Devils Re-sign Oduya 3 years/10.5M

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Ugh.

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And that's why I wanted TG to comment on the matter before I got excited.

it's entirely possible he's signed and Lou doesn't want to announce it now.

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lmao

Or the papers haven't been sent to the league yet. Or Lou's fax is broken.

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so there's another hole in our back end. no pun intended.

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Today just went from great to yeeeccchhh.

idk maybe it is really true and lou is just keeping it on the DL cuz why would that swedish paper of whatever just make that up?

I don't believe anything until Lou says it true himself. Another example of why.

Lou is ridiculously slow in confirming these things. It happens every summer, I remember it wasn't until like three weeks after White was signed that Lou confirmed it.

Lou is ridiculously slow in confirming these things. It happens every summer, I remember it wasn't until like three weeks after White was signed that Lou confirmed it.

he'll announce it at 11:55AM on Wednesday. if he hasn't, then it's time to panic. there's no reason for a Swedish paper to botch on a Swedish player.

Even though it's looks like is was a false report, I'm already more optimistic that he's going to re-sign here. If we can get him locked up before July 1st, that would be awesome!

If a deal was struck, in all likelihood, it wouldn't be announced until tomorrow anyway. Lou takes the (sort of) sabbath off.

So there's hope the Devils get him at the $2.5M I'm more comfortable with? :sarcasm:

So there's hope the Devils get him at the $2.5M I'm more comfortable with? :sarcasm:

It could have been a press leak per Oduya's people, but seemingly yes.

bump.

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ahhaha Well done.

Even though it's looks like is was a false report, I'm already more optimistic that he's going to re-sign here. If we can get him locked up before July 1st, that would be awesome!

I too think he will want to play here. We're the team that gave him a chance.

I hope we re-sign him or :help:


Johnny proved a lot last year and even if he can only play with Paul they are really good together and i would be fine having that as a pair. I think he is just going to get better as well so i hope it was a leak and we get something about it tomo or tues.

I too think he will want to play here. We're the team that gave him a chance.

The Devils were the team that gave Brian Rafalski a chance too, and look how that turned out...

The devils are also the team that low balled Rafalski on a raise that the guy deserved.

But Oduya will resign.

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I have foreseen it.

The Devils were the team that gave Brian Rafalski a chance too, and look how that turned out...

Well then lucky for us there isn't a swede division in the NHL

The Devils were the team that gave Brian Rafalski a chance too, and look how that turned out...

Seven seasons, two Stanley Cups. I'll take it!!!:sarcasm:

hes back, as per nj.com/devils. looks to be around 3 million a season

great news!

hes back, as per nj.com/devils. looks to be around 3 million a season

great news!

http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2009/06/defenseman_johnny_oduya_expect.html

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hes back, as per nj.com/devils. looks to be around 3 million a season

great news!

Hell yes! Now we need to lock up Zajac and Greene. Book 'em Lou!

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awesome

It's Chere so it's reliable, but I'm not happy until I have contract numbers.

I'm not really and Oduya fan (at least in his own end), but we can't afford to lose someone with his skill level. Who would've guessed Oduya would become so important when he first came over a few years ago?

It's Chere so it's reliable, but I'm not happy until I have contract numbers.

I won't be totally convinced until TG has it up too, but I'm guardedly ecstatic right now.

like I said, they'll announce this at 11:55AM on Wednesday and it will be exactly what was in the Swedish article. I have no doubt.

It's Chere so it's reliable, but I'm not happy until I have contract numbers.

I think we'll be looking at 4 years and a little over 12mill.

Great news, but I'll be satisfied when I see Travis's contract.

Nice work Lou.

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My favorite Kenyan-Swede!

