We need a thread for our newest Swede.

A poor mans Zetterberg is what I am feeling.

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josefson alongside tedenby sounds swede

and bergfors

I still can't believe we got Josefson. Our past 3 drafts have been out ****ing standing.

From one of CD's posts in the draft thread:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=394807
Josefson has all the tools to play -- and succeed -- at the same level as players far older.

"His strengths are that he can read the play, he's strong with the puck, moves his feet really well and he always gets himself time when he gets the puck on his stick," said Monten.

Even Josefson admitted he already possesses the foundation of an NHL-ready game.

"I'm a pretty good two-way center with good skating ability and good vision," he said. "I like to set my linemates up for scoring opportunities when I can."


http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=417288
"My goal is to play in NHL," Josefson said. "It's my dream. I will do the things to be there as fast as possible."

According to Stubb, Josefson is not that far away from the NHL, especially after maturing at a rapid rate this season by playing in the Elitserien.

"He is a very good two-way player," said Stubb. "He has a very good responsibility for his defensive duties."

The 6-foot, 187-pound Josefson may be defensively conscious -- always a plus in today's NHL -- but it is offense that is his calling card.

"He's more a playmaker, a guy who sees the ice really well, creates a lot of scoring chances with his passing skills," Stubb said. "He's very good with the stick and very good in traffic because he is an excellent stickhandler. He's a smooth passer with very soft hands."

http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectdetail.htm?csid=615460#&intcmpid=hdr-scrbrd-draft


NHL Team: Detroit Red Wings
NHL Player: Henrik Zetterberg and Sidney Crosby
Movie: Miracle
TV Show: Friends
Video Game: FIFA
Actor/Actress: Brad Pitt and Jessica Alba
Group: Gyllene Tider
Website: Facebook.com
Pump-up Song: Almost everything that’s good
Pre-game meal: Pasta

He's a possession center who's solid defensively. He's perfect for the style I think we should be playing.

http://twitter.com/nhldevils

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Josefson says he's good friends with the Devils' 08 first rounder Mattias Tedenby
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Josefson plays an unselfish game, and said he often looks to pass first...
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One more year in Sweden for the two way forward...
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Josefson says he's more than happy to be a Devil


http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectdetail.htm?dpid=5372&cmpid=nhl-twt-umassdilo

Looks like Tedenby and Josefson will be coming over together.

One more year in the SEL, then Jacob and Mattias come over. (Y)

I think this is his facebook
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=600896214&hiq=jacob%2Cjosefson

This guy must have been very high on Lou and Contes' list, especially with the guys picked after him. Trust in them, great day so far.

Awesome pick, I really thought the Rags were going to take him and am glad they took the high school skater who played against weak competition.

As a supporter of Djurgården which is his club, Jacob has always come across as a very mature and level headed guy. He made the transition from juniors to playing against men in the Elite League in his stride and broke our record for an U-18 player in points playing for the mens team.

We're really looking forward to seeing him next season and hopefully he'll play top 6 all season, look for him to double his points tally if that happens.

I really thought Tedenby was going to be a NYR pick last year too. Weird how that turned out... I am delighted. I think these two will be staples on our team.

With things going completely to plan, Zajac/Josefson/Cormier/Henrique is mega depth down the middle.

I really thought Tedenby was going to be a NYR pick last year too. Weird how that turned out... I am delighted. I think these two will be staples on our team.

With things going completely to plan, Zajac/Josefson/Cormier/Henrique is mega depth down the middle.
Parise-Zajac
Tedenby-Josefson
Halischuk-Cormier
Wohlberg(?)-Henrique

This guy must have been very high on Lou and Contes' list, especially with the guys picked after him. Trust in them, great day so far.

He was very high on their list:
Devils general manager Lou Lamoriello said the team's scouts had Josefson ranked "very high" and was happy he fell far enough for them have a chance to trade up and pick him.

“He’s a complete player,” Devils general manager Lamoriello said. “I haven’t seen our draft table as I’ve seen them today in a long time because where we had him ranked and then he didn’t go. Then, you get to point where you say, ‘Maybe he’s going to be close.’ Then, when you get close to where you’re going to draft, maybe four or five picks, that’s the only chance you have of somebody else switching. So, we made some calls and we were able to get Calgary to do it.”
http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/2009/06/devils-trade-up-to-select-josefson.html

VERY happy with him. We didn't have to give our second, and gave up our pitiful third round pick. Still have Minnesota's early third. Lots of things to be excited about.

Now I want Olivier Roy tomorrow in the second round.

yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss: yo:

Video of devils drafting josefson

http://devils.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?catid=745&id=44297

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=lebrun_pierre&entryID=3828381

Conte pointed to Brampton Battalion (OHL) center Matt Duchene and University of Minnesota center Jordan Schroeder, as well as Swedish prospects Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson and Jacob Josefson as players who could put heat on Tavares and Hedman. (Hedman, who plays in the Swedish Elite League, is the top-ranked European; Tavares, who recently was traded from the Oshawa Generals to the London Knights in the OHL, tops the North American list).

Here's the thing, he sounds like a solid pick from what I have read, but our very less than sub-par drafting of Euro's the past decade does make me a little more than apprehensive than usual.

Here's the thing, he sounds like a solid pick from what I have read, but our very less than sub-par drafting of Euro's the past decade does make me a little more than apprehensive than usual.

wasn't like they were going off the board. seems like a good value, even if I have no clue about these players.

Here's the thing, he sounds like a solid pick from what I have read, but our very less than sub-par drafting of Euro's the past decade does make me a little more than apprehensive than usual.

Thats another reason I thought they were going to take Schroeder. It seemed to mirror Parise's situation.

Give me Mikko Koskinen in the 2nd and Alex Velischek in the 3rd please!!! Great pick in the first!

Expect a goaltender and a defenseman with the next two picks.

I can't wait to see what Goose has to say about this pick. He must be ECSTATIC. Just like I am :).

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What is up with European and animal sounds? :laugh::facepalm:

Love the pick.

He's a hunk.

Parise and Josefson will rake in the female Devils fans.

He's a hunk.

Parise and Josefson will rake in the female Devils fans.

Great...I knew we should have traded up for Ryan "Pizza Face" Ellis.

He's a hunk.

Parise and Josefson will rake in the female Devils fans.

And maybe some male fans too. ;)

:sarcasm:

Great...I knew we should have traded up for Ryan "Pizza Face" Ellis.

:laugh::laugh:

And maybe some male fans too. ;)

:sarcasm:

Wow...I'll admit it, you really had me fooled with all that k-train/j-station drama.

Here's the thing, he sounds like a solid pick from what I have read, but our very less than sub-par drafting of Euro's the past decade does make me a little more than apprehensive than usual.

I right there with you Ronnie. Until we have a Swede actually pan out for us I'm a bit weary of taking him especially considering who was on the board.

Obviously I never root for our prospects to fail and I really hope he turns out like some hope him to, i just have my doubts. Prove me wrong JJ.

Wow...I'll admit it, you really had me fooled with all that k-train/j-station drama.

I put on a good act.

I was kindof hoping for Jordan Schroeder at that point, but hey, it seems like it might be a good value pick and sometimes these top Euro kids fall farther than they should due to North American bias. Hope that's the case here.

Nice pick i like what i read about the kid. Maybe he will jump in like Zajac (I dont think he will but you never kno) Adds something we needed to our center. I like what we are doing there with Zajac Cormier and now Jacob thats good down the middle and with the wingers we have Parise Elias Tedenby Bergfors Halischuk and etc we might be about to score in the future.

However i will hold of about how i feel on this draft till its all said and done gotta see if we address the goalie issue and also add quality players in the later rounds like we did last year.

This seems like a pretty safe pick to me. Any time I hear one of our picks described as smart on the ice it puts me at ease. I really think that's what's holding Bergfors back at this point as he may have caught a bit of Suglobov-syndrome.

One of our major organizational needs is also a playmaking center which, by all accounts, it sounds like we got in Josefson. With regards to Ronnie Bass's feelings, I'm happy with taking as many Swedes as possible as long as we keep them as far away from Lowell as possible.

This seems like a pretty safe pick to me. Any time I hear one of our picks described as smart on the ice it puts me at ease. I really think that's what's holding Bergfors back at this point as he may have caught a bit of Suglobov-syndrome.

One of our major organizational needs is also a playmaking center which, by all accounts, it sounds like we got in Josefson. With regards to Ronnie Bass's feelings, I'm happy with taking as many Swedes as possible as long as we keep them as far away from Lowell as possible.

being across the Atlantic will certainly help that.:laugh:

Yakob

Take it for what it's worth but I just had the great honor of escorting this young man around the Bell Centre with some members of the New Jersey Devils' staff after he was chosen. He's a very nice guy and he not only speaks superb english, but he's pretty funny to boot (cracking a few jokes and laughing when his name on the back of the jersey kept falling off). I got to sit through various audio interviews he did and one of the main things he kept repeating was that he wanted to hopefully walk down the road to the NHL after his contract is up.

One interesting thing you guys might find funny - he was asked during one of the phone interviews if he sees himself as a comparison to Madden and he didn't know who that was, so one of the Devils' guys just told him to mention Zetterberg. By comparison, when the draftees leave the floor to attend other business, most of them are just with one of the guides and the team PR guy, but with New Jersey there was at least 8 people walking around with him and talking to him. They eventually tapered off and a few of them had their pictures taken with him before disappearing, but overall I figured you guys would want a first hand commoners experience of your new prospect.

He's a wonderful kid and after tonight I wish him and your organization all the best.

Comparison: Henrik Zetterberg is what caught my eye.

I am ecstatic with this pick. Schroeder and Tedenby would have made us too small. I'm glad we picked a guy that is roughly Elias' dimensions.

Woo!

I wanted to pick Kris Kristopherson

when the draftees leave the floor to attend other business, most of them are just with one of the guides and the team PR guy, but with New Jersey there was at least 8 people walking around with him and talking to him.

That's just "the family" mentality at work. Thanks for the live info from Le Centre Bell.

