For Sheldon Brookbank.

http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/2009/02/devils-trade-brookbank-to-anaheim-for-mcintyre.html

think his name sounds familiar, Ducks fans?
it should

Brookbank was part of the organization from 2003-2005, playing for Cincinnati. he's gained 62 games of NHL experience since then, with nine points (all of them assists) and 100 penalty minutes. Clearly his role is more muscle then anything else, just like his brother, Wade.

Clearly his role is more muscle then anything else, just like his brother, Wade.

He wasnt going to get a chance in NJ, so it's good to see him move on. The Devils claimed Brookbank off waivers from the Blue Jackets and he was 7 or 8 on the Devils depth chart, plus they have 2 or 3 guys in AHL that will fight for a spot next year. He seems like a really nice guy though and he never ******* once about being a healthy scratch, so hopefully he'll get a chance in the Ducks organization.

How is this McIntyre kid? I'm guessing he's a long-shot to make the NHL?

Hmm I thought the Ducks liked McIntyre's upside? A fast forward prospect if I recall.

Well Brookbank will be solid on the third pairing giving the Ducks another d-man with an edge so that Montador isn't the only d-man willing to stand up for a teammate.

Hope Mikkelson sits or goes back to Iowa.

So essentially we gave up Brian Sutherby, who cost us a 2nd, who was a decent 4th liner for us and is playing a decent 3rd line role in Dallas, for a marginal NHL defensemen (as if we don't have enough)?

I just don't see the point.

I guess I should be glad that Mikkelson will probably be sent down, but is Brookbank really going to be much of an upgrade? Although toughness on the blueline will be nice, if he ever plays.

I didn't know (or care) much about McIntyre, so that doesn't matter much to me.

So essentially we gave up Brian Sutherby, who cost us a 2nd, who was a decent 4th liner for us and is playing a decent 3rd line role in Dallas, for a marginal NHL defensemen (as if we don't have enough)?

I just don't see the point.

I guess I should be glad that Mikkelson will probably be sent down, but is Brookbank really going to be much of an upgrade? Although toughness on the blueline will be nice, if he ever plays.

I didn't know (or care) much about McIntyre, so that doesn't matter much to me.

We need help defensively and the rookies have gotten a long enough look. Hopefully Brookbank is a good PKer because that's what we need the most out of our back line.

Sutherby was going to be a regular scratch, I still don't mind moving him. He hasn't really torn it up in Dallas either.

Well Brookbank will be solid on the third pairing giving the Ducks another d-man with an edge so that Montador isn't the only d-man willing to stand up for a teammate.

Sutter had Brookbank playing LW this year due to numerous Devils injuries, so in a pinch he can jump in as a 4th line forward if **** hits the fan.

Hopefully Brookbank is a good PKer because that's what we need the most out of our back line.


I dont think Brookbank will be used on the PK, speed is his greatest weakness IMO. He kindof lumbers out there.

We need help defensively and the rookies have gotten a long enough look. Hopefully Brookbank is a good PKer because that's what we need the most out of our back line.

Sutherby was going to be a regular scratch, I still don't mind moving him. He hasn't really torn it up in Dallas either.
Brookbank was 8th on the Devils for Dmen PK TOI. I wouldn't expect much out of him in that regard. He's also only played 15 games, so he's not a regular on that team.

In tonight's game, Suts was 7th in TOI. He was 8th the previous 2 games. He also sees moderate PK time. He's also played every game in Dallas.

Before tonight's game, Brookbank hasn't played since before Christmas.

Now I admit I haven't seen him play to make a real judgment, but it seems like we traded a minimal contributor for a non-contributor.


Here's some reactions from Jersey fans.

Wow, someone wanted Brookbank.
:handclap::handclap::handclap:

I'm just happy we got something for him. And he's gone!!! which means he can no longer waste a roster space.
Good stuff. I wish Brookbank the best, but he clearly wasn't going to play here.

