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Dirk316 02-21-2009, 05:41 PM Yes i am starting an appreciation thread despite all the doom/gloom
Whats not the like with what he's bringing to the table?
He hits, fights, agitates, gets in the faces of opponents, creates scoring chance, goes to the net hard, and is basically the only player who hustles his ass off on every shift
Murrays only good move and he needs to be re-signed
Also wtf has been wrong with Parros lately, new contract = no more trying?
ericnut 02-21-2009, 05:51 PM I have to agree with you DIRK. :handclap:
Only if we could get our skilled players to play with the same heart. :shakehead
The only problem I see with Brown is he should either be bigger or skate better. Because of that he leaves me wanting more. Granted he is only a forth liner and he does hustle, but...
A guy I'd like to see get more games in that role is Troy Bodie. I really like the little we saw of him this year.
On Parros, I think the fight-first team philosophy left with Burke and he's being asked to tone it down.
Pepper 02-21-2009, 06:41 PM On Parros, I think the fight-first team philosophy left with Burke and he's being asked to tone it down.
True. I've said this before but I'll say it again, it seems that the number of points Ducks have been getting has a strong positive correlation with number of fights in Ducks games.
Sevat 02-21-2009, 07:09 PM We haven't played tough "Ducks" hockey all season. I think that is very important to our success the way the team is built.
But sorry for the off-topic comment, Brown has been okay in my opinion. Nothing but a placeholder on the 4th line in my eyes.
Dirk316 02-21-2009, 09:54 PM He is now killing penalties :amazed::yo:
TheJoeMan 02-22-2009, 12:59 PM I have to say, after watching last night's game I was pretty happy with the game of Mike Brown. This is the first time I've had to see him play a whole game and he was solid. Not sure I'd have him in the lineup over Ryan Carter but then again I would have Morrison in lineup over Carter. But he played a good game and I hope he has a lot more just like it.
I've loved the guy since he was a Wolverine. I'm a bit of a joke over on the Canucks board for having made so many trade proposals with him included, over the years. He became the scapegoat for the posters over there to vilify when things weren't going their way, earlier in the year. I never felt it was merited. I don't know how you can't love the guy. Well, actually, now that he's a Duck, I must hate him. :)
Peter Griffin 02-22-2009, 03:02 PM He became the scapegoat for the posters over there to vilify when things weren't going their way, earlier in the year. I never felt it was merited.
Well he took countless stupid penalties and other than fighting, didn't bring much to the table. He's a hard worker and will drop the glove with anyone, but I don't see him ever scoring more than maybe 10 points at the NHL level and even that is probably pushing it. With the Canucks it basically came down to Darcy Hordichuk or Mike Brown and Hordi's got the bigger contract and was the better player for Vancouver.
TheJoeMan 02-22-2009, 07:59 PM Well he took countless stupid penalties and other than fighting, didn't bring much to the table. He's a hard worker and will drop the glove with anyone, but I don't see him ever scoring more than maybe 10 points at the NHL level and even that is probably pushing it. With the Canucks it basically came down to Darcy Hordichuk or Mike Brown and Hordi's got the bigger contract and was the better player for Vancouver.
Funny, watching the game last night I couldn't help but think that Brown looks a lot like Hordichuk and I hate Hordichuk. But if he plays every game like he did last night 10 points would be alright by me. He's just the kind of fourth-liner we've been missing all year.
He's just the kind of fourth-liner we've been missing all year.
Just since we traded May. I gave May a lot of flack early and didn't expect anything out of him this season but he surprised me.
He became the scapegoat for the posters over there to vilify when things weren't going their way, earlier in the year.
I like Mike Brown and wish him well, and really hoped he'd be a solid 4th liner for the Canucks, but he wasn't really a scapegoat. Nobody was blaming the losses on Mike Brown, who played like 3-5 mins a night. It was more of a question of "why the hell is this guy in the lineup and/or on the team?" He was flat-out really bad in Vancouver this year. He didn't hit all that much, he handled the puck like it was on fire and shooting laser beams at him, his fights were of the "grab on and try to get a takedown ASAP" variety which doesn't really fire up the team, and yet they exposed players to waivers in order to keep him around. It wasn't so much scapegoating him as it was questioning why management were protecting him from waivers instead of other players when he wasn't getting into games, and I mean, hell, they ended up trading him for a guy they waived earlier in the year.
Oddly enough, I was just popping in here to start a thread asking how Brown was doing. He has the pieces to be a decent 4th liner, and showed some of them at times, and his work ethic was never a problem. I'm glad to see that he seems to be doing at least better than he was up here.
Scapegoat was the wrong word. Whipping boy, or punching bag would've been more apt.
muskiefish 02-23-2009, 04:51 PM Scapegoat was the wrong word. Whipping boy, or punching bag would've been more apt.
I think he uses his speed well when killing penalties but he should learn how to shoot from Bobby or Teemu cuz he had a few chances in the CBJ game, we didnt need those goals that night but we will down the line. However i also agree that he wont be much of a point getter for us maybe 5 goals 10 assists i feel that would be a good season for him.
SelKesler 02-23-2009, 07:56 PM Mike "Leg Grapple" Brown
galiano 03-01-2009, 05:54 PM Mike " The Grappler " Brown it is. He doesn't fight ...... he grapples ! !
Dirk316 03-01-2009, 10:13 PM So far he's been willing to go toe to toe and most everything you Vancouver fans have said about Brown is the opposite. Either you guys hate physical players or have a coach that discourage it
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Avery4Byng 03-02-2009, 02:33 AM I always liked Brown in Vancouver, probably because I like scrappy fourth liners. But his fights became jokes and he fell out of the picture in Van. Nice to see him getting some love in Anaheim.
