Your ideal Ducks summer moves.

regardless of what happens the rest of this season, what would you ideally hope the Ducks do this offseason (try to be realistic!).

Here's my plan:

Pending UFAs / RFAs

Brett Festerling: New three-year deal at $800K/year
Mike Brown: New one-year deal at $550K
Steve Montador: New two-year deal at $1.15M/year
Todd Marchant: New one-year deal at $1.4M
Scott Niedermayer: New one-year deal at $6M

Brendan Morrison: Gone
Rob Niedermayer: Gone
Samuel Pahlsson: Gone
Travis Moen: Gone
Bret Hedican: Gone
Kent Huskins: Gone
Francois Beauchemin - Gone

UFA Signings
Ian Laperriere: two-year deal at $1.5M/year
Matt Pettinger: one-year deal at $600K
Jay Bouwmeester: four-year deal at $7M/year

New Roster

Kunitz - Getzlaf - Perry ($14.375M)
Ryan - Ebbett - Selanne ($5.047M)
Miller - Carter - Laperriere ($2.65M)
Pettinger - Marchant - Parros ($2.875M)
Brown ($0.55M)

Pronger - Montador ($7.4M)
Niedermayer - Brookbank ($6.5M)
Bouwmeester - Festerling ($7.8M)
Evans ($575)

Giguere - Hiller ($7.3M)

Bertuzzi Buyout: $1.333M

Total Cap Hit: $56.40M

regardless of what happens the rest of this season, what would you ideally hope the Ducks do this offseason (try to be realistic!).

Here's my plan:

Pending UFAs / RFAs

Brett Festerling: New three-year deal at $800K/year
Mike Brown: New one-year deal at $550K
Steve Montador: New two-year deal at $1.15M/year
Todd Marchant: New one-year deal at $1.4M
Scott Niedermayer: New one-year deal at $6M

Brendan Morrison: Gone
Rob Niedermayer: Gone
Samuel Pahlsson: Gone
Travis Moen: Gone
Bret Hedican: Gone
Kent Huskins: Gone
Francois Beauchemin - Gone

UFA Signings
Ian Laperriere: two-year deal at $1.5M/year
Matt Pettinger: one-year deal at $600K
Jay Bouwmeester: four-year deal at $7M/year

New Roster

Kunitz - Getzlaf - Perry ($14.375M)
Ryan - Ebbett - Selanne ($5.047M)
Miller - Carter - Laperriere ($2.65M)
Pettinger - Marchant - Parros ($2.875M)
Brown ($0.55M)

Pronger - Montador ($7.4M)
Niedermayer - Brookbank ($6.5M)
Bouwmeester - Festerling ($7.8M)
Evans ($575)

Giguere - Hiller ($7.3M)

Bertuzzi Buyout: $1.333M

Total Cap Hit: $56.40M

Not bad except Miller, would rather see them resign Moen instead of Marchant as well

I think you've overpaid Marchant and Festerling and underpaid Niedermayer and Montador. I highly doubt Bouwmeester signs here, as other teams will be throwing more than $7 million at him.

That team on paper looks pretty good though.

Not bad except Miller, would rather see them resign Moen instead of Marchant as well

Some of the guys I would have liked to re-sign better too, but I took into consideration what other teams might throw at them and I think some teams might overpay for Moen/Pahlsson/beauchemin...so I tried to work it out where we could fit in Bouwmeester (if he'd accept $7M)

I think you've overpaid Marchant and Festerling and underpaid Niedermayer and Montador. I highly doubt Bouwmeester signs here, as other teams will be throwing more than $7 million at him.

That team on paper looks pretty good though.

Yeah I guess it depends what Bouw values; other teams might offer 7.5 even up to the max, but he could have one year with a stacked team and a legit Cup shot, then get to takeover as their #1 D man if he signed with Anaheim.

As for Niedermayer, I think if he doesn't retire, $6M is fair as he owes us for screwing us over when he was mr. indecision LOL (plus look at the discount Teemu took, I don't really see Scott as a very greedy guy).

Sammy is pretty important to the club and Id rather not let him go, though he may get some ridiculous offers.

Ducks will most likely not be spending to the cap. But, then again, I guess this is "ideal", where I would a agree with most of your moves.

Interesting choice of Lapierriere. He's one of those players I don't think much about during the season, but he could be a very serviceable player for two years. If Marchant is played only on the fourth line, I'd be happy with that. I'd love Bouwmeester to sign with us, even if other teams will most likely throw all kinds of money at him. He'll probably take those offers over ours, but then again, I wouldn't say its impossible for the Ducks to land him.

Overall not a bad roster.

