ericnut
02-04-2009, 05:36 PM
http://ducks.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=407770
Ducks Acquire Brown for McIverericnut 02-04-2009, 05:36 PM http://ducks.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=407770 Kid_Roll 02-04-2009, 05:52 PM Canuck fan here. Last year Mike Brown was better than Jeff Cowan. Hence people began to like him. Because Jeff Cowan was god awful. He also threw hits last year and fought properly. This year? Mike Brown regressed. He sadly started playing like Jeff Cowan. He still has great great north/south speed (was 2nd in our fastest skater skills comp) but all his fights this year have been him doing the Stortini special of hugging a guy and trying to do MMA style single leg takedowns/leg sweeps of his opponents. It doesn't really spark the team watching him hug someone then try and make love to them on the ice. Anyways, you will see much joy on the Canucks board of Brown being gone, but most of that is because for some reason we held on to him and refused to send him to the minors for no apparent reason ALL SEASON LONG so he became kind of an inside joke on the boards. As a Ducks fan you should know: In a limited role, on the 4th line, he has the potential to throw a lot of hits and be a decent middleweight. Assuming he plays like he did last year. Where Brown struggles? Anytime the puck is in the defensive zone he looks like he is wandering in circles confused and frightened. He also falls for the fake shot trick all the time. So yeah, the trade is minimal at best, I just thought I would let you know about your new player. topher0805 02-04-2009, 05:54 PM Mike Brown is ALWAYS a liability when on the ice. Just so you know. ;) ericnut 02-04-2009, 06:06 PM Canuck fan here. Last year Mike Brown was better than Jeff Cowan. Hence people began to like him. Because Jeff Cowan was god awful. He also threw hits last year and fought properly. This year? Mike Brown regressed. He sadly started playing like Jeff Cowan. He still has great great north/south speed (was 2nd in our fastest skater skills comp) but all his fights this year have been him doing the Stortini special of hugging a guy and trying to do MMA style single leg takedowns/leg sweeps of his opponents. It doesn't really spark the team watching him hug someone then try and make love to them on the ice. Anyways, you will see much joy on the Canucks board of Brown being gone, but most of that is because for some reason we held on to him and refused to send him to the minors for no apparent reason ALL SEASON LONG so he became kind of an inside joke on the boards. As a Ducks fan you should know: In a limited role, on the 4th line, he has the potential to throw a lot of hits and be a decent middleweight. Assuming he plays like he did last year. Where Brown struggles? Anytime the puck is in the defensive zone he looks like he is wandering in circles confused and frightened. He also falls for the fake shot trick all the time. So yeah, the trade is minimal at best, I just thought I would let you know about your new player. Thanks for the update. I'm a little confused as to what the Ducks are up to. I have a feeling they could be bringing in a solid #4 defenseman. Paul4587 02-04-2009, 06:13 PM I'm confused also. I thought Iowa needed defensemen, hence why McIver was sent there? Will Brown stay in Anaheim or be sent to Iowa? I still don't even get why we waived McIver to make room for Brookbank to begin with. Kodachrome 02-04-2009, 06:19 PM I'm confused also. I thought Iowa needed defensemen, hence why McIver was sent there? Will Brown stay in Anaheim or be sent to Iowa? In all seriousness, you better ****ing hope that he's in Iowa, and for good. After finally drawing into the Canucks' lineup the other night after an extended stay in the pressbox, one of his first (and last) shifts of the game saw him commit a heinous giveaway right in front of the net (coincidentally, that's where the puck ended up). I hope for your sake that he returns to the potential he showed last year (as a gritty energy guy), but so far this year he has been one of the worst players to ever don a Canuck jersey, and that's really saying something. ericnut 02-04-2009, 06:22 PM I'm confused also. I thought Iowa needed defensemen, hence why McIver was sent there? Will Brown stay in Anaheim or be sent to Iowa? I still don't even get why we waived McIver to make room