Let's Talk Lowell

Ok, if I were the Decision Maker:

Who I'd Keep: Eckford, Corrente, Vasyunov, Pelley, Disalvatore, Zharkov, Mills, Leblond, Swift, Tallackson, Davis, Halischuk, Ruggeri, Salmela, Frazee

Who I trade now or release at the end of this season: Spiller, Vrana (bc I think he's going back to Europe anyway), Bergfoirs, Gionta, Murphy, Rheaume,

Questionable: Magnan, Fraser, Caruso, Wiseman (injury)

From Trenton to Lowell: Tyler Burton, Ryan Gunderson, Kevin Cormier, Matt Cohen, Coleman

Your turn. Or challenge my decisions. Go.

Tyler Burton to the NHL solely for his name.

This guy doesn't like Bergfors does he.

Snetsinger to Lowell.

isnt there already a lowell thread? derka der

Snetsinger to Lowell.

Saw him play Sunday. He was ok but not going to Lowell (hope he proves me wrong) ................I love that name though.

This guy doesn't like Bergfors does he.
Kinda off-topic, but where did you get that untagged photo of Marty Brodeur?

Kinda off-topic, but where did you get that untagged photo of Marty Brodeur?

www.martinbrodeur30.com

www.martinbrodeur30.com
Yeah, but it has the website's logo watermarked on it, hence why I said untagged.

I agree with mostly everything except I think Rheume, Gionta and Spiller will stay. I think Bergfors will be in the NHL next year and Vrana is basically a lost cause. Also add Snetsinger to the move to Lowell group.

Yeah, but it has the website's logo watermarked on it, hence why I said untagged.

Sorry didnt notice no need to get snappy.

FYI there is a sticky Lowell thread.

Cohen was called up.

From snetsingers performance in Trenton I could see him coming up. Bergfors might be up at the beginning of the season, but Sutter doesn't like him. Thatll depend on how many guys stay next season.

Cohen is up, Burton is injured, but off Trenton's active roster. He's in ECHL AHL limbo.

I agree with mostly everything except I think Rheume, Gionta and Spiller will stay. I think Bergfors will be in the NHL next year and Vrana is basically a lost cause. Also add Snetsinger to the move to Lowell group.

It's not so much a problem with Rheaume staying, I'm just used to the veteran heading out the door after a season is done. And after the puck to the face this year, I could see him being done or coming back.

Gionta has been stripped of his "A" he has been out most of the season, and now that this year's team is better, he looks silly. Like a bumper car bounces off of trucks. Last year he was the "go-getter" but now that he's surrounded by better player's he looks out of place.

While Spiller might stay, I don't think he has enough motivation. He shows flashes of ability, but then games and games of lackluster, bored play. He reminds me of last year's Olli Malmivaara.

I was so shocked when I found out that Matt Spiller was related to a teacher at my school. Matt is the brother of my high school's hockey team and he was my anatomy teacher...weird huh. They're very nice and funny guys.

Cormier is not ready for the AHL, id say he needs atleast another year of development in the ECHL.

Cormier is not ready for the AHL, id say he needs atleast another year of development in the ECHL.

Comier has never been in the ECHL and most likely will never be there.

Comier has never been in the ECHL and most likely will never be there.

Kevin Cormier.

This guy doesn't like Bergfors does he.

I can understand why. He has no future with this organization. He is Andres Solomonnson Part 2. He lacks defensive ability, is not liked by Sutter and even with scoring potential, has not exactly lit it up at either level.

Tedenby is our top offensive prospect by far. And I think Palmieri, Halischuk, Hoeffel (He scores some big goals for Minnesota this season when I have watched the games on FCS) have more upside.

I can see Bergfors being shipped similarly to the way Suglobov was shipped for a veteran D Man at the deadline.

I might get flamed for this, but keep in mind I defended Bergfors and his ability for a long time. I just think it is time to move on as it is apparent he is not going to break out like once thought. At least not with the Devils.

Vasyunov--Swift--Zharkov
Leblond--Vrana or McIntyre--Bergfors
DiSalvatore--Rheaume or Burton--Tallackson
Snetsinger--K. Cormier/Mills--Davis
Tedenby??? Murphy??? Wiseman???

Corrente--Salmela
Leach<-->Eckford
Spiller--Fraser
Cohen or Gunderson or Magnon or Ruggeri


Frazee
Caruso?

Vrana will be gone next year. He was going to leave this year but he broke his leg right before it. So I think your right, McIntyre will replace him IMO.

