Shanahan

Classic Devil
01-19-2009, 11:39 PM
Scored a powerplay goal, pure skill and ability to put that into the net. Saved a goal at the end of the game by tying up the forward on the big Clemmensen rebound. Was noticeable at even strength in terms of getting shots off, even playing with Holik and Rupp for most of the night. I even saw him jabbing with Suter deep in Nashville's zone.

As I said in the other thread, he won't play this well every night. He just can't. But his performance tonight was nothing short of eye-opening. Old Man Shanahan has still got his game.

Das Uber
01-19-2009, 11:40 PM
He looked a bit slow 5-5 though. I wonder how much faster he'll get once he "gets his legs back."

Harrison Ford
01-19-2009, 11:41 PM
That last shift was amazing. Under two minutes left, Shanahan goes down to block a shot, blocks it, hits off or clemmer and then the puck gets passed to a player who is wide open, and Shanahan gets up and makes a beautiful backcheck on the player. Then goes into the Nashville zone and keeps the puck in for 30 seconds. Just amazing.

Classic Devil
01-19-2009, 11:41 PM
He looked a bit slow 5-5 though. I wonder how much faster he'll get once he "gets his legs back."
Probably won't get much faster. His lack of speed didn't seem to hurt him a lot, though. His game is one of smarts and quickness.

BenedictGomez
01-19-2009, 11:42 PM
This is why I was so friggin' excited by this signing. What a great game by a "rusty" player.

Harrison Ford
01-19-2009, 11:43 PM
That last shift was amazing. Under two minutes left, Shanahan goes down to block a shot, blocks it, hits off or clemmer and then the puck gets passed to a player who is wide open, and Shanahan gets up and makes a beautiful backcheck on the player. Then goes into the Nashville zone and keeps the puck in for 30 seconds. Just amazing.

But even after all of this, his heart is still in NY.

Colin Whites Eye
01-19-2009, 11:44 PM
welcome back shanny!

ILikeItVeryMuch
01-19-2009, 11:46 PM
He is in mid-season form already.
Hats off to the newest Devil, Brendan MOTHER****ING Shanahan!

Jiri Bicek
01-19-2009, 11:47 PM
That 3rd period shift was just fantastic

My post-game grin is as big as Shanny's was after his goal

The Grinder
01-19-2009, 11:48 PM
You don't have to be that fast to keep up with Rupp and Holik. Keep him on that line now that at is apparent the Madden line has some chemistry.

Harrison Ford
01-19-2009, 11:48 PM
That goal made me smile too, seriously, Brendan Shanahan is on our team. It really just hit me now. :laugh:

Classic Devil
01-19-2009, 11:48 PM
Oh, and despite how his shift in the third period was certainly the highlight of his game tonight, this really was nice too.

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The Rochester Rocket
01-19-2009, 11:48 PM
But even after all of this, his heart is still in NY.

I'd have to disagree, I mean Shanny's gettin paid peanuts basically against the cap and if he really wanted to play for the rags so bad he could have easily waited out longer until the rangers had absolutely no choice but to bring him back which will eventually happen considering they are even in gf and ga. Maybe he wanted to play for an actual contender for the cup not a pretender year after year :sarcasm:.

ADD-devil950003
01-19-2009, 11:48 PM
He played a hell of a game, i am very excited to see how the rest of this experiment turns out!

TaiMaiShu
01-19-2009, 11:49 PM
Missed the game, but what were the PP lineups?

Classic Devil
01-19-2009, 11:51 PM
Missed the game, but what were the PP lineups?
Elias - Zajac - Parise
Shanahan - Zubrus - Gionta

I didn't catch the D-pairings, but Rolston was out with the second unit.

Harrison Ford
01-19-2009, 11:52 PM
Elias - Zajac - Parise
Shanahan - Zubrus - Gionta

I didn't catch the D-pairings, but Rolston was out with the second unit.

Rolston and Langs were the points of the 5 on 3.

ILikeItVeryMuch
01-19-2009, 11:56 PM
Thank You Glen Sather!

fortheloveof666
01-19-2009, 11:57 PM
This "his heart is still in NY" thing is plain stupid. Shannahan is a professional, a veteran and I think there is absolutely no reason to think that the only thing in his heart is to give 110% and help this team win night in and night out. I think tonight alone proved that.

Because he was dedicated to NY like that only goes to show the kind of team player he is and frankly you can't do anything but respect that. That's a character guy who I surely am proud to have back in a Devils sweater.

He won't have games like this on a nightly basis but he certainly gives us a better chance to win, no question about that.

devilzrule27
01-19-2009, 11:58 PM
Elias - Zajac - Parise
Shanahan - Zubrus - Gionta

I didn't catch the D-pairings, but Rolston was out with the second unit.

he also was out with the first. I think they just rotate the d pairings for the PP.

Classic Devil
01-19-2009, 11:58 PM
This "his heart is still in NY" thing is plain stupid. Shannahan is a professional, a veteran and I think there is absolutely no reason to think that the only thing in his heart is to give 110% and help this team win night in and night out. I think tonight alone proved that.

Because he was dedicated to NY like that only goes to show the kind of team player he is and frankly you can't do anything but respect that. That's a character guy who I surely am proud to have back in a Devils sweater.

He won't have games like this on a nightly basis but he certainly gives us a better chance to win, no question about that.
I love the old vets that have played on this team over the years. Shanahan gives me a couple more games like this one, and he'll be up there with Nieuwendyk and Gilmour on those players that just made me smile every time I saw them on the ice in Devils red.

Devilswede
01-19-2009, 11:58 PM
I don't care how slow he looked, which to me he didn't at all. The man has a knock for getting open and every one of his 6 shots was a serious scoring chance....

I agree with CD, he won't play this well all the time...but what a debut it was!

devilzrule27
01-19-2009, 11:59 PM
This "his heart is still in NY" thing is plain stupid. Shannahan is a professional, a veteran and I think there is absolutely no reason to think that the only thing in his heart is to give 110% and help this team win night in and night out. I think tonight alone proved that.