for Brookbank to begin with. I have a feeling Brookbank will be better then Mikkelson and McIver. Heavy Hussar 02-04-2009, 07:05 PM Lets all hope he's at least better than the last Mike Brown we got from Vancouver. Ol' huggy bear fight stylings. Paul4587 02-04-2009, 07:11 PM I have a feeling Brookbank will be better then Mikkelson and McIver. He won the Eddie Shore trophy in the AHL in 2006-07. I have no idea how because from what I've seen of him at the NHL level his offensive game leaves alot to be desired, but hopefully he'll show signs of why he won the award a few years ago. Randall Graves* 02-04-2009, 07:22 PM Canuck fans are bitter people. The ducks know how to put people in roles, he'll be fine with us, thanks Canuck fans. Dirk316 02-04-2009, 07:38 PM nobody cares what HFboards Canucks fans think of him id rather see for myself. Its funny how they scapegoat a borderline 4th line energy player. Imo he will alternate with Drew Miller depending on how tough the opposing team is and Parros will have a permanent starting spot. SopelFan 02-04-2009, 07:42 PM Put him in a role? He played on the 4th line a few minutes a game... what other role are the Ducks going to put him in? We hated him because we waived Pettinger, Wellwood, Jaffray and McIver to retain him. Kid_Roll 02-04-2009, 07:49 PM nobody cares what HFboards Canucks fans think of him id rather see for myself. Its funny how they scapegoat a borderline 4th line energy player. Imo he will alternate with Drew Miller depending on how tough the opposing team is and Parros will have a permanent starting spot. No one scapegoated him. Find one post that says "Oh man, this 8 game losing streak, it's all Mike Brown's fault" Brown is a role player, everyone on our board knows it. He just regressed a lot from last year. Not to say he can't play better for you guys, but on the Canucks, he wasn't that good and we waived better players in order to keep him around. Hence some of the negativity you will see surrounding him from our boards. Sevat 02-04-2009, 08:02 PM To the Ducks fans saying "thanks but no thanks" to Canucks fans... Get off your high horse. They were cool enough to drop by and give their insight as a fellow hockey fan. Dirk316 02-04-2009, 08:07 PM No one scapegoated him. Find one post that says "Oh man, this 8 game losing streak, it's all Mike Brown's fault" Brown is a role player, everyone on our board knows it. He just regressed a lot from last year. Not to say he can't play better for you guys, but on the Canucks, he wasn't that good and we waived better players in order to keep him around. Hence some of the negativity you will see surrounding him from our boards. Does the Vancouver coach encourage a physical game? If Brown could provide some hitting, agitating and an occasional fight we could use him ericnut 02-04-2009, 08:08 PM Canuck fans are bitter people. The ducks know how to put people in roles, he'll be fine with us, thanks Canuck fans. Why would they be bitter? They have wanted to get rid of Brown forever! Mooseduck 02-04-2009, 08:10 PM Wow, I never thought a Mike Brown thread could be this long. Thanks for the insight. Spankatola Jamnuts 02-04-2009, 08:17 PM Does the Vancouver coach encourage a physical game? If Brown could provide some hitting, agitating and an occasional fight we could use him I don't think Vignault encourages much of anything. He's always seemed a bit haphazard and lost to me. Given their recent comments to the media I think the Canuck players are equally confused. Randall Graves* 02-04-2009, 08:47 PM To the Ducks fans saying "thanks but no thanks" to Canucks fans... Get off your high horse. They were cool enough to drop by and give their insight as a fellow hockey fan. Whenever there is a game vs the Canucks, rest assured they will invade our game threads and start crying, sorry if I'm not spreading my girlfriends legs for them. Bobby Smash 02-04-2009, 08:49 PM am i the only one that kind of feels uncomfortable with bob murray as the gm? when ever burke made a trade, regardless of how it looked on paper at the moment i felt comfortable. even when brian murray was the gm, i felt good with what ever he did. snarktacular 02-04-2009, 08:59 PM 6 foot, 210 pound enforcer wannabe? Seems a little smallish to me. Whatever, you can't expect much for someone who just cleared waivers. TheJoeMan 02-04-2009, 09:03 PM What's to feel uncomfortable about? We get a spare forward for nothing. I'm stoked we got at least something for McIver since we got him for free. If Brown puts in even one good game this is a good trade. I think he'll fit into our system better than Vancouver's. When Sammy's healthy he'll probably be waived and sent to Iowa or picked by someone else. This is really as low risk a trade you can make. No prospects moved, no picks moved and acquired for someone we got for nothing. hockeydemon05 02-04-2009, 09:03 PM Thanks Nucks fans for your insight...