Comier has never been in the ECHL and most likely will never be there.

wow....do you even bother to read the thread to see who we are even talking about??

I dont understand why everyone is including K. Cormier in their Lowell lineups....Have you guys seen him play? Im a big fan, but he is just not ready...

Vasyunov--Swift--Zharkov
Leblond--Vrana or McIntyre--Bergfors
DiSalvatore--Rheaume or Burton--Tallackson
Snetsinger--K. Cormier/Mills--Davis
Tedenby??? Murphy??? Wiseman???

Corrente--Salmela
Leach<-->Eckford
Spiller--Fraser
Cohen or Gunderson or Magnon or Ruggeri


Frazee
Caruso?

No chance Tedenby is in Lowell next year.

No chance Tedenby is in Lowell next year.

No chance McIntyre is either. Is he a Senior at Colgate? I thought he had a few years left in College.

No chance McIntyre is either. Is he a Senior at Colgate? I thought he had a few years left in College.
Junior.

I can understand why. He has no future with this organization. He is Andres Solomonnson Part 2. He lacks defensive ability, is not liked by Sutter and even with scoring potential, has not exactly lit it up at either level.

Tedenby is our top offensive prospect by far. And I think Palmieri, Halischuk, Hoeffel (He scores some big goals for Minnesota this season when I have watched the games on FCS) have more upside.

I can see Bergfors being shipped similarly to the way Suglobov was shipped for a veteran D Man at the deadline.

I might get flamed for this, but keep in mind I defended Bergfors and his ability for a long time. I just think it is time to move on as it is apparent he is not going to break out like once thought. At least not with the Devils.

This guy lacks defensively.

Tyler Eckford -12
Chad Wiseman -10
Jon DiSalvatore -9

Vasyunov-Swift-Zharkov

Tedenby-McIntyre-Bergfors

Disalvatore-Pelley-Wiseman

Leblond-Rheaume-Halischuk

Salmela-Leach

Eckford-Corrente

Fraser-Spiller

Frazee
Coleman

/pipe dream

Junior.

Damn why did I forget that? :facepalm: He is definitely going to play out his college career before he comes to Lowell.

No chance Tedenby is in Lowell next year.

I thought his contract in Sweden was up at the end of the season clearing the way for him to come over if he wanted to. So I would say there is some chance he'll be here next year.

I might get flamed for this, but keep in mind I defended Bergfors and his ability for a long time. I just think it is time to move on as it is apparent he is not going to break out like once thought. At least not with the Devils.

I can understand why you stand the rest but I'm getting so tired of hearing this from people. First off Euro prospects tend to take longer to develop in the first place. Secondly he's only 22, 23 next month. I think people have just gone stagnant with him since he's been here for four years. If anyone remembers though he wasn't even going to be in the AHL when he first came over. He was set to go to the St. Johns Fog Devils. To me Bergfors has been right on schedule as far as development goes considering he missed most of last season 2 shoulder injuries.

This wasn't directed at you but just in general. I'm ired of peopel writing Bergfors off before he gets a legit shot at the NHL. Although you may be right, his chance may not come with us. honestly I think Halischuk has surpassed him in the eyes of our organization.

I can understand why. He has no future with this organization. He is Andres Solomonnson Part 2. He lacks defensive ability, is not liked by Sutter and even with scoring potential, has not exactly lit it up at either level.

Tedenby is our top offensive prospect by far. And I think Palmieri, Halischuk, Hoeffel (He scores some big goals for Minnesota this season when I have watched the games on FCS) have more upside.

I can see Bergfors being shipped similarly to the way Suglobov was shipped for a veteran D Man at the deadline.

I might get flamed for this, but keep in mind I defended Bergfors and his ability for a long time. I just think it is time to move on as it is apparent he is not going to break out like once thought. At least not with the Devils.

Don't really see the Salomonsson comparison. He was a 27 year old veteran brought in to play at the NHL level immediately. Maybe Christian Berglund from the same period if being Swedish is part of the comparison, otherwise Jason Miller, Jarrod Skalde, Janne Ojanen have had similar careers to his so far.

I can't talk though. Scott Clemmensen always makes me think of Craig Billington but when I analyse it they are really only similar in playing goal for the Devs and having to show a lot of patience.

I can understand why you stand the rest but I'm getting so tired of hearing this from people. First off Euro prospects tend to take longer to develop in the first place. Secondly he's only 22, 23 next month. I think people have just gone stagnant with him since he's been here for four years. If anyone remembers though he wasn't even going to be in the AHL when he first came over. He was set to go to the St. Johns Fog Devils. To me Bergfors has been right on schedule as far as development goes considering he missed most of last season 2 shoulder injuries.