Great signing, glad he didn't get "Fingered"

I can't imagine anything crashing this deal. If Chere's updating at 9:44 PM and Lou himself says he's close - which is a big turnaround from his "nothing has been done" on Sunday - then this is going to happen

And it's great. Not just for us, but for every other GM in the league. They can go tell a defenseman's agent, "Well, so and so isn't as good as Oduya and he's going to get $3 million/year. Why should I pay much more than that?" It's wonderful!

ASIDE: Can we change the title of the thread?

And it's great. Not just for us, but for every other GM in the league. They can go tell a defenseman's agent, "Well, so and so isn't as good as Oduya and he's going to get $3 million/year. Why should I pay much more than that?" It's wonderful!

The "well you're not as good as Parise" argument hasn't really worked though.


ASIDE: Can we change the title of the thread?
Yeah, I feel wrong being happy in a thread with that title.

I can't imagine anything crashing this deal. If Chere's updating at 9:44 PM and Lou himself says he's close - which is a big turnaround from his "nothing has been done" on Sunday - then this is going to happen

And it's great. Not just for us, but for every other GM in the league. They can go tell a defenseman's agent, "Well, so and so isn't as good as Oduya and he's going to get $3 million/year. Why should I pay much more than that?" It's wonderful!

ASIDE: Can we change the title of the thread?

Yeah, but then you have the Dave Bolland contract that was handed out today which basically means that Travis can justifiably ask for $3.75M because he's better and more accomplished than Bolland is.

Yeah, but then you have the Dave Bolland contract that was handed out today which basically means that Travis can justifiably ask for $3.75M because he's better and more accomplished than Bolland is.

Which at that point Lou should bring in Parise's contract to cancel that out.

he's gonna make more than Parise, it's just a matter of how much, and what the structure of Bolland's contract is. if the UFA year is well over the RFA years, then Lou has a case. if it's a balanced deal, there's gonna be an issue.

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My guess TravTrav will get around 3 as a cap hit with a back loaded contract probably for 3 to 5 years.

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Hahaha love it.

My guess TravTrav will get around 3 as a cap hit with a back loaded contract probably for 3 to 5 years.

Sounds great to me. I didn't hear anything about Lou qualifying our RFAs, but I'm assuming he did because he said he would. I just want to avoid arbitration, that can get ugly.

Well then lucky for us there isn't a swede division in the NHL

With all the Swedes we are drafting and then Bergfors and Oduya we are becoming an all swede team :laugh:

seems like from some of TG's comments, he's signed.

I can't imagine anything crashing this deal. If Chere's updating at 9:44 PM and Lou himself says he's close - which is a big turnaround from his "nothing has been done" on Sunday - then this is going to happen

And it's great. Not just for us, but for every other GM in the league. They can go tell a defenseman's agent, "Well, so and so isn't as good as Oduya and he's going to get $3 million/year. Why should I pay much more than that?" It's wonderful!

ASIDE: Can we change the title of the thread?

The price, if true, and it does sound about as close to being official without actually being annoucned, is a great deal for the Devils, and as you pointed out, the rest of the league as well. This was priority #1 IMO this offseason, keeping Oduya, and it looks like it's gonna happen!:yo:

Yes Oduya!

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Is it safe to celebrate this time?

Good stuff, hopefully we get confirmation from Lou soon (and an announcement that he re-signed Zajac would be nice too).

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Getting finalized this afternoon!!

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good ****

As expected when the swedish article was posted.

Still nice.

Party!
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3 years at $3.5 million per season.

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3 years at $3.5 million per season.

Twitter is an actual source for this kind of info now?

more than i would have wanted but i guess i cant complain about 0.5 mill

Geesh thats a full 1 mil over what I wanted us to pay him :( I guess it is inflation. But that means we're gonna have problems signing the FAs.

Half a mil more than I guessed, but he deserves more than White/Sal and less than Martin so it makes sense.

I think 3.5 is a bit high. It's probably between 3 and 3.5.

I think $3.5M is exactly what it is going to be. It's precisely his market value.

I think $3.5M is exactly what it is going to be. It's precisely his market value.

