Brodeur Seeks 400th Career Win

Marty Brodeur goes in to the Montreal home-and-home series in need of one victory to become the eighth goalie to reach the milestone.

The Stat-Ledger (http://www.nj.com/devils/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1079682956291630.xml) has more.

A great milestone for a truely deserved goalie and the best goalie of the past 10 years.

I still remember Broduer's draft year. The Devils traded down in the draft, and still ended up picking Broduer in the 20th spot (great move..can't remember what they got in trade for dropping down in the draft mind you). I remember the Devil's brass saying they believed Broduer could become a better goalie than Trevor Kidd, who was select 11th by Calgary.

Hard to say if they were right??? :joker:

If he hits 400 this weekend... does he establish a new record for "youngest to reach 400 wins" and/or "fewest games played to hit 400 wins"? Or did one of those seven others get his 400th in fewer games, or at a lower age, than Martin's currently at?

If he hits 400 this weekend... does he establish a new record for "youngest to reach 400 wins" and/or "fewest games played to hit 400 wins"?
I think both:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=76993

Brodeur, who has a career record of 399-214-104, would be the first to win 400 with one team. Patrick Roy (http://www.tsn.ca/NHL/player_bio.asp?player_id=197) did it in the fewest games (753) and, at 33, was also the youngest. Brodeur, 31, will play in his 733rd regular-season contest tonight.

And to think he's just entering his prime. Jeez... we're set for years and years at goalie. :)

I know this is a touchy subject, but something that has been debated amongst non-Devils fans for some time now.


Do you think there will always be some kind blemish next to Brodeur's achievements because of the team he had playing in front of him? Or, rather, do you see fans never really giving him full credit?

Before I get hosed, let me give my opinion. While I think Brodeur has benefitted from playing for the Devils, he's by no means a Mike Dunham without them. He's a great goaltender who was put into a situation that really allowed him to be successful. He deserves the records he's earned because I don't think any team could inflate a player's stats to such a degree. Well, at least not for goaltenders. Maybe, MAYBE, the Devils get him to the plateaus a tad faster, but he'd have gotten there regardless.


Honestly interested in Devils fans reaction.

Well I don't think that Brodeur has achieved all that he has because of the team he plays behind. Granted the Devils stress defense but he is still one of the best goalies in the world.

Any goalie who plays for a good team has their stats helped by that team, the same can be said for most other players at different positions that play for good teams....thats what playing for a good team does.

I know this is a touchy subject, but something that has been debated amongst non-Devils fans for some time now.


Do you think there will always be some kind blemish next to Brodeur's achievements because of the team he had playing in front of him? Or, rather, do you see fans never really giving him full credit?

Before I get hosed, let me give my opinion. While I think Brodeur has benefitted from playing for the Devils, he's by no means a Mike Dunham without them. He's a great goaltender who was put into a situation that really allowed him to be successful. He deserves the records he's earned because I don't think any team could inflate a player's stats to such a degree. Well, at least not for goaltenders. Maybe, MAYBE, the Devils get him to the plateaus a tad faster, but he'd have gotten there regardless.


Honestly interested in Devils fans reaction.

Watch game 6 of the 2000 SCF vs. Dallas and you tell me if he's overrated

I know this is a touchy subject, but something that has been debated amongst non-Devils fans for some time now.


Do you think there will always be some kind blemish next to Brodeur's achievements because of the team he had playing in front of him? Or, rather, do you see fans never really giving him full credit?

Before I get hosed, let me give my opinion. While I think Brodeur has benefitted from playing for the Devils, he's by no means a Mike Dunham without them. He's a great goaltender who was put into a situation that really allowed him to be successful. He deserves the records he's earned because I don't think any team could inflate a player's stats to such a degree. Well, at least not for goaltenders. Maybe, MAYBE, the Devils get him to the plateaus a tad faster, but he'd have gotten there regardless.


Honestly interested in Devils fans reaction.


I do believe to a certain degree that playing with the team in front of him has helped him out. However, although the Devils have consistantly been a defensive machine during his tenior, they haven't been known for being a consistantly offensive one. In order for Brodeur to get 400 wins, he would have to make sure that he stops more goals than the opposing netminder. Let's also take into consideration that Brodeur came into the league in the right place at the right time. Who knows what numbers he would have put up on a losing team. Marty has never had a sub .500 record season. Imagine what numbers Luongo would have if he played for winning teams his whole career. Then again, if the Devils drafted Trevor Kidd instead, I don't think we would be seeing Kidd going for his 400th win. Kidd has trouble winning in Toronto. In conclusion I think Brodeur's success is a combination of both solid goaltending and having a talented roster playing in front of him. The Devils play a team game and I'm sure Marty believes his wins are shared with those he plays/has played with.