This wasn't directed at you but just in general. I'm ired of peopel writing Bergfors off before he gets a legit shot at the NHL. Although you may be right, his chance may not come with us. honestly I think Halischuk has surpassed him in the eyes of our organization.

edit: he's only 21, 22 next month. :)

edit: he's only 21, 22 next month. :)

Duh I'm an idiot sometimes, ok a lot of times.

Ok, if I were the Decision Maker:

Who I'd Keep: Eckford, Corrente, Vasyunov, Pelley, Disalvatore, Zharkov, Mills, Leblond, Swift, Tallackson, Davis, Halischuk, Ruggeri, Salmela, Frazee

Who I trade now or release at the end of this season: Spiller, Vrana (bc I think he's going back to Europe anyway), Bergfoirs, Gionta, Murphy, Rheaume,

Questionable: Magnan, Fraser, Caruso, Wiseman (injury)

From Trenton to Lowell: Tyler Burton, Ryan Gunderson, Kevin Cormier, Matt Cohen, Coleman

Your turn. Or challenge my decisions. Go.

Interested that you take Ruggeri over Spiller and Fraser. I expect at least one, if not both, of Rheaume and Murphy will be back for veteran continuity. I'd like to see Cohen, Coleman and Snetsinger get a chance, but I think, with potentially several new prospects coming in, it will be important to retain the nucleus of an improving group.

It's a mugs game predicting AHL lineups in advance. Players get better offers in Europe, can find themselves promoted or blocked by happenings in NHL free agency, or superceded by young prospects (draft picks or free agents).

Snetsinger to Lowell.I watch him all the time in Trenton and have nicknamed him "Snetzky". He still looks a bit lazy like Gomez in the defencive zone and at 24 is kinda old to be just a season out of junior.

I sure hope that bergfors stays in the organization. He is in his fourth year of pro hockey. He having a "break out" season. he is only a few points away from his personal best in half the games. With certainplayers being unrestricted I can see him locking up tops six spot

I can't say I know much about our little Devils, but I will say that Bergfors has the offensive ability to make in the NHL level, but he looks kind of lazy on the backcheck at times. It maybe conditioning or size though, but he's just not a solid two-way player yet.

He'll be a 30/70 kind of guy for some team, but at a defensive cost. It most likely will not be the Devils I assume.

Amazing pass from Bergfors to Swift. Damn Bergfors have good hockey sense. :nod: look at the overtime-goal against Worcester 22 feb:

http://ahl.neulion.com/team/console.jsp

I Can't Believe Everyone bullied him???

Amazing pass from Bergfors to Swift. Damn Bergfors have good hockey sense. :nod: look at the overtime-goal against Worcester 22 feb:

http://ahl.neulion.com/team/console.jsp

I Can't Believe Everyone bullied him???

He has a lot of hockey sense, and an extreme amount of talent. And not enough heart to finish out back checks and be a two-player.

Heart can overcome a lack of skill. A lack of heart doesn't belong on the Devils. Just the way they treat themselves...

I'm not sure where you are going with the "heart" comment cowbell. From what I have seen of Bergfors, he tries to win board battles and does back-check, but the dude is seriously weak. He needs to toughen up over the offseason, that's for sure.

I hate the overuse of that word, just as much as "class" on these boards.

Size, heart and class. :shakehead

/rant.

Every time I've watched him play, he's missed some of the little things... going for the puck in the corners, driving to the net, going after the guys in transition.

Like I said before, maybe it's just a conditioning thing or a muscle thing, but he looks nervous in many situations and seems to shy away - at least when he was on the big club. I can't say I watch Lowell games.

I liked his play a lot when he had puck control and some confidence. But he's just missing 'something' at the NHL level to me.

Amazing pass from Bergfors to Swift. Damn Bergfors have good hockey sense. :nod: look at the overtime-goal against Worcester 22 feb:

http://ahl.neulion.com/team/console.jsp

I Can't Believe Everyone bullied him???

I saw the video, it was a great pass. I thought it was cool though that Frazee skated all the way down to the otherside of the rink and joined in on the celebration. He shows alot of emotion when he plays.

Every time I've watched him play, he's missed some of the little things... going for the puck in the corners, driving to the net, going after the guys in transition.

Like I said before, maybe it's just a conditioning thing or a muscle thing, but he looks nervous in many situations and seems to shy away - at least when he was on the big club. I can't say I watch Lowell games.

