Cameron, our Superfan

You know, I always had hoped I would find a career I loved. Being an attorney is alright, I guess. But this guy Cameron, he truly is a genious.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03012009/news/regionalnews/fan_tastic_gig_157527.htm

I cant stand him

I despise him to. And he's not the Devil's Superfarn, as he does it at multiple teams across multiple cities. He was at the Caps' game earlier this week.

Thats BS, I didnt know this guy even existed, never mind got paid to rile up the crowds, if the Devils wanna PAY someone to do it......call me, at least I'm a freekin fan of the team.

They should hire CJ :)........................After figuring out what he really is I never want to see him again. Especially if he is going to cross the river to NY.

This guy is great for the team and the crowd. Why critisize something that's good for the arena, is a good laugh in between face-offs, and gets the crowd going?

Please someone explain why you would not like someone that gets the crowd going. Becasue he actually has to like the Devils? Grow up please.

That link doesn't work, but is this about that idiot who throws his sweaty t-shirts into the crowd and dances around like he's on a 4 day meth and red bull binge? I boo that guy mercilessly.

That link doesn't work, but is this about that idiot who throws his sweaty t-shirts into the crowd and dances around like he's on a 4 day meth and red bull binge? I boo that guy mercilessly.

That's the guy. He is atrocious.

I did this for free in Section 2 yesterday. But it didnt involve me dancing with fat women and throwing shirts at people.

Give the guy credit, he does his job well. People react to him. He has started waves that go around the arena like 20 times.
I see hes a Sens fan, his backstory is pretty funny.

I just don;t get how anyone could not like what he brings to the arena. He does his thing in between faceoffs and tv timeouts, he gets the crowd going, kids love him, and he starts chants/waves. Ok, he does throw around sweaty t-shirts, but if you catch one and don;t want it, give it to someone else. I caught one and took it home and actually washed it!!!!!!

I think he's great.

It's pathetic on our part. We as fans don't rile ourselves up, so the management has to pay a guy to do it... ugh. :shakehead

So basically this came from the same minds that thought this was a good idea?

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There's just something not very appealing about taking a shirt off the sweaty back of some ginger who is dancing like a complete ****ing dbag.

So basically this came from the same minds that thought this was a good idea?

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That franchise should just shoot itself. I'm being super-serial.

So basically this came from the same minds that thought this was a good idea?

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just another classless devils fan who doesn't understand what that video was about and what it represented. Stupid classless devils fans.:shakehead



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He does his job well and gets paid well, people just have to stop being jealous.

He does his job well and gets paid well, people just have to stop being jealous.

I'm not jealous, I'm pissed because his obnoxiousness detracts from my ability to watch the game.

I'm not jealous, I'm pissed because his obnoxiousness detracts from my ability to watch the game.

He doesn't do it while the game is in action though.


O and about him starting waves. We have started waves before without him.

He doesn't do it while the game is in action though.


O and about him starting waves. We have started waves before without him.

I know this, but the entire arena does it when he does it.

I despise him to. And he's not the Devil's Superfarn, as he does it at multiple teams across multiple cities. He was at the Caps' game earlier this week.

I think it's completely disingenuous that he works for a bunch of teams. Not to mention he's annoying and doesnt know when to stop and gets in people's way.


EDIT: This is what I mean

Other teams, such as the Devils, don't like to discuss Hughes' work for them, believing people would be disappointed to learn he isn't a die-hard fan.

He doesn't do it while the game is in action though.


O and about him starting waves. We have started waves before without him.

No, but he blocks seats so people can't get back to their seats on time, and then people are all standing up when play starts.

The fact that he starts the wave should have him thrown out of any hockey rink anywhere. ANYONE that starts the wave should not be allowed in a hockey arena. The wave is what you do when you are bored. Unless you are at a Rangers game, you should NEVER be doing the wave at a hockey game.

He gets very annoying at the games, but whatever, he does his job.

He gets very annoying at the games, but whatever, he does his job.

exactly he gets teh casual fans excited and gets them to make some noise so I wont complain to much.

exactly he gets teh casual fans excited and gets them to make some noise so I wont complain to much.

Yep. Its a different reaction for a STH, and someone who goes to 1 or 2 Devils games a year, or someone who is attending their first game (might scare them away =P)

He takes away jumbotron time from the devils dancers, which is an unforgivable sin in my opinion.

He takes away jumbotron time from the devils dancers, which is an unforgivable sin in my opinion.

You can always be one of those horny creepers that stand right behind them :laugh:

He takes away jumbotron time from the devils dancers, which is an unforgivable sin in my opinion.Ditto.

BTW: I saw this Cameron fella in Washington.:nod: That fool can go ****himself!!!:rant:

I think it's completely disingenuous that he works for a bunch of teams. Not to mention he's annoying and doesnt know when to stop and gets in people's way.


EDIT: This is what I mean

What you mean you didn't originally think he worked for the team?

Look I'll admit I've never seen the guy in action but from the first time I read a description of what he did I knew he wasn't a fan but a guy the team was paying.

i think this dude is hilarious.

I hate him even more now after reading that article

He takes away jumbotron time from the devils dancers, which is an unforgivable sin in my opinion.

Good call

Yep. Its a different reaction for a STH, and someone who goes to 1 or 2 Devils games a year, or someone who is attending their first game (might scare them away =P)

That, plus when he does it five or six times in the same game it gets old after oh, about the third time. The casual fan probably does get into him more than the sth.

Didn't he start dancing right after Marty was hurt? During the Atlanta game.

Didn't he start dancing right after Marty was hurt? During the Atlanta game.

Yep, I've basically had no use for Cameron since then. I wasn't even at that game, but was incredulous when I heard :amazed:

That, plus when he does it five or six times in the same game it gets old after oh, about the third time. The casual fan probably does get into him more than the sth.