Sammy is pretty important to the club and Id rather not let him go, though he may get some ridiculous offers.

Agree completely, but I can see someone throwing 3-4M at him (hey maybe even Burke) which I wouldn't pay with our current team.

I think to get Bouwmeester at that length of contract you'd have to offer closer to 10M.

I doubt Niedermayer would ever take less than Bouwmeester who (as much as I like him) has accomplished zilch really and you are essentially paying a ton for potential because he is certainly not a 7M/yr player right now.

I think to get Bouwmeester at that length of contract you'd have to offer closer to 10M.

At that price I get someone cheaper and maybe devote money to 2nd line C instead...

Not trying to be a kill joy, but I don't think there's any chance of having Bouwmeester, Pronger, and S.Niedermayer on the same team. To much salary in 3 defensemen. It'd be awesome, but I don't ever expect us to invest so much into 3 defensemen again.

Not trying to be a kill joy, but I don't think there's any chance of having Bouwmeester, Pronger, and S.Niedermayer on the same team. To much salary in 3 defensemen. It'd be awesome, but I don't ever expect us to invest so much into 3 defensemen again.

It would only be for one season assuming Nieds would then retire and free that $6M back up. Pronger would also be UFA then unless he wants to re-sign here.

I think with the emergence of Ryan and Selanne being cheap they can afford to do so for just one year as their secondary scoring isn't costing them much.

All i care about is we need cap space in the 2010 offseason to go after Rick Nash.

As for JayBo, i'd offer him 8 years, 52 mil for a 6.5 cap hit. If it's not enough, look at other options.

Marchant 1.4M?? Yikes!

I agree with Bonkers, throw a long-term contract at Jaybo and hope for the best.

Ideal situation: trade both Pronger and Niedermayer and then sign Jaybo. That would be fantastic asset management for the long term.

Uh... If Rob Nied doesnt come back then I doubt Scott will be back... They come in a package.

I think these are the guys that we need to look into:
1. Lappy or Neil @ 2-3 years for 1.2-1.5 million per year
2. Oduya or Ohlund @ 3 years for 2-3 million per year
3. Saku Koivu (Selanne's buddy) @ 1 yr for 3 million
4. Sign a cheap/young offensive forward with upside - i.e. Kopechky/Fedotenko
5. Jay B - I read that he might go to Edmonton, but why would he want the pressure? He's a quite leader and Cali fit well for Pronger so he might like it too... But we would only be able to sign him if we traded Pronger of if Scotty doesnt resign...

I'd like the ducks to roll three offensive lines to get a better offensive flow instead of being a dump and chase team:

Kunitz/Getz/Perry
Fedotenko/Koivu/Selanne
Ryan/Ebbet/Lappy
Parros/Rob/Moen - I have a feeling GOD might sign with a team like the Red Wings
13th man: Carter

Scotty/Beau - Hopefuly Franki signs for 4 yrs @ ~12 million, but he might follow the $
Pronger/Oduya - Prongs normally plays with a tough partner, but I really want to see the ducks be ethnically diverse... plus oduya is underrated... 3 yrs @ 7.5 million

Fester/Mikkelson/Mitera/Brookbank can all battle for the final 2 spots... doesnt matter since the top 4 will each up 46-50 out of 60 minutes a game. But they have to bring intangibles... like physical presence/leadership/speed.

I dont want to see Monty back even if he is having a statistally good yr and a good community guy... he should be band from fighting... Kuskins will probably sign elsewhere...

Uh... If Rob Nied doesnt come back then I doubt Scott will be back... They come in a package.

I'm not so sure of that anymore, they won their Cup together and got to spend a lot of time together, I don't think they are as joined at the hip especially if it's just one more year for Scott before retiring.


I think these are the guys that we need to look into:
1. Lappy or Neil @ 2-3 years for 1.2-1.5 million per year
2. Oduya or Ohlund @ 3 years for 2-3 million per year
3. Saku Koivu (Selanne's buddy) @ 1 yr for 3 million
4. Sign a cheap/young offensive forward with upside - i.e. Kopechky/Fedotenko
5. Jay B - I read that he might go to Edmonton, but why would he want the pressure? He's a quite leader and Cali fit well for Pronger so he might like it too... But we would only be able to sign him if we traded Pronger of if Scotty doesnt resign...


Koivu and Oduya are two guys I thought about trying to get instead of Bouwmeester or if Scott retires this season, however I think your offers are a bit of a lowball to both compared to what other teams might throw at them (plus I think Anaheim may be third on Koivu's list after staying in MTl and perhaps Minny)

Active spring/summer for the Ducks in 09.

