GDT: Devils-Habs (Friday, March 19th)

ratsgirl
03-19-2004, 08:22 PM
I think Colin White brings bad luck! :mad:

Habs are up 1-0 after the first, and shots are 15-8 in their favor.

Ronnie Bass
03-19-2004, 08:26 PM
I think Colin White brings bad luck! :mad:

Habs are up 1-0 after the first, and shots are 15-8 in their favor.
I didn't want to say anything but it seemed the d-corp played better without him. Was he on the ice for the goal?

electric
03-19-2004, 08:26 PM
Hey, I'm a Habs fan... sorry for barging in on your board...

I think it's been a good game so far... a lot of end to end action. Habs got lucky that goal was dissalowed... as far as I know it looked like Elias made a downwards motion before contact... but I don't know, it was pretty borderline.

ratsgirl
03-19-2004, 08:28 PM
I didn't want to say anything but it seemed the d-corp played better without him. Was he on the ice for the goal?
yes! it was white & giroux.

Ronnie Bass
03-19-2004, 08:30 PM
Hey, I'm a Habs fan... sorry for barging in on your board...

I think it's been a good game so far... a lot of end to end action. Habs got lucky that goal was dissalowed... as far as I know it looked like Elias made a downwards motion before contact... but I don't know, it was pretty borderline.
Did the on the ice officials give him the goal? Because if they did and they overturned it that's kinda strange.

L3DZ3P
03-19-2004, 08:31 PM
Hey, I'm a Habs fan... sorry for barging in on your board...

I think it's been a good game so far... a lot of end to end action. Habs got lucky that goal was dissalowed... as far as I know it looked like Elias made a downwards motion before contact... but I don't know, it was pretty borderline.
Actually it was obvious that he touch the puck over the crossbar .Unless he is mini-me its no goal.

Ronnie Bass
03-19-2004, 08:32 PM
yes! it was white & giroux.
Figures. :shakehead

ratsgirl
03-19-2004, 08:33 PM
1-1

Pando scores, looks like the team finally woke up.

borrachon
03-19-2004, 08:33 PM
Good start to this period....Pando ties it up after what I'm sure was a colorful speech from Burns.

DevilFisch
03-19-2004, 08:34 PM
The Goal Scoring Machine scores! 13th of the year!

1-1!

Ronnie Bass
03-19-2004, 08:42 PM
Why is White on the fricken' PP???

DevilFisch
03-19-2004, 09:00 PM
Did I mishear John Hennesey or is Alex Kovalev playing? I thought he was injured?

UPDATE: Stevenson stopped on a breakaway

L3DZ3P
03-19-2004, 09:03 PM
Did I mishear John Hennesey or is Alex Kovalev playing? I thought he was injured?

UPDATE: Stevenson stopped on a breakaway
He is playing tonight,he is back since a week now.

Ronnie Bass
03-19-2004, 09:03 PM
Did I mishear John Hennesey or is Alex Kovalev playing? I thought he was injured?

UPDATE: Stevenson stopped on a breakaway
Yup he's playing, Habs fans on their GDT thread were tearing him apart too.

DevilFisch
03-19-2004, 09:13 PM
Hmmm...interesting. I haven't heard much of him all game until..uh..now.

OK, 1-1 after 2 periods. Will either team come away with it?

borrachon
03-19-2004, 09:34 PM
SHOOT IT MADDEN! I know Pandolfo is a goal-scoring machine, but come ON.

DevilFisch
03-19-2004, 09:42 PM
SHOOT IT MADDEN! I know Pandolfo is a goal-scoring machine, but come ON.

A goal scoring machine? He's THE Goal Scoring Machine. ;)

ratsgirl
03-19-2004, 09:52 PM
c'mon guys, win it for Marty.

DevilFisch
03-19-2004, 09:59 PM
Neidermayer is an OT machine. He nearly scored twice.

Key word being nearly.

Devils tie 1-1.

Tomorrow should be funner. If only so I can SEE this game on TV.

ratsgirl
03-19-2004, 10:01 PM
I can't wait for tomorrow---that OT was intense. good stuff.

Ronnie Bass
03-19-2004, 10:02 PM
John Hennesy, the radio guy for the Devils is a *****, I'm listening to it on radio and the way he was shouting I thought for sure Neider scored.......god damn *****.


Anybody else hear his call?

borrachon
03-19-2004, 10:18 PM
John Hennesy, the radio guy for the Devils is a *****, I'm listening to it on radio and the way he was shouting I thought for sure Neider scored.......god damn *****.


Anybody else hear his call?


Haha, yeah that's why I don't listen to internet radio very often, he always gets my hopes up on every NJ chance.

DownFromNJ
03-19-2004, 10:21 PM
Dude that was one intense game. Can't wait for tomorrow.

Nikkowar
03-20-2004, 12:29 AM
How did Eli,Friesen and Langs do?

Blackjack
03-20-2004, 12:35 AM
I was at the game. No way was Elias' goal a high stick. No friggen way. I hope we don't meed the Habs in the playoffs - it's tough enough to beat another hockey team, but another team and 4 zebras? No thanks. 2nd game in a row against the Habs that the zebras robbed us. Let someone else deal with them.