I think your think is not in line with my think.

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TG says it's in between 3 and 3.5 M, I'm hoping it's toward the lower end of that. I don't begrudge Oduya the money, he's earned it, but any way we can save money is a good thing.

Its on the Devils website but no terms disclosed..


http://devils.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=432232

bye gio
bye madden

bye gio
bye madden

Sounds like :(

I wonder if we're gonna see guys like Palmeri and Bergfors now that we will have two empty spots?

Welcome back, Johnny. Keep improving. :handclap:

this was the most important player (or only) we needed to resign before July 1st. Mission accomplished!

Sounds like :(

I wonder if we're gonna see guys like Palmeri and Bergfors now that we will have two empty spots?

Palmeri still needs a few years in the AHL, Bergfors I think is ready tho.

Twitter is an actual source for this kind of info now?

Yeah, I find this trend disturbing as well.

Sounds like :(

I wonder if we're gonna see guys like Palmeri and Bergfors now that we will have two empty spots?

hope so. time to move on.

If the deal is 3.5 or more Lou has lost his mind.

If the deal is 3.5 or more Lou has lost his mind.
$3.5M is exactly what he's worth on the open market. I agree it's an overpayment, but not drastically so.

If the deal is 3.5 or more Lou has lost his mind.

I have already compared Oduya to guys who make around that figure and he belongs in the list with that price range.

I predicted $3.25M. Could still get that. $3.5 isn't bad considering Oduya has Lou by the balls.

i love how guys come in here and say that lou has lost his mind without providing any facts or insight as to why

do you understand the term "market value?"

Parise (3.125) - Zajac (?) - Langenbrunner (2.8)
Elias (6) - ??? - Rolston (5.1)
Pandolfo (2.5) - Zubrus (3.4) - Clarkson (.84)
PL3 (.55) - ??? - ???
???

Martin (3.8) - Oduya (3.5)
White (3) - Salvador (2.9)
Mottau (.76) - Greene (?)
Leach (.5)

Brodeur (5.2)
???

=43.475

13.325 Million left to sign Zajac, add a 2nd line centre, and five depth players. Assuming the five depth players get a total of about 4, and Zajac gets about 3, with a million for wiggle room, that's about 5M to get a second line centre (or keep Gionta). But, Martin needs a raise next year and the cap is likely to drop. Assuming the cap doesn't drop by more than 2M, jettisoning Pandolfo should cover that. Were I Lou I would err on the side of caution and only spend around 3.5M to go out and sign a centreman.

i love how guys come in here and say that lou has lost his mind without providing any facts or insight as to why

do you understand the term "market value?"

What are you talking about?

People in here have worked for the NHL and negotiated contracts.. They know what goes on and how it works ;)

Parise (3.125) - Zajac (?) - Langenbrunner (2.8)
Elias (6) - ??? - Rolston (5.1)
Pandolfo (2.5) - Zubrus (3.4) - Clarkson (.84)
PL3 (.55) - ??? - ???
???

Martin (3.8) - Oduya (3.5)
White (3) - Salvador (2.9)
Mottau (.76) - Greene (?)
Leach (.5)

Brodeur (5.2)
???

=43.475

13.325 Million left to sign Zajac, add a 2nd line centre, and five depth players. Assuming the five depth players get a total of about 4, and Zajac gets about 3, with a million for wiggle room, that's about 5M to get a second line centre (or keep Gionta). But, Martin needs a raise next year and the cap is likely to drop. Assuming the cap doesn't drop by more than 2M, jettisoning Pandolfo should cover that. Were I Lou I would err on the side of caution and only spend around 3.5M to go out and sign a centreman.

pando REALLY needs to go

What are you talking about?

People in here have worked for the NHL and negotiated contracts.. They know what goes on and how it works ;)

well, i know you jest. But I personally orchestrated the merger between UNICEF and Smith & Wesson.

The Devils just made it offical. No word on the exact terms just yet.