Take it for what it's worth but I just had the great honor of escorting this young man around the Bell Centre with some members of the New Jersey Devils' staff after he was chosen. He's a very nice guy and he not only speaks superb english, but he's pretty funny to boot (cracking a few jokes and laughing when his name on the back of the jersey kept falling off). I got to sit through various audio interviews he did and one of the main things he kept repeating was that he wanted to hopefully walk down the road to the NHL after his contract is up.

One interesting thing you guys might find funny - he was asked during one of the phone interviews if he sees himself as a comparison to Madden and he didn't know who that was, so one of the Devils' guys just told him to mention Zetterberg. By comparison, when the draftees leave the floor to attend other business, most of them are just with one of the guides and the team PR guy, but with New Jersey there was at least 8 people walking around with him and talking to him. They eventually tapered off and a few of them had their pictures taken with him before disappearing, but overall I figured you guys would want a first hand commoners experience of your new prospect.

He's a wonderful kid and after tonight I wish him and your organization all the best.

Wow, that made me even happier. I am still in shock that we got Josefson.

Wow, that made me even happier. I am still in shock that we got Josefson.

same.

That's actually pretty neat.

goose called this back in october. good work goose spot on

still like Jacob Josefson if we don't want to trade up too far.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=560254&highlight=jacob+josefson

i dont understand lou and contes sudden love for swedes

i dont understand lou and contes sudden love for swedes

From 5-6 on NHL Network they were showing a 2008 Draft show, with a bunch of footage from the GM's in action. Detroit's Holland was talking to one of his staff about how the player they wanted (Thomas McCollum, a goalie) and he said something about how Lou always takes the guy that they want to target, and it always happens just a few picks before Detroit is ready to go. He mentioned Souray in the 3rd round as an example.

I just thought it was interesting that two of the more successful teams have the same targets... Although constantly picking in the mid-to-late 20's is obviously going to have that effect.

JJ baby! So glad we didn't pick Schroeder. Just another overrated golden goofup. Very safe pick with a solid upside...

Great trade Lou...

Please God let the prospect camp be open to the public this year.

Josefson's scouting reports, the way he conducts himself in interviews, and the way he plays on the ice reminds me so much of Patrik Elias. I am so happy right now, I can't even fall asleep. This was so much better than I was expecting from this draft.

I would LOVE Tatar in round 2 tomorrow.

I'm going to take two Tylenol PM's.

See you for the 2nd round, all.

I initially really wanted Schroeder but after reading about this guy, and seeing his interviews I am getting more and more pumped.

Hopefully Tedenby/Josefson = Parise/Zajac ? Or something kind of close.

I initially really wanted Schroeder but after reading about this guy, and seeing his interviews I am getting more and more pumped.

Hopefully Tedenby/Josefson = Parise/Zajac ? Or something kind of close.


Lets just say with Josefson, Tedenby, Parise, Zajac, Halischuk, Clarkson, and Bergfors we're looking pretty good up front for years.

zajac/parise = hard working pair
tedenby/josefson = finesse scoring pair

Zajac and Parise separated aren't real scoring threats (meaning off a pure wrister or deke) but theyre hard work and ferocious forechecking nets them alot of goals.

Tedenby and Josefson are more finesse and will probably create alot of fancy plays while still being defensively responsible.

If I were to realistically compare him to an NHL player by his standards as of now, it'd be Cory Stillman. Uses his size well and an excellent passer. He doesn't have nearly as much finesse as Zetterberg yet but hopefully that'll improve.

I'd like to see this in 2 years:

Parise-Zajac-Bergfors
Tedenby-Josefson-Elias
Halischk-Cormier-Clarkson :yo:

Lets just say with Josefson, Tedenby, Parise, Zajac, Halischuk, Clarkson, and Bergfors we're looking pretty good up front for years.

I think it's safe to say now, that we have some legitimate firepower up front. Now, we need a true top-notch defenseman. But then again if we had 6 Paul Martin's we'd be set and we got 2 so far lol.

I think it's safe to say now, that we have some legitimate firepower up front. Now, we need a true top-notch defenseman. But then again if we had 6 Paul Martin's we'd be set and we got 2 so far lol.

It's nice to see. ****, I'm excited now. We just need defenseman and solid future goaltending prospects.

Here's the thing, he sounds like a solid pick from what I have read, but our very less than sub-par drafting of Euro's the past decade does make me a little more than apprehensive than usual.
How's this sound?

“He’s a complete player," Lamoriello said. “I haven’t seen our draft table as excited as I’ve seen them today in a long time because where we had him ranked and then he didn’t go. Then, you get to point where you say, ‘Maybe he’s going to be close.’ Then, when you get close to where you’re going to draft, maybe four or five picks, that’s the only chance you have of somebody else switching. So, we made some calls and we were able to get Calgary to do it.”

By the way, why are the avatars down...?

I would LOVE Tatar in round 2 tomorrow.
He'll be taken in the early 30's. Along with Toni Rajala.

By the way, why are the avatars down...?

To reduce the load on the server since the draft causes so much traffic and posting.

How's this sound?

“He’s a complete player," Lamoriello said. “I haven’t seen our draft table as excited as I’ve seen them today in a long time because where we had him ranked and then he didn’t go. Then, you get to point where you say, ‘Maybe he’s going to be close.’ Then, when you get close to where you’re going to draft, maybe four or five picks, that’s the only chance you have of somebody else switching. So, we made some calls and we were able to get Calgary to do it.”

I believe it. I don't think I have ever seen Conte move that fast towards the podium with that big of a grin on his face. Alright, I am calling it a night. Can't wait to wake up in 6 hours to watch the rest of the draft. JJ is the man!

To reduce the load on the server since the draft causes so much traffic and posting.
Ah yes. Makes sense.

I take it July 1st they're going to be down too. This is NOTHING in comparison to the mayhem that's going to go down on UFA day.

I believe it. I don't think I have ever seen Conte move that fast towards the podium with that big of a grin on his face. Alright, I am calling it a night. Can't wait to wake up in 6 hours to watch the rest of the draft. JJ is the man!
True. Everybody looked SO damn happy. This is really going to be a MASSIVE steal. I think John Moore could have been as well, but **** it, we're rock solid on center. Now, we just need to iron up our goaltending, defense and possibly right wing, and it'll be another AMAZING draft.

Haha, I called him JaJo, but realized that could stand for Jack Johnson as well. Gonna be hard to create a nickname for this guy.

True. Everybody looked SO damn happy. This is really going to be a MASSIVE steal. I think John Moore could have been as well, but **** it, we're rock solid on center. Now, we just need to iron up our goaltending, defense and possibly right wing, and it'll be another AMAZING draft.

Haha, I called him JaJo, but realized that could stand for Jack Johnson as well. Gonna be hard to create a nickname for this guy.

Jacob.

Yakub.

Yak.

Yakitate

Great draft so far for the Devils.

I have no doubt in my mind Josefson was probably ranked in Lou's top 8 for the draft.

I follow Djurgården and Josefson is a good pick for you guys. He plays the kind of smart two way game that fits well into teams like New Jersey and Detroit. I would give him one, maybe two years more in the SEL and let him get comfortable with playing a major part of a SEL team and maybe get some National Team experience before he's brought over the pond.

Josefson does not remind me of Madden at all. He seems to be a more polished version of Travis. Which is a very good thing.

I think he gets a long look this year in training camp but eventually plays one more year in Sweden, then both Tedenby and him come over.

Josefson should be in the 2010-2011 Starting lineup.

The interesting thing is, I can see Josefson crossing the pond at the same time as Tedenby. Then those two will be the Swedish BFFs that Parise and Zajac are. We'll have the greatest one-two punch in our history.

Can someone say powerhouse?

The interesting thing is, I can see Josefson crossing the pond at the same time as Tedenby. Then those two will be the Swedish BFFs that Parise and Zajac are. We'll have the greatest one-two punch in our history.

Can someone say powerhouse?

I think that someone already said that Tedenby and Josefson are already pretty good friends. Now they just need to be friend request bergfors on facebook and their set :sarcasm:


:laugh:

True. Everybody looked SO damn happy. This is really going to be a MASSIVE steal. I think John Moore could have been as well, but **** it, we're rock solid on center. Now, we just need to iron up our goaltending, defense and possibly right wing, and it'll be another AMAZING draft.

Haha, I called him JaJo, but realized that could stand for Jack Johnson as well. Gonna be hard to create a nickname for this guy.

Jacob.

Yakub.

Yak.

Yakitate


yayo?

http://www.emobilez.com/iphone-wallpapers/data/media/29/scarface_tony_montana_cocaine.jpg

i was so stoked when i saw that he kept dropping and other teams were taking other players. hes def one of the players i wanted and i got really ****ing nervous when the rags got up there and i thought theyd take him. then rascally ol lou pulls a fast one and moves up a few spots and i was cheering like they just scored a goal when they selected josefson. now i dunno how far that zetterberg comparison will go, thats a pretty bold claim i feel, but as long as he turns out basically like a swedish version of zajac but with slightly better offense(which is what im expecting) then we have ourselves a great young player. great job lou:handclap:.

I think that someone already said that Tedenby and Josefson are already pretty good friends. Now they just need to be friend request bergfors on facebook and their set :sarcasm:


:laugh:
Rofl. Exactly. But they will now be even GREATER friends.

yayo?

http://www.emobilez.com/iphone-wallpapers/data/media/29/scarface_tony_montana_cocaine.jpg
LOL, Yayo. Not bad at all.

Gooooood morning all. And what a good morning it is!

Yes, I got my guy for the 2nd straight year, but the important thing is Conte, Lou, and the Devils got their guy in Josefson. aboriginal has it right, I think - he's a lot like Zajac but with more finesse, more offense. I know the European thing can make us Devils fans squeamish given our history, but I honestly think he's about as safe a bet there was after Schenn was gone. He thinks the game very well at both ends of the rink, is a humble guy, has size, speed, and the skill set of a top-line center.

You get all that, but, what's more, he's friends with Tedenby, so now we can worry a little less about him potentially not coming over.

All in all, giving up our third-round pick for a top-10 or 15 player in this draft and an insurance policy on our best prospect = big, huge, epic ****ing win.