I liked his play a lot when he had puck control and some confidence. But he's just missing 'something' at the NHL level to me.


Of course he looks nervous. First real NHL-games and give the kid some time. Only a few players from 05 drafts first round is ordinary up there..

If you gonna talk about bust, look at Rob Shremp, Ryan O'Mara :(

Off-topic but what the hell happened to these guys?

Sasha Pokulok - round 1 #14 overall: 11 points in 23 games / Carolina Stingrays ECHL

Ryan O'Marra - round 1 #15 overall: 6 points in 44 games /Springfield Falcons AHL

Alex Bourret - round 1 #16 overall : 14 points in 38 games /San Antonio Rampage AHL

:sarcasm:

wow....do you even bother to read the thread to see who we are even talking about??

I dont understand why everyone is including K. Cormier in their Lowell lineups....Have you guys seen him play? Im a big fan, but he is just not ready...

He is the best fighter in the ECHL. With some work on his balance can be a top guy in the NHL some day.

I do think he starts next season with Trenton but hopefully makes Lowell around the mid-point next year.

He is the best fighter in the ECHL. With some work on his balance can be a top guy in the NHL some day.

I do think he starts next season with Trenton but hopefully makes Lowell around the mid-point next year.

Well Lowell already has PL3 and he's shown a better all around game then Kevin has. Even if he is a good fighter he needs to have other skills to be useful.

wow....do you even bother to read the thread to see who we are even talking about??

I dont understand why everyone is including K. Cormier in their Lowell lineups....Have you guys seen him play? Im a big fan, but he is just not ready...

Instead of getting all bent out of shape maybe you should specify who your talking about.

Amazing pass from Bergfors to Swift. Damn Bergfors have good hockey sense. :nod: look at the overtime-goal against Worcester 22 feb:

http://ahl.neulion.com/team/console.jsp

I Can't Believe Everyone bullied him???

As I've said again and again and again and again, that was his one pass in ten. Watch a full game and he comes down just like that and either before entering the OZ he gives it up on a poor pass or if that little pass to Swift is taken away he puts right into the goalie's chest.

I'm not saying he's a poor player, I'm just saying I don't think he'll be given any more time here. Before Halischuk, he has been sat for not performing. Sutter was not happy with him, and from literally watching him, I'd sit him. He can't check. And I don't mean he won't, he can't. He has a bad shoulder.

Every time I've watched him play, he's missed some of the little things... going for the puck in the corners, driving to the net, going after the guys in transition.

Like I said before, maybe it's just a conditioning thing or a muscle thing, but he looks nervous in many situations and seems to shy away - at least when he was on the big club. I can't say I watch Lowell games.

I liked his play a lot when he had puck control and some confidence. But he's just missing 'something' at the NHL level to me.

Oh I'm so happy someone else knows what I'm talking about.

Instead of getting all bent out of shape maybe you should specify who your talking about.

Lets see.... I DID say Corm needs ANOTHER year of development in the ECHL.....Which I assumed it would be easy to tell that

A: Kevin Cormier is the only one in the ECHL currently....

or

B: You could tell which Corm I was talking about, since the OP named him first as one who would be making the jump to Lowell

Interested that you take Ruggeri over Spiller and Fraser. I expect at least one, if not both, of Rheaume and Murphy will be back for veteran continuity. I'd like to see Cohen, Coleman and Snetsinger get a chance, but I think, with potentially several new prospects coming in, it will be important to retain the nucleus of an improving group.

It's a mugs game predicting AHL lineups in advance. Players get better offers in Europe, can find themselves promoted or blocked by happenings in NHL free agency, or superceded by young prospects (draft picks or free agents).

I like Ruggeri personally, but I think he sits because he doesn't play "the system". I think that's what he started a few games as a forward--they were trying to figure out what to do with him. Last year he played on almost every PP and I watched him improve like crazy. From literally not seeing his open defender on the PP, to bouncing the puck around like, well, like a pro lol. He sits for stretches now, but when he gets in he clearly has some skills.

I know it must be terrifying for these kids to make career choices, but if I were him, I'd be looking to go to a team that would appreciate a very offensive defenseman with a screaming slapshot. I just think its his ice time from last year that has made him a game reader. He takes the puck and doesn't fear going right past guys in the neutral zone. Also, when the puck gets loose in the OZ corner and all the forwards are on the opposite side, he skates in hard and goes for the puck. In the system, they aren't supposed to do that. And because they aren't supposed to, a forward isn't always prepared to roll out to the point. Then they look a bit silly with a guy scrambling back bc Ruggeri is trying to make a play.