Defense
-Trade Pronger for a package around Alzner/Carlson/Parent or the like
-Re-sign Scotty for 1 year @ 6M
-Go after Jaybo, 7M short term, 6.5M long term. Should it not be enough, go for Morris or Ohlund at 5M per year
-Sign Ossi Vaananen 3 years 1.3M per year.
-Trade a 3rd for SOB, sign 2 years 1.1 per year.

Offense
Work out a trade around Kunitz for Vermette
Sign Mike Knuble 1 year 3.3M
Sign Chris Neil 3 years 1.5M per
Re-sign Rob 2y/3M

Knuble-Getzlaf-Perry =14M
Ryan-Ebbett-Selanne =5.05M
Neil-Vermette-Rob =5.8M
Beleskey-Carter-Parros =2.2M

Total Offense =~27M

Vaananen-JayBo 8.3M (Jaybo @7)
Scotty-"Alzner" 7.7M
SOB-Mikkelson 1.9M

Total Defense =~18M

Giggy/Hiller 7.4M

Team total=52.4

Next year, Teemu, Scotty, Knuble -> Nash, Ryan (raise), Tangradi, Mitera.

I think these are the guys that we need to look into:
1. Lappy or Neil @ 2-3 years for 1.2-1.5 million per year
2. Oduya or Ohlund @ 3 years for 2-3 million per year
3. Saku Koivu (Selanne's buddy) @ 1 yr for 3 million
4. Sign a cheap/young offensive forward with upside - i.e. Kopechky/Fedotenko
5. Jay B - I read that he might go to Edmonton, but why would he want the pressure? He's a quite leader and Cali fit well for Pronger so he might like it too... But we would only be able to sign him if we traded Pronger of if Scotty doesnt resign...


No way any of those guys sign for that low, especially Ohlund and Koivu. I would think Ohlund should get 5 mill easily, if not more.

No way any of those guys sign for that low, especially Ohlund and Koivu. I would think Ohlund should get 5 mill easily, if not more.

Koivu may come for that, but we'd have to get Teemu to try and sweet-talk him into coming here for that amount. I think he'll probably re-up with the Habs though. Ohlund I agree will be getting upwards of 4 or 5 milion, we'd probably have to offer about that to get him.

Active spring/summer for the Ducks in 09.

Defense
-Trade Pronger for a package around Alzner/Carlson/Parent or the like
-Re-sign Scotty for 1 year @ 6M
-Go after Jaybo, 7M short term, 6.5M long term. Should it not be enough, go for Morris or Ohlund at 5M per year
-Sign Ossi Vaananen 3 years 1.3M per year.
-Trade a 3rd for SOB, sign 2 years 1.1 per year.

Offense
Work out a trade around Kunitz for Vermette
Sign Mike Knuble 1 year 3.3M
Sign Chris Neil 3 years 1.5M per
Re-sign Rob 2y/3M

Knuble-Getzlaf-Perry =14M
Ryan-Ebbett-Selanne =5.05M
Neil-Vermette-Rob =5.8M
Beleskey-Carter-Parros =2.2M

Total Offense =~27M

Vaananen-JayBo 8.3M (Jaybo @7)
Scotty-"Alzner" 7.7M
SOB-Mikkelson 1.9M

Total Defense =~18M

Giggy/Hiller 7.4M

Team total=52.4

Next year, Teemu, Scotty, Knuble -> Nash, Ryan (raise), Tangradi, Mitera.


Are you serious? Rob for 3 million a season?
No thanks, hes overpaid at 2 million.
The only reason why he got that much was because of Scott being here. If scotts gone Rob is gone!
Why not resign Sammi for 3 million a season? Hes twice the player Rob is.
I do like the signing of Neil though. And of course Jay B would be the best young Defensemen we had had in franchise histoy.
I dont have for Knuble signing either. Ryan will be playing with Getz and Perry from now on and we ave Kunitz and Teemu who need a fast player possibly Ebbett but I'd like to see Cammallari, Franzen or Saku Koivu ( who could come at a bargain for one season.

Are you serious? Rob for 3 million a season?
No thanks, hes overpaid at 2 million.
The only reason why he got that much was because of Scott being here. If scotts gone Rob is gone!
Why not resign Sammi for 3 million a season? Hes twice the player Rob is.
I do like the signing of Neil though. And of course Jay B would be the best young Defensemen we had had in franchise histoy.
I dont have for Knuble signing either. Ryan will be playing with Getz and Perry from now on and we ave Kunitz and Teemu who need a fast player possibly Ebbett but I'd like to see Cammallari, Franzen or Saku Koivu ( who could come at a bargain for one season.
-Should be obvious enough i meant 3 for the whole contract, 1.5 per year. 5.8-2.8-1.5=1.5 (3rd line cap hit minus the cap hits of Neil and Vermette = cap hit of Rob).