(no really, we appreciate it) I think it's a win-win for both. Brown wasn't doing anything in Van, and McIver...well I don't think I heard his name more then twice down here. But as Snark said, for a guy who cleared waivers...he shouldn't be doing too much. I'll hold judgment until I actually see what he can do in this system though. MW 02-04-2009, 09:04 PM Does the Vancouver coach encourage a physical game? If Brown could provide some hitting, agitating and an occasional fight we could use him That's just about all they've asked of him. He's had a few games where he has been a physical presence, but not too many. His fights have consisted of hugging and trying to get a takedown at the earliest opportunity. On top of that, he has managed, despite playing a very minor role, to have his play in his own end be so bad that it stands out like a sore thumb. The guy has never come out of a game as a plus player this season. I like Brown. I bet he was popular in the room, and last year he looked like he could potentially be a decent 4th liner. This year, though, he has just been really, really bad. I hope he can turn it around. Look at it this way: The team went on a 9 game losing streak during which many forwards were playing extremely badly. Despite that, Brown only drew into one game in that time, where he played 3 shifts, was a -1, and made an absolutely horrible giveaway where he made a very soft backhand pass to nobody right up the middle of the defensive zone, which immediately went for a goal against. As for the comment about Anaheim knowing "how to put players into roles," I don't see how you could pigeonhole Brown into a role any more. The guy usually played in the 3-4min range when he drew into the lineup, and he has almost twice as many fighting majors (11) as shots on goal (6) this season. There's no way that his problem had anything to do with a lack of a clearly defined role. Bobby Smash 02-04-2009, 09:06 PM What's to feel uncomfortable about? We get a spare forward for nothing. I'm stoked we got at least something for McIver since we got him for free. If Brown puts in even one good game this is a good trade. I think he'll fit into our system better than Vancouver's. When Sammy's healthy he'll probably be waived and sent to Iowa or picked by someone else. This is really as low risk a trade you can make. No prospects moved, no picks moved and acquired for someone we got for nothing. im not talking about these specific moves, im talking about being the GM in general. hockeydemon05 02-04-2009, 09:08 PM Also I really hope Murray doesn't do a big deadline deal. Something Burke stayed away from. I have a feeling he will though, and we'll trade some picks and prospects for a player that won't do ****. TheJoeMan 02-04-2009, 09:14 PM im not talking about these specific moves, im talking about being the GM in general. Still, they have been low risk/low reward moves. There's still work to be done but I have confidence he do what's best for the team. I'm sure he's working the phones hard trying to find a home for Brendan Morrison which should make everybody happy. galiano 02-04-2009, 11:32 PM 6 foot, 210 pound enforcer wannabe? Seems a little smallish to me. . He only plays the tough guy role to stay in the league. He has limited talent except for straight ahead speed. And he can throw hits on the forecheck. He is not a fighter. He's a grappler. Wait and see. snarktacular 02-05-2009, 10:07 PM He only plays the tough guy role to stay in the league. He has limited talent except for straight ahead speed. And he can throw hits on the forecheck. He is not a fighter. He's a grappler. Wait and see. That's just my point. Wannabe. But at least the hits would be nice if he can do that. Paul4587 02-05-2009, 11:31 PM Brown looked pretty bad tonight, he was willing to play physical but his hands and balance are beyond terrible. | ||