Now, choosing him over Fraser--Fraser is good for the NJ system. He plays the system, he is a Defensive Defenseman. But like I said, if I were the manager, I'd want to see some sort of basic offensive abilities. He has a slap shot, but almost no accuracy. I feel any professional defenseman should be able to get his shot on net fairly often.

Also over Spiller because while I feel he has the ability to even be called up to the Big Show, I think he's lazy. He's on sometimes, he's off sometimes. NHLers are on all the time. He's big, he should be using his body much more to take the puck away. He could be a Controller, but I just see nights where he disappears into oblivion. Not making any glaring errors, but not doing anything to make himself stand out either.

Someone was talking about heart earlier. I'd just say it's eagerness, motivation, and recognition that in a Development League, constant hard work will be rewarded. It's what Ruggeri has.

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If Rheaume doesn't retire, I could see him back for another season. I just don't know what his plans are.

I think Murphy is going to be gone for two reasons. One, he is 29-years-old. Two, as of late he has been getting pulled from lineups. I have a feeling that may be a sign that he will be released at the end of the year.

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Remember, a bunch of guys usually move around after each AHL season. So don't be surprised if Lowell replaces 10 spots on the roster. But I think Snetsinger may be getting the "Mondou Adieu" pretty soon.

Without being able to know who will go to NJ, who will be gone, who will be drafted, and who will have an awesome training camp, I think the people we may see in Lowell will be:

Jim Henkel, Nick Palmieri, Trever Kell, Eric Castonguay, Matt Cohen, Gerald Coleman, and Ryan Gunderson


Whew! I type a lot.

Keep: Eckford, Corrente, Pelley, Swift, Tallackson, Davis Halischuk, Salmela, Frazee

trade: vrana

Keep: Eckford, Corrente, Pelley, Swift, Tallackson, Davis Halischuk, Salmela, Frazee

trade: vrana

I think most of those picks are obvious. Vrana won't be traded though. He's injured and he's going back to Europe at the end of the season to play in the Czech Rep

Vasyunov--Swift--Zharkov
Leblond--Vrana or McIntyre--Bergfors
DiSalvatore--Rheaume or Burton--Tallackson
Snetsinger--K. Cormier/Mills--Davis
Tedenby??? Murphy??? Wiseman???

Corrente--Salmela
Leach<-->Eckford
Spiller--Fraser
Cohen or Gunderson or Magnon or Ruggeri


Frazee
Caruso?



I can't believe I forgot about Nick Palmieri. :shakehead I'd love to see Tedenby come over. We shall see.

Also, it would be nice if Vrana stayed, but I kinda doubt it, too. No reason for McIntyre to play his senior season. Lou should sign him.

And I don't know about Mark Fayne. I have a feeling he may not be signed, or if so, will end up in Trenton. Is Fayne going to be a senior?

Ryan Molle could be signed to play in Trenton. Otherwise, I don't see him in our system.

David Caruso could go back to Trenton if we could find another prospect to play with Jeff Frazee. Any ideas who that could be?

I don't know what to say about Rheaume, DiSalvatore, Murphy, and Wiseman. You need some veterans, but are these the right ones?

Jay Leech is a keeper. I hope Anssi stays in North America. If we lose Johnny Oduya to free agency, Salmela could be his eventual replacement IMO.

BTW, I'd be surprised if Pelley and Halischuk don't make the Devils next season out of camp. But if they don't, they won't be in Lowell long.

Just my 2 cents, which is not worth what it once was.

Thank you Bernie Madoff!!!!!!!! :madfire:

I can understand why. He has no future with this organization. He is Andres Solomonnson Part 2. He lacks defensive ability, is not liked by Sutter and even with scoring potential, has not exactly lit it up at either level.

Tedenby is our top offensive prospect by far. And I think Palmieri, Halischuk, Hoeffel (He scores some big goals for Minnesota this season when I have watched the games on FCS) have more upside.

I can see Bergfors being shipped similarly to the way Suglobov was shipped for a veteran D Man at the deadline.

I might get flamed for this, but keep in mind I defended Bergfors and his ability for a long time. I just think it is time to move on as it is apparent he is not going to break out like once thought. At least not with the Devils.

Hoeffel is not ready for Lowell....I've only missed a few Goofups games this year. He has to improve his shot and skating in a big way...Good power forward in the making though....He's going to take a bit longer to develop..

Hoeffel is not ready for Lowell....I've only missed a few Goofups games this year. He has to improve his shot and skating in a big way...Good power forward in the making though....He's going to take a bit longer to develop..