Josefson does not remind me of Madden at all. He seems to be a more polished version of Travis. Which is a very good thing.

I think he gets a long look this year in training camp but eventually plays one more year in Sweden, then both Tedenby and him come over.

Josefson should be in the 2010-2011 Starting lineup.

Josefson is contracted with Djurgårdens IF over the 2009/2010 season.
(and he's stated on multiple occasions that he will play SEL at least the coming season)

I still can't believe we got Josefson. Our past 3 drafts have been out ****ing standing.

:shakehead

The feeling seems to be with another season in the Swedish Mens league, he'll be ready to come over and try to take a spot on the team.

Josefson is contracted with Djurgårdens IF over the 2009/2010 season.
(and he's stated on multiple occasions that he will play SEL at least the coming season)

oh ok thanks for clearing that up.


:shakehead

http://blogs.setonhill.edu/DenamarieErcolani/troll.jpg

Coming from a guy who thinks Marc Staal will be a top 5 Dman next year.

Marc Staal will never be a top 5 d-man, let alone next year.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y248/O-mizzle/vundertvins.jpg

Lol wait...Calgary gave us that pick?!

You don't say...:sarcasm:

Lol wait...Calgary gave us that pick?!

You don't say...:sarcasm:

Yeah, even though we still gave them a fair shake in return, it seems like a half-hearted "compensation" for the big **** you they just gave us.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y248/O-mizzle/vundertvins.jpg

i vike it

Hah, the wondertwins on the first line and the vundertvins on the second. :biglaugh:

Josefson is JMFJ

Sounds like a Swedish version of Zajac. I'm loving this pick.

Sounds like a Swedish version of Zajac. I'm loving this pick.

And picked at the exact same spot.

I love how a poor WJC as a 17 year old made people write this kid off. Next season I bet he's a catalyst for that team.

Josefson is JMFJ

Please god no, don't put him in the same class as Jack Johnson...yechhhh.

And picked at the exact same spot.

I love how a poor WJC as a 17 year old made people write this kid off. Next season I bet he's a catalyst for that team.

If not for his poor WJC, we wouldn't have been able to pick him at 20. He only had one point less than MPS this season in the SEL.

If not for his poor WJC, we wouldn't have been able to pick him at 20. He only had one point less than MPS this season in the SEL.

Playing less time I think too. I'm glad he had a poor WJC.

Ahhh, Zajac, Josefson, Cormier for years, and years, and years *sigh*

Playing less time I think too. I'm glad he had a poor WJC.

Ahhh, Zajac, Josefson, Cormier for years, and years, and years *sigh*

Damn it feels good to be gangsta.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y248/O-mizzle/vundertvins.jpg

You'll be hearing from my lawyers...


I was talking with Randal last night and my initial comparison was another Zajac with a little more Parise in him, and a dash of Madden... (both more scoring and defensive abilities out of the gate).

Let's just hope he doesn't turn out to be a different kind of Jacob...

http://images.greencine.com/images/movies/amg/dvd/cov150/drt100/t158/t158182h2qo.jpg

Damn it feels good to be gangsta.


It sure does. If the other two pan of course ahaha.

It sure does. If the other two pan of course ahaha.

lol well of course. I sure hope they do.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/8c/fullj.b48b8560a9fc89253db47ed1fe7b5758/b48b8560a9fc89253db47ed1fe7b5758-getty-88659659mh078_2009_nhl_draf.jpg

Jacob looks like he should be playing polo at Bushwoood Country Club.

Our first two picks have been home runs in my opinion.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/8c/fullj.b48b8560a9fc89253db47ed1fe7b5758/b48b8560a9fc89253db47ed1fe7b5758-getty-88659659mh078_2009_nhl_draf.jpg

Dear lord... we drafted Elijah Wood.

:facepalm:

Dear lord... we drafted Elijah Wood.

:facepalm:

:laugh: but they're both dreamy!

We are going to create a date rapist line.

Lord of the Stanley Cup Rings?

Yeah, I know; lame.

Lord of the Stanley Cup Rings?

Yeah, I know; lame.

1ytCEuuW2_A

Hah, the wondertwins on the first line and the vundertvins on the second. :biglaugh:

Hopefully its the vundertriplets

I believe it. I don't think I have ever seen Conte move that fast towards the podium with that big of a grin on his face.

nah, he was way more excited about Parise. He literally flew to the podium lol. But yea, this is definitely the second happiest I've seen him.

I'm starting to come around to this pick. Still would rather taken Schroeder but I guess he isn't too bad.

I'm starting to come around to this pick. Still would rather taken Schroeder but I guess he isn't too bad.

Schroeder is shorter than Tedenby.

That line would be tossed around like rags.

Schroeder is shorter than Tedenby.

That line would be tossed around like rags.

Plus Josefson is solid defensively, so we could see him make the jump straight to the NHL like TravTrav did.

Plus Josefson is solid defensively, so we could see him make the jump straight to the NHL like TravTrav did.
I think he'll be in our lineup opening night 2010-2011.

I think he'll be in our lineup opening night 2010-2011.

That's what I'm thinking. Lou seems to think he's very close.

Jacob looks like he should be playing polo at Bushwoood Country Club.

Our first two picks have been home runs in my opinion.

haahaahah

That's what I'm thinking. Lou seems to think he's very close.

I believe he is. It'll be like Zaje I think. He played 1 year in ND and then ended up in Jersey the next season. I love Josefson!

Schroeder is shorter than Tedenby.

That line would be tossed around like rags.

who's to say Tedenby ever becomes anything.(I think he will but you never know). IMO you can't think like that. Schroeder, again in my opinion, is the better player. Whatever I hope the best for all our prospects anyway.

We got the guy I wanted. As soon as the trade up was announced, I knew it, too.

I am so unbelievably excited for the coming years.

who's to say Tedenby ever becomes anything.(I think he will but you never know). IMO you can't think like that. Schroeder, again in my opinion, is the better player. Whatever I hope the best for all our prospects anyway.

I'm just saying that when you have a small guy like Tedenby already it's not a good strategy to put all your eggs in the "small" basket.

Jacob looks like he should be playing polo at Bushwoood Country Club. He really does look like the 4th generation Ivy League Squash team captain. Also, I've considered putting up condos at Bushwood.

I think he'll be in our lineup opening night 2010-2011.

I say no, despite the "he's close" talk we've been hearing. Starting a 19 year old is a very un-Devil like concept. Not unheard of, but rare for Lou. One year in Sweden, One year in the AHL "learning the NA game", then New Jersey is my guess.

He really does look like the 4th generation Ivy League Squash team captain. Also, I've considered putting up condos at Bushwood.



I say no, despite the "he's close" talk we've been hearing. Starting a 19 year old is a very un-Devil like concept. Not unheard of, but rare for Lou. One year in Sweden, One year in the AHL "learning the NA game", then New Jersey is my guess.
If we're still desperately short on centers I think it'll be hard to have him spend a year in the AHL. Besides, I might rather have him spend the extra development year in the SEL.

I say no, despite the "he's close" talk we've been hearing. Starting a 19 year old is a very un-Devil like concept. Not unheard of, but rare for Lou. One year in Sweden, One year in the AHL "learning the NA game", then New Jersey is my guess.

Thats what I foresee. I think both him and Taydenboo come over next year and spend a season in the AHL before making the jump to the NHL. Ofcouse alot of this could depend on what our team looks like at that point. If we don't have a center he could be pushed in early like Zajac.

He really does look like the 4th generation Ivy League Squash team captain. Also, I've considered putting up condos at Bushwood.



Sir, Bushwood is not for sale.

The highest point totals for an 18 year old since Backstrom.

And he was playing on the fourth line.

Yevah.

We got the guy I wanted. As soon as the trade up was announced, I knew it, too.

I am so unbelievably excited for the coming years.

likewise. i cheered like mad when they chose him.:handclap:

Team Sweden East

The highest point totals for an 18 year old since Backstrom.

And he was playing on the fourth line.

Yevah.

Just went from 6 to midnight.

Can we label all of our Swedes with the prefix "King"?

Can we label all of our Swedes with the prefix "King"?

King Bergfors, King Taydenboo, King Urbom. I like it.:laugh:

Can we label all of our Swedes with the prefix "King"?

Consider it done.

Can we label all of our Swedes with the prefix "King"?

And cheer their name in unison when they put a routine point shot on net?

Can we label all of our Swedes with the prefix "King"?

My old username ftw

King Bergfors, King Taydenboo, King Urbom. I like it.:laugh:

RANDOM OUTBURST!!!!!!!! CANNOT CONTROL IT!!!! TEE TA...TEE TA...TEE TA...TAYYYYYYYDENABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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RANDOM OUTBURST!!!!!!!! CANNOT CONTROL IT!!!! TEE TA...TEE TA...TEE TA...TAYYYYYYYDENABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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I was looking for this clip to put on facebook.


Tayyyyyyyydenbooooooo

im watching this now but i assume jacoby will be in there

http://hockeysfuture.craveonline.com/hf-snap-shots/video/hf-snap-shots-a-look-at-the-swedish-flavour-of-the-2009-draft-60131

ok nevermind they didnt

Nice kid. Mature on and off the ice. Zetterberg-esque. As a fan of his it's nice to see him come to a well run team like the Devils.

For the record, I think it's harsh to say that he had a bad WJC since he was injured (or was it sick?) for most of it.

Awful musical taste though. 'Gyllene tider' is his favourite band :laugh:

Nice kid. Mature on and off the ice. Zetterberg-esque. As a fan of his it's nice to see him come to a well run team like the Devils.

For the record, I think it's harsh to say that he had a bad WJC since he was injured (or was it sick?) for most of it.

Awful musical taste though. 'Gyllene tider' is his favourite band :laugh:

I youtube'd Gyllene Tider, and turned it off after 30 seconds.


He will learn to love Sinatra once Lou gets him under his wing.