Because he was dedicated to NY like that only goes to show the kind of team player he is and frankly you can't do anything but respect that. That's a character guy who I surely am proud to have back in a Devils sweater.

He won't have games like this on a nightly basis but he certainly gives us a better chance to win, no question about that.

I'd have to disagree, I mean Shanny's gettin paid peanuts basically against the cap and if he really wanted to play for the rags so bad he could have easily waited out longer until the rangers had absolutely no choice but to bring him back which will eventually happen considering they are even in gf and ga. Maybe he wanted to play for an actual contender for the cup not a pretender year after year :sarcasm:.

Its a joke from the Shanny facebook page. Ranger fans were saying his heart was still in NY.

Harrison Ford
01-20-2009, 12:01 AM
Missed the game, but what were the PP lineups?

you missed a good one tonight.

paulytits
01-20-2009, 12:05 AM
ill be waiting to see what al trautwig has to say in this thread!

Easton
01-20-2009, 12:06 AM
Excuse me...
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yakitate304
01-20-2009, 12:06 AM
He was putting himself in really good positions all over the ice tonight. The goal, and that late shift to save the equalizer were the two main highlights, but he also made a good number of small plays, from keeping the puck in the zone on hardarounds, to just being in the right spot to get good quality scoring chances, and good drawing of defenders allowing his linemates to make a quick two man cycle to keep the puck in a different area... Those little things are key when it comes to success over a long haul, whether that's ~40 games or ~20 seasons. Hopefully he keeps doing those things, and if he puts up the points to go with it. 20 points doesn't seem unreasonable for him.

Harrison Ford
01-20-2009, 12:07 AM
i think we will see a rolston-madden-shanahan line soon

Classic Devil
01-20-2009, 12:09 AM
i think we will see a rolston-madden-shanahan line soon
They played together towards the end of the game today. I wonder if Shanny wants RW or LW...

fortheloveof666
01-20-2009, 12:09 AM
I love the old vets that have played on this team over the years. Shanahan gives me a couple more games like this one, and he'll be up there with Nieuwendyk and Gilmour on those players that just made me smile every time I saw them on the ice in Devils red.

Really, Gilmour? I sort of didn't like him here, despite the intangibles he did bring.

Andreychuk (sic) however, ****in amazing. I was at that Washington game when he scored his 500th goal, i think it was.

Also I was never sold on Phil Housley either...and Zezel? I forget he even played for us half the time...

fortheloveof666
01-20-2009, 12:09 AM
ill be waiting to see what al trautwig has to say in this thread!

I was seriously thinking the same exact thing. hahah

Harrison Ford
01-20-2009, 12:11 AM
They played together towards the end of the game today. I wonder if Shanny wants RW or LW...

He'll go wherever Sutter puts him. I am so happy we have Brendan ****ing Shanahan.

Classic Devil
01-20-2009, 12:11 AM
Really, Gilmour? I sort of didn't like him here, despite the intangibles he did bring.

Andreychuk (sic) however, ****in amazing. I was at that Washington game when he scored his 500th goal, i think it was.

Also I was never sold on Phil Housley either...and Zezel? I forget he even played for us half the time...
Gilmour was exactly as advertised. Put up a PPG season to finish out 96-97, then had a solid 97-98 regular season and tore up the playoffs in 97-98, even though we ended up going out in the first round. I loved him while he was a Devil.

Harrison Ford
01-20-2009, 12:13 AM
Look how happy everyone was for him.

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/84364293.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19346E4C5E9CA073261E39B9313D62354D1 8F198085993A39DE

Classic Devil
01-20-2009, 12:15 AM
Look how happy everyone was for him.

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/84364293.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19346E4C5E9CA073261E39B9313D62354D1 8F198085993A39DE
I love this team. I really do. Especially Weekes, look at that smile.

The Grinder
01-20-2009, 12:17 AM
Originally posted byfortheloveof666
Andreychuk (sic) however, ****in amazing. I was at that Washington game when he scored his 500th goal, i think it was.

I was at that game too, 5 rows from the glass behind the net when he scored, and yea i would think it was against the capitals.

elias026
01-20-2009, 12:17 AM
Look how happy everyone was for him.

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/84364293.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19346E4C5E9CA073261E39B9313D62354D1 8F198085993A39DE

haha except Holik, but he just looks normal

Classic Devil
01-20-2009, 12:19 AM
haha except Holik, but he just looks normal
I don't think Holik can smile. Or cry, he had his tear ducts removed as a small child.

Harrison Ford
01-20-2009, 12:19 AM
haha except Holik, but he just looks normal

you can tell he is smiling too

JimEIV
01-20-2009, 12:23 AM
I thought Gilmour was one of Lou's worst deals.

Alyn McCauley, Steve Sullivan, Jason Smith....Ouch

Classic Devil
01-20-2009, 12:23 AM
I thought Gilmour was one of Lou's worst deals.

Alyn McCauley, Steve Sullivan, Jason Smith....Ouch
Most of whom were going to be lost in either waiver or expansion drafts anyway.

devilzrule27
01-20-2009, 12:24 AM
I thought Gilmour was one of Lou's worst deals.

Alyn McCauley, Steve Sullivan, Jason Smith....Ouch

thats in hindsight but at the time it was the right move to make.

ILikeItVeryMuch
01-20-2009, 12:26 AM
Haha I am adding all of these pics to the Shanny FB page.

fortheloveof666
01-20-2009, 12:28 AM
thats in hindsight but at the time it was the right move to make.

Sullivan was tearing it up before that trade. I'd have taken Sully growing here and becoming the player he did than 1.5 seasons of Gilmour.

Classic Devil
01-20-2009, 12:30 AM
Sullivan was tearing it up before that trade. I'd have taken Sully growing here and becoming the player he did than 1.5 seasons of Gilmour.
Sullivan got waived by Toronto. Waived. The same thing would have happened if he'd stayed in New Jersey, we had too much talent and the waiver draft prevented us from keeping everyone.