3rd time total - not per game. It seems like he does the same routine over and over as well.. I actually dread him coming to my section because its very annoying. I try to block it out as much as possible.

Yeah I kinda thought this guy was funny at first, but upon finding out that he's nothing more than a hired jackass, it kinda puts me off since he's just doing it to get paid. At first I thought he was someone who worked for the team (like the new marketing guy) but he's just some hired hand, kinda sucks.

Well, considering he pretty much goes around the entire arena throughout the games he is at; that he's a hired gun shouldn't be a surprise. I'd think if I tried to do that, the ushers would not-so-kindly ask me to leave.

Still, he gets the crowd into it and I think that's a positive. Too many people go to hockey games and expect solitude or seem ashamed of getting excited in public.

This guy gets rid of the "shame" involved in making some noise; and I think that's a good thing.

I'll bet you some of those Devils Dancers are definitely not die-hard Devils fans; but I doubt any of you would want them to go away!

I'll bet you some of those Devils Dancers are definitely not die-hard Devils fans; but I doubt any of you would want them to go away!

Yes, but I'll bet you they dont also behave like tawdry pole-dancing tramps at Capitals, Knicks, Cavaliers, and Senators games.

Well, considering he pretty much goes around the entire arena throughout the games he is at; that he's a hired gun shouldn't be a surprise. I'd think if I tried to do that, the ushers would not-so-kindly ask me to leave.

Still, he gets the crowd into it and I think that's a positive. Too many people go to hockey games and expect solitude or seem ashamed of getting excited in public.

This guy gets rid of the "shame" involved in making some noise; and I think that's a good thing.

I'll bet you some of those Devils Dancers are definitely not die-hard Devils fans; but I doubt any of you would want them to go away!

But the dancers are at every game, they're cheerleaders, sports has always had hot chicks with pom poms and skimpy skirts.

Sports has not always had a goofy fat sweaty dude runnin around like a jackass trying to be a cheerleader - especially one that does the same **** for 8 different teams in 3 different sports.

And no, he does not go around the entire arena - 90 percent of the time he's in the lower bowl.


I will agree that they need something to get the crowd more into it, but that's not our crowds style. I've given up on it, so I'm just a loud jackass on my own in 229, I've noticed our fans would rather just sit there and take the game in and cheer goals, boo penalties and the like. Would I like to see a more interactive atmosphere where we have different chants and whatnot like in college games? Sure, but that's not gonna happen and if it were - a jackass throwing t-shirts to people in the lower bowl is not going to be the catalyst.

don't know why people are surprised sweaty t-shirt weirdo is a paid plant. thought it was pretty obvious from the beginning. he just got over with the crowd better, than say, Claude the Trumpeter....

don't know why people are surprised sweaty t-shirt weirdo is a paid plant. thought it was pretty obvious from the beginning. he just got over with the crowd better, than say, Claude the Trumpeter....

Or Halloween lady at the first Devils win at Prudential Center vs the Lightning :facepalm:

Remember that?

don't know why people are surprised sweaty t-shirt weirdo is a paid plant. thought it was pretty obvious from the beginning. he just got over with the crowd better, than say, Claude the Trumpeter....

I knew he was a paid plant, what I didn't know until about 2 weeks ago that he was a paid plant for other teams as well. That makes it a lot worse.

Yeah I hope he doesnt show up at the playoff games.

I knew he was a paid plant, what I didn't know until about 2 weeks ago that he was a paid plant for other teams as well. That makes it a lot worse.

that's what I mean, I should have been clearer. I figured he was a traveling act like Claude the Trumpeter. He didn't get booed out of the building like Claude, so they rolled with it. doesn't really make a difference to me if he works for other teams or not, just by working for one, he's pretending to be a fan.

Or Halloween lady at the first Devils win at Prudential Center vs the Lightning :facepalm:

Remember that?

I had forgotten. Thanks. :cry:

Can someone explain to me how this is any different than Zamboni races on the Jumbotron or the lame "MAKE SOME NOISE" graphics they flash up there, or the t-shirt cannon, or any number of other things teams do to entertain fans and get people into the crowd spirit?

I could care less about these guys, but I can't understand how you can hate on the guy either. He gets paid to get people to clap and laugh, and he has a good sense of humor about it and doesn't appear to take himself seriously. I tip my cap to him, really.

Yes, but I'll bet you they dont also behave like tawdry pole-dancing tramps at Capitals, Knicks, Cavaliers, and Senators games.




Aren't they the ironmen girls?

when i was there.....mother****er wore like 85 shirts. does he pay for those things?

I understand when you wear 12 billion shirts and dance around like a moron you are going to work up a sweat. By for the love of god can this guy go to the bathroom and wipe his face down and use a little deodorant before he moves to a different section? Saturday he was standing right next to me during play with sweat all over his face and a losing battle with body odor. Like I said, a billion shirts and dancing you are gonna sweat but clean up during the game a bit. Beer and a whiff of his body odor are not a good combination.:cry:

I'll bet you some of those Devils Dancers are definitely not die-hard Devils fans; but I doubt any of you would want them to go away!

1) Those are basically cheerleaders
2)The tard isn't a die-hard Devils fan, he is hired by the NHL and does several teams league wide. He is a straight-up nuisance in more ways than one. He doesn't really help the noise level significantly and I feel for those who sit behind the nets. It's bad enough they gotta deal with insane ticket prices.

when i was there.....mother****er wore like 85 shirts. does he pay for those things?

I'm guessing hes given these shirts inbetween going from section to section.. No way he pays for them. Just like the Devils Dancers don't pay for the t-shirts they throw, etc.