"Gyllene Tider"

d_cdAYydf50



its like abba meets bob marley with a side of hot steamy poo


he is a bit of a pretty boy it seems and now after listening to this do you guys think he might be.....

not that theres anything wrong with that

Sweden does alot of things differently apparently...:sarcasm::sarcasm:

You see what I mean? :laugh:

The lead singer was also in the group Roxette, which had a US no 1 with "The Look" sometime around 1990.

"Gyllene Tider"

d_cdAYydf50



its like abba meets bob marley with a side of hot steamy poo


he is a bit of a pretty boy it seems and now after listening to this do you guys think he might be.....

not that theres anything wrong with that

80's super group Gyllene Tider! OMGZZ!!!!!!!!

And to answer your question, yes though there is nothing wrong with that.

sommartider!!!!11!1

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He's not gay. He's just got atrocious musical taste. Gyllene Tider are very popular with his age group it seems. You hear their songs at basically every high school graduation party around here. Not that I go to many of those nowadays.

He's not gay. He's just got atrocious musical taste. Gyllene Tider are very popular with his age group it seems. You hear their songs at basically every high school graduation party around here. Not that I go to many of those nowadays.
It's the new NSync. God I hated them.

It's the new NSync. God I hated them.

for realz!

98° for lyfe playa!

I can't wait to hear that song blasting in the locker room after a win. Too bad Holik wont be around to straighten him up.

No Strings Attached was a top 10 album, period.

No Strings Attached was a top 10 album, period.

It might sound crazy but it ain't no lie,
Baby, bye, bye, bye

I cannot wait for the coming of Yayo and Tedenboooooo. So sick.

I can't wait to hear that song blasting in the locker room after a win. Too bad Holik wont be around to straighten him up.

Hopefully someone older like Colin White will put an end to that crap real fast. That music will create turnovers.


The lead singer was also in the group Roxette, which had a US no 1 with "The Look" sometime around 1990.

You're being merciful. A far gayer Roxette example would have been, "Joyride" or "It Must Have Been Love" [/runs for Ipod to immediately download "Dangerous"]

sommartider!!!!11!1HEJ HEJ!

Come on. I'm not a fan of that band, but that is an awesome, summery song.

:laugh:

HEJ HEJ!

Come on. I'm not a fan of that band, but that is an awesome, summery song.

:laugh:

Hehe, I could see why some one would like a song like that for nostalgic reasons or whatever, but to me it's weird seeing a young guy listing Gyllene Tider as his favourite band.

Hehe, I could see why some one would like a song like that for nostalgic reasons or whatever, but to me it's weird seeing a young guy listing Gyllene Tider as his favourite band.

we all have our demons

True enough, Åbo

Call me an optimistic ****er, but I think this guy will be much better than Zajac. Took Trav a long time to get himself together, and he was constantly on the receiving end of our hate (especially mine). I don't think that's going to be an issue for Jacob.

Madden 2.0 if u ask me. MAYBE a Zajac type player. not too thrilled

Call me an optimistic ****er, but I think this guy will be much better than Zajac. Took Trav a long time to get himself together, and he was constantly on the receiving end of our hate (especially mine). I don't think that's going to be an issue for Jacob.

I agree. I think he'll make more of an impact right off the bat than Zajac. I wanted Josefson or Moore, so as soon as it was announced that we traded up I got pretty excited. I'm really glad we got such a skilled center because it's a position we're obviously lacking in now and the future. Like someone else said, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's on the roster for game 1 in 2010-2011.

Madden 2.0 if u ask me. MAYBE a Zajac type player. not too thrilled

If he turns into Madden 2.0, we're all doing backflips.

If he turns into Madden 2.0, we're all doing backflips.

They aren't the same types of players. I'm not sure where everyone is getting the Madden comparison from...

They aren't the same types of players. I'm not sure where everyone is getting the Madden comparison from...

He's been referred to as a "solid two-way forward" but that in no way means he's the next Madden which makes the comparison quite silly. Parise is a solid two-way forward.

Anyone else try to type his name into google, search, then click the video link up top? :facepalm:

From what I understand, he doesn't have the speed that Madden used to have, and he actually has hands and vision/passing ability, so beyond being defensively solid I don't see the comparisons at all.

I was there yesterday and was standing up when Lou, Conte and Co. were approaching the podium. I told my friend that if we were to pick Josefson I'd sream my lungs out... They did, so I did :yo:

SUPER TERRIFIC ****ING JOB BOYZ !!!

Why is everyone calling him a second Madden? Just because a player is defensively responsible doesn't make them a Madden type player...

As I've said before, Josefson is nothing like Madden. He's defensively responsible, but Josefson is a possession player. Madden is a transition player.

Madden 2.0 if u ask me. MAYBE a Zajac type player. not too thrilled

Madden is the better skater but Josefson is a notch or two in everything else, Josefson's offensive output will be alot great then what Madden provided.

He is also more polished then Zajac at this age, and will only get better.

He played as a 18 year old in the SEL and scored 16 points, Backstrom during his draft year had 24 points I think.

Madden is the better skater but Josefson is a notch or two in everything else, Josefson's offensive output will be alot great then what Madden provided.

He is also more polished then Zajac at this age, and will only get better.

He played as a 18 year old in the SEL and scored 16 points, Backstrom during his draft year had 24 points I think.
Despite playing only 10 minutes a game on the fourth line, he had five goals and 11 assists in 50 games with Djugarden.

That's pretty impressive. He's like Tedenby. Both guys don't get much icetime overseas, and people are really going to open their eyes when we get these two in Jersey unis. The second line is going to light the lamp as much or more than Parise does.

It may be unfair of me to say this, since neither have zero NHL experience, but I think they'll be more dangerous than the wondertwin duo.

If Taydenboo and JJ are going to be on our second line, where the hell does Elias go?

Madden is the better skater but Josefson is a notch or two in everything else, Josefson's offensive output will be alot great then what Madden provided.

He is also more polished then Zajac at this age, and will only get better.

He played as a 18 year old in the SEL and scored 16 points, Backstrom during his draft year had 24 points I think.

Comparing stats in the SEL doesn't do much unless the guy can't score worth a lick.

I don't see Josefson as a Backstrom type guy since he just doesn't have anywhere near the creativity of Backstrom.

This pick is one of my favorites of the first round, overall.

Like I said last night, I envision an elite 2nd liner in Josefson. A 65 point player over his career who might just hit 70-75 in his prime years if all goes well. Will play both special teams and be a 20 minute or so guy a night. I also think he'll be a Swedish Olympic type guy where they can use him in all situations during international play. A jack of all trades type of guy.

I don't think he'll ever be a true gamebreaker, but after pick 15 you usually don't see them anyway.

I love Josefson. I had him pegged for the Rangers pick for months now and he's probably one of my most favorite forwards in the entire draft. Had him ranked 11th (above Schroeder and MPS, who were 12th and 13th respectively). In comparison, I had Kreider ranked 20th because I think he's a tad less bit safe than Josefson (while I think both will be NHLers no matter what, I see Josefson having the ability to hit his 2nd line upside easier than Kreider hitting his top line upside).

Such a great pick in the 1st round (my favorite prospect in the entire draft) at the end of it.

He needs to really up his consistency and compete levels, but he's a young kid and that happens a lot with them. I wouldn't be worried about that unless he has some more bad international tourneys. I gave him a break on the WJC since he had the flu the entire time, but he should be a big part of the team this year.

If Taydenboo and JJ are going to be on our second line, where the hell does Elias go?
That's the part that scares me. He becomes extendable.

If Taydenboo and JJ are going to be on our second line, where the hell does Elias go?

By the time Tedenby and JJ are up, Elias will be a grandpa and will therefore play on the 3rd or 4th line.

ok atfer reading some more on this guy ive determined that hes Madden 2.0 who can score.... well in the SEL anyways, ive got pretty mixed feelings on this guy esp since its been a long time since one of European picks worked out.

Madden 2.0 on steriods.... happy everyone?

ok atfer reading some more on this guy ive determined that hes Madden 2.0 who can score.... well in the SEL anyways, ive got pretty mixed feelings on this guy esp since its been a long time since one of European picks worked out.

Madden 2.0 on steriods.... happy everyone?

:deadhorse

It may be unfair of me to say this, since neither have zero NHL experience, but I think they'll be more dangerous than the wondertwin duo.

Just thinking about this makes me salivate. Not only will we have an insane top 4, but possibly a great 3rd line too.

ok atfer reading some more on this guy ive determined that hes Madden 2.0 who can score.... well in the SEL anyways, ive got pretty mixed feelings on this guy esp since its been a long time since one of European picks worked out.

Madden 2.0 on steriods.... happy everyone?

He isn't Madden at all in their style of play. I guess you can say they may have the same output (in points) but their styles are nothing alike.

Madden = misses net on breakaway
Josefson = scores on breakaway

I do think expectations are being set a bit high for a lot of our prospects here.:shakehead:

Honestly, better then the wondertwins and Taydenboo better then Elias. Ughh. Let them play first.

Comparing stats in the SEL doesn't do much unless the guy can't score worth a lick.

I don't see Josefson as a Backstrom type guy since he just doesn't have anywhere near the creativity of Backstrom.

This pick is one of my favorites of the first round, overall.

Like I said last night, I envision an elite 2nd liner in Josefson. A 65 point player over his career who might just hit 70-75 in his prime years if all goes well. Will play both special teams and be a 20 minute or so guy a night. I also think he'll be a Swedish Olympic type guy where they can use him in all situations during international play. A jack of all trades type of guy.

I don't think he'll ever be a true gamebreaker, but after pick 15 you usually don't see them anyway.

I love Josefson. I had him pegged for the Rangers pick for months now and he's probably one of my most favorite forwards in the entire draft. Had him ranked 11th (above Schroeder and MPS, who were 12th and 13th respectively). In comparison, I had Kreider ranked 20th because I think he's a tad less bit safe than Josefson (while I think both will be NHLers no matter what, I see Josefson having the ability to hit his 2nd line upside easier than Kreider hitting his top line upside).

Such a great pick in the 1st round (my favorite prospect in the entire draft) at the end of it.