Ronnie Bass
03-20-2004, 12:48 AM
I was at the game. No way was Elias' goal a high stick. No friggen way. I hope we don't meed the Habs in the playoffs - it's tough enough to beat another hockey team, but another team and 4 zebras? No thanks. 2nd game in a row against the Habs that the zebras robbed us. Let someone else deal with them.
I'm curiuos about that one too, I hear that they don't always make the final descions at the arena, that they can go back to Toronto (er Canada) to make the judgement. Not suggesting anything but for years I have always heard people complain how it seemed that the Habs would get favorable calls thier way espicially on home ice, perhaps that has shifted to the video booth? :dunno:

Estimated_Prophet
03-20-2004, 12:56 AM
I was at the game. No way was Elias' goal a high stick. No friggen way. I hope we don't meed the Habs in the playoffs - it's tough enough to beat another hockey team, but another team and 4 zebras? No thanks. 2nd game in a row against the Habs that the zebras robbed us. Let someone else deal with them.

Elias's stick was slightly above his shoulders when he made contact with the puck and his shoulders are taller than the crossbar. This was actually a no-brainer that the officials made the correct call on!

Blackjack
03-20-2004, 01:03 AM
If his stick was higher than his shoulders they wouldn't even have gone upstairs. It would have too obvious. The blade of his stick was well below his shoulders and the crossbar when he deflected it. Even the Habs fans on their board were saying that they got lucky and got away with one. Go to page 4 of their GDT if you don't believe me.

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=63340&page=4&pp=15

I was there, sitting behind Garon. We got robbed. It doesn't matter now though; as long as it doesn't happen during the playoffs...

devildan
03-20-2004, 01:05 AM
If his stick was higher than his shoulders they wouldn't even have gone upstairs. It would have too obvious. The blade of his stick was well below his shoulders and the crossbar when he deflected it. Even the Habs fans on their board were saying that they got lucky and got away with one. Go to page 4 of their GDT if you don't believe me.

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=63340&page=4&pp=15

I was there, sitting behind Garon. We got robbed. It doesn't matter now though; as long as it doesn't happen during the playoffs...

No man. Replays showed it to be pretty high - especially the second view. As the previous poster said, it was a little above his shoulder, which was a little above the crossbar. Elias knew it was the right call too - he didnt complain at all.

Ronnie Bass
03-20-2004, 01:06 AM
Elias's stick was slightly above his shoulders when he made contact with the puck and his shoulders are taller than the crossbar. This was actually a no-brainer that the officials made the correct call on!
I didn't see the game, could only listen to it on radio but the announcers seem confident that it was too close to call. That is probably the hardest thing to overturn, the goal on a highstick, so I would have to see it myself. If it was to close to call, then it sounds like Elias and the Devils did indeed get shortchanged.

PS- I only caught the broadcast as they were reviewing it and asked in this thread if the on ice officials called it a goal. Did they, or did they rule no goal and they went upstairs for a look?

Blackjack
03-20-2004, 01:07 AM
John Hennesy, the radio guy for the Devils is a *****, I'm listening to it on radio and the way he was shouting I thought for sure Neider scored.......god damn *****.


Anybody else hear his call?

Don't blame Henessy on this one. I almost never get faked into thinking a goal was scored when I'm at the game, but I jumped out of my seat twice in OT, SURE that the game was over. I don't know how to explain it, but it's like the puck was literally going into the goal, I jumped up, and then the red light never came on. Never seen anything like it in my life, let alone twice. I've never been so bitterly dissapointed after a tie.

Blackjack
03-20-2004, 01:08 AM
PS- I only caught the broadcast as they were reviewing it and asked in this thread if the on ice officials called it a goal. Did they, or did they rule no goal and they went upstairs for a look?

The initial call was the correct call. Goal. Red lights, zebras pointing, the whole 9 yards. But as soon as they scored it I knew those jackasses were going to review it.

devildan
03-20-2004, 01:11 AM
The initial call was the correct call. Goal. Red lights, zebras pointing, the whole 9 yards. But as soon as they scored it I knew those jackasses were going to review it.

No man. We had the benefit of multiple camera angles, including the view of Elias face. His expression said it all - no goal.

Estimated_Prophet
03-20-2004, 02:32 AM
If his stick was higher than his shoulders they wouldn't even have gone upstairs. It would have too obvious. The blade of his stick was well below his shoulders and the crossbar when he deflected it. Even the Habs fans on their board were saying that they got lucky and got away with one. Go to page 4 of their GDT if you don't believe me.

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=63340&page=4&pp=15

I was there, sitting behind Garon. We got robbed. It doesn't matter now though; as long as it doesn't happen during the playoffs...

You are delusional! Nowhere in MTL GDT does any Hab poster say that they got away with one or got lucky.

Nothing worse than debating calls with a poster who fabricates his own "facts".