Jiri Bicek
01-20-2009, 12:31 AM
Haha I am adding all of these pics to the Shanny FB page.

I added the practice pics, and the one RG made with the puck, and none of them showed up yet

Edit: I prob did it wrong.. I don't know wtf I'm doing with Facebook

ILikeItVeryMuch
01-20-2009, 12:32 AM
I added the practice pics, and the one RG made with the puck, and none of them showed up yet

You have to click save on the edit screen.

fortheloveof666
01-20-2009, 12:34 AM
Sullivan got waived by Toronto. Waived. The same thing would have happened if he'd stayed in New Jersey, we had too much talent and the waiver draft prevented us from keeping everyone.

Some guys don't handle being abruptly traded very well.

JimEIV
01-20-2009, 12:43 AM
Some guys don't handle being abruptly traded very well.

He handled it well.... He played 154 games for Toronto and scored 85 points....Toronto was crazy for letting him go.

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jkrdevil
01-20-2009, 12:49 AM
They played together towards the end of the game today. I wonder if Shanny wants RW or LW...

I think Sutter will play it similar to he did tonight. Shanahan will play most of the game with Holik and Rupp with Clarkson with Madden and Holik. That gives the Devils some balance for most of the game. However, if the game is tight toward the end he will switch Clarkson and Shanahan for some defense.

brodeurfanatic
01-20-2009, 12:52 AM
Look how happy everyone was for him.

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/84364293.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19346E4C5E9CA073261E39B9313D62354D1 8F198085993A39DE

Pando must be... puking

crashlanding
01-20-2009, 12:53 AM
Sullivan got waived by Toronto. Waived. The same thing would have happened if he'd stayed in New Jersey, we had too much talent and the waiver draft prevented us from keeping everyone.
Yeah that's something that everyone forgets about these late 90's trades. Lou made a lot of them so we got some use out of guys we would have lost in expansion drafts anyway.

JimEIV
01-20-2009, 01:03 AM
Who will score more goals this year:

Shanahan or Gomez :dunno:

:laugh:

Gunnar Stahl 30
01-20-2009, 01:07 AM
sutter always messes with the lines for a shift or two. at teh end of the first elias was playing with parise and zajac. they nearly scored tooo

JimEIV
01-20-2009, 01:09 AM
sutter always messes with the lines for a shift or two. at teh end of the first elias was playing with parise and zajac. they nearly scored tooo

The very first shift of the 2nd period Shanny came out with Zajac and Langenbrunner......Scared the hell out of me I thought Zach was hurt.

I still like to know what that was about....Equipment? trying something new? I'd like to know.

DevilBesideYou
01-20-2009, 01:27 AM
I hope that Sutter doesn't overplay him. Shanny played really well, much better than I expected, but almost 14 minutes seems like a lot.

glenwo2
01-20-2009, 01:30 AM
But even after all of this, his heart is still in NY.

Would you STOP IT ALREADY???? :rant:



I don't want to hear about NY. This is NJ. And Shanny's heart is HERE, PERIOD.

Darius Dangleaitis
01-20-2009, 01:32 AM
Great game from him. Just saw the "going up" Sportscenter commercial for the first time live as well.

jkrdevil
01-20-2009, 01:35 AM
Would you STOP IT ALREADY???? :rant:



I don't want to hear about NY. This is NJ. And Shanny's heart is HERE, PERIOD.

It's called sarcasm

devsfan4life
01-20-2009, 01:40 AM
Would you STOP IT ALREADY???? :rant:



I don't want to hear about NY. This is NJ. And Shanny's heart is HERE, PERIOD.

sarcasm says hi

sattar18
01-20-2009, 01:44 AM
Would you STOP IT ALREADY???? :rant:



I don't want to hear about NY. This is NJ. And Shanny's heart is HERE, PERIOD.



:sarcasm:

H-Bomb is gonna get the K-Train on you :laugh:

Cortez
01-20-2009, 01:51 AM
Hey guys congrats on Shanahans first goal in his first game he looks like a great addition and congrats on taking the lead in your division.

Niedermayer21
01-20-2009, 01:53 AM
I believe Shanahan is on a pace to score 37 goals. Am I correct?

Glen Sather must be PO'd after seeing this game against Nashville.

The Rangers could have used Shanahan. Glad we have him.

Pando and Rupp and Holik may sit a little so Shanny can play.

They better raise their play so they don't sit out. So far Rupp has done nothing to show he doesn't belong in the lineup. Except score. But that is not what he is being asked to do, though a goal now and then would not hurt.

BTW, time to trade someone or demote someone and promote Salmela.

Great game!!! Vaya con dios... :D

Blackjack
01-20-2009, 01:56 AM
I hope that Sutter doesn't overplay him. Shanny played really well, much better than I expected, but almost 14 minutes seems like a lot.

Less than 25% of the game, so less than the average ice time of a forward. Plus, he's a powerplay specialist, so expect 2-3 minutes of that time per game to be 5-4 or 5-3, which is not as taxing. Elite forwards in the league are logging around 25 minutes a game sometimes, I think Shanahan should be okay at 14.

Niedermayer21
01-20-2009, 01:57 AM
Hey guys congrats on Shanahans first goal in his first game he looks like a great addition and congrats on taking the lead in your division.

Thanks, man!!! Can you send us Ian White for a 5th round pick or Sheldon Brookbank and a 7th? Much obliged. ;)

Cortez
01-20-2009, 01:59 AM
Thanks, man!!! Can you send us Ian White for a 5th round pick or Sheldon Brookbank and a 7th? Much obliged. ;)

You can have Ryan Hollweg for free

Crimson Devil
01-20-2009, 02:06 AM
Look how happy everyone was for him.

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/84364293.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19346E4C5E9CA073261E39B9313D62354D1 8F198085993A39DE
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2940/84364293ua3.jpg

There's a very easy trick to getting rid of the watermark.

fortheloveof666
01-20-2009, 02:11 AM
You can have Ryan Hollweg for free

Only if we get to take him behind the shed and put him down like an old dog.