He needs to really up his consistency and compete levels, but he's a young kid and that happens a lot with them. I wouldn't be worried about that unless he has some more bad international tourneys. I gave him a break on the WJC since he had the flu the entire time, but he should be a big part of the team this year.

Honestly, how many 65 point players play on the 2nd line? If he turns out like Zajac I'd be thrilled. However it seems to me that with our slightly thin pipeline, Lamoriello needed a sure bet more than a homerun. I'm not saying Josefson is a surefire NHLer, but like you said, he's a safe pick.

I guess no one tried the google thing with his name and clicking video? :shakehead

Comparing stats in the SEL doesn't do much unless the guy can't score worth a lick.

I don't see Josefson as a Backstrom type guy since he just doesn't have anywhere near the creativity of Backstrom.

This pick is one of my favorites of the first round, overall.

Like I said last night, I envision an elite 2nd liner in Josefson. A 65 point player over his career who might just hit 70-75 in his prime years if all goes well. Will play both special teams and be a 20 minute or so guy a night. I also think he'll be a Swedish Olympic type guy where they can use him in all situations during international play. A jack of all trades type of guy.

I don't think he'll ever be a true gamebreaker, but after pick 15 you usually don't see them anyway.

I love Josefson. I had him pegged for the Rangers pick for months now and he's probably one of my most favorite forwards in the entire draft. Had him ranked 11th (above Schroeder and MPS, who were 12th and 13th respectively). In comparison, I had Kreider ranked 20th because I think he's a tad less bit safe than Josefson (while I think both will be NHLers no matter what, I see Josefson having the ability to hit his 2nd line upside easier than Kreider hitting his top line upside).

Such a great pick in the 1st round (my favorite prospect in the entire draft) at the end of it.

He needs to really up his consistency and compete levels, but he's a young kid and that happens a lot with them. I wouldn't be worried about that unless he has some more bad international tourneys. I gave him a break on the WJC since he had the flu the entire time, but he should be a big part of the team this year.

I'm just curious, what did you envision Hugh Jessiman doing in the NHL?

I guess no one tried the google thing with his name and clicking video? :shakehead

:laugh: I just did. NSFW.

Don't get the Madden comparsion at all. Madden is a defensive player, Josefson is an offensive player. People are sometimes getting confused about this 2-way player thing. I mean Datsyuk and Zetterberg are as 2-way as you can find, that doesn't stop them from being over PPG players.

16 pts in SEL at 18 is a big achievement. On my memory only 2 guys had better results recently(Bobby Nilsson and MPS). And keep in mind than Nilsson was in "Backstrom" situation, i.e. crappy team 1st line minutes. Josefson played on 3rd-4th line most of the time. Now last year Josefson was over PPG in SEL J20 as 17 yo. For comparsion, as 17 y.o. Tedenby, Berglund, L.Eriksson were like 0,5-0,7 at best. Josefson is much ahead of them in development.

:laugh: I just did. NSFW.

Jacob's got more talent than we thought! :sarcasm:

Don't get the Madden comparsion at all. Madden is a defensive player, Josefson is an offensive player. People are sometimes getting confused about this 2-way player thing. I mean Datsyuk and Zetterberg are as 2-way as you can find, that doesn't stop them from being over PPG players.

16 pts in SEL at 18 is a big achievement. On my memory only 2 guys had better results recently(Bobby Nilsson and MPS). And keep in mind than Nilsson was in "Backstrom" situation, i.e. crappy team 1st line minutes. Josefson played on 3rd-4th line most of the time. Now last year Josefson was over PPG in SEL J20 as 17 yo. For comparsion, as 17 y.o. Tedenby, Berglund, L.Eriksson were like 0,5-0,7 at best. Josefson is much ahead of them in development.

Boing.

Don't get the Madden comparsion at all. Madden is a defensive player, Josefson is an offensive player. People are sometimes getting confused about this 2-way player thing. I mean Datsyuk and Zetterberg are as 2-way as you can find, that doesn't stop them from being over PPG players.

16 pts in SEL at 18 is a big achievement. On my memory only 2 guys had better results recently(Bobby Nilsson and MPS). And keep in mind than Nilsson was in "Backstrom" situation, i.e. crappy team 1st line minutes. Josefson played on 3rd-4th line most of the time. Now last year Josefson was over PPG in SEL J20 as 17 yo. For comparsion, as 17 y.o. Tedenby, Berglund, L.Eriksson were like 0,5-0,7 at best. Josefson is much ahead of them in development.

I couldn't stop smiling throughout this post. Josefson made this draft go from terrible to pretty decent for us.

I couldn't stop smiling throughout this post. Josefson made this draft go from terrible to pretty decent for us.

Not you aswell....

Not you aswell....

Actually, I like the draft for us. It's just everytime I think about it I think of that stupid enforcer we drafted. Also I am spoiled from our awesome draft last year.

Actually, I like the draft for us. It's just everytime I think about it I think of that stupid enforcer we drafted. Also I am spoiled from our awesome draft last year.

Don't be too quick to judge.

People were saying similar things last year (on another forum, but yeah), we won't know what we truly have for at least another year.

I remember all the people cursing Lou for not picking up players with flashy upside in the later rounds like Justin Jokinen. Nagy>>>>>>Jokinen.

I'm glad Lou took safe picks who are more likely to make the pro's in some capacity, rather than flashy, likely to bust picks in the later rounds. It gives us more solid trade assets just like what we had in the 90's.

I also really like the Helgeson pick and the Rodwell and Urbom pick are growing on me too. I honestly don't think Cedig (sp?) is going to do anything but be another version of Ryan Molle but hey you never know.

Don't get the Madden comparsion at all. Madden is a defensive player, Josefson is an offensive player. People are sometimes getting confused about this 2-way player thing. I mean Datsyuk and Zetterberg are as 2-way as you can find, that doesn't stop them from being over PPG players.

16 pts in SEL at 18 is a big achievement. On my memory only 2 guys had better results recently(Bobby Nilsson and MPS). And keep in mind than Nilsson was in "Backstrom" situation, i.e. crappy team 1st line minutes. Josefson played on 3rd-4th line most of the time. Now last year Josefson was over PPG in SEL J20 as 17 yo. For comparsion, as 17 y.o. Tedenby, Berglund, L.Eriksson were like 0,5-0,7 at best. Josefson is much ahead of them in development.
Finally, someone knows what the hell they're talking about.

I still don't understand the whole crappy draft thing.

Josefson is Josefson.

Gelinas is a big puck moving d-man.

Ubrom was ranked 21st amongst Euro skaters. He is also a big d-man with some offensive skills.

Helgeson is another big d-man going to Minny next year. Sounds comparable to Corey Fienhage, who I really wanted last year.

Rodwell is going to UND and is described as "hard working", "dedicated", and "sincere". We heard similar things about Halischuk and Nagy in the past.

Bernard is meh, but it's the 6th round so who cares. If he turns into another PL3, we should be good.

Gedig is a big d-man from the BCHL. We also drafted McPherson out of Cowichan Valley, and MoonDragn's psychic senses say he'll be a future Norris winner, so I think this is a good pick.

Sure, not everyone we picked is going to make it to the NHL, but there's enough potential there. So quit yer *****ing.

I don't mind the 6th round enforcer pick. I think that it's better to have a home-grown heavyweight who really appreciates and grows up within the organization, as opposed to signing someone to be a mercenary.

Besides, none of us have seen him play. For all we know he could have half-decent hands, or decent front-of-the-net presence and be an 9-10 goal 4th line player.

I don't understand complaining two days after the draft period.

Our first round pick is what it is - a late pick. Obviously, there is a very limited amount of visible elite talent each year. After the the first round, the picks are all left to the wind. So we draft Player A in the second round. Some people complain because they think we should have drafted Player B. What's the use? Regardless of who it is, we won't see any impact from them or have any idea of their true talent level for a few years.

I still don't understand the whole crappy draft thing.

Josefson is Josefson.

Gelinas is a big puck moving d-man.

Ubrom was ranked 21st amongst Euro skaters. He is also a big d-man with some offensive skills.

Helgeson is another big d-man going to Minny next year. Sounds comparable to Corey Fienhage, who I really wanted last year.

Rodwell is going to UND and is described as "hard working", "dedicated", and "sincere". We heard similar things about Halischuk and Nagy in the past.

Bernard is meh, but it's the 6th round so who cares. If he turns into another PL3, we should be good.

Gedig is a big d-man from the BCHL. We also drafted McPherson out of Cowichan Valley, and MoonDragn's psychic senses say he'll be a future Norris winner, so I think this is a good pick.

Sure, not everyone we picked is going to make it to the NHL, but there's enough potential there. So quit yer *****ing.
Gedig, a future Norris winner? I'm sorry, but MD is being vastly ridiculous.

Gelinas is more reasonable as a potential Norris winner. Helgeson could be as well. Let's not get overwhelmingly positive about the picks. They're good, but most of them are not EARTH shattering.

Gedig, a future Norris winner? I'm sorry, but MD is being vastly ridiculous.

Gelinas is more reasonable as a potential Norris winner. Helgeson could be as well. Let's not get overwhelmingly positive about the picks. They're good, but most of them are not EARTH shattering.

No, MD called McPherson a future Norris winner in the past. When asked what would make him say something so silly, he called it a psychic hunch or something.

I still don't understand the whole crappy draft thing.

I think the problem is that there are players that were available in the lower rounds who were more publicised before the draft. When those players slip, people think their team should grab them. That low, teams are drafting for organisational need, not the best player available. What results is a bunch of "But X was still available! Why didn't they take him?" Even though I am feeling a bit of that, I think this draft was solid. I was very happy we got Josefson, and Gelinas is good too. Urbom I'm not sold on, but I liked the Helgeson pick. Lou and Conte earned my trust in their drafting skills long ago, I think this draft will prove to be a good one.

No, MD called McPherson a future Norris winner in the past. When asked what would make him say something so silly, he called it a psychic hunch or something.
Oh. Lol.

Well, Gedig is a solid pick for what it is, a seventh round pick, but it's safe to assume he won't be a Norris winner. If he makes the NHL, he'll go beyond my expectations.