The price, if true, and it does sound about as close to being official without actually being annoucned, is a great deal for the Devils, and as you pointed out, the rest of the league as well. This was priority #1 IMO this offseason, keeping Oduya, and it looks like it's gonna happen!:yo:

Yes this wouldbe better for the league, but guys like tallon throwing 3.375 to a David Bolland could hurt when Lou goes to sign Zajac.

do you think oduya will ever hit 40 points in his career?

13.325 Million left to sign Zajac, add a 2nd line centre, and five depth players. Assuming the five depth players get a total of about 4, and Zajac gets about 3, with a million for wiggle room, that's about 5M to get a second line centre (or keep Gionta). But, Martin needs a raise next year and the cap is likely to drop. Assuming the cap doesn't drop by more than 2M, jettisoning Pandolfo should cover that. Were I Lou I would err on the side of caution and only spend around 3.5M to go out and sign a centreman.

Cool then we can all hop on the boards an listen to more stuff about how Lou didnt sign a Puck mover. Everyone will be screaming about it and it will be like last year. Cant wait.

The New Jersey Devils facebook group comments on Oduya re-signing are full of fail.

Fail.

do you think oduya will ever hit 40 points in his career?

I'd venture to say he probably won't, but if he gets increased PP time next year I think he could get around 35.

The New Jersey Devils facebook group comments on Oduya re-signing are full of fail.

Fail.

dude sign the Sedin twinzzz!!!!!!111

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do you think oduya will ever hit 40 points in his career?

If he gets PP time, maybe

dude sign the Sedin twinzzz!!!!!!111

Uffdgdfgh

"who cares....he couldnt clear the damn puck game 7....ship him madden and white...bring hossa and the sedin brothers to nj....enough one and dones.."

Truly horrific.

oduya will most likely get more pp time depending on the next coach.

who cares....he couldnt clear the damn puck game 7....ship him madden and white...bring hossa and the sedin brothers to nj....enough one and dones..

ITS SO SIMPLE! :laugh:

I honestly didn't realise how little the average non-HF Devils fan (read facebook tool piece) knows about actual Devils players.

I'd venture to say he probably won't, but if he gets increased PP time next year I think he could get around 35.

If he gets PP time, maybe

oduya will most likely get more pp time depending on the next coach.

what is this....power...play you speak of???

I honestly didn't realise how little the average non-HF Devils fan (read facebook tool piece) knows about actual Devils players.
Welcome to the NHL in the United States. Outside of the die-hards, people are pretty ignorant.

I honestly didn't realise how little the average non-HF Devils fan (read facebook tool piece) knows about actual Devils players.

You've never been to a Devils game then my friend. ;)

I stay away from hockey arguments about stuff like that. Waste of time.

You've never been to a Devils game then my friend. ;)

I stay away from hockey arguments about stuff like that. Waste of time.

Yecccccch.

Can't be arsed to argue with them. Some of the notions though, jesus christ. We wouldn't have anyone left on the roster with the way some of these people are going....

Assuming the cap doesn't drop by more than 2M, jettisoning Pandolfo should cover that. Were I Lou I would err on the side of caution and only spend around 3.5M to go out and sign a centreman.

The Kings brass is preparing for the cap to be anywhere from 48-50 million for 2010-11. Dean Lombardi was trying to tell season ticket holders to remember that on July 2nd, ie if/when the Kings don't go overboard on UFAs on July 1st despite having ample cap space right now.

As much as I'd like to go out and get a #2 center, I think we're stuck with Rolston or Zubrus for the time being.

The Kings brass is preparing for the cap to be anywhere from 48-50 million for 2010-11. Dean Lombardi was trying to tell season ticket holders to remember that on July 2nd, ie if/when the Kings don't go overboard on UFAs on July 1st despite having ample cap space right now.

As much as I'd like to go out and get a #2 center, I think we're stuck with Rolston or Zubrus for the time being.