Didn't he start dancing right after Marty was hurt? During the Atlanta game.

Yeah, he came up next to 209 - 210 and started doing his thing. It was bad enough that he was trying to stir things up then, but the fact that the crowd responded was even worse. Nothing like feeling that your team's season is going down the drain in front of your eyes while watching people jump around and dance.

Even with that experience I don't find him to be too bad most of the time. I don't get into his dances or respond when he initiates a wave (just won't do that at a hockey game), but I can see the positive effect he has on the casual fans. Most STH around me hate him, but I can live with his presence since he does do a good job at getting the crowd involved.

I think it was fairly obvious by the middle of opening night that he was a hired hand and that he probably did a similar job for other teams. The article just confirms what most already knew/thought.

he just got over with the crowd better, than say, Claude the Trumpeter....

This reminded me, in Montreal in the late 90s to early 00s, they had this guy that must have been 173 years old that played an electric violin.
He really got the crowd into it and excited playing hi-tempo songs on that electric fiddle. When I went up there in December with my girlfriend to the Devils/Habs game, he wasnt there :cry: I'll have to go ask the Habs board, but I imagine he's not "around" anymore. Dude really was old.

I can't believe people are really getting all bent out of shape about this guy....get over it people!

As far as the dancing thing when Marty got injured, he probably didn't realize it and I don't think anyone thought it was a serious as it was at the time.

Props to this guy for making a career out of what he's doing.. Seriously.. Up to 2k an appearance and can make almost a 6 figure salary in a year.. Good for him!:amazed:

I think the guy is great. There are way more fan's that love him than hate him and he get's a whole building going. Remember guys years ago the Devils had Bowman (Not sure if that's the spelling of his name sorry.) running around getting the crowds all crazy with his chant's it's no different. Fans love him if you don't like it don't watch that's what I think. He throws sweaty t-shirts out to people that's ok go home and wash it. LOL!!! There's nobody else getting excited and crazy like him so why not let him do his thing.

On a side note something that we do that's classless and trailer trash is say to the opposing team "You Suck" during the goal song. It's unnecessary and trashy. I don't understand why we have to say that after any goal. Maybe the Rangers and Flyers but no other team in the league deserves that.

I think the guy is great. There are way more fan's that love him than hate him and he get's a whole building going. Remember guys years ago the Devils had Bowman (Not sure if that's the spelling of his name sorry.) running around getting the crowds all crazy with his chant's it's no different. Fans love him if you don't like it don't watch that's what I think. He throws sweaty t-shirts out to people that's ok go home and wash it. LOL!!! There's nobody else getting excited and crazy like him so why not let him do his thing.

On a side note something that we do that's classless and trailer trash is say to the opposing team "You Suck" during the goal song. It's unnecessary and trashy. I don't understand why we have to say that after any goal. Maybe the Rangers and Flyers but no other team in the league deserves that.

Here we go again....if you don't like it, don't participate it. If people participate in it, don't hate on them for it. :shakehead

On a side note something that we do that's classless and trailer trash is say to the opposing team "You Suck" during the goal song. It's unnecessary and trashy.

Agreed on all 3 counts above. I dont say it. It's just another example of the breakdown of proper public behavior in society.


EDIT: Though the "Gomez *******" addition to the annoying "Rangers suck" chant is FAR worse.

You suck is kinda here to stay.

Agreed on all 3 counts above. I dont say it. It's just another example of the breakdown of proper public behavior in society.

EDIT: Though the "Gomez *******" addition to the annoying "Rangers suck" chant is FAR worse.

Oh stop with your Goody Two-Shoes act...when did sporting events get so prim and proper?


Edit: I'll agree with you on that, simply because I hate the chant as a whole.

Oh stop with your Goody Two-Shoes act...when did sporting events get so prim and proper?


Edit: I'll agree with you on that, simply because I hate the chant as a whole.

The question you should be asking, is when did it stop?

It's not about "prim and proper", it's about decent behavior in public and ESPECIALLY knowing how to behave in front of young children (which is the part that bothers me). When I was younger, there were far fewer people that would go over the line at sporting events, as well as far more people to "peer pressure herd" those acting badly back into behaving in a "non-trailor trash" manner (to borrow the above posters phrase).

Now? It's like anything goes. The attitude of many now is "**** the little seven year old sitting in the row in front of me. I'll say whatever I ****ing want because I PAID good money for this ticket"

On a side note something that we do that's classless and trailer trash is say to the opposing team "You Suck" during the goal song. It's unnecessary and trashy. I don't understand why we have to say that after any goal. Maybe the Rangers and Flyers but no other team in the league deserves that.

Every "fan base" in the country says "You suck" when this song comes on..

The question you should be asking, is when did it stop?

It's not about "prim and proper", it's about decent behavior in public and ESPECIALLY knowing how to behave in front of young children (which is the part that bothers me). When I was younger, there were far fewer people that would go over the line at sporting events, as well as far more people to "peer pressure herd" those acting badly back into behaving in a "non-trailor trash" manner (to borrow the above posters phrase).

Now? It's like anything goes. The attitude of many now is "**** the little seven year old sitting in the row in front of me. I'll say whatever I ****ing want because I PAID good money for this ticket"

Saying "SUCKS" in front of a child at that age, who has probably heard far worse from A. his parents/relatives, B. in school doesn't bother me.

Cursing in front of children is another thing though and that I'll agree with you. But saying sucks...not that big of a deal. If a parent is being a parent, then they should be able to talk to their children about it and if they don't want their child saying it, that's up to them. But don't tell me how I should be acting at a game...that's wrong and not for you to tell me.

I'm not "trailer trash" as you guys say and all of the people I've met on here that say the "YOU SUCK" thing afterward are far from "trailer trash" also.