Dialamo
01-20-2009, 02:14 AM
You can have Ryan Hollweg for free
You'll have to pay us to take Hollweg.

Cortez
01-20-2009, 02:16 AM
Only if we get to take him behind the shed and put him down like an old dog.

Please do:)

yakitate304
01-20-2009, 02:18 AM
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2940/84364293ua3.jpg

There's a very easy trick to getting rid of the watermark.

Which is...?

Blackjack
01-20-2009, 02:31 AM
Please do:)

Cam Janssen already did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOmoFm0qGqg

lol, that never gets old.

Niedermayer21
01-20-2009, 02:50 AM
I'd pay to see a steal cage match between Hollweg and Avery.

The winner gets Elisha Cuthbert. :sarcasm:

On loan from Dion Phaneuf, of course. ;)

Gunnar Stahl 30
01-20-2009, 03:10 AM
just wanted to let every one know that i have the same stick as brendan

Easton
01-20-2009, 03:51 AM
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britdevil
01-20-2009, 05:32 AM
just wanted to let every one know that i have the same stick as brendan

:pause:

Anssi is epic
01-20-2009, 05:35 AM
keep pando scratched kthx

madden and elias were great on the PK, kudos to sutter ,definitely thought rupp would be the odd man out

Classic Devil
01-20-2009, 05:36 AM
:pause:
I was waiting for that.

britdevil
01-20-2009, 05:52 AM
I was waiting for that.

Haha.

The best thing about this signing? Our special teams have been insane, they are winning games for sure...

Having Madden, Zajac, Elias, Langenbrunner, Rolston, Gionta, Shanahan, Holik and Parise on the the penalty kill is awesome. It insures that nobody is getting over-worked and that they can stay mentally strong about their play...

Fillip Kuba is a definite strong option right now.

One7nine
01-20-2009, 09:52 AM
What was the song that they played for him in Detroit, and does anyone think they should do it in NJ?

Brooklyndevil
01-20-2009, 10:05 AM
The goal by Shanny was a sweet move, but I was more impressed by the defensive play he made in the third, while Nashville was on the pp. I Just hope Sutter doesn't get the urge to over-use the guy and he will help. No more then 15 minutes per game and not sure he should be playing on the pk, although I have no problem with him being on the ice in the last minute of a tight game. Welcome back Shanny.

kyle evs48
01-20-2009, 10:08 AM
roots!

Richer's Ghost
01-20-2009, 10:14 AM
This "his heart is still in NY" thing is plain stupid. Shannahan is a professional, a veteran and I think there is absolutely no reason to think that the only thing in his heart is to give 110% and help this team win night in and night out. I think tonight alone proved that.


Yes it is especially given his interview a few days back where he quite simply stated as much when he said "Well, I played 16 seasons and only 2 of those were with New York..." Then he went on to say something to the effect of just because they are the most recent may put some fans off, but as a professional he is here to win for this club and the fans would quickly see that.

I see no problems whatsoever as the past 2 seasons were simply a pit stop for someone that is clearly a Red Wing if you want to label his career.

Also he had less time preparing with the team than Holik or Rolston but looked much more impressive in his debut than either of them who have only recently really hit their stride. Just imagine Shanny as we come down the playoff stretch with Marty back in net. :yo:

Mr Bojanglez
01-20-2009, 10:21 AM
I don't want everyone to get so super excited over Shanny, but it looks like we're getting what we expected.

His goal was pretty nice. I won't say it was great, and I won't say it was easy. But I think for a guy with Shanny's experience, and goal scoring touch, it was an easy one. A younger, less-proven guy might have gotten too excited on that. He showed patience and an eagle eye to pick that spot of the open net.

He also showed how incredibly slow he is. And he also showed his willingness to win, at any means. Blocking shots, taking cross checks.

A guy of his caliber HAS to excel in a powerplay situation, which is what he did. I still think he should be limited to those types of roles, and with smaller minutes at regular strength. I know he was a penalty killer with NY, but I don't want any of that. In fact, I'm shocked Rolston hasn't been penalty killing, but whatever.

I think his conditioning will get better, but I do believe he is as slow as Nemchinov.

That said, as long as we keep him in a limited capacity I am EXTREMELY happy with him.

captainscott
01-20-2009, 10:45 AM
the key with shanahan will be to use him smartly. Renney overplayed him with rangers.

if sutter resists the temptation to put him out there 17-20 minutes a night he should hold up.

its important that he limits his ice time to 10-13 minutes per night, no penalty killing etc. he can be a real asset to this team if sutter uses him wisely.

i was actually really surprised he saw over 13 minutes last night. he looked really good for a guy who has not played he was key to the victory to state obvious.

i like him with madden and rolston. but he should still only see 10-14 minutes per night.

captainscott
01-20-2009, 10:47 AM
I don't want everyone to get so super excited over Shanny, but it looks like we're getting what we expected.

His goal was pretty nice. I won't say it was great, and I won't say it was easy. But I think for a guy with Shanny's experience, and goal scoring touch, it was an easy one. A younger, less-proven guy might have gotten too excited on that. He showed patience and an eagle eye to pick that spot of the open net.

He also showed how incredibly slow he is. And he also showed his willingness to win, at any means. Blocking shots, taking cross checks.

A guy of his caliber HAS to excel in a powerplay situation, which is what he did. I still think he should be limited to those types of roles, and with smaller minutes at regular strength. I know he was a penalty killer with NY, but I don't want any of that. In fact, I'm shocked Rolston hasn't been penalty killing, but whatever.


I think his conditioning will get better, but I do believe he is as slow as Nemchinov.

That said, as long as we keep him in a limited capacity I am EXTREMELY happy with him.

i guess i should have read this post first, but you are exactly right.

Gunnar Stahl 30
01-20-2009, 11:13 AM
:pause:

100 flex;)

Darius Dangleaitis
01-20-2009, 11:18 AM
Haha.