Is Gedig the kid who was a converted forward to defenceman? Big frame, some offensive skills, 7th round pick. Sounds familiar to a certain Lowell defender...

Is Gedig the kid who was a converted forward to defenceman? Big frame, some offensive skills, 7th round pick. Sounds familiar to a certain Lowell defender...
I don't think so. Gedig is a defensive defenseman... I think it is Gelinas who is a converted forward.

I don't think so. Gedig is a defensive defenseman... I think it is Gelinas who is a converted forward.

yup Gelinas was a forward.

No, MD called McPherson a future Norris winner in the past. When asked what would make him say something so silly, he called it a psychic hunch or something.

didnt we get mcpherson from the ducks for brookbank? he goes to colgate, unlesss that is a different guy im thinking of

didnt we get mcpherson from the ducks for brookbank? he goes to colgate, unlesss that is a different guy im thinking of

I think the guy we got from the Ducks was McIntyre. I could be wrong though.

didnt we get mcpherson from the ducks for brookbank? he goes to colgate, unlesss that is a different guy im thinking of

David McIntyre

didnt we get mcpherson from the ducks for brookbank? he goes to colgate, unlesss that is a different guy im thinking of

I think the guy we got from the Ducks was McIntyre. I could be wrong though.

Yup. We drafted McPherson in the 3rd round in 2007. We got McIntyre from the Ducks. They both go to Colgate.

ahhhh thats it, i forgot we had 2 go to colgate

I still don't understand the whole crappy draft thing.

Josefson is Josefson.

Gelinas is a big puck moving d-man.


Like others I am not too exicted about the players drafted after Josefson and Gelinas, but I hope all those other folks realize that if Josefson and Gelinas reach the potential everyone excepts, even if the other picks are busts this will be considered a successful year drafting.

I still don't understand the whole crappy draft thing.

Josefson is Josefson.

Gelinas is a big puck moving d-man.

Ubrom was ranked 21st amongst Euro skaters. He is also a big d-man with some offensive skills.

Helgeson is another big d-man going to Minny next year. Sounds comparable to Corey Fienhage, who I really wanted last year.

Rodwell is going to UND and is described as "hard working", "dedicated", and "sincere". We heard similar things about Halischuk and Nagy in the past.

Bernard is meh, but it's the 6th round so who cares. If he turns into another PL3, we should be good.

Gedig is a big d-man from the BCHL. We also drafted McPherson out of Cowichan Valley, and MoonDragn's psychic senses say he'll be a future Norris winner, so I think this is a good pick.

Sure, not everyone we picked is going to make it to the NHL, but there's enough potential there. So quit yer *****ing.

Agreed. Given the amount of "hits" it looks like we had in the mid-later rounds last year + Halischuk and Palmieri in '07, none of which I knew a damned thing about when we took them, I'm confident we did just fine this year and won't complain about anything. They're professional talent evaluators and I'm just some guy on a forum.

Frankly, after we took Josefson I would have labelled this draft a success as long as we didn't trade the rest of the picks for Brian Campbell or Briere or some other ****** contract.

Gelinas probably has the biggest upside of any D we hold the rights to now, so that's a win for the organization. He wasn't a name I really had on my radar but I'm very intrigued and can't wait to see if he grows more. I'm guessing he's a few years off but we'll see.

Urbom seems like a solid pick. Lou said our Swedish scout thought very highly of him and he was probably so high on their list that they couldn't pass up on him at 73. 6'3" 205lbs is always good. Darkhorse kind of pick.

Helgeson is huge. Rankings had him a lot higher (not much lower than Gelinas) so he represents a potential steal in round 4. Like the pick a lot.

Rodwell, Bernard, Gedig... who knows. There were still some interesting names left in these later rounds (like Janus) but I'm not angry with any of the picks by any means. The backlash against Bernard is outrageous.

Overall... it's a good draft. Josefson addresses a HUGE organizational need and if he gets top-6 minutes in the SEL this year he'll be ready to step in the second he jumps the pond. I would have liked a right-shooting defenseman at some point, but I like each of the 3 guys we took and where we took them.

It's too early to tell, but I'd bet in a year or two when we have a better idea of what we got with all these guys we'll say we did as well as anyone else picking in the 20s each round.

Wow I want to defecate on every post that says this draft was bad. Get a grip. The scouts actually see and talk to these players, unlike you, the message board populous, who read a two sentence snippet from E.J. McGuire and are suddenly qualified to make declarative statements about the drafts' success.

Wow I want to defecate on every post that says this draft was bad. Get a grip. The scouts actually see and talk to these players, unlike you, the message board populous, who read a two sentence snippet from E.J. McGuire and are suddenly qualified to make declarative statements about the drafts' success.

Exactly. I'm amused by those who say they would have picked someone else over the player we did pick, despite the fact that their knowledge consists of a couple scouting reports and maybe a YouTube clip. You can't fault a team for strange looking picks in later rounds, and if any of our picks from after the second round pan out, Lou and Conte are geniuses. Isn't there a statistic that late round picks have something like a 5% chance of playing in even 1 NHL game?

Isn't there a statistic that late round picks have something like a 5% chance of playing in even 1 NHL game?
That wouldn't surprise me, unless we're talking about Detroit :laugh:. I do think this is going to have to change though, for all teams. I feel like young guns are A LOT more important than they used to be.

Derek Rodwell - As an 18 year old, he didn't put up a PPG. To compare, Matt Halischuk as an 18 year old put up 66 points in 67 games. The difference, Derek is playing Junior friggin A. To make things worse, he is playing in the AJHL, the 3rd worse Junior A league in Canada. To make things worse, we used a 5th round pick on him. I don't care if he is UND commited. Hell he doesn't even play at UND untill 2010/2010, he will be 20 entering his freshman season.

Ashton Bernard - A goon, a goon who got his ass handed to him twice by Brad Gallant. I don't see the point in drafting a goon who isn't even the best in the league. Not even the best in the QMJHL...

Curtis Gedig - At least he is young, but how is he suppost to feel knowing that he was behind Rodwell and Bernard on the Devils draft list. He has good size and is young. Don't worry, he "may" make the calgary hitmen this season. My god.

We might as well gave up our last three picks.

Derek Rodwell - As an 18 year old, he didn't put up a PPG. To compare, Matt Halischuk as an 18 year old put up 66 points in 67 games. The difference, Derek is playing Junior friggin A. To make things worse, he is playing in the AJHL, the 3rd worse Junior A league in Canada. To make things worse, we used a 5th round pick on him. I don't care if he is UND commited. Hell he doesn't even play at UND untill 2010/2010, he will be 20 entering his freshman season.

Ashton Bernard - A goon, a goon who got his ass handed to him twice by Brad Gallant. I don't see the point in drafting a goon who isn't even the best in the league. Not even the best in the QMJHL...

Curtis Gedig - At least he is young, but how is he suppost to feel knowing that he was behind Rodwell and Bernard on the Devils draft list. He has good size and is young. Don't worry, he "may" make the calgary hitmen this season. My god.

We might as well gave up our last three picks.

:laugh:

Yeaaah I'm not too pleased either but what can you do?

Meh, I am not that concerned about the last three picks getting wasted, mostly because I checked the last three picks for every year for us for the last 15 years and out of the 45 players selected only three have reached the NHL and the best of the trio being Willie Mitchell with Clemmer and Aaron Voros being the other two.

Like I said if our top two picks reach their potential we will forget about the last five rounds even if they all bust.

Assuming the two swedes cross the pond for 2010-11, what would our roster look like, I wonder?

Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Tedenby-Josefson-Bergfors
Elias-Cormier-Rolston (expensive ass line with a lot of potential, me thinks.)
Leblond-Henrique-Clarkson
*Halischuk

Martin-Oduya
Gelinas-Corrente
Urbom-White
*Salvador, Eckford

Brodeur
whothe****knows

Err, I for one am very excited about the possibilities.

Assuming the two swedes cross the pond for 2010-11, what would our roster look like, I wonder?

Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Tedenby-Josefson-Bergfors
Elias-Cormier-Rolston (expensive ass line with a lot of potential, me thinks.)
Leblond-Henrique-Clarkson
*Halischuk

Martin-Oduya
Gelinas-Corrente
Urbom-White
*Salvador, Eckford

Brodeur
whothe****knows

Err, I for one am very excited about the possibilities.

I would give Tedenby a year in the minors at least. I also doubt that Urbom or Gelinas play in the 2010-2011 year unless they really impress the coach etc and even that may not be enough.

Derek Rodwell - As an 18 year old, he didn't put up a PPG. To compare, Matt Halischuk as an 18 year old put up 66 points in 67 games. The difference, Derek is playing Junior friggin A. To make things worse, he is playing in the AJHL, the 3rd worse Junior A league in Canada. To make things worse, we used a 5th round pick on him. I don't care if he is UND commited. Hell he doesn't even play at UND untill 2010/2010, he will be 20 entering his freshman season.

Ashton Bernard - A goon, a goon who got his ass handed to him twice by Brad Gallant. I don't see the point in drafting a goon who isn't even the best in the league. Not even the best in the QMJHL...

Curtis Gedig - At least he is young, but how is he suppost to feel knowing that he was behind Rodwell and Bernard on the Devils draft list. He has good size and is young. Don't worry, he "may" make the calgary hitmen this season. My god.

We might as well gave up our last three picks.

We took Nagy in the 5th round last year. He was unranked and scored a grand total of 17 points in 57 games in the OHL. That turned out pretty well.

Edit: Rodwell is going to play at UND next year. So he will be entering as a 19-year old freshman.

We took Nagy in the 5th round last year. He was unranked and scored a grand total of 17 points in 57 games in the OHL. That turned out pretty well.

:rant:But we didn't take (insert name)in the later rounds. Everbody on HFboards was talking about (insert name) before the draft and all mock drafts had him as a late round sleeper. No wonder we always finish in the bottom 5 in HF rankings.









:sarcasm:

:laugh:

Yeaaah I'm not too pleased either but what can you do?