I think that is Lous plan anyway except for Koivu i dont want any time line centers and Koivu will cost to much. Between Zubrus, Rolston, and Elias i think we will stay with out of the top line center deals.

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Happy to keep Johnny.

Anze Kopitar, retard.

Good, [Oduya's] probably the best Defender we have. Keep him, get rid of the others. If the Rangers trade Wade Redden for Danny Heatly try to pick up Redden.

we'd be even better if we could get rid of rupp and pandolfo, but that's not gonna happen anytime soon.

think the devils should get rid of weekes, because he is no help at all and clemmensen is way better than him...they should also get rid of holik becuase all he does is start fights...we got elias, brodeur, parise and many great players on the team, so hopefully we'll do well in the 2009-2010 season

I. ****ing. Love. The. Internet.

I honestly didn't realise how little the average non-HF Devils fan (read facebook tool piece) knows about actual Devils players.

I was talking to friends on Friday that want to run Martin out of town. Never mind that neither he or Oduya were on the ice for either of the goals.

Anybody that wants the Sedins fails an IQ test. As if we have the cap space (but of course, we can just give White and Salvador to someone and play 5 defensemen), and as if they were going to sign there, and as if the Sedins have won anything.

The Kings brass is preparing for the cap to be anywhere from 48-50 million for 2010-11. Dean Lombardi was trying to tell season ticket holders to remember that on July 2nd, ie if/when the Kings don't go overboard on UFAs on July 1st despite having ample cap space right now.

As much as I'd like to go out and get a #2 center, I think we're stuck with Rolston or Zubrus for the time being.

Yep, remember when everyone got on the Sharks coming out of the lockout for doing nothing and not even having a full roster during the UFA period? Well, look at what they did. Fine, it didn't work out the way they wanted it to, but I think alot of teams are going to steal that concept. I wouldn't go out of my way for anything other than one year deals right now, be it an extra center or a D upgrade or whatever.

If you go overboard, you'll pay for it in the end. Say you sign Gionta at market value, what happens next year? What assets can you sell to get out of that mess? If you think Gionta for Elias is a good trade....

We accomplished goal #1 before UFA opened. That's pretty good. Whatever else happens is gravy, as long as it's not stupid. If it doesn't work 100%, chase expiring contracts to make the team better.

Unfortunately, though, Lemaire is gonna be the coach. Just like this signing, it's a badly kept secret.

I honestly didn't realise how little the average non-HF Devils fan (read facebook tool piece) knows about actual Devils players.

I often, when I meet someone or even somebody I know, have to hold myself back. Maybe just because I'm a nerd, but I hear some people say some pretty dumb things to me.

When we get into opinions on players, I generally just let it slide (even if they're way off). But there are times when a guy will be like: "he scored 30 goals with Montreal" and i just go "no, you're wrong."

They respond "I'm pretty sure--"

"No, you're wrong"

...something to that effect.

I. ****ing. Love. The. Internet.

i think that the nj devils team is good because we have great players like parise, elias, and brodeur

lol. Really?

lol. Really?

I always thought it was Zubrus and Pandolfo that were carrying us. HOW STUPID OF ME!

Sportbladet.se writes the truth.

lol. Really?

That's from a ~14 year old girl. Relatively good insight.

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3 years @ 10.5M

3, 3.5, and 4M each year, amounting to a 3.5 cap hit

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3 years @ 10.5M

3, 3.5, and 4M each year, amounting to a 3.5 cap hit

About 500K more than I would have liked. Meehan must've said look. We want what Finger got. The stupid ****ing Maple Leafs.

About 500K more than I would have liked. Meehan must've said look. We want what Finger got. The stupid ****ing Maple Leafs.

Still don't see why people keep on insisting comparing this to the Finger contract.

Still don't see why people keep on insisting comparing this to the Finger contract.

Because it's the exact same contract. That idiot set a standard for guys that are better than him. All they have to do is look at him and know, no matter what, they're going to get that contract.