Anyone know anything about McIntyre?
I think Brookbank was going to be waived to open up space regardless, and Lou took an asset instead of risking losing him for nothing.
Eh, kind of a bummer for Brookbank. But Lou summed it up perfectly. We have no need for him as a depth winger, and Jay Leach replaces him as a defensive Dman.

He wasn't THAT bad, either. I mean, for a 7th dman he was pretty good. He brought passion to the game.

Luck will be wished for Brookbank Moutain
Can't complain, Sheldon wasn't doing anything for us. better for us and him to be traded.
Oh happy, happy day =]


Not particularly positive reviews. I guess the trade is fine in that I don't really expect anything at all out of McIntyre, but I still don't see the value with Sutherby.

But Dirk and Pepper will like this:
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I just don't see the point.



I agree, I've seen Brookbank play and he's a downgrade over McIver IMO.

We essentially traded Sutherby for nothing.

We trade Sutherby for Sheldon freakin Brookbank? You officially suck Murray.

Sutherby had no future with this team and we had too many fourth liners on the team. Our defensive depth sucks right now and I think this guy can help out. If anything it allows one of Festerling or Mikkelson to be sent back to Iowa where there are really hurting. Maybe another move is coming, who knows but whining about losing Sutherby is lame. Ryan Carter, Drew Miller and George Parros have all been more effective players and they are all under contract beyond this year. We're lucky we got anything for Suts in the first place. Now trading a second rounder to acquire him is a different discussion all together though everyone knows how I feel about draft picks.

Is he really any better than McIver? I bet we could have had SOB for not a lot more.

I thought these goon-trades would end when Burke left.

So essentially we gave up Brian Sutherby, who cost us a 2nd, who was a decent 4th liner for us and is playing a decent 3rd line role in Dallas, for a marginal NHL defensemen (as if we don't have enough)?

I just don't see the point.

I guess I should be glad that Mikkelson will probably be sent down, but is Brookbank really going to be much of an upgrade? Although toughness on the blueline will be nice, if he ever plays.

I didn't know (or care) much about McIntyre, so that doesn't matter much to me.
Sutherby being traded opened up slots for Carter and Ebbett, but I would much rather have him over Marchant that's for sure.

Brookbank gives us back some toughness, Montador is playing great and is handling the larger minutes better, but i'd like for us to get a dman whos a legit 3 or 4

Niedermayer/Festerling
Pronger/Montador
Hedican/Brookbank(Beauchemin for playoffs?)

Here's some reactions from Jersey fans.


Honestly, Brookbank got a lot of unnecessary hate from Devils fans, myself included. When he played, whether it was D or RW, he played ok. He's a little slow, but besides that he's a solid 6th/7th d-man. He won the Eddie Shore Trophy in the AHL two seasons ago. We just made him a scapegoat.

WTF... Isnt Brookbank exactly like McIver? I dont see why the ducks would waive a player with the same skill set and trade away a solid college prospect. I dont really think Brookbank is a major upgrade over McIver (but if it can keep Montador "huggy bear/crap fighter of the year" from fighting, then it might be a plus).

I just think the ducks could have picked up a better dman. We need to get an overachiever... so far our recent signings are either underachieving or doing nothing spectacular (Morrison, Hedican, McIver, etc.). We need someone like Quincey (who we missed out since we signed McIver) who beats expectations. Quincey would have been good with Pronger.

Sutherby had no future with this team and we had too many fourth liners on the team. Our defensive depth sucks right now and I think this guy can help out. If anything it allows one of Festerling or Mikkelson to be sent back to Iowa where there are really hurting. Maybe another move is coming, who knows but whining about losing Sutherby is lame. Ryan Carter, Drew Miller and George Parros have all been more effective players and they are all under contract beyond this year. We're lucky we got anything for Suts in the first place. Now trading a second rounder to acquire him is a different discussion all together though everyone knows how I feel about draft picks.

That's the problem. He's the one fourth liner we should have hung on to.

Sutherby and Parros were the 2 4th liners I wanted to keep. I thought Sutherby could replace Marchant for the 4th line center. Miller could have waited his turn until next season, when all the bazillion bottom 6ers we had became UFAs.