Well, for a start, you can wait until they get out of their teens and then start judging them.:help:

So exited to have a player from my favorite team in sweden to play for my favorite team in the Nhl, by the way. Djurgården has the best hockeyfans in the world!
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No, MD called McPherson a future Norris winner in the past. When asked what would make him say something so silly, he called it a psychic hunch or something.

Hey I never said I was the world's greatest psychic. If I had that kind of talent I'd be running my own psychic hotline or something.

As for McPherson, I dunno if I'm gonna be right or not but last season he was Colgate's #1 defenseman playing upwards of 30 mins a night as a freshman.

Assuming the two swedes cross the pond for 2010-11, what would our roster look like, I wonder?

Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Tedenby-Josefson-Bergfors
Elias-Cormier-Rolston (expensive ass line with a lot of potential, me thinks.)
Leblond-Henrique-Clarkson
*Halischuk

Martin-Oduya
Gelinas-Corrente
Urbom-White
*Salvador, Eckford

Brodeur
whothe****knows

Err, I for one am very excited about the possibilities.

Not a bad line up but I think Tedenby and Josefson will spend a year in the minors. I would also move Halischuk into the line up. Take out Henrique. Urbom and Gelinas wont b ready and there is no way Salvador sits.

2010-2011
Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Elias-Comier-Rolston
Halischuk-Zubrus-Bergfors
Leblond-Pelly-Clarkson
*Zharkov/Vasyunov? (Let me know wat u think about them)

Martin-Oduya
Salvador-Corrente
White-Eckford
*Fraser

Brodeur
?????

Hey I never said I was the world's greatest psychic. If I had that kind of talent I'd be running my own psychic hotline or something.

As for McPherson, I dunno if I'm gonna be right or not but last season he was Colgate's #1 defenseman playing upwards of 30 mins a night as a freshman.

And that means he can definitely play some solid defense, if nothing else, with the ECAC being the type of league that it is.

Finally, someone knows what the hell they're talking about.

Well I have to correct Garl a little bit. ;-)

Josefson scored 16 points in SEL at 17 years of age (18th birthday after the season ended). And thus he scored PPG in the J20 as a 16 y/o.

Not a bad line up but I think Tedenby and Josefson will spend a year in the minors. I would also move Halischuk into the line up. Take out Henrique. Urbom and Gelinas wont b ready and there is no way Salvador sits.

2010-2011
Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Elias-Comier-Rolston
Halischuk-Zubrus-Bergfors
Leblond-Pelly-Clarkson
*Zharkov/Vasyunov? (Let me know wat u think about them)

Martin-Oduya
Salvador-Corrente
White-Eckford
*Fraser

Brodeur
?????

Josefson is more NHL ready then Cormier, so i doubt Josefson plays in the minors much if at all.

That said, a future 3rd line of Zharkov-Cormier-Halischuk would be be awesome.

Look at what Lou's done with our picks these past 2 drafts; he turned last year's 21 and this year's 23 and 84 into:

Mattias Tedenby - who should have went in the 15-20 range in '08 and was regarded as a potential top-10 pick by some publications (12th in Red Line). Of all the forwards taken these past 2 years his offensive upside is probably the highest outside of Stamkos, Filatov, Tavares, Duchene, and Paajarvi-Svensson, all top-10 picks.
Patrice Cormier - a borderline 1st-rounder in '08 who dropped due to injury but reaffirmed himself as such with his strong play this year. Were he to have been in the '09 draft shouldn't have gone any lower than his teammate Jordan Caron (25th to Boston). A steal at 54 in '08.
Jacob Josefson - should have went in the 10-15 range in this draft and a probable top-10 in lesser drafts or if he were North American. Not just a steal at 20 but someone who fills an organizational hole in a big way.
Alexander Urbom - time will tell but it sounds like he's a sound, physical defender with size, mobility, and untapped offensive potential. Potential steal at 73.

Compare that to:

Anton Gustafsson, Tim Erixon, and Nicolas Deslauriers if we make no trades.
Tyler Cuma, Cormier, Erixon, and Deslauriers if just the WSH trade.
Tedenby, Cormier, Erixon, Urbom, and Deslauriers if the two '08 trades.
Gustaffson and Josefson if just the CGY trade.
Or Cuma, Cormier, and Josefson without the MINN trade.

I love this pick too, but you can't help but wonder what we passed up in J. Schroeder. He's a center also and a lot of comparisons to St. Louis. I know he is small but so was Parise.

But Lou and gang must have thought Josefson was better or he wouldn't have picked him. So in Lou we trust.

Look at what Lou's done with our picks these past 2 drafts; he turned last year's 21 and this year's 23 and 84 into:

Mattias Tedenby - who should have went in the 15-20 range in '08 and was regarded as a potential top-10 pick by some publications (12th in Red Line). Of all the forwards taken these past 2 years his offensive upside is probably the highest outside of Stamkos, Filatov, Tavares, Duchene, and Paajarvi-Svensson, all top-10 picks.
Patrice Cormier - a borderline 1st-rounder in '08 who dropped due to injury but reaffirmed himself as such with his strong play this year. Were he to have been in the '09 draft shouldn't have gone any lower than his teammate Jordan Caron (25th to Boston). A steal at 54 in '08.
Jacob Josefson - should have went in the 10-15 range in this draft and a probable top-10 in lesser drafts or if he were North American. Not just a steal at 20 but someone who fills an organizational hole in a big way.
Alexander Urbom - time will tell but it sounds like he's a sound, physical defender with size, mobility, and untapped offensive potential. Potential steal at 73.

Compare that to:

Anton Gustafsson, Tim Erixon, and Nicolas Deslauriers if we make no trades.
Tyler Cuma, Cormier, Erixon, and Deslauriers if just the WSH trade.
Tedenby, Cormier, Erixon, Urbom, and Deslauriers if the two '08 trades.
Gustaffson and Josefson if just the CGY trade.
Or Cuma, Cormier, and Josefson without the MINN trade.

there's a lot of assumptions here. One who to say we draft the guys you have listed and two who is to say our guys even pan out or are better then guys taken after them. Only time will tell with all of them.

I love this pick too, but you can't help but wonder what we passed up in J. Schroeder. He's a center also and a lot of comparisons to St. Louis. I know he is small but so was Parise.

But Lou and gang must have thought Josefson was better or he wouldn't have picked him. So in Lou we trust.

Schroeder is a winger. I personally think he will be a much better offensive player then JJ. I wanted him too but as others have said we lack size up front. If Taydenboo pans out with his size to go along with Parise and then say Schroeder we would be way to small up front. They would get pushed around. JJ was the "safer" pick for us.

Schroeder is a winger. I personally think he will be a much better offensive player then JJ. I wanted him too but as others have said we lack size up front. If Taydenboo pans out with his size to go along with Parise and then say Schroeder we would be way to small up front. They would get pushed around. JJ was the "safer" pick for us.

Just going by what other people have said:

He's played center with Ryan Stoa and Jay Barriball. Minnesota uses a bunch of PK tandems but I'd say he is the 1st or 2nd PK center (Carman would be the other). He plays the point on the PP. I think he played as a wing with Colin Wilson and JVR at the 08 WJC's. It might be tough defensively in the NHL with his size, but I don't think it's impossible that he'd play center. With his hockey sense I think he could play either position well.

He is listed by Minnesota as 5-9 180. If it's inaccurate, it's probably not by much. He isn't a Gerbe/Gionta, and he's pretty solidly built already.

He's 5'8 175-180 and plays center. 85% at the face off dot.

I love this pick too, but you can't help but wonder what we passed up in J. Schroeder. He's a center also and a lot of comparisons to St. Louis. I know he is small but so was Parise.

But Lou and gang must have thought Josefson was better or he wouldn't have picked him. So in Lou we trust.

Schroeder falling the way he did can't be just because of his size. GMs aren't blind to the fact that there are Parise, St. Louis, and Kane and others in the league doing just fine despite their small stature, and he showed he was strong at the combine too so it shouldn't even be that much of a concern. He had to have bombed his interviews, which seems pretty believable because when you see and hear him interviewed on TV before and after the draft he just didn't seem genuine. For the Wild to trade down and then still not take him says a lot. Leddy may be good but he definitely doesn't have the kind of potential Schroeder does. I'm glad we didn't take him and I'd have selected Moore first if we didn't want Josefson.

Yeah, I trust Lou and Conte's judgement, if he passed on Schroeder there must have been something wrong. But then again, they passed on good players in the past. We'll have to wait and see.

In that one interview, Conte listed both Schroeder and Josefson as people who could potentially challenge Hedman and Tavares for the top-2 (along with Duchene). That was in December-ish. I think it's very plausible that both Schroeder and Josefson were on the Devils list - but they didn't hesitate to take Josefson over Schroeder when it came time to make the pick.

That says something.

Schroeder falling the way he did can't be just because of his size. GMs aren't blind to the fact that there are Parise, St. Louis, and Kane and others in the league doing just fine despite their small stature, and he showed he was strong at the combine too so it shouldn't even be that much of a concern. He had to have bombed his interviews, which seems pretty believable because when you see and hear him interviewed on TV before and after the draft he just didn't seem genuine. For the Wild to trade down and then still not take him says a lot. Leddy may be good but he definitely doesn't have the kind of potential Schroeder does. I'm glad we didn't take him and I'd have selected Moore first if we didn't want Josefson.

Possibly. I mean, Parise fell. Did he have attitude problems?

I think Schroeder was probably the #2 guy on a lot of team's lists, and that's why he fell so far. And a lot of people are still wary of drafting smaller players, believe it or not.

Schroeder falling the way he did can't be just because of his size. GMs aren't blind to the fact that there are Parise, St. Louis, and Kane and others in the league doing just fine despite their small stature, and he showed he was strong at the combine too so it shouldn't even be that much of a concern. He had to have bombed his interviews, which seems pretty believable because when you see and hear him interviewed on TV before and after the draft he just didn't seem genuine. For the Wild to trade down and then still not take him says a lot. Leddy may be good but he definitely doesn't have the kind of potential Schroeder does. I'm glad we didn't take him and I'd have selected Moore first if we didn't want Josefson.

yet those players continually fall. You brought it up in you last post with Tedenby. The kid dropped for one reason and that was his size. GM's will never get over the size issue.