If you guys don't want to be stereo-typed, don't stereo-type the rest of us.

I don't want to get into the whole parents not being parents thing...so please don't make me go there.

I'm not "trailer trash" as you guys say and all of the people I've met on here that say the "YOU SUCK" thing afterward are far from "trailer trash" also.

If you guys don't want to be stereo-typed, don't stereo-type the rest of us.

I didnt say the "YOU SUCK" thing is trailor trash, but I do think it's non-classy and dumb. Yelling F-bombs in front of young children, however (and worse), that absolutely = Trailor trash.

I didnt say the "YOU SUCK" thing is trailor trash, but I do think it's non-classy and dumb. Yelling F-bombs in front of young children, however, that absolutely = Trailor trash.

Well you heard it here folks...all of us that say "You Suck" aren't classy...I guess the Rangers fans were right after all! :shakehead :sarcasm:

Most people don't know how to act around their own kids. Me calling some dumbass Ranger fan a "****ing mongoloid" isn't going to effect their upbringing.

Most people don't know how to act around their own kids. Me calling some dumbass Ranger a fan a "****ing mongoloid" isn't going to effect their upbringing.


As stated earlier: I don't want to get into the whole parents not being parents thing...so please don't make me go there.

Most people don't know how to act around their own kids. Me calling some dumbass Ranger fan a "****ing mongoloid" isn't going to effect their upbringing.
LOL at your reason for editing.

Well you heard it here folks...all of us that say "You Suck" aren't classy...I guess the Rangers fans were right after all! :shakehead :sarcasm:


Whether you approve or not, the simple fact is that this sort of crowd behavior did not generally exist 20 or 25 years ago. I'll let everyone draw their own conclusions for why that is.

Whether you approve or not, the simple fact is that this sort of crowd behavior did not generally exist 20 or 25 years ago. I'll let everyone draw their own conclusions for why that is.

You're acting like you're so much older than me...when you're really not. :shakehead

Please stop thinking that you're above everyone else because you don't participate in this stuff. It is your choice not to participate, so don't look down upon people because you don't like it and because they participate in it. Who are you to judge how people should and shouldn't act?

Whether you approve or not, the simple fact is that this sort of crowd behavior did not generally exist 20 or 25 years ago. I'll let everyone draw their own conclusions for why that is.

You 100% sure of this? Because I heard stories from my parents, and rest assured, it did.

Someone posted this on TG's blog.

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Look what I started. LOL! I don't take part on the "You Suck" cj225. I just voiced my opinion. Sorry for any arguments I may have started.

Look what I started. LOL! I don't take part on the "You Suck" cj225. I just voiced my opinion. Sorry for any arguments I may have started.

I assumed you didn't by what you said. And that's fine to voice your opinion, but some people around here must realize that they're opinion isn't the be-all end-all around here.

No need to apologize..I like debating this kind of stuff.

Every "fan base" in the country says "You suck" when this song comes on..

Not true. I have been to many other arenas and they don't do that when they play Rock & Roll Pt. 2. Just stating fact.

Not true. I have been to many other arenas and they don't do that when they play Rock & Roll Pt. 2. Just stating fact.

Are they playing it after a goal or just to play it?

I do know that Dallas plays it and they don't do the "You Suck" thing...at least not where I was sitting anyway.

You're acting like you're so much older than me...when you're really not. :shakehead

Please stop thinking that you're above everyone else because you don't participate in this stuff. It is your choice not to participate, so don't look down upon people because you don't like it and because they participate in it. Who are you to judge how people should and shouldn't act? Perhaps not, but I do remember frequently going to games 20 or 25 years ago. Also, I've had this discussion numerous times before that people years ago (before my time) had more respect for other people's children and behaved better in their presence. In terms of "Judging", I'd say you're getting a bit dramatic and taking the discussion a bit too far and personalizing it. Lastly, I'd also note that in my lifetime the F-bomb has practically become acceptable among some people in public in everyday speech, and on that point I'm SURE it wasnt the case 15, 20, 25 years ago (I've even noticed a difference in the last 10 years). Of that point I am certain.

You 100% sure of this? Because I heard stories from my parents, and rest assured, it did.

That's why I threw in the "generally" comment, but yeah, I feel pretty safe with it. While we're on the subject of crowd psychology (apparently controversial? who knew?), I also believe our corner of the country (New York-Philly-New England) is by far the worst in North America. As a former business travelor, I've been to games literally every big city in American and Canada (with the exception of LA, Toronto, and Dallas), and I'm sorry, but you just dont tend to see and hear crowds acting "as poorly as commonly" as you do here. People can behave poorly anywhere, but I just dont see it with the same frequency.

I like it better without it. I think its stupid but thats just my opinion... What was wrong with the way we did it all those years without it? I like to celebrate the goal more than yell at the other team. The only time I took part in it and had fun doing it was when we beat the Rangers 8-5 and we were yelling "YOU SUCK" reallllly loud at the Queen. That was great.

Are they playing it after a goal or just to play it?

I do know that Dallas plays it and they don't do the "You Suck" thing...at least not where I was sitting anyway.

Correct that's one. Now I haven't been to all the arenas that play that song but the ones I have been don't say "You Suck" like we do. I really think we are the only ones. Hey if you want to say it that's fine who am I to tell anyone otherwise. Im just not doing it. I do have to agree cursing in front of kids though is def not a good thing.

Perhaps not, but I do remember frequently going to games 20 or 25 years ago. Also, I've had this discussion numerous times before that people years ago (before my time) had more respect for other people's children and behaved better in their presence. In terms of "Judging", I'd say you're getting a bit dramatic and taking the discussion a bit too far and personalizing it. Lastly, I'd also note that in my lifetime the F-bomb has practically become acceptable among some people in public in everyday speech, and on that point I'm SURE it wasnt the case 15, 20, 25 years ago (I've even noticed a difference in the last 10 years). Of that point I am certain.