I thought Hoeffel had wheels?

I'm perfectly content with him staying all four years though. We have enough forwards that will be headed to Lowell in the next couple of years.

I thought Hoeffel had wheels?

I'm perfectly content with him staying all four years though. We have enough forwards that will be headed to Lowell in the next couple of years.

I don't want to say he's a bad skater....That's not the case at all. But I think he could improve his stride and also his awareness around the net. These things will come as he matures and takes the next step to Lowell...

DiSalvatore or Tallackson--Swift--Bergfors
Vasyunov--Vrana or McIntyre--Zharkov
Leblond--Mills--Palmieri
Snetsinger--K.Cormier/Burton--Davis
Tedenby???

Corrente--Fraser
Leach<-->Eckford
Spiller--Salmela
Cohen or Magnon or ???

Frazee
Caruso or ???



We need a veteran here and there. Also, any young suspects that Lou might take a chance on, such as Gilbert Brule or Robbie Schremp?

Thanks!!! :handclap:

I don't want to say he's a bad skater....That's not the case at all. But I think he could improve his stride and also his awareness around the net. These things will come as he matures and takes the next step to Lowell...

Yeah I don't think he's going to score a ton of goals in the pros, but he could certainly be good for 15+20 in his prime from the video I've seen of him. He has the physical tools.

I think the people we may see in Lowell will be:

Jim Henkel




.........lol no.

I think some of you guys dont even watch trenton and are just picking names out of a hat.


And to the person who asked what other goaltender we have besides Caruso....Um...Gerald Coleman!!! Duh!

Yeah I don't think he's going to score a ton of goals in the pros, but he could certainly be good for 15+20 in his prime from the video I've seen of him. He has the physical tools.

He has scored some clutch goals for Minny this season in some big games. His skating is fine from what I have seen. He does not have electrifying speed by any means but he can still keep up with the flow of the game and his life off is fine.

I really like him. I am one who thiinks people overhype prospects on this board (not just Devils fans, I am alking as a whole) and I am pretty high on him from what I have seen.

Yeah I don't think he's going to score a ton of goals in the pros, but he could certainly be good for 15+20 in his prime from the video I've seen of him. He has the physical tools.

Definitely. He's already got that big frame and a powerful stride that you like out of a PF.....He's noticeably better this year than his fresh year. Like you alluded to earlier, he should stay with the Gophs for 4 years and really work on his raw skills. Improve his skating and really work on finding those soft areas around the net where you score (see Parise lol).

I think he could definitely blossom into a 25-30=55pts+ guy if we bring him along correctly.

.........lol no.

I think some of you guys dont even watch trenton and are just picking names out of a hat.


And to the person who asked what other goaltender we have besides Caruso....Um...Gerald Coleman!!! Duh!



I admit I have not seen Trenton play and I am taking the word of others, which I don't like to do as a practice.

As for Lowell, I have only seen highlights, which is not fair either. But I do read every Lowell boxscore.

I know about Gerald Coleman. If I remember correctly, he was property of Tampa at one point. I did not see enough of him to form an honest opinion. Do you think Coleman is better than Caruso? Does Coleman have the potential to play in the NHL? I do not see him as the Devils' "goalie of the future" but I may be wrong. I doubt it, but who the heck knows?

BTW, is Jim Henkel eligible for AARP yet? LOL ;)

Sign me up for a Frazee-Coleman platoon next year.

He has scored some clutch goals for Minny this season in some big games. His skating is fine from what I have seen. He does not have electrifying speed by any means but he can still keep up with the flow of the game and his life off is fine.

I really like him. I am one who thiinks people overhype prospects on this board (not just Devils fans, I am alking as a whole) and I am pretty high on him from what I have seen.

Gophers players in general are always hyped up while very few pan out....The love fest for Kessel was mind-boggling and he's just now putting up respectable numbers. Phil still needs to bulk up and improve his corner work or he's going become best friends with the IR.

Vanek was a lazy floater at the U of M.....Trust me, that's putting it lightly. I applaud Buffalo for turning him into a respectable two-way player. The list of golden goofups flops (considering the hype surrounding them) is quite long...

Leopold (referred to by Woog as "the best defenseman I've EVER seen)
Demarchi (Remember that flop of ours?)
Potulny
Rasmussen
Goligoski
Tallackson
Harrington
Guyer
Ballard
Irmen
Hirsch (remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCgqLXc8ZUQ <<that was AFTER the gopher loss in the big show....enormous headcase..)
etc
etc

You're probably thinking to yourself: "Who the **** are most of those guys? All of them were extremely hyped up during their gophs years and were "can't miss."