I want the Ducks to get another defenseman, but I want a legit defensive, physical #4. This trade is just crap for crap IMO.

That's the problem. He's the one fourth liner we should have hung on to.

Carter, Miller, Parros and Marchant are all better than Suts. I liked the way Suts played but he wasn't as effective as the other guys. Plus he made more than Carter, Parros, and Ebbett. I really don't understand where all this lamenting over Brian Sutherby has come from all of a sudden.

WTF... Isnt Brookbank exactly like McIver? I dont see why the ducks would waive a player with the same skill set and trade away a solid college prospect. I dont really think Brookbank is a major upgrade over McIver (but if it can keep Montador "huggy bear/crap fighter of the year" from fighting, then it might be a plus).

I'm starting to wonder if he really is all that solid a prospect. I mean Dallas was willing to move him for an injured fourth liner whom can become a free agent in five months. Then we don't even hold onto his rights three months. He is Colgate's leading scorer but they're a terrible team and play in one of the weaker conference's in college hockey. If was the leading scorer on a WCHA team I'd be a little more upset over this trade. Plus he's several years away from the NHL and McNab will find another gem in the college ranks anyway.

McIntyre...

3rd leading scorer from Colgate in his 20-21 year old season. Born in Ontario. Around 6 feet, 185. Fast skater.

We just traded away Andy McDonald! :sarcasm:

Carter, Miller, Parros and Marchant are all better than Suts. I liked the way Suts played but he wasn't as effective as the other guys. Plus he made more than Carter, Parros, and Ebbett. I really don't understand where all this lamenting over Brian Sutherby has come from all of a sudden.

Parros I will give you. Your Drew Miller infatuation worries me. Carter shouldn't even be a 4th liner IMO so his name didn't even pop into my mind. And Marchant is overpaid and ineffective.

Parros I will give you. Your Drew Miller infatuation worries me. Carter shouldn't even be a 4th liner IMO so his name didn't even pop into my mind. And Marchant is overpaid and ineffective.

Marchant's contract may exceed his performance but to say he's ineffective is wrong. He's quite effective, him and Miller. It was them who generated the pressure that led to Pronger's goal which got us out of that funk against Buffalo. Those two are hard working, defensive players. Honestly, what are you expecting out of either of them that you're not seeing? Carter is a fourth liner, I hate to break it to you. He's good at it but that's what he is. It's okay, you can admit Sutherby wasn't that good. He was good a nice scrap or two and actually scored a couple of goals this year. But he had less value than the other players mentioned.

One thing Sutherby brought to the table was size. Marchant, Drew Miller, and Carter can't hit... a lot of our physical edge has gone down since May and him have been traded.

And I think no one dislikes Marchant, its just what we could have in place his 2.5 million salary.

Morrison might also be struggling, but at least he has shown he has the capability to be an offensive asset. Marchant is a 3rd/4th line center and nothing more.

And I'm sorry Miller looks like the biggest goober in the world out there. He may be responsible defensively, but almost anything that good that happens on the ice with him is pure accident.

One thing Sutherby brought to the table was size. Marchant, Drew Miller, and Carter can't hit... a lot of our physical edge has gone down since May and him have been traded.

And I think no one dislikes Marchant, its just what we could have in place his 2.5 million salary.

Morrison might also be struggling, but at least he has shown he has the capability to be an offensive asset. Marchant is a 3rd/4th line center and nothing more.

And I'm sorry Miller looks like the biggest goober in the world out there. He may be responsible defensively, but almost anything that good that happens on the ice with him is pure accident.

Carter can't hit? :shakehead

Carter is a fourth liner, I hate to break it to you. He's good at it but that's what he is.

Carter has the potential to grow into another Pahlsson.

It's okay, you can admit Miller isn't that good.

Fixed your post.

Carter, Miller, Parros and Marchant are all better than Suts. I liked the way Suts played but he wasn't as effective as the other guys. Plus he made more than Carter, Parros, and Ebbett. I really don't understand where all this lamenting over Brian Sutherby has come from all of a sudden.

In just exactly what way is Miller better than Sutherby?