Still don't see why people keep on insisting comparing this to the Finger contract.
It's a comparable. Any time some GM gives out an insanely terrible contract it bumps the market up. It gives Oduya's agent the ability to go in and say "Oduya plays more minutes, scores more points, and plays against tougher competition than Finger, we're not asking for the moon here, just what's fair."

And when Oduya clearly has all the leverage it doesn't work out in our favor.

Now, resign Trav Trav, get a coach, make a trade of some kind, send two guys...do something to get another D up in herrr and we can have fun at training camp.

Look on the bright side, maybe that extra 500k makes it more likely that we get rid of Pando!

fact is, hes vital to the offseason plans and id rather give it to a person whos improving and earning his pay than a jamoke like pando. im content with this deal. so scratch one need off the offseason list.

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Happy to keep Johnny.

Anze Kopitar, retard.

Anze falls into the Malkin category of "person with downs syndrome who happens to be incredible at hockey".

It's a comparable. Any time some GM gives out an insanely terrible contract it bumps the market up. It gives Oduya's agent the ability to go in and say "Oduya plays more minutes, scores more points, and plays against tougher competition than Finger, we're not asking for the moon here, just what's fair."

And when Oduya clearly has all the leverage it doesn't work out in our favor.

Exactly and he got what's fair. So, you can't complain.

Anze falls into the Malkin category of "person with downs syndrome who happens to be incredible at hockey".

When I look at it again, Johnny doesn't look any better. looks like they'll be representing Sweden and Slovenia at the special Olympics.

3.5 million toward the cap is a bit of a bargain for Oduya. Reports were some teams were willing to offer 4 to 5 million a season. We will see how this one pans out.

He's young, improving, and we know what we're getting with him. I'm happy with it

Let's see what some of these UFAs get on the open market tomorrow

Good deal for Oduya, like others said do you risk him on the open market after developing him? Now I see why Conte and Lou have a Swedish fetish after how Oduya bloom with proper ice time and patience.

Bob McKenzie at the draft said that the Swedish leagues are preparing players better than anybody for the new NHL.

Should be a fun day tommorrow.

Kinda totally forgot tomorrow was July 1st.

It really is pretty interesting that he almost scored 30 points with literally zero PP time for most of the season. Compared to other defensemen:

Even Strength/PP Points
Oduya - 23/5
Green - 34/38
Lidstrom - 25/33
Rafalski - 31/28
Boyle - 24/32
Streit - 25/29
Chara - 20/24
Wideman - 24/25
Phaneuf - 26/21
Pronger - 19/28
Martin - 14/18

So we all know he isn't the best on the PP, but as far as even strength goes he's a pretty valuable offensive defenseman.

^^

Nice Stats Crash

Kinda totally forgot tomorrow was July 1st.

To quote the great BONE THUGS AND HARMONY:

WAKE UP, WAKE UP it's the first of the month.

3.5 M is more than I would have liked, but far less than if we tried to sign him after he received offers on July 1. Signed for less than market value = win Lou. 3.5 M isn't a bad compromise, especially with the awful Finger contract being used as precedent by every FA defenceman.

I keep asking myself why are we concerned about signing our #2 d-man for 3.5 mil?

Two schools of thought to salary structure...

The NYR have a lot of big contracts some of which are major handicaps (See Gomez/redden/Roszival/Drury/Lundquist), all of which are over 5 mil. BUT...they have a bunch making under $1 mil to help offset. The problem is the overpaid guys under-perform and the underpaid guys carry the load (Dubinsky, Betts, Callahan, Stall, Girardi).

The Devils don't have many Big contracts over $5 mil except Elias, Rolston, and Brodeur. However, it seems like everyone is making between $2.5 and 4 million. This logic makes up a team of average players.