The F-bomb is one word I could do without...personally it's way overused and totally not needed. And me going to games 20 years ago, I was 7.5 and with my dad and very naive and saying "sucks" wasn't in our vocabulary AT ALL. But like you've stated the country as whole has changed and that's why it's more common now.

As far as taking it personally, you're right, I may be taking it a little too personally, but I'm offended when someone calls me, trashy, unclassy, etc simply for saying the words "you suck" after a goal song. I'm in that category that you're targeting and I feel I have a right to stand up for myself.

I'm also a little extra touchy after this weekend, but because some d-bag STH in my section is a coward and wrote a letter complaining about me for who knows what.

That's why I threw in the "generally" comment, but yeah, I feel pretty safe with it. While we're on the subject of crowd psychology (apparently controversial? who knew?), I also believe our corner of the country (New York-Philly-New England) is by far the worst in North America. As a former business travelor, I've been to games literally every big city in American and Canada (with the exception of LA, Toronto, and Dallas), and I'm sorry, but you just dont tend to see and hear crowds acting "as poorly as commonly" as you do here. People can behave poorly anywhere, but I just dont see it with the same frequency.

I don't know about that. I've also been to other arenas and I've come across some people that weren't particularly nice to me and for no other reason than simply wearing a Devils jersey.

You also tend to sit in the lower level of the arenas from what you've stated, so that could play into why you don't hear those things.

I think its stupid but thats just my opinion... What was wrong with the way we did it all those years without it? I like to celebrate the goal more than yell at the other team.

You know when it's REALLY stupid, regardless of whether you think it's classy or non-classy? When the Devils score their first goal of the game to make it 4-1 and are still losing by 3. :shakehead M-O-R-O-N-I-C

Correct that's one. Now I haven't been to all the arenas that play that song but the ones I have been don't say "You Suck" like we do. I really think we are the only ones. Hey if you want to say it that's fine who am I to tell anyone otherwise. Im just not doing it. I do have to agree cursing in front of kids though is def not a good thing.

The Isles fans did it...and up in the upper corners of Pittsburgh you may hear it, but I'm not sure.

You know when it's REALLY stupid, regardless of whether you think it's classy or non-classy? When the Devils score their first goal of the game to make it 4-1 and are still losing by 3. :shakehead M-O-R-O-N-I-C

Well doing the "Rangers suck" chant incessantly is also moronic when down 4-0....but I don't participate in that chant unless we're playing them (and it's usually only 1 time).

I like it better without it. I think its stupid but thats just my opinion... What was wrong with the way we did it all those years without it? I like to celebrate the goal more than yell at the other team. The only time I took part in it and had fun doing it was when we beat the Rangers 8-5 and we were yelling "YOU SUCK" reallllly loud at the Queen. That was great.

You know what you made a great point. I rather celebrate without it because when you say "You Suck" your not celebrating the goal your just reminding the opposing team that they are playing bad. I would rather celebrate the hard work of that goal we just got.

The Isles fans did it...and up in the upper corners of Pittsburgh you may hear it, but I'm not sure.

Isles only do it during Rangers or Devils games. Go when its a random team and they don't do it. I never heard Pens do it and def not Colorado.

Isles only do it during Rangers or Devils games. Go when its a random team and they don't do it. I never heard Pens do it and def not Colorado.

I'm not so sure about that....the Isles fans had a whole thread on it a while back and it didn't seem like it was only then.

And yeah, Colorado didn't do it either.

I personally think the people that don't like it make a bigger deal out of it than it really needs to be.

The Isles fans did it...and up in the upper corners of Pittsburgh you may hear it, but I'm not sure.
Nashville (http://boards.nashvillepredators.com/index.php?showtopic=9312) also does it.

Well doing the "Rangers suck" chant incessantly is also moronic when down 4-0....but I don't participate in that chant unless we're playing them (and it's usually only 1 time).

Yea that's a great point. Why do we do the Ranger's Suck chant every game when were not playing them. That's something I'll never understand that need's to be used only against them and Islanders because those fans enjoy doing it with us. LOL

Nashville (http://boards.nashvillepredators.com/index.php?showtopic=9312) also does it.

Ohh ok thanks for the confirmation that's actually one of the arena's i haven't been to. I wonder if they just do it to there rivals like the Islanders.

I'm not so sure about that....the Isles fans had a whole thread on it a while back and it didn't seem like it was only then.

And yeah, Colorado didn't do it either.

I personally think the people that don't like it make a bigger deal out of it than it really needs to be.

I agree with both sides. Is it really bad no there are far worse like Flyers ****** or Gomez ******. Can you understand why people don't like it yes of coarse its not something some people want to hear. One question I would ask is if it's necessary. What I would rather see is crazy fans getting loud during the games than it being quiet and only getting loud and crazy to say "You Suck" It's a two sided coin ya know.

I'm also a little extra touchy after this weekend, but because some d-bag STH in my section is a coward and wrote a letter complaining about me for who knows what.

Why haven't you been told specifically about what if you already know someone complained about you?

I always want the crowd to partake in whatever will amp up the atmosphere, so long as it doesn't interferes with anyone's enjoyment of the game.

For example I think the Rangers suck chant can get stupid at times (especially since it seems to be increasing in frequency lately) but I'm not going to rag on anyone for it because it gets people jacked up. Which is the same reason some stick up for Cameron even though I find him annoying :sarcasm:

I don't think saying anything 'sucks' really borders on bad taste since the word has different meanings. The swallows part probably does though since in that context it only has one meaning. Cursing is in bad taste too but unfortunately that's already prevalent in society at large as well.