The best thing about this signing? Our special teams have been insane, they are winning games for sure...

Having Madden, Zajac, Elias, Langenbrunner, Rolston, Gionta, Shanahan, Holik and Parise on the the penalty kill is awesome. It insures that nobody is getting over-worked and that they can stay mentally strong about their play...

Fillip Kuba is a definite strong option right now.

That's why Pandolfo is absolutely obsolete. We have more than enough guys for the PK and that play well defensively. On the other hand, Rupp is our heavyweight and handles the big guys (Belak for instance). There is NO reason to take Rupp's size out of the lineup for something we already have plenty of in Pandolfo.

Gunnar Stahl 30
01-20-2009, 11:20 AM
you know we WERE perfect on teh pk until last night.......when pandolfo didnt play. coincidence? i think not:sarcasm:

Richer's Ghost
01-20-2009, 11:23 AM
you know we WERE perfect on teh pk until last night.......when pandolfo didnt play. coincidence? i think not:sarcasm:

http://mossavi.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/shut_up_fox.jpg

Ehrhoff10
01-20-2009, 11:34 AM
What was the song that they played for him in Detroit, and does anyone think they should do it in NJ?

It was the Irish Jig.

britdevil
01-20-2009, 11:36 AM
you know we WERE perfect on teh pk until last night.......when pandolfo didnt play. coincidence? i think not:sarcasm:

Scratch Madden, bring back Vish.

Rolston - Holik - Clarkson
Shanahan - Vish - Pandolfo

Rupp can replace Greene on defence.

Colin Whites Eye
01-20-2009, 11:54 AM
you meant:

Vish-Holik-Clarkson
Shanahan-Vish-Vish

ILikeItVeryMuch
01-20-2009, 12:50 PM
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DevilBesideYou
01-20-2009, 02:00 PM
Less than 25% of the game, so less than the average ice time of a forward. Plus, he's a powerplay specialist, so expect 2-3 minutes of that time per game to be 5-4 or 5-3, which is not as taxing. Elite forwards in the league are logging around 25 minutes a game sometimes, I think Shanahan should be okay at 14.
the key with shanahan will be to use him smartly. Renney overplayed him with rangers.

if sutter resists the temptation to put him out there 17-20 minutes a night he should hold up.

its important that he limits his ice time to 10-13 minutes per night, no penalty killing etc. he can be a real asset to this team if sutter uses him wisely.

i was actually really surprised he saw over 13 minutes last night. he looked really good for a guy who has not played he was key to the victory to state obvious.

i like him with madden and rolston. but he should still only see 10-14 minutes per night.
That's what I meant. For his first game back, 14 minutes was definitely more than I expected. But also, especially because Shanny has so much experience and played well, it'd be easy for Sutter to want to play him a lot.

Mr Bojanglez
01-20-2009, 02:09 PM
He averaged 18:30 min last year for the Rangers, and 19:49 the year before.

14 minutes isn't too bad. I mean, he did play a good game so you should reward him with more playing time. If he starts cracking 16 or more minutes, I'll be worried.

dk3790
01-20-2009, 02:18 PM
just wanted to let every one know that i have the same stick as brendan

what stick does he have, and i'm not being preverted...

devsfan4life
01-20-2009, 02:26 PM
its a warrior i believe, no offense gunnar but i don't like them, i think their ugly.

feerlessleadr
01-20-2009, 02:28 PM
what stick does he have, and i'm not being preverted...
warrior dolemite....i have the same stick that is pro stock from parise...awesome stick

Harrison Ford
01-20-2009, 02:33 PM
That's why Pandolfo is absolutely obsolete. We have more than enough guys for the PK and that play well defensively. On the other hand, Rupp is our heavyweight and handles the big guys (Belak for instance). There is NO reason to take Rupp's size out of the lineup for something we already have plenty of in Pandolfo.

I agree. I think if we can find a team that needs defensive forwards with no offensive capabilities whatsoever, i think we will be good to go for a trade. :sarcasm: But seriously, I really want Pando to come back, but with the Shanahan signing, especially at such a low price, Pando looks completely worthless at this point.

Das Uber
01-20-2009, 02:33 PM
warrior dolemite....i have the same stick that is pro stock from parise...awesome stick

Doesn't Zach use the Stealth S17?

Clarkson Falls Down
01-20-2009, 02:35 PM
I agree. I think if we can find a team that needs defensive forwards with no offensive capabilities whatsoever, i think we will be good to go for a trade. :sarcasm: But seriously, I really want Pando to come back, but with the Shanahan signing, especially at such a low price, Pando looks completely worthless at this point.

I don't think we've seen the last of Pando, though. I can see Sutter still giving him some time and hoping that he plays with fire and desperation in his game. Still keep the competition going.

Big#D
01-20-2009, 02:37 PM
Scratch Madden, bring back Vish.

Rolston - Holik - Clarkson
Shanahan - Vish - Pandolfo

Rupp can replace Greene on defence.

you meant:

Vish-Holik-Clarkson
Shanahan-Vish-Vish

Okay, I know this is completely theoretical (and completely off topic - but that's another story), but who wins between Vish and Holik.

1) The staredown.
2) The thick accent.
3) The quotable quote.
4) The world ending brawl.
5) The race to get an iced puck.

Richer's Ghost
01-20-2009, 02:38 PM
Doesn't Zach use the Stealth S17?

Yes and he's been an Easton poster boy for a while now.

Mr Bojanglez
01-20-2009, 02:39 PM
1) The staredown. Vish
2) The thick accent. Vish
3) The quotable quote. Booby
4) The world ending brawl. Booby
5) The race to get an iced puck. (As in.. who is last to the puck?) Booby

Richer's Ghost
01-20-2009, 02:40 PM
Okay, I know this is completely theoretical (and completely off topic - but that's another story), but who wins between Vish and Holik.

1) The staredown.
2) The thick accent.
3) The quotable quote.
4) The world ending brawl.
5) The race to get an iced puck.