1manband 03-02-2009, 07:14 PM If he were to get a bit more responsible defensively can anyone else see him earning a spot on the 3rd checking line if it were to come available?? He is quite willing to hit everything in sight, is that not what you want from that line?
Lyons71 03-02-2009, 08:53 PM I must say, I don't usually like these appreciation threads, but Brown deserves it. I love him. Glad the ducks have some spark... sadly it's just one player.
Dirk316 03-02-2009, 11:34 PM If he were to get a bit more responsible defensively can anyone else see him earning a spot on the 3rd checking line if it were to come available?? He is quite willing to hit everything in sight, is that not what you want from that line?
He hasnt looked out of place on the PK
Ducksforcup 03-03-2009, 11:00 PM Mike Brown in the Chicago game has almost scored three times including splitting the entire Chicago defense by myself and only getting stopped by a great poke check from Huet.
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Mr. Canucklehead 03-09-2009, 03:48 PM So far he's been willing to go toe to toe and most everything you Vancouver fans have said about Brown is the opposite. Either you guys hate physical players or have a coach that discourage it
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I really, really liked Brown on the Canucks in 07/08. Him, Rypien and McIver came up from the Moose and despite the obvious holes in their games, came out and played hard, physical hockey. They wore their hearts on their sleeves and defended their teammates.
Brown was a maniac as a fighter last year. He'd go toe-to-toe and he'd often win as well.
Now 08/09 on the Canucks was another story...seriously, youtube his fights in a Canucks jersey this year. It was infuriating--he ALWAYS went for the leg takedown. His fights were not energetic or inspiring as they were last season, he was just going for a quick takedown. The best example I can think of was when he fought Moen on the Ducks--youtube it(it's funny). Brown went for a leg takedown and Moen looked at him like he was nuts--and then proceeded to do exactly that to Brown(the leg takedown). My buddies and I were hysterical.
On the Moose in the AHL, Brown was a top PK guy, so that was an underrated asset to his game. He was never really tried on the PK in Van.
I wish him well as he was a good lockerroom guy and a hard worker. And it's good to hear he has gotten back to his roots of fighting toe-to-toe. But a lot of Canuck fan frustration with him this year came from the fighting takedowns, and the fact that he was retained on the roster over a much better player in Matt Pettinger, who was claimed by Tampa.
~Canucklehead~
BrondbyDK 03-09-2009, 06:12 PM 18 minutes last night. I can't believe it, this is really Mike Brown?
nuckfan in TO 03-11-2009, 01:56 PM So far he's been willing to go toe to toe and most everything you Vancouver fans have said about Brown is the opposite. Either you guys hate physical players or have a coach that discourage it
how about neither??
canuck fans love physical players... the coach loves physical hockey (and actually scratched O'Brien for a few games this year because he was criticized by both the coach and GM for not playing physically enough)... the canucks are one of the most physical teams in the NHL right now as well.
But, in all my years of following hockey, I'd have to say that Brown (at least the 08/09 version on the canucks) was about the most useless hockey player I've come across... it's great for him that he's playing better in Anaheim, and maybe he feels more comfortable there, or maybe he's just playing over his head right now... but the Mike Brown we had on the canucks was useless... he was a liability everytime he was on the ice... all he could do was fight - and if he didn't get into a fight within the first few seconds of his shift, he'll usually be directly responsible for a goal against or a high quality scoring chance.
Hopefully he keeps it up for you guys... but I like said, in my 30+years of following hockey, the Mike Brown we saw earlier this year in Vancouver was among the worst hockey players I've come across... yea, he works hard, and he's actually a good skater (does have good straight ahead speed), but his hockey sense is non-existent, his hands are worse than stone, and he really isn't even that great a fighter either.
personally, I'm glad he's gone... and good for him to find a team he could fit on and play some better hockey.
Heavy Hussar 03-11-2009, 03:01 PM I really like his speed. It is nice to have such a fast checker.
PoolChamp 03-11-2009, 04:01 PM Wow a Mike Brown Appreciation thread. I couldn't imaging seeing this on the Canucks board. He must have come a long way since being traded. Brown as a Canuck was one of the worst hockey players I have seen in a while.
lux_interior 03-13-2009, 02:13 AM I like him too. Reminds me a little of Mike Leclerc...only you know, Brown doesn't quit on the team.
Paul4587 03-13-2009, 02:22 AM Leclerc could put up 20 goals and 40 + points though, at his best was a top 6 foward where as Brown will probably struggle to put up 10 goals, although he doesn't look out of place on the third line.
When did Leclerc quit on the team btw? He got traded to Phoenix then Calgary, how is that quitting on the team? Whatever happened to Leclerc after the 05-06 season anyway?
lux_interior 03-13-2009, 02:38 AM In the '03-'04 season. The details are a little fuzzy, but he kind of packed it in when the team sucked. But I guess you can't blame him too much, because the team....sucked.
I think his knees did in his career.
Spankatola Jamnuts 03-13-2009, 04:30 AM Brown will never score much of anything because he makes bad decisions with the puck, and he has confidence in abilities he doesn't posses, like deking and passing. He's a straight up and down, crash the net, piss people off type. You give him a puck and he's trouble the wrong way.
Mooseduck 03-26-2009, 01:18 AM Brown had a solid hit on a Av newbie tonight. Nice job.
Finnpin 03-26-2009, 03:36 AM Brown had a solid hit on a Av newbie tonight. Nice job.That was very nice bomb! I had to repeat it 4-5 times :laugh:
Brown, what a steal from the Nucks.
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