I'll hold off on Hoeffel until I see how he progresses through this year and his last year or two at the U of M..

Gophers players in general are always hyped up while very few pan out....The love fest for Kessel was mind-boggling and he's just now putting up respectable numbers. Phil still needs to bulk up and improve his corner work or he's going become best friends with the IR.

Vanek was a lazy floater at the U of M.....Trust me, that's putting it lightly. I applaud Buffalo for turning him into a respectable two-way player. The list of golden goofups flops (considering the hype surrounding them) is quite long...

Leopold (referred to by Woog as "the best defenseman I've EVER seen)
Demarchi (Remember that flop of ours?)
Potulny
Rasmussen
Goligoski
Tallackson
Harrington
Guyer
Ballard
Irmen
Hirsch (remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCgqLXc8ZUQ <<that was AFTER the gopher loss in the big show....enormous headcase..)
etc
etc

You're probably thinking to yourself: "Who the **** are most of those guys? All of them were extremely hyped up during their gophs years and were "can't miss."

I'll hold off on Hoeffel until I see how he progresses through this year and his last year or two at the U of M..
Keith Ballard is one of the better defensemen in the NHL.

Gophers players in general are always hyped up while very few pan out....The love fest for Kessel was mind-boggling and he's just now putting up respectable numbers. Phil still needs to bulk up and improve his corner work or he's going become best friends with the IR.

Vanek was a lazy floater at the U of M.....Trust me, that's putting it lightly. I applaud Buffalo for turning him into a respectable two-way player. The list of golden goofups flops (considering the hype surrounding them) is quite long...

Leopold (referred to by Woog as "the best defenseman I've EVER seen)
Demarchi (Remember that flop of ours?)
Potulny
Rasmussen
Goligoski
Tallackson
Harrington
Guyer
Ballard
Irmen
Hirsch (remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCgqLXc8ZUQ <<that was AFTER the gopher loss in the big show....enormous headcase..)
etc
etc

You're probably thinking to yourself: "Who the **** are most of those guys? All of them were extremely hyped up during their gophs years and were "can't miss."

I'll hold off on Hoeffel until I see how he progresses through this year and his last year or two at the U of M..

Goligoski's having a decent year when he's played for the Pens and Ballard is a very good defenseman, but other than that you're right.

Gophers players in general are always hyped up while very few pan out....The love fest for Kessel was mind-boggling and he's just now putting up respectable numbers. Phil still needs to bulk up and improve his corner work or he's going become best friends with the IR.

Vanek was a lazy floater at the U of M.....Trust me, that's putting it lightly. I applaud Buffalo for turning him into a respectable two-way player. The list of golden goofups flops (considering the hype surrounding them) is quite long...

Leopold (referred to by Woog as "the best defenseman I've EVER seen)
Demarchi (Remember that flop of ours?)
Potulny
Rasmussen
Goligoski
Tallackson
Harrington
Guyer
Ballard
Irmen
Hirsch (remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCgqLXc8ZUQ <<that was AFTER the gopher loss in the big show....enormous headcase..)
etc
etc

You're probably thinking to yourself: "Who the **** are most of those guys? All of them were extremely hyped up during their gophs years and were "can't miss."

I'll hold off on Hoeffel until I see how he progresses through this year and his last year or two at the U of M..

Goligoski isn't a bust. He played well enough for a first year dman in Pittsburgh this year. Leopold is a good player if an underachiever. Ballard has been very good for both Phoenix and Florida. I think your showing some of your UND bias.:laugh:

Not to mention Paul Martin went to Minnesota and he's turned out well for us. And I've always had high hopes for Frazee. I like Hoeffel and I hope he does well but my gut tells me he wont be an NHL player.

Let's calm down....

I said, considering the hype each has received, none have lived up to it yet...

Classic, I never said Ballard was a bust, in fact, he throws one of the best hip checks in the league. You should probably refrain from commenting on something you know nothing about. You7'd understand if you grew up around the golden goofups.

Gologoski has a TON of work to do if he wants to become a solid d-man. He's weak in his own end and still hasn't developed those insticts you'd like to see out of a young d-man concerning whether or or not to join the rush...

Leopold is a decent d-man, but he's nowhere near the "potential" that was expected out of him when he left MPLS. I guess you'd just have to be around there...