Sutherby scores goals, is better defensively, obviously more physical, better fighter, better potential, bigger, etc
Your man crush of Miller is clouding your judgment.
I actually hope they sign Sutherby in the offseason

oh and on this trade i'd rather have kept McIver and Sutherby but we'll see how Brookbank plays hopefully replacing Mikkelson

In just exactly what way is Miller better than Sutherby?

Sutherby scores goals, is better defensively, obviously more physical, better fighter, better potential, bigger, etc
Your man crush of Miller is clouding your judgment.
I actually hope they sign Sutherby in the offseason

Sutherby scored some goals doesn't mean he's any good at scoring them. He's no better than Miller whom has just as many goals as a Duck as Sutherby did. Yes, Sutherby is more physical but you've really got to see past that. Miller is good at what he's supposed to do. He plays well positionally, gets the puck out the zone, PKs very well, and skates hard. Honestly you don't like him because he's skinny and doesn't fight. Big deal. In the last two games he helped generate two goals that were big momentum shifters.

There's no way we're signing Sutherby in the off-season. He was traded for a reason. You should be hoping that Dallas re-signs him so we still get a draft pick for him.

Miller sucks balls now, but he has way more potential than Sutherby. Suts is turning 27, and didn't even show any offensive ability in the NHL or even the AHL. Miller has shown offensive ability in the AHL, and has been a decent shut-down forward in college and the AHL.

Ok, maybe can't hit was a poor choice of words... I guess I meant is not a physical presence.

He attempts to hit people, but Carter bounces of people more than he brings them down.

Carter gets into fights but rarely wins them and that is happening less often.

Sutherby scored some goals doesn't mean he's any good at scoring them. He's no better than Miller whom has just as many goals as a Duck as Sutherby did. Yes, Sutherby is more physical but you've really got to see past that. Miller is good at what he's supposed to do. He plays well positionally, gets the puck out the zone, PKs very well, and skates hard. Honestly you don't like him because he's skinny and doesn't fight. Big deal. In the last two games he helped generate two goals that were big momentum shifters.

There's no way we're signing Sutherby in the off-season. He was traded for a reason. You should be hoping that Dallas re-signs him so we still get a draft pick for him.


Enough with the fighting argument with me do you see me bashing Ebbett ever? Miller's only worth is on a PK and imo Sutherby is better at that aspect plus the additional attributes i mentioned. Im not sure how he helped generate 2 goals? But the fact you even mentioned that and failed to mention he has 0 goals with the Ducks helps my point Sutherby has scored goals with Anaheim and Dallas this season

Enough with the fighting argument with me do you see me bashing Ebbett ever? Miller's only worth is on a PK and imo Sutherby is better at that aspect plus the additional attributes i mentioned. Im not sure how he helped generate 2 goals? But the fact you even mentioned that and failed to mention he has 0 goals with the Ducks helps my point Sutherby has scored goals with Anaheim and Dallas this season

On PK:
Miler > Sutherby

As for you Dirk, :shakehead.

On PK:
Miler > Sutherby

As for you Dirk, :shakehead.

Ok so that about settles this debate great evidence right here

Enough with the fighting argument with me do you see me bashing Ebbett ever? Miller's only worth is on a PK and imo Sutherby is better at that aspect plus the additional attributes i mentioned. Im not sure how he helped generate 2 goals? But the fact you even mentioned that and failed to mention he has 0 goals with the Ducks helps my point Sutherby has scored goals with Anaheim and Dallas this season

I'm obviously not going to convince you otherwise so let's just agree to disagree. But to answer your question in the game against Dallas Miller brought the puck out of the zone and made the pass to Moen for his short-handed goal. Against Buffalo he contributed on the forecheck and made the pass to Montador who passed to Pronger who scored. But Sutherby played what, 40+ games last year without a goal so that argument has little weight.

Ok so that about settles this debate great evidence right here

eric usually brings so much more to the table than that. eric we are all truly disappointed and let down by you today.