I did this for free in Section 2 yesterday. But it didnt involve me dancing with fat women and throwing shirts at people.

Give the guy credit, he does his job well. People react to him. He has started waves that go around the arena like 20 times.
I see hes a Sens fan, his backstory is pretty funny.

Well I was stuck in section 212 with about 100 Flyers fan....A couple of the laies looked like strippers, so it wasn't two bad, but thank God the Devils won or it would have been intolerable...Surprised the Devils biggest fan wasn't at this game..:)

Why haven't you been told specifically about what if you already know someone complained about you?

I always want the crowd to partake in whatever will amp up the atmosphere, so long as it doesn't interferes with anyone's enjoyment of the game.

For example I think the Rangers suck chant can get stupid at times (especially since it seems to be increasing in frequency lately) but I'm not going to rag on anyone for it because it gets people jacked up. Which is the same reason some stick up for Cameron even though I find him annoying :sarcasm:

I don't think saying anything 'sucks' really borders on bad taste since the word has different meanings. The swallows part probably does though since in that context it only has one meaning. Cursing is in bad taste too but unfortunately that's already prevalent in society at large as well.

I have no idea...it was mentioned to me on Saturday so I was a little quieter....and then my dad asked about it again on Sunday. I was told someone from AEG was going to come and talk to me possibly, but nothing yet.

Don't I have a right to know who my accuser is?

I have no idea...it was mentioned to me on Saturday so I was a little quieter

By whom? Are you sure someone wasnt screwing with you?



For example I think the Rangers suck chant can get stupid at times (especially since it seems to be increasing in frequency lately)

I have a theory on this, since it "increased in frequentcy" towards the end of last year too. I think it's because attendance increases near the playoffs and there are lots of people that only go to 1 or 2 games per year. If you're one of these people, you might think the "Rangers Suck" chant is clever and amusing, whereas if you go to 15 or 40 games per year, you realize it's simply obnoxious and stupid.

I know that I am older than most people here (37 to be exact). I also know that most of you aren't parents, so I get the mentality. I, however, am one, and I take my job as a parent very seriously.

When you are a parent, and you take your children to a game (or anywhere, for that matter), you will understand that the denegration of society is the single biggest issue facing all parents, both good and bad (I agree with you BG).

I should not have to explain to my 8 and 5 year old sons about the words that I hear at games all the time. And I am not even talking about "suck", which is bad enough. For instance, what do I tell my 8 year old "swallows" means? (It's a rhetorical question). It's not as simple or easy as it sounds.

I should be able to take my boys to a Devils game without the added vocabulary lesson. Are they going to hear those words from other people? Of course, but when it comes from kids that's one thing. When comes from grown adults shouting obscenities in public, I have a problem with that.

Now before everyone goes off the deep end, just understand that I used to be like all of you. But, being a parent, responsible for the upbringing of another human being, changes the way one looks at the world. One day, hopefully, for all of you here, you will understand what I say.

I have no idea...it was mentioned to me on Saturday so I was a little quieter....and then my dad asked about it again on Sunday. I was told someone from AEG was going to come and talk to me possibly, but nothing yet.

Don't I have a right to know who my accuser is?

lol, I can't believe someone wrote a letter. If you ever get served with it, you have to scan it.

What in the world did you do? I use to stand up during games and go on insane rants and I only got "talked to" once. Ever. It was for cursing. But the time I threatened to decapitate Kerry Fraser and show his kids the head when Ron Hextall drove them back from school... nothing. And that was at the top of my lungs. Downstairs.

By whom? Are you sure someone wasnt screwing with you?

I'm not sure. One of the head guys from security said something to me about it and then to my dad about it again on Sunday. All he said was a STH in my section has written a few letters.

I know that I am older than most people here (37 to be exact). I also know that most of you aren't parents, so I get the mentality. I, however, am one, and I take my job as a parent very seriously.

When you are a parent, and you take your children to a game (or anywhere, for that matter), you will understand that the denegration of society is the single biggest issue facing all parents, both good and bad (I agree with you BG).

I should not have to explain to my 8 and 5 year old sons about the words that I hear at games all the time. And I am not even talking about "suck", which is bad enough. For instance, what do I tell my 8 year old "swallows" means? (It's a rhetorical question). It's not as simple or easy as it sounds.

I should be able to take my boys to a Devils game without the added vocabulary lesson. Are they going to hear those words from other people? Of course, but when it comes from kids that's one thing. When comes from grown adults shouting obscenities in public, I have a problem with that.

Now before everyone goes off the deep end, just understand that I used to be like all of you. But, being a parent, responsible for the upbringing of another human being, changes the way one looks at the world. One day, hopefully, for all of you here, you will understand what I say.

I totally understand where you're coming from, and while I'm not a parent, I would have the same mentality as you if I was one. Since I'm not one to curse, when someone does start cursing around me I usually say something to them. However, the word suck, I don't feel in the sense that it's being used is anything sexual...however I do have a huge issue with the "swallows" part.

I was actually discussing this earlier with my boyfriend...for me right now saying sucks isn't something I have a problem with, but if I had children, I wouldn't be saying it front of them, especially if I didn't want them to say it.

lol, I can't believe someone wrote a letter. If you ever get served with it, you have to scan it.

What in the world did you do? I use to stand up during games and go on insane rants and I only got "talked to" once. Ever. It was for cursing. But the time I threatened to decapitate Kerry Fraser and show his kids the head when Ron Hextall drove them back from school... nothing. And that was at the top of my lungs. Downstairs.

Oh don't you worry, I will be! I'll keep everyone informed of the situation because I know as much as you all do right now.

The only thing I've said recently was another word for cat, at that stupid Flyers fan, but I don't think that was enough time for someone to write a letter (that was Thursday night, I was told about the letter(s) on Saturday). I wish I knew...but I don't!

I totally understand where you're coming from, and while I'm not a parent, I would have the same mentality as you if I was one. Since I'm not one to curse, when someone does start cursing around me I usually say something to them. However, the word suck, I don't feel in the sense that it's being used is anything sexual...however I do have a huge issue with the "swallows" part.

I was actually discussing this earlier with my boyfriend...for me right now saying sucks isn't something I have a problem with, but if I had children, I wouldn't be saying it front of them, especially if I didn't want them to say it.

That is precisely what I am referring to. As a parent in an open forum, such as a hockey game, I can't control what my children hear. People who say that I (or any parent) should just explain to them about what these other people are saying are missing the point. I feel I should never be put in that position in the first place. That, of course, is an unrealistic expectation, so I try to keep them out of those situations by doing things like not taking them to Ranger or Flyer games.

The biggest issue, I feel, is that kids know they are words not to be said in public, and that coupled with the fact they often think it's funny and/or cool or grown-up to say these words, means that they may be said at just the wrong time.

Ohh ok thanks for the confirmation that's actually one of the arena's i haven't been to. I wonder if they just do it to there rivals like the Islanders.
No, I'm pretty sure it's like how it is here. It happens all the time, just not everyone takes part in it. However, I do think they have a family friendly section or something like that.

Correct that's one. Now I haven't been to all the arenas that play that song but the ones I have been don't say "You Suck" like we do. I really think we are the only ones. Hey if you want to say it that's fine who am I to tell anyone otherwise. Im just not doing it. I do have to agree cursing in front of kids though is def not a good thing.

I'm pretty sure that the "You Suck!" thing during Rock and Roll Part 2 started at University of Maryland games in the 1980s. It got so prevalent that it carried over to Caps games in the late 90s, to the point where the Caps stopped using the song as their goal song because of people complaining. The UMD band is not allowed to play it anymore, but the student body just sings the song on their own. It's hilarious when they yell it when the other team's band is playing after their football team just went down 31-0.

the UMD/Duke game that was on last week, lol, if some of the people here heard that crowd, they wouldn't be complaining about "sucks/swallows".

I think it's part of the social contract you sign by going to the game. And trying to force changes because you find it unacceptable just makes it worse.

Anybody remember what happened that caused 5,000 "Rangers Sucks/Flyers (Gomez) Swallows" chants a game? Instead of the usual one or two?

Now, I'm going to cross the line CJ didn't really want to seem to cross. I think the problem lies in not the actual chance the kid might curse... but that if he or she does, that it will reflect badly on the parent. And everyone is obsessed with what person A/B/C thinks of them.

"Can you believe what Bobby said today? Jill and Pete are such bad parents, they cannot match our morality."

Of course, then the two people that get in this conversation have a huge arguement in front of the kids where they use every word imaginable at some point in time. If it's just words.

But their kids didn't pick it up from that, it was the hockey game. It's a cycle.

Now, I'm going to cross the line CJ didn't really want to seem to cross. I think the problem lies in not the actual chance the kid might curse... but that if he or she does, that it will reflect badly on the parent. And everyone is obsessed with what person A/B/C thinks of them.

"Can you believe what Bobby said today? Jill and Pete are such bad parents, they cannot match our morality."


I do not think you could be further off base. I'm also going to guess that you do not have children? Not that I do either, but I cant imagine someone with kids holding the above beliefs. Nor do I know anyone that has brought their children to a hockey, baseball, etc game that welcomes profanity around their 8 year old.

I do not think you could be further off base. I'm also going to guess that you do not have children? Not that I do either, but I cant imagine someone with kids holding the above beliefs. Nor do I know anyone that has brought their children to a hockey, baseball, etc game that welcomes profanity around their 8 year old.

No, I don't have kids, but from experiences, I believe this to be not 100% true, but fairly close.

If not for the kid saying something at the wrong place, wrong time, and shaming the parents, what would the issue be? Every time I've been around a kid that starts popping off stuff they shouldn't be saying (from mildly vulgar to insane), what is the reaction afterwards... "I'm sorry, I'm so embarassed." What does that mean? :)

Let's put it this way, you have your kids 75% of the time. They're at school most of the rest of the time. So, that 1-2 times a year they go to a sporting event, that's where they pick up the bad habits? And not the 75% of the time they're with you? Or from their peers?

Cursing like a nutjob in front of kids at a hockey game is a form of vanity. But then again, so is this scenario.

And man has this gone off topic.

the UMD/Duke game that was on last week, lol, if some of the people here heard that crowd, they wouldn't be complaining about "sucks/swallows".

I think it's part of the social contract you sign by going to the game. And trying to force changes because you find it unacceptable just makes it worse.

Anybody remember what happened that caused 5,000 "Rangers Sucks/Flyers (Gomez) Swallows" chants a game? Instead of the usual one or two?

Now, I'm going to cross the line CJ didn't really want to seem to cross. I think the problem lies in not the actual chance the kid might curse... but that if he or she does, that it will reflect badly on the parent. And everyone is obsessed with what person A/B/C thinks of them.

"Can you believe what Bobby said today? Jill and Pete are such bad parents, they cannot match our morality."

Of course, then the two people that get in this conversation have a huge arguement in front of the kids where they use every word imaginable at some point in time. If it's just words.

But their kids didn't pick it up from that, it was the hockey game. It's a cycle.
I have a friend who considers herself among the Lynah faithful...she admits that they're "so mean" but "it's so funny." College crowds can be obscene.