If I didn't know any better I'd say you are a whiny closet Leaf fan as most Devil fans I have met are usually pretty unbiased.

John Flyers Fan
03-20-2004, 08:55 AM
I was at the game. No way was Elias' goal a high stick. No friggen way. I hope we don't meed the Habs in the playoffs - it's tough enough to beat another hockey team, but another team and 4 zebras? No thanks. 2nd game in a row against the Habs that the zebras robbed us. Let someone else deal with them.

You got a few gifts in the third period from those zebras.

Brylin's stick clearly cut Ribeiro, and instead of a Habs 4 minute PP, they got nothing.

Also on the 2-on-0 Rivet made up for his pinch by coming back and doing a great job on Pandolfo, tying up his stick. That was a perfect defensive play, and they gave the Devils a PP.

Ronnie Bass
03-20-2004, 10:09 AM
Also on the 2-on-0 Rivet made up for his pinch by coming back and doing a great job on Pandolfo, tying up his stick. That was a perfect defensive play, and they gave the Devils a PP.
Even the Devils radio guys thought that was a bad call.

Munchausen
03-20-2004, 12:03 PM
You got a few gifts in the third period from those zebras.

Brylin's stick clearly cut Ribeiro, and instead of a Habs 4 minute PP, they got nothing.

Also on the 2-on-0 Rivet made up for his pinch by coming back and doing a great job on Pandolfo, tying up his stick. That was a perfect defensive play, and they gave the Devils a PP.

I agree. This bad non-call followed by that bad call were 6 minutes for Montreal they should have been either in PP or 5-on-5. That's 6 minutes in a lone period. So I don't think the refs had anything to do with the Devils not being able to win it. Christ if Niedermayer had directed the puck towards the net when he beat Garon in OT instead of under his left pad it would have been over right there. Dito for the post. They had their chances, couldn't capitalize. But I'll say the Devils deserved the win nonetheless IMO as even if they were dominated most of the 1st, they had the advantage in the following 2 periods. It's just that the tie resulted from their lack of opportunism in that game.

PEli*
03-20-2004, 01:18 PM
Brylin's stick clearly cut Ribeiro, and instead of a Habs 4 minute PP, they got nothing.

That was unfortunate, for sure. The TSN guys showed a nice replay of it and Brylin was hooked and when he was pulled around, Ribeiro skated right into the stick. It wasn't a case of careless stick use. It was a case of bad luck.

Jamie Thomas
03-20-2004, 02:51 PM
That was unfortunate, for sure. The TSN guys showed a nice replay of it and Brylin was hooked and when he was pulled around, Ribeiro skated right into the stick. It wasn't a case of careless stick use. It was a case of bad luck.

Since when we don't call a high sitck to a player because of bad luck? Nobody said the stick to the face was intentional, but it was clearly a 4 minutes penalty. And after that, the call on Rivet that shoud never have been a penalty....yea that Blackjack guy is right, the ref clearly stole the game.... :shakehead

PEli*
03-20-2004, 02:58 PM
Since when we don't call a high sitck to a player because of bad luck? Nobody said the stick to the face was intentional, but it was clearly a 4 minutes penalty. And after that, the call on Rivet that shoud never have been a penalty....yea that Blackjack guy is right, the ref clearly stole the game.... :shakehead

I was just reiterating what McGuire and Miller were saying last night. Brylin didn't intend to hit the guy and he's not a dirty player. Sometimes calls don't get made when they should. That's a part of hockey, I guess. The same sort of stuff happened the last time these two teams met up.

Blackjack
03-20-2004, 08:01 PM
Since I was there, and didn't see the game on TV, I didn't have the benefit of instant replay or closeup shots, but when Ribeiro got up it didn't look like he was bleeding at all. There was no blood on the ice, no blood on his face, and no blood on the rag that the trainer brought out. In the paper more than a few Devils were implying that Ribiero was trying to buy a call. You say it should've been a penalty? Fine, like I said, we didn't have the benefit of replays, so maybe it should've been a 2:00 minor. That's not the same as having a goal taken away.

Jamie Thomas
03-20-2004, 09:40 PM
Since I was there, and didn't see the game on TV, I didn't have the benefit of instant replay or closeup shots, but when Ribeiro got up it didn't look like he was bleeding at all. There was no blood on the ice, no blood on his face, and no blood on the rag that the trainer brought out. In the paper more than a few Devils were implying that Ribiero was trying to buy a call. You say it should've been a penalty? Fine, like I said, we didn't have the benefit of replays, so maybe it should've been a 2:00 minor. That's not the same as having a goal taken away.

Well I saw the replay many times and Brylin clearly had a high stick on Ribeiro. No doubt, it was an accident, but that was a penalty. And there was blood on the towel that the trained brought. The cut was not huge, but you could see that he had been cut. Anyway, this game is over, but you can't say that the ref stole you the game. And you have your opinion on the goal that was disallowed, I have mine, I saw the replay, and they went upstairs to be sure. Elias touched the puck a little over his shoulders, the goal was no good, then the refs didn't take a goal away from the devils. You really should stop whining.