Goligoski isn't a bust. He played well enough for a first year dman in Pittsburgh this year. Leopold is a good player if an underachiever. Ballard has been very good for both Phoenix and Florida. I think your showing some of your UND bias.:laugh:

Not to mention Paul Martin went to Minnesota and he's turned out well for us. And I've always had high hopes for Frazee. I like Hoeffel and I hope he does well but my gut tells me he wont be an NHL player.

Goligoski is a forward playing defense at this point and Leopold is nowhere near what was expected from him after he left college. The key thing to remember here is I was talking about HYPE. Like I said before, Golden goofups players are always overhyped during their college years/coming out of school....hence why they're drafted high despite being average.

I can't believe I forgot about Nick Palmieri. :shakehead I'd love to see Tedenby come over. We shall see.

Also, it would be nice if Vrana stayed, but I kinda doubt it, too. No reason for McIntyre to play his senior season. Lou should sign him.

And I don't know about Mark Fayne. I have a feeling he may not be signed, or if so, will end up in Trenton. Is Fayne going to be a senior?

Ryan Molle could be signed to play in Trenton. Otherwise, I don't see him in our system.

David Caruso could go back to Trenton if we could find another prospect to play with Jeff Frazee. Any ideas who that could be?

I don't know what to say about Rheaume, DiSalvatore, Murphy, and Wiseman. You need some veterans, but are these the right ones?

Jay Leech is a keeper. I hope Anssi stays in North America. If we lose Johnny Oduya to free agency, Salmela could be his eventual replacement IMO.

BTW, I'd be surprised if Pelley and Halischuk don't make the Devils next season out of camp. But if they don't, they won't be in Lowell long.

Just my 2 cents, which is not worth what it once was.

Thank you Bernie Madoff!!!!!!!! :madfire:

If Wiseman can be healthy, he is an awesome player and could play a lot. He has a long time hip injury that has shortened his last three seasons. Rheaume may return, probably the most likely. Disalvatore is still valuable as a player and not just a veteran.

DiSalvatore or Tallackson--Swift--Bergfors
Vasyunov--Vrana or McIntyre--Zharkov
Leblond--Mills--Palmieri
Snetsinger--K.Cormier/Burton--Davis
Tedenby???

Corrente--Fraser
Leach<-->Eckford
Spiller--Salmela
Cohen or Magnon or ???

Frazee
Caruso or ???



We need a veteran here and there. Also, any young suspects that Lou might take a chance on, such as Gilbert Brule or Robbie Schremp?

Thanks!!! :handclap:

I wouldn't mind seeing Schrempf in Lowell. But that being said, I don't know what playing NJs 'system' would do to him.

I wouldn't mind seeing Schrempf in Lowell. But that being said, I don't know what playing NJs 'system' would do to him.

His head would probably explode. "Team" is not in Schremp's vocabulary.

.........lol no.

I think some of you guys dont even watch trenton and are just picking names out of a hat.


And to the person who asked what other goaltender we have besides Caruso....Um...Gerald Coleman!!! Duh!

In regards to Henkel, my only reason for saying he could make a sighting in Lowell is due to his AHL experience, and that's only if we Lowell has veteran diarrhea and there are two many youngings at the season start. For example, if Rheaume retired, Leach stayed up, Tallackson, Pelley go up, Vrana to Europe, Gionta released, Bergfors traded, Murphy released. I could see him being up for the first 12 games, then Tallackson would be sent down and Henkel would be on a plane to Trenton.

Gophers players in general are always hyped up while very few pan out....The love fest for Kessel was mind-boggling and he's just now putting up respectable numbers. Phil still needs to bulk up and improve his corner work or he's going become best friends with the IR.

Vanek was a lazy floater at the U of M.....Trust me, that's putting it lightly. I applaud Buffalo for turning him into a respectable two-way player. The list of golden goofups flops (considering the hype surrounding them) is quite long...

Leopold (referred to by Woog as "the best defenseman I've EVER seen)
Demarchi (Remember that flop of ours?)
Potulny
Rasmussen
Goligoski
Tallackson
Harrington
Guyer
Ballard
Irmen
Hirsch (remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCgqLXc8ZUQ <<that was AFTER the gopher loss in the big show....enormous headcase..)
etc
etc

You're probably thinking to yourself: "Who the **** are most of those guys? All of them were extremely hyped up during their gophs years and were "can't miss."

I'll hold off on Hoeffel until I see how he progresses through this year and his last year or two at the U of M..

From watching Potulny, he is going to have a decent career. He was lighting up on the Falcs.

here we goes again. Bergfors scores against springfield. First period ended :-) low-spr 1-0.