glad we did not match it.

Actually $3.8M/yr per tsn. Closer to what I expected.

Good for Burke, Good for FB.

Boynton,Morris or Mara is pretty much all thats left on D thats worth anything to this team

I'm not too disappointed, I thought he'd get a bit more though. Kudos to whoever it was that said it'd be TO.

Well Beauchemin's trade value just skyrocketed. After all, every leafs player is worth Bobby Ryan and a 1st on HFboards :sarcasm:

Boynton,Morris or Mara is pretty much all thats left on D thats worth anything to this team

I think you could add Jay McKee to that list. There's one or two others off the top of my head that are up there, too, but I just can't quite think of them at the moment.

I've said it a bunch of times on here. But what I was told from a few players on the team. Beauchemin didn't want to be here. He wanted to be closer to home(Montreal). He was signing with an East Coast team, unless the Ducks blew him away with an offer. Which they clearly didn't.

I for one am thrilled he is gone. Not worth 3+ million......

Beauchemin stated the Ducks were his number one choice but an offer never came... I'm quite surprised actually...

Beauchemin stated the Ducks were his number one choice but an offer never came... I'm quite surprised actually...

Whats a guy gonna say when asked? I don't really want to be there anymore? No, he says of course I would love to come back then signs with another team.

Just politics. Beauch never had any intention of staying in Anaheim, and he made that plenty aware to teammates and management.

Whats a guy gonna say when asked? I don't really want to be there anymore? No, he says of course I would love to come back then signs with another team.

Just politics. Beauch never had any intention of staying in Anaheim, and he made that plenty aware to teammates and management.

That definitely could be... It is however a poor choice to say it after the fact... Saying you wanted to stay but the team didn't want you is shoddy principles if that was indeed his direction...

The odd thing about this signing is that I've been letting it be known all over these boards that I wanted the Ducks to resign Beauchemin for 3.8 cap hit. I predicited that he would go to Toronto next year just after we were eliminated, because I think it was fairly obvious that Burke would want him again.

I for one will be pissed if we didn't try to match that offer. Someone said that he wanted to move back east earlier this offseason, and I'm hoping that's the reason he signed in Toronto because we need a stay at home defensemen. Seidenberg is the only person left who really fits that description. Who is going to move the guys out from in front of the next? We lost Pronger and now Beauchemin. Every team in our division just became even happier then they were when Pronger left.

The odd thing about this signing is that I've been letting it be known all over these boards that I wanted the Ducks to resign Beauchemin for 3.8 cap hit. I predicited that he would go to Toronto next year just after we were eliminated, because I think it was fairly obvious that Burke would want him again.

I for one will be pissed if we didn't try to match that offer. Someone said that he wanted to move back east earlier this offseason, and I'm hoping that's the reason he signed in Toronto because we need a stay at home defensemen. Seidenberg is the only person left who really fits that description. Who is going to move the guys out from in front of the next? We lost Pronger and now Beauchemin. Every team in our division just became even happier then they were when Pronger left.

Well if you are worried about our toughness in front of the net there are plenty of guys who can do that job still available via free agency. Mckee and Boynton come to mind off the top of my head...

Well if you are worried about our toughness in front of the net there are plenty of guys who can do that job still available via free agency. Mckee and Boynton come to mind off the top of my head...

Boynton seems like a guy that Murray might target. He can eat up minutes and play top 4 role, and is solid defensively.

I for one will be pissed if we didn't try to match that offer. Someone said that he wanted to move back east earlier this offseason, and I'm hoping that's the reason he signed in Toronto because we need a stay at home defensemen. Seidenberg is the only person left who really fits that description. Who is going to move the guys out from in front of the next? We lost Pronger and now Beauchemin. Every team in our division just became even happier then they were when Pronger left.

Pissed? I would have been pissed if Murray had matched that offer. I love Frankie but signing him to such a deal greatly inhibits re-signing Wisniewski, makes signing Marchant impossible and adding a second line center an after thought. And that's just in regards to this season. Bobby Ryan has to be signed to an extension and it's gonna be big. We just can't keep all these guys. Whitney and Wiz to go along with Sbisa, Mitera and Gardiner are our future on the blueline. Plus Wiz is going to be just about a straight-up replacement for Frankie anyway. The only thing he can't do is play as many minutes at Beauch and that's only because we haven't seen him do it yet.

It's a sad day that he's officially gone but we had no room for him. We barely have room for the people we already have.

Boynton seems like a guy that Murray might target. He can eat up minutes and play top 4 role, and is solid defensively.

Boynton is great defensively. I would be quite surprised if the Ducks could sign him. I'm expecting Boynton to get near $3mil per.

I wouldn't mind Boynton, as long as it's a one year deal so we can trade him at the deadline along with Teemu and Scotty. Should get some nice packages for the two latter. Teemu maybe to Pittsburgh and Scotty to Vancouver.

I wouldn't mind Boynton, as long as it's a one year deal so we can trade him at the deadline along with Teemu and Scotty. Should get some nice packages for the two latter. Teemu maybe to Pittsburgh and Scotty to Vancouver.

That would be very very disprespectful to Teemu. The guy has already won a cup now, I'm pretty sure he'd prefer to stick around in Anaheim where he and his family has been living, and enjoying to do so for a long time, rather than going to a contender at the deadline. Whatever contender you are playing for, the chances of actually winning the cup are kind of small tbh. The guy wants to retire a Duck and sure deserves to do so.

I wouldn't mind Boynton, as long as it's a one year deal so we can trade him at the deadline along with Teemu and Scotty. Should get some nice packages for the two latter. Teemu maybe to Pittsburgh and Scotty to Vancouver.

If this team can sign Boynton, Comrie and Moen this team becomes a
contender and should be looking to add at the deadline

If this team can sign Boynton, Comrie and Moen this team becomes a
contender and should be looking to add at the deadline

Comrie... really? No, I'll take Ebbett.

Where are the Ducks doing? Awesome 1st line but the 9 others are piss poor besides 1-2 guys...their strengh was their D now that is not piss poor but poor now.

Comrie... really? No, I'll take Ebbett.

I agree. I'd take almost anyone as our 2nd line centre over Comrie.

That would be very very disprespectful to Teemu. The guy has already won a cup now, I'm pretty sure he'd prefer to stick around in Anaheim where he and his family has been living, and enjoying to do so for a long time, rather than going to a contender at the deadline. Whatever contender you are playing for, the chances of actually winning the cup are kind of small tbh. The guy wants to retire a Duck and sure deserves to do so.

I agree. Obviously by signing on to play for Anaheim his last year, he wants to end his career as a Duck. Also, if he didn't think Anaheim could compete, he probably wouldn't have decided to play one more year.

Comrie... really? No, I'll take Ebbett.

Yeah i mean why we would we need a former 2 time 30 goal scoring 2nd line center that is skilled, fast and super gritty when we can play a small toothpick like center who is useless in the playoffs and most likely should be a career AHL'er
Comrie is a buy low with super good upside and a perfect fit for this team whether you like it or not :shakehead

I agree. I'd take almost anyone as our 2nd line centre over Comrie.

you should be an NHL gm

you should be an NHL gm

If Comrie wasn't such a lazy player who's played himself off some of the worst NHL teams in recent history then I would gladly take him, there's no denying his talent but there's a reason he hasn't been signed yet....

If Comrie wasn't such a lazy player who's played himself off some of the worst NHL teams in recent history then I would gladly take him, there's no denying his talent but there's a reason he hasn't been signed yet....

Because the upside is there and unlike crap like EC hes actually proved it exists plus we have a chance to buy low on a superstar. He will sign somewhere and he remains a Koivu backup option for Murray that i can guarantee you

Because the upside is there and unlike crap like EC hes actually proved it exists plus we have a chance to buy low on a superstar. He will sign somewhere and he remains a Koivu backup option for Murray that i can guarantee you

eric?

the comrie love in here is ridiculous. he had 30 goals 4 and 8 years ago!

the comrie love in here is ridiculous. he had 30 goals 4 and 8 years ago!

what love its just me and list the linemates hes had to play with recently? hes 28 its not like hes old

Comrie has an attitude problem and is being overrated in this discussion.

I'd rather have even Carter or Marchant center a 2nd line before Comrie.