I think the NYR have the right strategy but have just poorly executed it by making bad choices in players. While a team like Pittsburgh and Detroit show how by selecting the right stars to pay top dollar, ones that will carry the load for the team, and then balancing those with young, lower paid players is the right mix. I'm not sure many teams follow our rule of parity among player salaries but it seems like it's a "safer" method although we need to find a way to infuse some youth for the sake of being able to afford the ability to select those higher priced "stars."

I keep asking myself why are we concerned about signing our #2 d-man for 3.5 mil?

Two schools of thought to salary structure...

The NYR have a lot of big contracts some of which are major handicaps (See Gomez/redden/Roszival/Drury/Lundquist), all of which are over 5 mil. BUT...they have a bunch making under $1 mil to help offset. The problem is the overpaid guys under-perform and the underpaid guys carry the load (Dubinsky, Betts, Callahan, Stall, Girardi).

The Devils don't have many Big contracts over $5 mil except Elias, Rolston, and Brodeur. However, it seems like everyone is making between $2.5 and 4 million. This logic makes up a team of average players.

I think the NYR have the right strategy but have just poorly executed it by making bad choices in players. While a team like Pittsburgh and Detroit show how by selecting the right stars to pay top dollar, ones that will carry the load for the team, and then balancing those with young, lower paid players is the right mix. I'm not sure many teams follow our rule of parity among player salaries but it seems like it's a "safer" method although we need to find a way to infuse some youth for the sake of being able to afford the ability to select those higher priced "stars."

Except their problem is going to be that Staal, Dubinsky and Callahan are all going to become 3 million dollar + players sooner than later.

Except their problem is going to be that Staal, Dubinsky and Callahan are all going to become 3 million dollar + players sooner than later.

And their farm system, while admittedly good, eventually will not be able to fill the holes well enough. I would argue that this has already happened this past season.

Except their problem is going to be that Staal, Dubinsky and Callahan are all going to become 3 million dollar + players sooner than later.

Yep, the Rangers bought time, but they haven't won anything yet to make buying the time worthwhile. And once time runs out....

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Oduya jersey comin right up for me :)

good to see him back as it was crucial to get him locked up, 3.5 is higher than i woulda liked but oh well i guess

I am in love with this signing.

This is a great piece of news. I´m so glad Johnny stays home.

Unless Oduya continues to improve, $3.5M is too much

Unless Oduya continues to improve, $3.5M is too much

How? Oduya is very good defensively and puts up points at even strength. He'd probably be close to 40 points if he got ample PP time.

Who would you replace Oduya with for less?

Unless Oduya continues to improve, $3.5M is too much

It's less than his open market value. We don't have anyone in Lowell who can immediately step into his role for less money, and I think we'd be hard pressed to sign a better defenceman for less. I also don't think Oduya has quite reached his full potential yet. He is 27 and entering the prime of his career, I think we did very well to keep him here.

Not a knock on Oduya or anything, but I just hope be improves next year.

Good deal for Johnny O. So excited he is back in red and black!

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Happy to keep Johnny.

Anze Kopitar, retard.

Oduya=focused skater chasing down a loose puck
Kopitar=cr@pping himself in front of 16,000 people

Haven't had time to read the whole thread, but I gave a woohoo!!! at work when I heard the deal was finalized. Thank god for my blackberry, I don't know what I'd do without it. I think half of my shift today i spent on the internet. lol.

But this deal is great because it's not too much, and it's about exactly what a player like Oduya should be getting now a days

Can't wait for the Frenzy to start tomorrow!!!

Signing Oduya was a good move for the Devils he earned the 3.5 M offer he could have done better probably $4 M elsewhere. Now Lou will sign Traves and then he is done. Oh he will do Greene and some others that don't count in the scheme of things.

Unless Oduya continues to improve, $3.5M is too much

I'm with you on this one. I feel like he's getting that $$ based on the assumption he'll get better.

I don't think it's "far too much". But more than I would like. BUT, if all pans out, he improves and this deal works for both sides.

It's less than his open market value. We don't have anyone in Lowell who can immediately step into his role for less money, and I think we'd be hard pressed to sign a better defenceman for less. I also don't think Oduya has quite reached his full potential yet. He is 27 and entering the prime of his career, I think we did very well to keep him here.

Spot on.

I agree 100% with this post.

I would have liked it to have been a little lower also but it was fair.

Good deal both ways. And I understand we resigned both Zajac and Greene.

Lou may have to dump Pando to add a center and another defensemen. Everson says after signing Oduya, Zajac and Greene, we have about 5 and 6 million in cap space.

Good deal both ways. And I understand we resigned both Zajac and Greene.

Lou may have to dump Pando to add a center and another defensemen. Everson says after signing Oduya, Zajac and Greene, we have about 5 and 6 million in cap space.

We did?

We didn't. Lou can't sign them til Noon today according to TG. He made qualifying offers to Zajac, Davis, Vrana but did not make one to Greene.

I'm with you on this one. I feel like he's getting that $$ based on the assumption he'll get better.

Not to mention, Ohlund just signed for Oduya money :facepalm:

I dont like the 7 years at all (he'll be 39), but either Oduya is overpaid or Ohlund is underpaid.

Not to mention, Ohlund just signed for Oduya money :facepalm:

I dont like the 7 years at all (he'll be 39), but either Oduya is overpaid or Ohlund is underpaid.
Ohlund has been in a pretty constant decline for the last two seasons. They have about the same worth. Plus the age difference, Oduya is in his ascendancy.

We didn't. Lou can't sign them til Noon today according to TG. He made qualifying offers to Zajac, Davis, Vrana but did not make one to Greene.

Vrana was a retainer... He's going back to Czech to play, but we will retain his NHL rights for the mean time with that offer.

Not to mention, Ohlund just signed for Oduya money :facepalm:

I dont like the 7 years at all (he'll be 39), but either Oduya is overpaid or Ohlund is underpaid.

Front loaded means he'll make 22.5 Mill (reported) over the first 5 and can retire. Artificially lowers the salary cap hit he has. I'm not surprised by this move, and I am willing to bet it becomes a common tactic. I.e., don't be surprised if Shannan gets a 3 year/3 mill front loaded. He can retire after 1 more year and pocket 2 million, while only being a 1 mill cap hit.

Ohlund has been in a pretty constant decline for the last two seasons. They have about the same worth. Plus the age difference, Oduya is in his ascendancy.

I feel like Ohlund and Redden were good around the same time (Redden was slightly better). Fair assessment, yes?

Now look at the both of their recent contracts... and lol

Front loaded means he'll make 22.5 Mill (reported) over the first 5 and can retire. Artificially lowers the salary cap hit he has. I'm not surprised by this move, and I am willing to bet it becomes a common tactic. I.e., don't be surprised if Shannan gets a 3 year/3 mill front loaded. He can retire after 1 more year and pocket 2 million, while only being a 1 mill cap hit.


If teams do this, dont they take a hit on part of the "unused" salary? If not, they should. Or they should change the rules, because that just makes a mockery of the salary cap.

If teams do this, dont they take a hit on part of the "unused" salary? If not, they should. Or they should change the rules, because that just makes a mockery of the salary cap.

I really don't know. I clearly haven't read the CBA... lol

The way I've been reading is that he can retire without any penalty. The only issue with this is if the player doesn't want to retire, you can't do anything about it. It's all under-the-table type stuff.

If teams do this, dont they take a hit on part of the "unused" salary? If not, they should. Or they should change the rules, because that just makes a mockery of the salary cap.
Not if they were signed when they were younger than 35.

It was intentionally designed this way, and you know it was because it's regulated: the amount paid a player can't fall by more than half from one year to the next.

Not if they were signed when they were younger than 35.

Ah. So Shanny doesn't fit into this category. That is the protection of this idea in the CBA...