I'm obviously not going to convince you otherwise so let's just agree to disagree. But to answer your question in the game against Dallas Miller brought the puck out of the zone and made the pass to Moen for his short-handed goal. Against Buffalo he contributed on the forecheck and made the pass to Montador who passed to Pronger who scored. But Sutherby played what, 40+ games last year without a goal so that argument has little weight.

Sutherby was showing some damn good offensive instincts this season before he went down and at least someone had seen offensive potential in him coming into the league. It may have been a longshot but there was still a chance we could have brought it out of him. He was hustling his tail off, laying people out, and driving the net. When he didn't score in those 40+ games he was definitely still creating chances. He kept hitting posts and goalies kept robbing him. Once that fiasco ended and he gained confidence he looked very solid. Get off Miller's nuts already he's a waste.

eric usually brings so much more to the table than that. eric we are all truly disappointed and let down by you today.

This is for Dirk too:

Sutherby is -4 with 1 point since being traded to Dallas. We are sure missing alot!

One thing Sutherby brought to the table was size. Marchant, Drew Miller, and Carter can't hit... a lot of our physical edge has gone down since May and him have been traded.

And I think no one dislikes Marchant, its just what we could have in place his 2.5 million salary.

Morrison might also be struggling, but at least he has shown he has the capability to be an offensive asset. Marchant is a 3rd/4th line center and nothing more.

And I'm sorry Miller looks like the biggest goober in the world out there. He may be responsible defensively, but almost anything that good that happens on the ice with him is pure accident.


Morrison has shown?? When?? Maybe before his knee surgery. Since he's been with the Ducks, he's hindered more than helped. I've seen Teemu set him up with saucer like passes for open net easy goals.....only to watch Morrison shank, whiff, and completely miss from the edge of the crease with the goalie down. One game alone Teemu could've had 5 points on assists alone to this "offensive asset"...yet only got one, for a goal when the opponants goalie fell while behind his own net.

Marchant= defensive handyman, 'cause he does whatever is asked of him, fairly well.....with the ability and speed to keep the other team's powerplay honest. Many times his shorthanded breakaways...whether he scores or not...have kept the other team playing a defensive powerplay...."more concerned with making sure they don't give up a shorty". That is worth more than a 3rd/4th line center, imo.

Marchant= defensive handyman, 'cause he does whatever is asked of him, fairly well.....with the ability and speed to keep the other team's powerplay honest.

You have the Todd Marchant of today confused with the Todd Marchant of 3 seasons ago. He is a shadow of the player he used to be.

I would love to see Kunitz get all of Marchant's PK minutes.

Miller sure helped generate a goal tonight.

For Erat.

Miller sure helped generate a goal tonight.

For Erat.


Miller Lite also crashed head long into a referee. :laugh:

To be fair, Brookbank was there as well and did nothing to stop Erat.

Miller's been disappointing me here the past few games. I try to defend him, I do, but he doesn't help me much.

This is for Dirk too:

Sutherby is -4 with 1 point since being traded to Dallas. We are sure missing alot!

So, he's on Dallas. Doesn't mean his stats look like that on our crappy 2nd line.

This is for Dirk too:

Sutherby is -4 with 1 point since being traded to Dallas. We are sure missing alot!

He does have a goal which Miller couldnt accomplish if you give him an empty net to shoot at

4 goals > 0

He does have a goal which Miller couldnt accomplish if you give him an empty net to shoot at

4 goals > 0

Miller scored more goals and points last year than Suts. If you're really trying to use their offensive output to compare these two you really aren't making a case for either of them.

He does have a goal which Miller couldnt accomplish if you give him an empty net to shoot at

4 goals > 0

Miller scored more goals and points last year than Suts. If you're really trying to use their offensive output to compare these two you really aren't making a case for either of them.

Miller scored more goals and points last year than Suts. If you're really trying to use their offensive output to compare these two you really aren't making a case for either of them.

Sorry Joe, Miller was Chopped.

Sorry Joe, Miller was Chopped.

And Sutherby was traded. Point is we're both defending some pretty marginal players. Though I feel the player I'm defending is marginally better. He'll be back and probably soon.