Yeah i mean why we would we need a former 2 time 30 goal scoring 2nd line center that is skilled, fast and super gritty when we can play a small toothpick like center who is useless in the playoffs and most likely should be a career AHL'er
Comrie is a buy low with super good upside and a perfect fit for this team whether you like it or not :shakehead

Yeah I mean why shouldn't we sign an overrated guy with attitude problems who scored 30 goals 4 years ago, when we have a guy who played his heart at despite being injured who makes 500k. You know we should go lock up Chistov, he was good a couple of years ago...

I'm not a huge fan of Ebbett, but if the choice is between. Sign Comrie or keep Ebbett as the 2nd line center and sign another defensemen. Well honestly that's not even close. Maybe if Ebbett and Comrie made the same salary it would be debatable, but since they don't it's not.

Agreed. Comrie is a floater and not worth it. He couldnt even succeed in Ottawa.

Ducks, Wiz close. (http://ducks.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/10/ducks-wisniewski-close/16135/)

Although it hasn’t been announced, the indications are that the Ducks are close to giving the talented defenseman a 1-year deal with a salary in the neighborhood of $2.5 million, which would hold off an arbitration hearing.

Wish it was a longer term, but the price is great for this season.

If I read the CBA right he should still be a restricted free agent at the end of this year as he will have only played 6 pro seasons and will still be under 27.

Assuming he signs for $2.5M and no other moves are made we are approximately $1.37M over the supposed $50M budget and have just under $4M in cap space.

Although it hasn’t been announced, the indications are that the Ducks are close to giving the talented defenseman a 1-year deal with a salary in the neighborhood of $2.5 million, which would hold off an arbitration hearing.

I hope that includes Rob otherwise the Penner contract seems reasonable.

I hope that includes Rob otherwise the Penner contract seems reasonable.
Have to wonder if you actually believe the things you type here.

Yeah what are you talking about??

Are you saying that giving Wiz 2.5 is worse than giving Penner 4.25?

Wiz at 2.5 is a bargain. I'm guessing after 1 year, he'll be making 3.5-4.

While I wish the term was longer (3 or 4 years), the money is sound.

Can't complain too much I guess. At least this avoids arbitration.

Wiz deal is done
from a VERY GOOD source.
It will be announced tomorrow!
1 yr 2.5 million give or take a little.
But it is a 1 year deal so at least we avoided arbitration!

I think it is a fair deal. Wiz has a year to prove how much he is worth. I am sure he was asking for 4 million bucks or at the very least, Cam Barker money which is about 3.3 million. The kid gets a chance to prove how much money he is worth playing top 4 minutes.

Wiz deal is done
from a VERY GOOD source.
It will be announced tomorrow!
1 yr 2.5 million give or take a little.
But it is a 1 year deal so at least we avoided arbitration!

CapGeek has reported Wiz signed for one year at $2.75 million. There is no other confirmation at this point.

TSN confirms the signing but they don't give a number.

Link (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=284633)

TSN confirms the signing but they don't give a number.

Link (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=284633)

2.75

OC Register

I was reading the blog on the Duck's official website, and he mentioned that Wiz actually wanted a longer deal at the current contract number, where as Murray wanted it one year.

I was reading the blog on the Duck's official website, and he mentioned that Wiz actually wanted a longer deal at the current contract number, where as Murray wanted it one year.
Where's it say that? All I see is that he wanted a longer term, but it didn't mention anything about price.

Wiz said Murray was afraid to give him more years because of his injury history, and wants him to prove he is worth the contract. I'm not going to link you because I don't care enough to visit another website.

Hmm, that is very interesting. So MURRAY wanted the one year deal.

I trust Murray, but I would have preferred more years.

Where's it say that? All I see is that he wanted a longer term, but it didn't mention anything about price.

Maybe I just read it wrong, but the way his comments were, it made me think he would have taken the same number for more years. It looks like Murray doesn't really think he's worth the 2.75 million. I would have like a three or four year deal at that contract though.

I think it would have taken a higher number over more years to sign him. I'm guessing Wisniewski only agreed to as low as 2.75 because the term was short.

I think it would have taken a higher number over more years to sign him. I'm guessing Wisniewski only agreed to as low as 2.75 because the term was short.

That's what I thought at first, but the comments by Wiz make me think it wasn't that way. Wiz made it sound like he would have been fine with that number for two or three years, but RC didn't even want to sign him long term at that contract. Who knows though...