1) vish
2) thick? vish
3) holik
4) vish
5) tie

6) The brow beating contest: holik
7) The make a baby cry first contest: holik

thus it ends in a 3-3-1 tie...

Brooklyndevil
01-20-2009, 02:42 PM
He averaged 18:30 min last year for the Rangers, and 19:49 the year before.

14 minutes isn't too bad. I mean, he did play a good game so you should reward him with more playing time. If he starts cracking 16 or more minutes, I'll be worried.

It's not about rewarding Shanny, it's about keeping him fresh for the playoffs. The guy is a Hall of Famer who just turned 40. Sutter and Shanny both have to fight the urge to play more minutes.

Reverend_Hellh0und
01-20-2009, 02:49 PM
That last shift was amazing. Under two minutes left, Shanahan goes down to block a shot, blocks it, hits off or clemmer and then the puck gets passed to a player who is wide open, and Shanahan gets up and makes a beautiful backcheck on the player. Then goes into the Nashville zone and keeps the puck in for 30 seconds. Just amazing.




Hell yeah, he made quite a statment last night.

Harrison Ford
01-20-2009, 03:00 PM
Hell yeah, he made quite a statment last night.

yeah it was a big **** you to the rangers. i like. :yo:

Snapstick
01-20-2009, 05:06 PM
Yeah, congratulations on getting Shanahan back. Just caught the news (I know I'm a little late) on NHL on the Fly.

Why did that boy leave you guys in the first place?

borrachon
01-20-2009, 05:06 PM
Parise
Elias
Rolston
Shanahan

Holy ****. Best LW in hockey.

Colin Whites Eye
01-20-2009, 05:09 PM
Yeah, congratulations on getting Shanahan back. Just caught the news (I know I'm a little late) on NHL on the Fly.

Why did that boy leave you guys in the first place?




who cares, we got this guy in return:

http://www.hhweb.com/photos/cup2003/Steven_With_Cup_small.jpgg

ILikeItVeryMuch
01-20-2009, 05:12 PM
I did some peepin'
Use the OT NHL thread since this will just turn into the Devils fans bumping this everytime he gets a point.
You are damn right we will. :laugh:

Snapstick
01-20-2009, 05:13 PM
who cares, we got this guy in return:

http://www.hhweb.com/photos/cup2003/Steven_With_Cup_small.jpgg

Hah! Very true.


So what is the overall opinion of everyone here on getting Shanahan back?

ILikeItVeryMuch
01-20-2009, 05:14 PM
Hah! Very true.


So what is the overall opinion of everyone here on getting Shanahan back?

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Colin Whites Eye
01-20-2009, 05:15 PM
I did some peepin'

You are damn right we will. :laugh:



i just want to post this over there:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/andymac23/youmad.jpg

feerlessleadr
01-20-2009, 05:36 PM
Doesn't Zach use the Stealth S17?
you are correct sir...I believe he only used the warrior for a very, and I mean very, short time.

I got them over a year ago off of hockeymonkey.com's pro-stock....stock (i guess)

pretty sweet curve and got a great deal for 2 of them (150 for both, I think at the time they were retailing for 170 a piece with a warranty).

BenedictGomez
01-20-2009, 05:44 PM
I did some peepin'

You are damn right we will. :laugh:

I couldnt believe that :shakehead

It was a good discussion too

Gunnar Stahl 30
01-20-2009, 05:49 PM
what stick does he have, and i'm not being preverted...


warrior dolemite....i have the same stick that is pro stock from parise...awesome stick

yep, it is. the s17 are SOOOOO nice. ive heard alot of complaints about the blade breaking pretty easily, which sucks because its a true one piece so you ahve to replace the whole stick

its a warrior i believe, no offense gunnar but i don't like them, i think their ugly.

yea, well i think youre ugly:p: mines actually a guys from a pro team so he spray painted most of the bottom part black. its got a little green from teh warrior sign and i have tape at the top so its really not too colored in. i actually like the color scheme though

Doesn't Zach use the Stealth S17?

yep, and clarkson, rolston, and MAYBE elias. ive seen a picture of him using one, though i think he uses either the one 95 or a warrior

feerlessleadr
01-20-2009, 06:18 PM
yep, it is. the s17 are SOOOOO nice. ive heard alot of complaints about the blade breaking pretty easily, which sucks because its a true one piece so you ahve to replace the whole stick



yea, well i think youre ugly:p: mines actually a guys from a pro team so he spray painted most of the bottom part black. its got a little green from teh warrior sign and i have tape at the top so its really not too colored in. i actually like the color scheme though



yep, and clarkson, rolston, and MAYBE elias. ive seen a picture of him using one, though i think he uses either the one 95 or a warrior
couldn't you just saw off the broken blade, flip the stick around and pop a blade in the other end?

at least that is what cheapasses like me do when I don't want to drop 200 bones on another stick lol

Gunnar Stahl 30
01-20-2009, 06:23 PM
couldn't you just saw off the broken blade, flip the stick around and pop a blade in the other end?

at least that is what cheapasses like me do when I don't want to drop 200 bones on another stick lol

you could, but i wouldnt recommend doing it. the stick wont be the same AT ALL. especially for a high end model like that. the kick point would be off because it is designed to be used right side up plus the end where the butt end goes is weaker than teh part for teh blade so more chance to break it. again, the way the stick is designed, it is lighter in some areas more than otehrs and for some is rounded toward your bottom hand more than your top and there is more of a grip toward your bottom hand. all of that would be thrown off and you would no longer be using that 220$ stick you paid for. you might as well just get a new one

DevilsFan38
01-20-2009, 08:45 PM
Hah! Very true.


So what is the overall opinion of everyone here on getting Shanahan back?
After last night's game I think we're all thrilled :D

you are correct sir...I believe he only used the warrior for a very, and I mean very, short time.

I got them over a year ago off of hockeymonkey.com's pro-stock....stock (i guess)

pretty sweet curve and got a great deal for 2 of them (150 for both, I think at the time they were retailing for 170 a piece with a warranty).
Just curious, what kind of curve is it?