In that one interview, Conte listed both Schroeder and Josefson as people who could potentially challenge Hedman and Tavares for the top-2 (along with Duchene). That was in December-ish. I think it's very plausible that both Schroeder and Josefson were on the Devils list - but they didn't hesitate to take Josefson over Schroeder when it came time to make the pick.

That says something.

Yeah he's bigger and plays a better all around game and he's a center. three things we were looking for in a player.

Yeah he's bigger and plays a better all around game and he's a center. three things we were looking for in a player.
As much as there are times that I wish we'd draft for need, everyone knows we always take the guy we see as the best player available.

As much as there are times that I wish we'd draft for need, everyone knows we always take the guy we see as the best player available.

It's the safest route.

As much as there are times that I wish we'd draft for need, everyone knows we always take the guy we see as the best player available.

really this looked like a "need" draft to me. Also BPA for each team is typically based around what a team needs. Schroeder and JJ for example. Most have around the same level on their draft boards. Why did we like him more then Schroeder, most likely because of his size and and defensive game.

As much as there are times that I wish we'd draft for need, everyone knows we always take the guy we see as the best player available.

No team wants a dearth of prospect talent at a given position, however I really don't see how you can draft for need. The average prospect probably takes 3-4 years to contribute in any meaningful way, and by then your organizational depth can look way different. It's just too hard to forecast what team needs will be that far down the line.

As for McPherson, I dunno if I'm gonna be right or not but last season he was Colgate's #1 defenseman playing upwards of 30 mins a night as a freshman.
And that means he can definitely play some solid defense, if nothing else, with the ECAC being the type of league that it is.

I'm with you on the McPherson hunch. I am rooting for this kid to make it, and make it well out of any prospect in our system. He actually responded to me after I said happy birthday to him on facebook, and I don't even do that to my own friends. We actually had an actual conversation about hockey in general and where he plans on being in a couple of years. It was so interesting and he is a good kid. I hope he makes it one day, even if it isn't for us.


Well I have to correct Garl a little bit. ;-)

Josefson scored 16 points in SEL at 17 years of age (18th birthday after the season ended). And thus he scored PPG in the J20 as a 16 y/o.

:amazed: Wow, even better that I heard this. How does Sweden junior compare to a league like the CHL or USHL?

Yeah, I trust Lou and Conte's judgement, if he passed on Schroeder there must have been something wrong. But then again, they passed on good players in the past. We'll have to wait and see.
I read on some other boards that Schroeder is a bit over confident and cocky, heard from another poster that he went to high school with him and Jordan was kind of a tool to everyone. I don't take much consideration from either source, but you really never know.
In that one interview, Conte listed both Schroeder and Josefson as people who could potentially challenge Hedman and Tavares for the top-2 (along with Duchene). That was in December-ish. I think it's very plausible that both Schroeder and Josefson were on the Devils list - but they didn't hesitate to take Josefson over Schroeder when it came time to make the pick.

That says something.
This is why I am confident with the pick. Conte and Lou literally took 15 seconds to decide who they wanted after the trade was announced. They went to the podium so fast, almost as fast as they went for Parise.
As much as there are times that I wish we'd draft for need, everyone knows we always take the guy we see as the best player available.

And it just so happened that the BPA at our draft position wass an organizational need.

Schroeder dropped all the way to the 22th pick cause he say he'd choose Sean Avery over Obama and other "celebs" to go to dinner with at the combine :sarcasm:

Going Swedish with 3 guys these past 2 drafts may be a somewhat calculated move by Lou and co. After producing very little NHL-caliber talent in the '90s Sweden revamped their development programs, with last year's draft being the first to yield kids who received the full benefits of that change and this year obviously the 2nd. There won't be 7 first-rounders every year from now on, but the average will probably be about 3 to 4 from now on as opposed to the 1 or 2 it was before.

Yada yada yada.... 6 years from now when Hedman wants to Bouwmeester his way out of that black hole in Tampa he'll think "hmm, maybe I want to play with my friends on the Devils. I think I'll sign a 10-year deal with them." Or OEL, or MPS, or Rundblad, or Karlsson, etc.

Obviously I don't mean we took Josefson, Tedenby, and Urbom with the idea of getting Hedman a half-decade later - that would be crazy - but if having these guys in Newark makes us a more popular destination with the burgeoning population of Swedes in the NHL it's nothing but a good thing.

And add to that the fact that the KHL's master plan includes cutting into Sweden, so there may come a time when some of the top talents there will opt to stay in Europe if the NHL team that drafts them isn't somewhere they want to go.

Schroeder dropped all the way to the 22th pick cause he say he'd choose Sean Avery over Obama and other "celebs" to go to dinner with at the combine :sarcasm:

I don't know how much teams take this into account, but I heard that Schroeder scored very low on intelligence tests at the combine. I'm guessing that this, as well as his size and attitude, caused many teams to take a pass on him.

I think Josefson has the right attitude for a prospect trying to make the NHL, he's willing to do anything to make it, and has already identified and started working on the flaws in his game. I like that a lot.

Did anybody watch the interviews of Schroeder and one of the panthers pick (I forget his name...) on the 2nd day coverage?

He came across as a preppy dbag. I'm glad we didn't pick him.

Did anybody watch the interviews of Schroeder and one of the panthers pick (I forget his name...) on the 2nd day coverage?

He came across as a preppy dbag. I'm glad we didn't pick him.

D-bag move of the draft was the cocky-ass wink thrown to the camera after the 10 minutes of hugging by Tavaginas on the way [finally] to the stage.

I hope he gets laid out by Pronger in his first game and looks up to get the same doosh wink back down at him.

Well, for a start, you can wait until they get out of their teens and then start judging them.:help:

Oh, for the love of God, spare me. Point out to me once where I said they wouldn't be NHLer's or that I don't trust Lou in the draft. There were players available that I wanted (Henrion, Haula, etc) that we could have taken that we didn't. That's why I'm disappointed. The only pick I don't like is Bernard because we just commited to PLL with a contract.

So please, don't try to preach to me like I'm some moron that doesn't know what he's talking about. I can have my opinions and you can have yours.

So please, don't try to preach to me like I'm some moron that doesn't know what he's talking about. I can have my opinions and you can have yours.

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Going Swedish with 3 guys these past 2 drafts may be a somewhat calculated move by Lou and co. After producing very little NHL-caliber talent in the '90s Sweden revamped their development programs, with last year's draft being the first to yield kids who received the full benefits of that change and this year obviously the 2nd. There won't be 7 first-rounders every year from now on, but the average will probably be about 3 to 4 from now on as opposed to the 1 or 2 it was before.

Yada yada yada.... 6 years from now when Hedman wants to Bouwmeester his way out of that black hole in Tampa he'll think "hmm, maybe I want to play with my friends on the Devils. I think I'll sign a 10-year deal with them." Or OEL, or MPS, or Rundblad, or Karlsson, etc.

Obviously I don't mean we took Josefson, Tedenby, and Urbom with the idea of getting Hedman a half-decade later - that would be crazy - but if having these guys in Newark makes us a more popular destination with the burgeoning population of Swedes in the NHL it's nothing but a good thing.

And add to that the fact that the KHL's master plan includes cutting into Sweden, so there may come a time when some of the top talents there will opt to stay in Europe if the NHL team that drafts them isn't somewhere they want to go.

Don't forget we have Tommy Albelin. He's most 100% definitely a hero to most hockey players and fans in Sweden.

Going Swedish with 3 guys these past 2 drafts may be a somewhat calculated move by Lou and co. After producing very little NHL-caliber talent in the '90s Sweden revamped their development programs, with last year's draft being the first to yield kids who received the full benefits of that change and this year obviously the 2nd. There won't be 7 first-rounders every year from now on, but the average will probably be about 3 to 4 from now on as opposed to the 1 or 2 it was before.

Yada yada yada.... 6 years from now when Hedman wants to Bouwmeester his way out of that black hole in Tampa he'll think "hmm, maybe I want to play with my friends on the Devils. I think I'll sign a 10-year deal with them." Or OEL, or MPS, or Rundblad, or Karlsson, etc.

Obviously I don't mean we took Josefson, Tedenby, and Urbom with the idea of getting Hedman a half-decade later - that would be crazy - but if having these guys in Newark makes us a more popular destination with the burgeoning population of Swedes in the NHL it's nothing but a good thing.

And add to that the fact that the KHL's master plan includes cutting into Sweden, so there may come a time when some of the top talents there will opt to stay in Europe if the NHL team that drafts them isn't somewhere they want to go.

i can see the logic in all of this, but i just cant tease myself with such notions at this time. still, if lou has some sortve 5-7 year cold and calculated plan in that huge melon of his, then ill get back on the in lou we trust kool aid wagon. until then, ill just hope that tedenby, bergfors and josefson play for the devs like the swedes the wings have play for them.

D-bag move of the draft was the cocky-ass wink thrown to the camera after the 10 minutes of hugging by Tavaginas on the way [finally] to the stage.

I hope he gets laid out by Pronger in his first game and looks up to get the same doosh wink back down at him.

You're pissed about an 18-year old kid winking at the camera on the biggest day of his life? Seriously?

You're pissed about an 18-year old kid winking at the camera on the biggest day of his life? Seriously?

Did you see it? Did you see the 10 minutes leading up to it? Even the people he was hugging/shaking hands with were finally like "ummm ok... "

It was a pure ego move - not a product of being happy or "in the moment".

Not the kind of move I would have wanted if I were the GM or even his parents.

Did you see it? Did you see the 10 minutes leading up to it? Even the people he was hugging/shaking hands with were finally like "ummm ok... "

It was a pure ego move - not a product of being happy or "in the moment".

Not the kind of move I would have wanted if I were the GM or even his parents.

The kid was happy and wanted to hug his friends and family. Who cares? It's not necessary to micro-analyze every single move these players make. He winked at the camera. It might have been a product of his ego, it might not have been, it doesn't really reveal anything about him as a hockey player or teammate either way. As long as he competes hard on the ice and doesn't alienate his teammates he's fine with me.