I know this is a touchy subject, but something that has been debated amongst non-Devils fans for some time now.


Do you think there will always be some kind blemish next to Brodeur's achievements because of the team he had playing in front of him? Or, rather, do you see fans never really giving him full credit?

Before I get hosed, let me give my opinion. While I think Brodeur has benefitted from playing for the Devils, he's by no means a Mike Dunham without them. He's a great goaltender who was put into a situation that really allowed him to be successful. He deserves the records he's earned because I don't think any team could inflate a player's stats to such a degree. Well, at least not for goaltenders. Maybe, MAYBE, the Devils get him to the plateaus a tad faster, but he'd have gotten there regardless.


Honestly interested in Devils fans reaction.

Absolutely. The Devils have accelerated Brodeur's success to a certain degree. I'll never dispute that both the Devils and Brodeur make each other better. However, I don't think that Brodeur is infinitely ****tier without the Devils like a lot of the posters here do.

Like you said, he deserves his records and the recognition that comes along with them. Hockey is a team game. Would Messier have been as successful if he hadn't been an Oiler in their glory days? Of course not. Why are his stats so invincible then?

Good post, Shadowtron.

Sweet, this game's on tv for my area. :D

Sweet, this game's on tv for my area. :D

Me too, along with the Pens games Wednesday and the game tomorrow night which should be on SRC, that's 3 Devils games on national TV in one week! :yo:


And on the topic, Brodeur has been helped by the defensive system, but there are other teams that play defense just as well as the Devs, but they don't have 3 cups in 9 years. Brodeur could win 3 more cups, a world cup gold medal, another olympic gold medal, set records for wins and shutouts, and still have people posting topics like "Is Brodeur really that much better than Roman Chechmanek?" And I really don't care anymore. These threads seem to come up every month and last for dozens of back-and-forth posts that say the same things. I just don't open them anymore, because there is really no point arguing with these guys.

I am looking forward to see Brodeur get his 400 win hopefully tonight. I was there for his 300th win and hopefully tonight I will witness his 400th win... Brodeur will be the 7th goalies to hit 400 wins. That is some record to be in with the remaining six other goalies... Brodeur is one of the best and this is another milestone for Brodeur...

Do you think there will always be some kind blemish next to Brodeur's achievements because of the team he had playing in front of him? Or, rather, do you see fans never really giving him full credit?

I don't think there should be a blemish next to Brodeur's achievements. Some people will try to spin it to diminish Brodeur's accomplishments, of course.

The goalie with many of the career records that Brodeur is chasing is Patrick Roy, regarded by many as the greatest goalie in NHL history. But look at the great Montreal and Colorado teams Roy played for. Montreal was only bad team in 1994-95. The following season, Roy was sent to a powerful Colorado team.

So I don't think Brodeur's substantial career numbers should be dismissed as a byproduct of a great team. Brodeur has won the Most Valuable Devil award for the past eight (sharing it in 2000-01 with Patrik Elias.) He makes huge saves, and he does it almost every single game.

Marty Brodeur's accomplishments should not have an * beside them, he is an awesome goalie and while being one of the most worked goalies in the league, year in year out. He will break Patrick Roy's records no doubt, and he will probably always be a Devil! That being said, I hope he doesn't get his 400th this weekend!

Marty has certianly benefitted from coming up with a team like the Devils, but why should he be penalized for that? He is the piece that puts this team over the top. I would argue that the tables would probably be turned if he had come up with Philly in the mid-'90s, and they might have 3 cups not the Devils.

No matter how good the team infront of you is, if he wasn't one of the all time greats, he would have been exposed by now. If is is so easy to hide behind a great team, how come Philly and Detroit have had a revolving door in net for the last 10 years? They are both good teams with extremely solid defenses and usually much more offensive support than the Devs. How about Ottawa? They would probably be defending champs if Marty were in the other net last year.

All of the great goalies have had at least really good supporting casts, so why should Marty be penalized for it?

Here ya go,guys.