Snapstick
01-21-2009, 12:35 AM
^ Awesome. Well you got Shanahan back, now you just need to get Brody back. I wonder if he'll be back by the time we next meet up.

I believe the Flyers' next meeting with the Devils is the 1st of March, correct? I can't wait. I love watching our games together more than the Flyers against the Pens.

Niedermayer21
01-21-2009, 01:42 AM
Just FYI, Zach uses a freakin' magic wand!!!

Mike Milbury bought it for him. :naughty:

Between Don Maloney and Mike Milbury, it is no wonder the Isles are in the crapper. Not that I care BTW. F 'em and the Rags!!!

britdevil
01-21-2009, 07:18 AM
Just FYI, Zach uses a freakin' magic wand!!!

Mike Milbury bought it for him. :naughty:

Between Don Maloney and Mike Milbury, it is no wonder the Isles are in the crapper. Not that I care BTW. F 'em and the Rags!!!

Crystal meth is not your friend... ;)

Richer's Ghost
01-21-2009, 10:17 AM
couldn't you just saw off the broken blade, flip the stick around and pop a blade in the other end?

at least that is what cheapasses like me do when I don't want to drop 200 bones on another stick lol

No you can't. These new 1 piece composites are nothing like the shaft only sticks of yesteryear... they have tapered shafts going to a specific narrow kickpoint that creates the whip when you shoot. This tapering starts about a foot from the blade.

feerlessleadr
01-21-2009, 10:47 AM
No you can't. These new 1 piece composites are nothing like the shaft only sticks of yesteryear... they have tapered shafts going to a specific narrow kickpoint that creates the whip when you shoot. This tapering starts about a foot from the blade.

yea i know, that's why I said flip the shaft around because the other end of the shaft isn't tapered. so for us cheapies ;) it is like having a stick from yesteryear.

gunnar- true it definitely isn't the same stick and definitely isn't recommended for someone who can afford to buy another stick. but as a quick fix, it definitley works, because I have used it a number of times until I could save up some money to get another one.

DF38- it is a nasty curve to be honest. Not sure what the lie is (either 5.5 or 6) but it has a mid blade curve that is reminiscent to me of a sakic curve on retail sticks, with a little more of an open toe.

Richer's Ghost
01-21-2009, 10:52 AM
couldn't you just saw off the broken blade, flip the stick around and pop a blade in the other end?

at least that is what cheapasses like me do when I don't want to drop 200 bones on another stick lol

yea i know, that's why I said flip the shaft around because the other end of the shaft isn't tapered. so for us cheapies ;) it is like having a stick from yesteryear.

gunnar- true it definitely isn't the same stick and definitely isn't recommended for someone who can afford to buy another stick. but as a quick fix, it definitley works, because I have used it a number of times until I could save up some money to get another one.

DF38- it is a nasty curve to be honest. Not sure what the lie is (either 5.5 or 6) but it has a mid blade curve that is reminiscent to me of a sakic curve on retail sticks, with a little more of an open toe.

The thickness and diameter of the inner shaft is different is what I was trying to get at - as they try to focus the energy transfer down to the kickpoint... so it would be hard to make a blade fit unless you sanded it down.

That curve sounds like a lidstrom - it flares out at the toe more than the sakic but has a similar curve pattern (just with a more squared toe).

Colin Whites Eye
01-21-2009, 11:06 AM
The thickness and diameter of the inner shaft is different is what I was trying to get at - as they try to focus the energy transfer down to the kickpoint... so it would be hard to make a blade fit unless you sanded it down.

That curve sounds like a lidstrom - it flares out at the toe more than the sakic but has a similar curve pattern (just with a more squared toe).





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Richer's Ghost
01-21-2009, 11:15 AM
PAUSE

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http://991.com/newGallery/Original-Soundtrack-Fast-Forward-393791.jpg

britdevil
01-21-2009, 11:21 AM
"I expect their focus to be on welcoming the team back, not me. It's been a very successful road trip," Shanahan said. "One thing about the New Jersey Devils - it's always about the team, not about individuals."

"Last year [with the RangersNew York Rangers ] I was a go-to guy on the power play, a go-to guy on penalty killing. I came within two of leading my team in goals. I didn't see that as a whole bunch of red flags telling me it was time to retire.

"I ignore that bunch of people who just look at the birth certificate."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01212009/sports/devils/like_old_times_for_shanahan_151119.htm

One could look at these quotes from Brendan and say that they were small digs at his previous employers and so called "fans". Others could simply say that he is just sticking up for himself and believes he can still play.

I guess what you believe in, is up to you. ;)

dk3790
01-21-2009, 11:26 AM
did they stop making Yzerman curves? that was my favorite...

BenedictGomez
01-21-2009, 11:35 AM
These new 1 piece composites are nothing like the shaft only sticks of yesteryear... they have tapered shafts going to a specific narrow kickpoint that creates the whip when you shoot. This tapering starts about a foot from the blade.

This also results in creating the convenient aspect of generating a ****load more revenue than "sticks of yesteryear"

Mr Bojanglez
01-21-2009, 11:39 AM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01212009/sports/devils/like_old_times_for_shanahan_151119.htm

One could look at these quotes from Brendan and say that they were small digs at his previous employers and so called "fans". Others could simply say that he is just sticking up for himself and believes he can still play.

I guess what you believe in, is up to you. ;)

eh, I wouldn't look too far into it. I think its just the truth, really. He needs to prove it to himself, over anyone else.

Richer's Ghost
01-21-2009, 11:41 AM
This also results in creating the convenient aspect of generating a ****load more revenue than "sticks of yesteryear"

now why would a company that profits from the buying of sticks make a 1-piece stick that had no residual value after it broke... and why wouldn't they make that stick last as long as possible through superior design and materials???

The same reason we can make a knife that needs no sharpening for 10 years, yet can't make a razor blade last more than a week...