As for reflecting badly on the parents, I actually don't think it does (at least not to the extent that it may have in past years). Parenting standards and what constitutes offensive language varies by community and even family (see: this thread). It's also situational. Sure, kids pick things up from their parents, but they're also heavily influenced by their peers (other kids). And of course other kids curse. Part of it is because they want to sound adult, and part of it is because that's just how they talk. When I was younger, my mom would get upset with me if I said "hey" because she thought it was rude, but I'm sure that when she was younger she said things that my grandparents would have found rude. So I think it's less about embarrassment now and more about rationalization ("Well, that's just how kids are") and making it situational ("We don't say those thing in our house. Doesn't matter if someone else says it.").

I have a friend who considers herself among the Lynah faithful...she admits that they're "so mean" but "it's so funny." College crowds can be obscene.

As for reflecting badly on the parents, I actually don't think it does (at least not to the extent that it may have in past years). Parenting standards and what constitutes offensive language varies by community and even family (see: this thread). It's also situational. Sure, kids pick things up from their parents, but they're also heavily influenced by their peers (other kids). And of course other kids curse. Part of it is because they want to sound adult, and part of it is because that's just how they talk. When I was younger, my mom would get upset with me if I said "hey" because she thought it was rude, but I'm sure that when she was younger she said things that my grandparents would have found rude. So I think it's less about embarrassment now and more about rationalization ("Well, that's just how kids are") and making it situational ("We don't say those thing in our house. Doesn't matter if someone else says it.").

sort of an edit, the line that you both bolded, I don't necessarily mean it as a conscious "attitude". but deep inside, it's there. I am also sure that for some people, it is conscious. And it is embarrassing when a kid goes off, I had a cousin who basically, all the vocabulary he had at 3 years old was extremely vulgar. so, where did he get it from?

I'm pretty sure that the "You Suck!" thing during Rock and Roll Part 2 started at University of Maryland games in the 1980s. It got so prevalent that it carried over to Caps games in the late 90s, to the point where the Caps stopped using the song as their goal song because of people complaining. The UMD band is not allowed to play it anymore, but the student body just sings the song on their own. It's hilarious when they yell it when the other team's band is playing after their football team just went down 31-0.

Really? That's interesting. I think there is enough discussion to get CSTV and History channel to make a funny Mocumenmtary about where "You Suck" during the Rock and Roll Pt. 2 came from and the people who want it and the people who don't. What do you guys think? LOL

Really? That's interesting. I think there is enough discussion to get CSTV and History channel to make a funny Mocumenmtary about where "You Suck" during the Rock and Roll Pt. 2 came from and the people who want it and the people who don't. What do you guys think? LOL

That doesn't exist anymore...

Parenting advice from hfboards, priceless!

Confront Cameron if you get the chance its sure fun!:nod:

Confront Cameron if you get the chance its sure fun!:nod:

my friend called him out yesterday and explained his deal. he came barreling up our section and looked like he was about to hit us. he explained that he was only in washington for one game and that it was a career oppurtunity and he took it. he talked to the devils management and he said from now on, he's only gonna work with the devils.

although he added, right before he left, "unless the money is right".

We don't need Cameron or the wave for that matter.....we have a hockey game to watch, and cheer for our Devs! Plain and simple.......

the UMD/Duke game that was on last week, lol, if some of the people here heard that crowd, they wouldn't be complaining about "sucks/swallows".

I was at the game, it was actually pretty tame compared to previous years. The worse was the entire student section holding up goofy pictures of one of the Duke pictures. 3-4 years ago the Maryland crowd got caught chanting "**** you J.J.!" with it coming through loud and clear on ESPN leadign to a controversy. This was actaully the first UMD-Duke game played at Maryland to be aired on ESPN since.

This guy is a retard, if you ask me.

Despite the negative feelings about him, I think he does a good job. I was in section 7 last night and he did a few things in section 6. He was really really nice to some little kids which impressed me and he did get the crowd going which made the arena very loud last night.

I think he does a good job.

Despite the negative feelings about him, I think he does a good job. I was in section 7 last night and he did a few things in section 6. He was really really nice to some little kids which impressed me and he did get the crowd going which made the arena very loud last night.

I think he does a good job.

Well maybe if the lower level would do something we wouldn't need him. It sucks to sit down in those sections. There nice seats and good view but those seats are no fun.

Well maybe if the lower level would do something we wouldn't need him. It sucks to sit down in those sections. There nice seats and good view but those seats are no fun.

I don't know why you would expect older people, kids and families to be raucus and insane. It is what it is. I was in Ottawa for Game 7 in 2003, I sat in the 8th row in what was a club seat (which I didn't realize was a club seat until 30 minutes before the game)... no one said a cross word to me the whole game, I was the loudest person in the area, and during my Friesen goal celebration, all of the towels that hit me came from upstairs. It is what it is and it's like that everywhere.

That he gets anything going should give him some credit, I understand people dont like him. I sure as hell wouldn't want to get a shirt from him, but I think going up to him to try and start a fight is ridiculous. You had to know the guy was a ringer and if he was a ringer, that he did the act somewhere else.

I was talking to him last night, he's actually a nice guy. I asked him, "Man what was up with that Capitals thing?" He just laughed and said, "The one freaking time I'm with another hockey team for an audition and it gets on TV, would you believe some guy tried to take a ****in swing at me for that?" Cowbell nailed it on the head though, he said somethin like "Dude it's jealousy, we pay to get into the game and be jackasses, you get paid to be here and go crazy, what the hell"

i seen him last night when he was going on the elevator. i highfived him. he was pumped.

to the rangers suck chant, last night people by me were chanting "rangers suck" "gomez swallows" "avery pays for it". i found it funny.