-Rob was here before Scott. I see no reason he'd be gone the moment Scott is. He might but to say for sure he's gone if Scott is is silly. Unless you're Bob Murray, which you are not

-Ryan won't be playing with Getz. If that happens, we have zero secondary scoring, zero. It won't happen.

-Cammalleri, Franzen, Koivu will all be 5+ million players if they hit open market. 2nd line is not where i'd use 5+ mil if it's not for a truly dominant player (Ryan in the future).

I think a top two lines of Kunitz-Getz-perry and Ryan-ebbet-selanne would be amazing... Even this season.

Bouwmeester should be top priority as far as out of town free agents go. Theoretically, the team can offer him the years and money needed, in addition to California having a similar climate as Florida.

Having said that, like others have said, I don't think that the Ducks invest that much money in 3 defensemen again. Getting Jay is predicated on one of Pronger or Scott leaving.

EDIT: God I hate seeing that cap hit for Bertuzzi still on the books. Thank goodness it will be gone after next season is over.

EDIT: God I hate seeing that cap hit for Bertuzzi still on the books. Thank goodness it will be gone after next season is over.

Thank you Brian Burke!
Its lovely to watch Bertuzzi score while we are writing a majority of his check to score against us!

If Scott stays Rob is staying, also I'd go after Komisarek instead of Bouwmeester in that case, better value and fit

If Scott stays Rob is staying, also I'd go after Komisarek instead of Bouwmeester in that case, better value and fit

I don't think Komisarek's going to be a "value" free agent. He'll get less than Bouwmeester, and maybe that's what you're saying, but he's going to get some pretty major offers.

Bouwmeester and Niedermayer may seem a bit redundent for the first season, but surely Niedermayer retires after next season, and I'd far rather have Bouwmeester as my number 1, rather than Komisarek.

If Scott stays Rob is staying, also I'd go after Komisarek instead of Bouwmeester in that case, better value and fit

I love komisareks game and would love to get him on the team but I think he will get a long term contract at 4-5 million

I don't think Komisarek's going to be a "value" free agent. He'll get less than Bouwmeester, and maybe that's what you're saying, but he's going to get some pretty major offers.

Bouwmeester and Niedermayer may seem a bit redundent for the first season, but surely Niedermayer retires after next season, and I'd far rather have Bouwmeester as my number 1, rather than Komisarek.
yeah but it's clear we need a defensive defensemen and Bouwmeesters dad hates non traditional hockey markets, so Jay may be the same.

You know who might be an interesting move during the summer.
If we could make it happen what about getting the Sedin twins?
ryan-getz-perry
sedin-sedin-teemu
moen-pahlsson-carter
parros-marchant-miller
We trade away Kunitz that clears enough to get most of one of the sedins under contract.
I never thought about this kind of move til last night. I think it could really make 2 great lines that can put up a lot of points.

You know who might be an interesting move during the summer.
If we could make it happen what about getting the Sedin twins?
ryan-getz-perry
sedin-sedin-teemu
moen-pahlsson-carter
parros-marchant-miller
We trade away Kunitz that clears enough to get most of one of the sedins under contract.
I never thought about this kind of move til last night. I think it could really make 2 great lines that can put up a lot of points.

Sedins will each get 5.5mil+ a year.

You know who might be an interesting move during the summer.
If we could make it happen what about getting the Sedin twins?
ryan-getz-perry
sedin-sedin-teemu
moen-pahlsson-carter
parros-marchant-miller
We trade away Kunitz that clears enough to get most of one of the sedins under contract.
I never thought about this kind of move til last night. I think it could really make 2 great lines that can put up a lot of points.

No way. The Sedins are overrated. Not to mention they will both want to play together with big contracts. With the exception of 2nd line center, our top 2 lines are fine.

Kunitz-Getzlaf-Perry
Ryan-FA-Selanne

It's the defense that needs to be addressed more then anything. This year has made that even more evident.

You know who might be an interesting move during the summer.
If we could make it happen what about getting the Sedin twins?
ryan-getz-perry
sedin-sedin-teemu
moen-pahlsson-carter
parros-marchant-miller
We trade away Kunitz that clears enough to get most of one of the sedins under contract.
I never thought about this kind of move til last night. I think it could really make 2 great lines that can put up a lot of points.
I don't think the team has the cap room to add the Sedins. They've got more pressing needs at D.