STEP 3:

britdevil
01-21-2009, 11:42 AM
eh, I wouldn't look too far into it. I think its just the truth, really. He needs to prove it to himself, over anyone else.

He ignores the people that only look at his birth certificate. I think that's pretty telling. Our Rangers friends always like to remind us how Sather pimps up his young team, maybe this is a slight hint as to why Papa Sather never offered the old boy a contract...

:sarcasm:

crashlanding
01-21-2009, 01:23 PM
You guys do realize that they make tapered shafts and tapered blades right? :shakehead

The only difference between a one piece stick and a blade/shaft combo is that the one piece stick is bonded in the factory. If you cut a one piece stick in the right spot you can put a blade in.

Gunnar Stahl 30
01-21-2009, 02:09 PM
You guys do realize that they make tapered shafts and tapered blades right? :shakehead

The only difference between a one piece stick and a blade/shaft combo is that the one piece stick is bonded in the factory. If you cut a one piece stick in the right spot you can put a blade in.

this is true, MOST one piece sticks are just a two piece tapered shaft and blade bonded to look like a one piece, but for the high end models, the one 95, s17, 10k etc they are actual true one pieces made right out of the machine as a one piece

crashlanding
01-21-2009, 02:30 PM
this is true, MOST one piece sticks are just a two piece tapered shaft and blade bonded to look like a one piece, but for the high end models, the one 95, s17, 10k etc they are actual true one pieces made right out of the machine as a one piece
The material is still laid up separately. They just put them together before its fully cured, you're still going to have a piece that's shaft and a piece that's blade.

Chico Resch
01-21-2009, 02:49 PM
Kind of sort of related...


With Warrior buying Montreal, does that mean the end of good quality wont ever break unless you really try wooden sticks?

I have 3 I might have to sit on now..

Gunnar Stahl 30
01-21-2009, 02:53 PM
The material is still laid up separately. They just put them together before its fully cured, you're still going to have a piece that's shaft and a piece that's blade.

i really dont think so with the sticks i listed in my previous post. normally with a one piece you can feel where it is tapered but with the one 95, you cant feel anything. And even with the one 95 they offer a 2 piece system which is not tapered, so that leads me to believe that the one piece one 95 isnt actually a 2 piece that is bonded but infact a true one piece

crashlanding
01-21-2009, 04:46 PM
i really dont think so with the sticks i listed in my previous post. normally with a one piece you can feel where it is tapered but with the one 95, you cant feel anything. And even with the one 95 they offer a 2 piece system which is not tapered, so that leads me to believe that the one piece one 95 isnt actually a 2 piece that is bonded but infact a true one piece
Composites don't work that way. The forces experienced by the shaft are quite different than those experienced by the blade so they need to have different fiber orientations. I went to Easton's website, they use prepreg material so they lay up the shaft and blade separately. Easton says that they are bonded prior to curing rather than after so it is a more solid joint, but the fact remains that the blade and the shaft are different parts.

Gunnar Stahl 30
01-21-2009, 05:36 PM
Composites don't work that way. The forces experienced by the shaft are quite different than those experienced by the blade so they need to have different fiber orientations. I went to Easton's website, they use prepreg material so they lay up the shaft and blade separately. Easton says that they are bonded prior to curing rather than after so it is a more solid joint, but the fact remains that the blade and the shaft are different parts.

i gotcha, im not sure if thats what n/b do or rbk, but i just read it and yea they are 2 different pieces but im pretty sure you still cant repace the blade if it breaks because they mold the shaft and blade together at teh "molding stage and not post molding stage"

BenedictGomez
01-21-2009, 06:42 PM
The same reason we can make a knife that needs no sharpening for 10 years, yet can't make a razor blade last more than a week...

When Gillete releases a new "better" razor blade they raise the price so it's the highest blade in the product suite. But the amazing thing is they also raise the price of the former "best" blade in the product suite at the same time. So whether you switch or not, you're getting the increase.



The only difference between a one piece stick and a blade/shaft combo is that the one piece stick is bonded in the factory. If you cut a one piece stick in the right spot you can put a blade in.

Now WTH is realistically going to buy a zillion dollar stick and do this himself and risk that? :huh:

MoonDragn
01-21-2009, 06:53 PM
Hmm I thought this thread was about Shanahan? I admit he needs a shave and all...

daveskirtun
01-21-2009, 07:06 PM
Brendan with 2 goals, 1 assist tonight

DevilsFan38
01-21-2009, 07:19 PM
When Gillete releases a new "better" razor blade they raise the price so it's the highest blade in the product suite. But the amazing thing is they also raise the price of the former "best" blade in the product suite at the same time. So whether you switch or not, you're getting the increase.



Now WTH is realistically going to buy a zillion dollar stick and do this himself and risk that? :huh:
That's if you break the blade, then you can try and convert it into a shaft.

But yes, Shanahan. Great game on Monday...

Harrison Ford
01-21-2009, 07:30 PM
Brendan with 2 goals, 1 assist tonight

:yo:

crashlanding
01-21-2009, 07:31 PM
That's if you break the blade, then you can try and convert it into a shaft.

But yes, Shanahan. Great game on Monday...
:biglaugh: Say we did get kind of off topic, didn't we. Which way is the equipment thread?

Gunnar Stahl 30
01-21-2009, 07:39 PM
That's if you break the blade, then you can try and convert it into a shaft.

But yes, Shanahan. Great game on Monday...

i dont think so with the s17, i dont think they can because they make it a different so i dont think you can with that or a few others. though i think crash disagrees

Das Uber
01-21-2009, 07:49 PM
:biglaugh: Say we did get kind of off topic, didn't we. Which way is the equipment thread?

This is the second time the Shanahan thread turned into an equipment thread.

NJDraft
01-22-2009, 03:44 AM
He's faster now, than Dave Andreychuk was in his prime.

brule2000
01-22-2009, 08:29 AM
He's faster now, than Dave Andreychuk was in his prime.

Dave Andreychuk is faster now than he was in his prime.:laugh: