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Kristia28 01-14-2009, 04:35 PM This Is From CJ's TICKET Thread. But it is all good information:
(The Ticket Thread Is Here (http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=550930))
Info about the Prudential Center (http://www.prucenter.com/)
FAQ's regarding the Prudential Center (including camera info) (http://www.prucenter.com/default.asp?prucenter=117&urlkeyword=FAQs)
Restaurant Info (http://devils.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=41938)
Directions/Parking (http://devils.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=41772)
Pre-Paid Parking (http://www.clickandpark.com/apps/events?m=list&venue_id=57)
Mass Transit Info (http://devils.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=42035)
Box Office Info (http://devils.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=41920)
Seating Chart (Devils shoot twice towards the right - section 2-4) (http://devils.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=41796)
Local Watering Holes:
Arena Bar (http://www.thearenalounge.com/)
Hell's Kitchen (http://www.hellskitchenlounge.com/)
Scully's (http://www.scullyspublichouse.com/)
Brick City Bar and Grill (http://www.brickcitybarandgrill.com/)
Sixty Park Grill (http://www.60parkgrill.com/)
Market Street Grill (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=market+street+grill+newark+nj&fb=1&split=1&gl=us&view=text&latlng=3325092153414138059)
The Spot Lounge (http://www.atthespot.net/)
Sagres Bar & Grill (http://www.zagat.com/Verticals/PropertyDetails.aspx?VID=8&R=100116882)
Hotel Information:
Hilton Hotel in Newark (www.hilton.com)
Robert Treat Hotel (www.bergerorg.com)
Hampton Inn in Harrison (www.hamptoninnandsuitesnewark.com)
*The Prudential Center is not far from Newark Airport, so you can always find hotels near there as well.*
Autograph Information:
For Devils autographs it's on Lafeyette Street, walking towards Broad Street, right before the VIP parking garage. You'll probably see a bunch of people standing out there.
For visiting teams it's on Edison Street, walking towards Broad Street, right past the Devils Den (directly opposite from where the home team comes out).
Mr Bojanglez 01-14-2009, 04:36 PM YEA eat it CJ
cj225 01-14-2009, 04:36 PM YEA eat it CJ
Hahahahahaha....the last post keeps changing!
You're still lucky!
Mr Bojanglez 01-14-2009, 04:38 PM I liked my last post though
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-14-2009, 04:43 PM Part III? So this thread will involve the Wild West and involve Mary Steenburgen
DevilBesideYou 01-14-2009, 10:49 PM Jeff V. still wants Nets to play at the Rock (http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2009/01/new_jersey_devils_owner_still.html)
Vanderbeek said the Devils were open to the idea of hosting Nets preseason games at the Rock as a way to showcase the 2-year-old Prudential Center to the team's fans, and that the team was working on its proposal when the Nets went public and called off the negotiations.
"I'm very surprised by the last couple of days, put it that way," Vanderbeek said, and then referred all questions to his letter to Yormark.
In the letter, Vanderbeek said the Nets wanted the Devils to guarantee regular-season gate for the three preseason games, even though the Nets would not bill its season-ticket holders.
"As you know, preseason games typically play to half the audience of a regular-season game," he wrote. "That is a difficult position to start from but we were preparing a program that would make sense for the Rock and the Nets."
<snip>
Yormark, reached before the Nets played Boston last night, said he was willing to reopen negotiations -- but to a point.
"As someone said earlier, if we can reduce the burden to our season-ticket holders, I shouldn't be responsible for selling tickets at another person's building," Yormark said. "And if the Prudential Center is viable for all sporting events and concerts, they should have the wherewithal to sell tickets and put on a great show for fans in Newark. That is their responsibility...
"My point is, I'm willing to have a conversation with (Vanderbeek) and Devils management if they meet the parameters that we set forth -- which is to guarantee the same dates we have at the Izod Center (for preseason games), and take responsibility to promote and sell tickets. We would collaborate and assist in this effort. But the risk is on them -- they need to sell seats."
:laugh::laugh::laugh::help:
What a cluster****.
devilzrule27 01-14-2009, 11:02 PM Jeff V. still wants Nets to play at the Rock (http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2009/01/new_jersey_devils_owner_still.html)
:laugh::laugh::laugh::help:
What a cluster****.
What this all means is that the Nets don't want their fans to expierience a state of the art arena because they will then realize that the Izod centre is an even bigger dump then they had thought and that the Barclay's Arena will never get built. In other words they don't want to be big ol' teases to their fans.
I want the Nets in Newark. They will probably draw well and that means more money in the hands of the devils. Plus since we own the place we still get all the prime dates. The Nets just need to oust their owner and give up that Brooklyn pipe dream. Come to Newark. Embrace the lovely state of the art arena. Also instill Lou Lams back as CEO so they can be good again.
Jiri Bicek 01-14-2009, 11:09 PM I hope JV gets Yormark to help with the Devs marketing as part of the deal
BenedictGomez 01-14-2009, 11:24 PM I hope JV gets Yormark to help with the Devs marketing as part of the deal
That's a joke, right?
Obviously the guy suffers from extreme delusions of grandeur. Who with a sane and functional mind acts like you're doing someone a massive favor letting then host 3 PRESEASON NBA games that will have a total gate of 12 people?
EDIT: The other amusing subtle thing about this is that all these articles are in The Star-Ledger, which in everything they write is 100% biased for the Nets and Izod and aligned against the Devils and The Rock. Yet these articles are so over-the-top ridiculous you'd have to be a toolbox to take their arguments seriously and/or not realize how biased they are.
jkrdevil 01-14-2009, 11:30 PM That's a joke, right?
Obviously the guy suffers from extreme delusions of grandeur. Who with a sane and functional mind acts like you're doing someone a massive favor letting then host 3 PRESEASON NBA games that will have a total gate of 12 people?.
Isn't 12 people a regular season gate for the Nets?
DevilBesideYou 01-14-2009, 11:50 PM Isn't 12 people a regular season gate for the Nets?
So what's 12 x $0.75?
jkrdevil 01-15-2009, 12:16 AM So what's 12 x $0.75?
9 dollars
DevFan-RU- 01-15-2009, 12:17 AM El Oh El... the Nets ownership goons are at it again.
Classic Devil 01-15-2009, 12:20 AM I want the Nets in Newark too. The Devils would get a take on their proceeds.
DevFan-RU- 01-15-2009, 12:22 AM http://sportstwo.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=82
A Nets forum. Showing my colors and my support there for a move to Newark.
DevilBesideYou 01-15-2009, 12:41 AM 9 dollars
I don't think that's even enough for a Devils cheeseburger.
Harrison Ford 01-15-2009, 12:42 AM I don't think that's even enough for a Devils cheeseburger.
depends if you want to be dying of thirst or not afterwords.
BenedictGomez 01-15-2009, 01:34 AM I don't think that's even enough for a Devils cheeseburger.
I'm pretty sure the "Devils Cheeseburge with fries" (which is quite tasty btw) is $8.75
DevilBesideYou 01-15-2009, 01:38 AM I'm pretty sure the "Devils Cheeseburge with fries" (which is quite tasty btw) is $8.75
I thought it was $9, but I bow to your superior knowledge of the food stands at the Rock.
BenedictGomez 01-15-2009, 01:45 AM I thought it was $9, but I bow to your superior knowledge of the food stands at the Rock.
It might well be $9. I know it was $8.75 last year, but a lot of the prices changed (upward of course) slightly, and I never bothered to "rememorize" them so to speak.
Mr Bojanglez 01-15-2009, 10:45 AM Devils Cheeserburger is the Winzzzz. It's nowhere near as hot as the chicken fingers... which are just lathered in wing sauce. The burger is cooked with it... so it actually absorbs it.
Only problem? They take forever to make! But soooo good!
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-15-2009, 11:06 AM http://sportstwo.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=82
Now I have certainly seen everything.
It makes me think in a seperate dimension ala "Sliders" I sit at work all day in a Nets hat browsing a Nets forum.
Ugh
Is Ratner still going with his original design for the inside of Barclays? The one with the cute drapes? The one that looked like its sponsored by HGTV?
Jiri Bicek 01-15-2009, 11:11 AM That's a joke, right?
Obviously the guy suffers from extreme delusions of grandeur. Who with a sane and functional mind acts like you're doing someone a massive favor letting then host 3 PRESEASON NBA games that will have a total gate of 12 people?
EDIT: The other amusing subtle thing about this is that all these articles are in The Star-Ledger, which in everything they write is 100% biased for the Nets and Izod and aligned against the Devils and The Rock. Yet these articles are so over-the-top ridiculous you'd have to be a toolbox to take their arguments seriously and/or not realize how biased they are.
For as much hate as they receive from negative NBA fans, the Nets market their team a lot better, and with more exposure, than the Devils do.. Ticket deals, billboards, commercials, advertising, etc. Yormark does his job well
I don't understand such hate towards a possibility of the Nets playing their either.. It's not like it's going to take you away from Devils game and force you to watch the Nets
Clarkson Falls Down 01-15-2009, 12:24 PM Give the Rock the Nets. So what that they would share an arena with the Devils? Are their fans going to be in your seats at a Devils game? Are they going to affect the average Devils fan in any way? No.
I see it as a great financial opportunity for the Devils.
Mr Bojanglez 01-15-2009, 12:31 PM would the Nets attendance draw be enough to justify opening up the arena and stocking all the food courts?
Clarkson Falls Down 01-15-2009, 12:53 PM would the Nets attendance draw be enough to justify opening up the arena and stocking all the food courts?
If the Nets moved to the Rock, I could guarantee that their attendance would be at least similar to the Devils.
It's not like the Nets play in a minor league like that dopey indoor soccer team did.
BenedictGomez 01-15-2009, 01:05 PM I don't understand such hate towards a possibility of the Nets playing their either.. It's not like it's going to take you away from Devils game and force you to watch the Nets
Like others have said, I like the arena being a pure hockey venue. I dont want 1/2 of the hockey pics and stuff on the walls torn down and replaced with 1/2 basketball stuff, which is exactly what would happen.
As for $$$$, this deal is so profitable for the Devils, their financial health is ensured regardless of the Nets. Would the Nets add to profit? Of course, but I'm not one of JVDB's grandchildren, so that's not my #1 concern. Lastly, I loathe the NBA, it's a league of thugs.
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-15-2009, 01:08 PM Like others have said, I like the arena being a pure hockey venue. I dont want 1/2 of the hockey pics and stuff on the walls torn down and replaced with 1/2 basketball stuff, which is exactly what would happen.
As for $$$$, this deal is so profitable for the Devils, their financial health is ensured regardless of the Nets. Would the Nets add to profit? Of course, but I'm not one of JVDB's grandchildren, so that's not my #1 concern. Lastly, I loathe the NBA, it's a league of thugs.
Exactly.
We make plenty of money with just the Devils, let JVB concentrate on getting more and more concerts into Newark.
The Devils were the whipping boy of the NJSEA no longer, we did it on our own, let the Nets suffer. Ratner made his bed, he stabbed a knife in the state of New Jersey's back.
devilzrule27 01-15-2009, 01:09 PM If the Nets moved to the Rock, I could guarantee that their attendance would be at least similar to the Devils.
It's not like the Nets play in a minor league like that dopey indoor soccer team did.
I think the Nets would do really well n the area. Its an easy place to get to and fans from new york, with the knicks currently sucking, can just hop on a train and get there in no time. Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if on some nights they would outdraw the Devils by a few thousand.
BenedictGomez 01-15-2009, 01:12 PM I think the Nets would do really well n the area. Its an easy place to get to and fans from new york, with the knicks currently sucking, can just hop on a train and get there in no time. Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if on some nights they would outdraw the Devils by a few thousand.
There's a lot of false logic here. So.....the Knicks are sucking.....so Knicks fans hop on a train and go see Nets games? :huh:
If the Devils were sucking, would you hop on a train to go see the Rangers play? I think not.
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-15-2009, 01:13 PM I think the Nets would do really well n the area. Its an easy place to get to and fans from new york, with the knicks currently sucking, can just hop on a train and get there in no time. Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if on some nights they would outdraw the Devils by a few thousand.
Not when they have to give half the tickets away to get their attendance over the 4 digit mark. The Nets are the ultimate paperers. At least our average attendance is legit, you can get Nets tickets on Ticketmaster for 75 cents, no joke.
Maybe its because I still live in the suburbs but I have yet to see a piece of Nets apparel that wasnt on a homeless person.
I hate the NBA, keep it out.
BenedictGomez 01-15-2009, 01:16 PM The Devils were the whipping boy of the NJSEA no longer, we did it on our own, let the Nets suffer. Ratner made his bed, he stabbed a knife in the state of New Jersey's back.
Pretty much. And on a serious note? Does anyone like the Nets anyway?
Seriously, not meant at a petty comment. I grew up in NJ and I dont think I remember anyone in my entire high school that gave a rats azz about the Nets.
Sure, their attendance the last few years is about 15,000 which is the same as the Devils, but everyone knows the announced attendance of Nets games is a joke.
When the Devils announce 15,000 it looks like 14,000 people are there.
When the Nets announce 15,000 it looks like 6,924 people are there.
devilzrule27 01-15-2009, 01:23 PM There's a lot of false logic here. So.....the Knicks are sucking.....so Knicks fans hop on a train and go see Nets games? :huh:
If the Devils were sucking, would you hop on a train to go see the Rangers play? I think not.
If the Knicks are bad and the Nets a good you can convert some bandwagon fans. Thats what i'm talking about. It's a good way to steal some fan away. The Nets have to come through on their part as well and win some games and make the playoffs.
devilzrule27 01-15-2009, 01:25 PM Not when they have to give half the tickets away to get their attendance over the 4 digit mark. The Nets are the ultimate paperers. At least our average attendance is legit, you can get Nets tickets on Ticketmaster for 75 cents, no joke.
Maybe its because I still live in the suburbs but I have yet to see a piece of Nets apparel that wasnt on a homeless person.
I hate the NBA, keep it out.
Is it? I've been to many a game where the announced is much higher then the actual. It isn't as bad as some of the Nets games I've been to but still.
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-15-2009, 01:27 PM Pretty much. And on a serious note? Does anyone like the Nets anyway?
Seriously, not meant at a petty comment. I grew up in NJ and I dont think I remember anyone in my entire high school that gave a rats azz about the Nets.
Sure, their attendance the last few years is about 15,000 which is the same as the Devils, but everyone knows the announced attendance of Nets games is a joke.
When the Devils announce 15,000 it looks like 14,000 people are there.
When the Nets announce 15,000 it looks like 6,924 people are there.
Honestly I cannot remember the last time I saw Nets or Knicks attire around here. I see Devils and Rangers swag everywhere. Even though hockey is niche it seems to be blowing up again kind of like 1995.
I knew NBA fans when Jordan was playing, I do not know a single one. ESPN keeps this lame sport on life support I swear to god.
devilzrule27 01-15-2009, 01:28 PM Pretty much. And on a serious note? Does anyone like the Nets anyway?
Seriously, not meant at a petty comment. I grew up in NJ and I dont think I remember anyone in my entire high school that gave a rats azz about the Nets.
Sure, their attendance the last few years is about 15,000 which is the same as the Devils, but everyone knows the announced attendance of Nets games is a joke.
When the Devils announce 15,000 it looks like 14,000 people are there.
When the Nets announce 15,000 it looks like 6,924 people are there.
I'm a Nets fan. I used to love basketball as much as hockey. I used to go to Nets games all the time as a kid. I loved the ones where there would be Basketball/Hockey double headers. Throw off my Van Horn jersey and switch to my Neids jersey. Fun Times. Now I don't follow it as much any more since the league has gone down hill as far a quality but if they came to newark i would certainly go to more games.
If the Nets managed to get a star player their attendance would blow up. Come on Lebron.
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-15-2009, 01:30 PM Is it? I've been to many a game where the announced is much higher then the actual. It isn't as bad as some of the Nets games I've been to but still.
On a midweek night the Devils will paper 1,000 at best. I watched the Nets home opener from a Newark Penn bar after a Devils game, it was the 4th quarter of a close game and their was no one there, the announced crowd was 18,000 or so.
Every team papers, NHL and NBA, but the Nets do it to a point where its laughable. And for some reason they were the NJSEA's darlings.
Eat it Ratner.
BenedictGomez 01-15-2009, 01:36 PM Honestly I cannot remember the last time I saw Nets or Knicks attire around here. I see Devils and Rangers swag everywhere. Even though hockey is niche it seems to be blowing up again kind of like 1995.
I knew NBA fans when Jordan was playing, I do not know a single one. ESPN keeps this lame sport on life support I swear to god.
QFT. It's my personal belief (with absolutely no evidence to support it) that the NBA is in far worse financial condition than anyone with inside information will let on.
devilzrule27 01-15-2009, 01:42 PM QFT. It's my personal belief (with absolutely no evidence to support it) that the NBA is in far worse financial condition than anyone with inside information will let on.
i would agree with that other then the fact that they have sweet TV contracts with espn and tnt that pay a boatload of money. Plus teams in LA, NY, Boston, and Chicago, support the entire league.
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-15-2009, 01:48 PM i would agree with that other then the fact that they have sweet TV contracts with espn and tnt that pay a boatload of money. Plus teams in LA, NY, Boston, and Chicago, support the entire league.
Thats the thing that plays into my little conspiracy theory. God bless the NBA's marketing department because they take a truly horrid and boring brand of basketball and make it thrive in the public eye. Its a terrible sport which means nothing until the final 5 minutes of regulation. Not to mention the traveling gets worse every year, do they even dribble anymore?
I would like to take ESPN away from the NBA and put it on The Outdoor Life channel and see how it does.
I know it seems like I am going overboard, it just pisses me off that the NBA gets more attention than the sport that truly deserves it.
devilzrule27 01-15-2009, 01:49 PM Thats the thing that plays into my little conspiracy theory. God bless the NBA's marketing department because they take a truly horrid and boring brand of basketball and make it thrive in the public eye. Its a terrible sport which means nothing until the final 5 minutes of regulation. Not to mention the traveling gets worse every year, do they even dribble anymore?
I would like to take ESPN away from the NBA and put it on The Outdoor Life channel and see how it does.
I know it seems like I am going overboard, it just pisses me off that the NBA gets more attention than the sport that truly deserves it.
maybe one day the players will actually start playing basketball again. That's what i'm holding out for.
jkrdevil 01-15-2009, 02:11 PM On a midweek night the Devils will paper 1,000 at best. I watched the Nets home opener from a Newark Penn bar after a Devils game, it was the 4th quarter of a close game and their was no one there, the announced crowd was 18,000 or so.
Every team papers, NHL and NBA, but the Nets do it to a point where its laughable. And for some reason they were the NJSEA's darlings.
Eat it Ratner.
I remember in 02-03 after the Nets went to the NBA Final the year before the NBA scheduled them to host a Christmas day game against I think the Lakers. To no surpise a Christmas Day Nets game wasn't eactly a huge seller in Northern NJ. THe game wasn't close to being a sellout and Stern had to come in and give away a whole bunch of tickets so the league wouldn't be embarassed by having an half empty arena for its showcase game.
If you look at the Forbes numbers lat year the Devils took in 11 million dollars more in gate reciepts (ticket sales) than the Nets did last year. The only thing that makes the Nets Revenue on par with the Devils is the ESPN and TNT money they get for the rights to Lakers and Celtic games.
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/31/nhl08_New-Jersey-Devils_313149.html
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/32/nba08_New-Jersey-Nets_323869.html
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-15-2009, 02:16 PM The Devils are 10th in value in the NHL, always makes me smile. Jeff VBK may get alot of heat for the high ticket prices but it looks like he knows what hes doing.
The Nets are valued 26th in the NBA. :laugh:
AEG, a unit of the Anschutz Company, runs the arena for the Devils, and did a fabulous job of promoting and booking events. Boxing, college basketball, concerts and dance contests brought in money to the Devils, who get the lion's share of the building's revenue, which they could only dream about when they played at the Meadowlands. The final cost of the new arena was $380 million, with the Devils footing $170 million.
No thank you Nets.
Putting this into perspective, the New Jersey Devils make more money than the Minnesota Wild, a team who will sell out every game until the end of time.
Yeah I guess ticket prices dont matter. :sarcasm:
devilzrule27 01-15-2009, 02:25 PM The Devils are 10th in value in the NHL, always makes me smile. Jeff VBK may get alot of heat for the high ticket prices but it looks like he knows what hes doing.
The Nets are valued 26th in the NBA. :laugh:
No thank you Nets.
Putting this into perspective, the New Jersey Devils make more money than the Minnesota Wild, a team who will sell out every game until the end of time.
Yeah I guess ticket prices dont matter. :sarcasm:
that article about Lou and the Nets mentioned how he told the Nets ownership that as long as you win the value of the ticket will keep going up. You may not have the huge crowds but you make the same amount of money because of the value.
Finn Wentworth, the president of YankeeNets, has been an outspoken supporter of Lamoriello. ''The team has never been better, the victories speak for themselves,'' he said in a telephone interview on Friday. ''In the two years that Lou Lamoriello has been there, the winning on the court and the ticket revenue have never been better. The new fan conversion has never been seen like it's occurring now. The man's the consummate professional.''
A year before Lamoriello took over the Nets, the team said it lost $32 million. During his first season, the Kidd trade was made, the Nets broke even at the gate and the team reached the N.B.A. finals. This season, Thorn and Lamoriello made significant moves to improve. They traded Keith Van Horn, freeing up playing time for Richard Jefferson. Rodney Rogers, signed as a free agent, has struggled at times but has also been a contributor. Chris Childs was a bust. Dikembe Mutombo has not played consistently, but could be crucial if the Nets play San Antonio in the finals.
Marv4Life 01-15-2009, 03:26 PM Like others have said, I like the arena being a pure hockey venue. I dont want 1/2 of the hockey pics and stuff on the walls torn down and replaced with 1/2 basketball stuff, which is exactly what would happen.
As for $$$$, this deal is so profitable for the Devils, their financial health is ensured regardless of the Nets. Would the Nets add to profit? Of course, but I'm not one of JVDB's grandchildren, so that's not my #1 concern. Lastly, I loathe the NBA, it's a league of thugs.
Don't you think for the health and viability of the Prudential Center, in the long run it would be worth it? Besides, some of those murals are tacky to be honest.
As far as attendance and whether they will draw some people, if they are still in the playoff race they will draw as much, if not more, than the Devils. People also forget that NBA in today's America pwns NHL, with a couple of exceptions(ie Wild/T-Wolves). Face it: Lebron, Kobe, Shaq, Dirk, D-Wade, AI, Timmah, Yao, Artest, and a rejuvenated Celtics team will own Crysby, Malkin, Vinny Lax, Ovy, Kovy, and the Flyers/Rangers if or when both teams are under the same roof. Thug league or not. Casual fans know who Chris Bosh is but don't know who Phil Kessel is.
BenedictGomez 01-15-2009, 03:29 PM Casual fans know who Chris Bosh is but don't know who Phil Kessel is.
Who?*
*not kidding, I seriously have no idea who that is, and judging that I gather it's a NBA player, I have no desire to GOOG it either
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-15-2009, 03:32 PM Casual fans know who Chris Bosh
Nope
Jiri Bicek 01-15-2009, 04:21 PM Like others have said, I like the arena being a pure hockey venue. I dont want 1/2 of the hockey pics and stuff on the walls torn down and replaced with 1/2 basketball stuff, which is exactly what would happen.
As for $$$$, this deal is so profitable for the Devils, their financial health is ensured regardless of the Nets. Would the Nets add to profit? Of course, but I'm not one of JVDB's grandchildren, so that's not my #1 concern. Lastly, I loathe the NBA, it's a league of thugs.
And on a serious note? Does anyone like the Nets anyway?
Seriously, not meant at a petty comment. I grew up in NJ and I dont think I remember anyone in my entire high school that gave a rats azz about the Nets.
Sure, their attendance the last few years is about 15,000 which is the same as the Devils, but everyone knows the announced attendance of Nets games is a joke.
When the Devils announce 15,000 it looks like 14,000 people are there.
When the Nets announce 15,000 it looks like 6,924 people are there.
I don't think Vanderbeek will go through a re-make of the arena to fit to the Nets color scheme and such.. We already share the arena for basketball and concerts.. So what if a few measly pictures would go up?
I couldn't imagine them doing a remake of the arena, so much, that it would outrage Devil fans and their game experience..
Around the Kidd-era (the good one), the Nets were very popular.. They were winning, they were exciting.. Basketball games had a buzz around them.. I started seeing Nets gear all over the place.. Th e place had legit attendance numbers.. I went to a ton of games
Enter Rat****... Talks about moving to Brooklyn, removing the NJ name, cutting costs.. It all blew up as fast as it gaining momentum..
Newark and big names in 2010 can equal success for the Nets.. I actually think they would outdraw the Devils
kilxler 01-15-2009, 04:50 PM Don't you think for the health and viability of the Prudential Center, in the long run it would be worth it? Besides, some of those murals are tacky to be honest.
As far as attendance and whether they will draw some people, if they are still in the playoff race they will draw as much, if not more, than the Devils. People also forget that NBA in today's America pwns NHL, with a couple of exceptions(ie Wild/T-Wolves). Face it: Lebron, Kobe, Shaq, Dirk, D-Wade, AI, Timmah, Yao, Artest, and a rejuvenated Celtics team will own Crysby, Malkin, Vinny Lax, Ovy, Kovy, and the Flyers/Rangers if or when both teams are under the same roof. Thug league or not. Casual fans know who Chris Bosh is but don't know who Phil Kessel is.
Actually the NBA has been loosing alot of popularity in the Past years I would say right now NHL is getting close to being neck to neck with the NBA I say give it a few more years. I used to be a huge NBA fan myself and now it doesn't interest me because it doesn't have the talent and everyone just plays for the dollar and not the team anymore unlike NHL.
Now the smartest move the Nets can do is play in Newark. It's a no brainer I bet the 1000 people that actually pay to go to IZOD would be 5X better at the rock instead of all the comp tickets and 75cent price ticktes they are paying for. Move to Newark because there they will have a home fan base especially the Northern Part of Newark will come down to see them. Change the colors to the same one as the Devils and start a new Marketing plan "New Home Same Floor" lol or something like that. That team needs a transformation because to be honest Brooklyn will never happen especially in this Economy.
kilxler 01-15-2009, 04:54 PM By the way IZOD needs to be closed it's a dump and why would I go to see a concert there when the concerts are so much better at the Rock and dare I say it the local atmosphere is great!!! Yea I said it it's fun being in Newark! LOL!!!!
devilzrule27 01-15-2009, 05:01 PM I don't think Vanderbeek will go through a re-make of the arena to fit to the Nets color scheme and such.. We already share the arena for basketball and concerts.. So what if a few measly pictures would go up?
I couldn't imagine them doing a remake of the arena, so much, that it would outrage Devil fans and their game experience..
Around the Kidd-era (the good one), the Nets were very popular.. They were winning, they were exciting.. Basketball games had a buzz around them.. I started seeing Nets gear all over the place.. Th e place had legit attendance numbers.. I went to a ton of games
Enter Rat****... Talks about moving to Brooklyn, removing the NJ name, cutting costs.. It all blew up as fast as it gaining momentum..
Newark and big names in 2010 can equal success for the Nets.. I actually think they would outdraw the Devils
the nets used to have decent crowds and real fans. I loved going to games. Ratner ruined the nets. **** him. I hope he dies or has an epiphany that his stupid Brooklyn idea was/is terrible.
Jiri Bicek 01-15-2009, 05:12 PM the nets used to have decent crowds and real fans. I loved going to games. Ratner ruined the nets. **** him. I hope he dies or has an epiphany that his stupid Brooklyn idea was/is terrible.
Game 4 in 2003 against the Pistons in the ECF.. The Kidd scare..One of the best games and crowds I've been a part of in any sport..The place was crazy..
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/2003/05/25/2003-05-25_nets_streak_back_to_final_sw.html
It's like night and day with Nets games and how they used to compare
jkrdevil 01-15-2009, 05:14 PM the nets used to have decent crowds and real fans. I loved going to games. Ratner ruined the nets. **** him. I hope he dies or has an epiphany that his stupid Brooklyn idea was/is terrible.
Yep,
http://blogpistolero.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/derrickcoleman.jpg
devilzrule27 01-15-2009, 05:31 PM Yep,
http://blogpistolero.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/derrickcoleman.jpg
still better then this. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Thrashers_Philips_Arena.jpg
HBK27 01-15-2009, 06:07 PM Don't you think for the health and viability of the Prudential Center, in the long run it would be worth it? Besides, some of those murals are tacky to be honest.
As far as attendance and whether they will draw some people, if they are still in the playoff race they will draw as much, if not more, than the Devils. People also forget that NBA in today's America pwns NHL, with a couple of exceptions(ie Wild/T-Wolves). Face it: Lebron, Kobe, Shaq, Dirk, D-Wade, AI, Timmah, Yao, Artest, and a rejuvenated Celtics team will own Crysby, Malkin, Vinny Lax, Ovy, Kovy, and the Flyers/Rangers if or when both teams are under the same roof. Thug league or not. Casual fans know who Chris Bosh is but don't know who Phil Kessel is.
It may be a selfish view, but what's in it for me if the Nets were to come to Newark? Sure, it's good for the Prudential Center...which is turn is good for the Devils, but how will that actually improve anything for the Devils that's tangible for the fans? The team is still making money & spends up to the salary cap already, so it's not like that influx of cash from the Nets gates is going to help them build a better team. I doubt Vanderbeek will use any of that cash to offset the high ticket prices either. On the negative side though, having another tenent means less weekend dates available. And even if some some of those murals are tacky, I still prefer them over basketball crap. So no, at this moment it's really not worth it.
And btw, I have no clue who Chris Bosh is.
Harrison Ford 01-15-2009, 06:10 PM LOL at that thrashers pic
jkrdevil 01-15-2009, 06:22 PM LOL at that thrashers pic
To be fair that picture was taken during warmups over 30 minutes before the game. I'm going to guess most arenas are mostly empty during that time.
Classic Devil 01-15-2009, 06:24 PM It may be a selfish view, but what's in it for me if the Nets were to come to Newark? Sure, it's good for the Prudential Center...which is turn is good for the Devils, but how will that actually improve anything for the Devils that's tangible for the fans? The team is still making money & spends up to the salary cap already, so it's not like that influx of cash from the Nets gates is going to help them build a better team. I doubt Vanderbeek will use any of that cash to offset the high ticket prices either. On the negative side though, having another tenent means less weekend dates available. And even if some some of those murals are tacky, I still prefer them over basketball crap. So no, at this moment it's really not worth it.
And btw, I have no clue who Chris Bosh is.
You want the franchise to be as profitable as possible for as long as possible, to guarantee future financial stability. If bringing the Nets to Newark helps, I say go for it.
DevilBesideYou 01-15-2009, 07:16 PM Some of the murals are tacky, but I'd want them replaced with better Devils stuff, not with Nets stuff.
devilzrule27 01-15-2009, 07:40 PM You want the franchise to be as profitable as possible for as long as possible, to guarantee future financial stability. If bringing the Nets to Newark helps, I say go for it.
exactly plus i like hockey/basketball double headers.
To the poster whom CD quoted, The Devils are most likely lose money this year since attendance is down a bit from last season. The Devs need every source of possible income they can get. Nothing will really change inside the arena either. The Logo's will still be on the chairs, the highschool jerseys will still hang in the concourses and the paintings will stay. Maybe on a few blank walls you find a Nets painting. whoop de do. How the hell does that impact your experience at the arena. I've never heard anyone complain about the Seton Hall paintings.
And as far as dates go we will most likely get first dib on prime dates since we are the primary tenants. i wouldn't worry about losing weekend games. How often do we play 2 home games on weekends. Almost never. And as i said before hockey/basketball double headers are very fun.
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-15-2009, 07:43 PM The Devils are most likely lose money this year since attendance is down a bit from last season.
Nope they still make money hand over foot, even with 14,000 -16,000 in the stands. A sellout I believe is over a million gate if I am not mistaken. And by the way things are going the attendance will probably fall exactly the same as last season.
devilzrule27 01-15-2009, 07:48 PM Nope they still make money hand over foot, even with 14,000 -16,000 in the stands. A sellout I believe is over a million gate if I am not mistaken. And by the way things are going the attendance will probably fall exactly the same as last season.
attendance is down versus last year and the team made just under $2 million net last year plus we are spending more this season. So how do you figure.
BenedictGomez 01-15-2009, 07:50 PM It may be a selfish view, but what's in it for me if the Nets were to come to Newark? Sure, it's good for the Prudential Center...which is turn is good for the Devils, but how will that actually improve anything for the Devils that's tangible for the fans? The team is still making money & spends up to the salary cap already, so it's not like that influx of cash from the Nets gates is going to help them build a better team. I doubt Vanderbeek will use any of that cash to offset the high ticket prices either. On the negative side though, having another tenent means less weekend dates available. And even if some some of those murals are tacky, I still prefer them over basketball crap. So no, at this moment it's really not worth it.
And btw, I have no clue who Chris Bosh is.
Amen to all the bolded bits. As I said, if you're one of JVDB's grandkids, the Nets are great for Newark. If you're a Devils fan? Any positive effects would be VERY minor (if any at all).
devilzrule27 01-15-2009, 07:51 PM Amen to all the bolded bits. As I said, if you're one of JVDB's grandkids, the Nets are great for Newark. If you're a Devils fan? Any positive effects would be VERY minor (if any at all).
The "negative" effects are nothing or very little.
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-15-2009, 07:53 PM attendance is down versus last year and the team made just under $2 million net last year plus we are spending more this season. So how do you figure.
Gate is what is brought in for a nights event.
What are we down by 500 fans a game? Ticket prices went up 10%, that offsets.
I have a funny feeling the final attendance figure it going to match last season. This team isnt ranked 10th in the NHL in value because its losing money, ever since it got out of the CAA its been making money.
God bless you though, you seem to be the only person in NJ not turned off of basketball by Ratner.
devilzrule27 01-15-2009, 08:00 PM Gate is what is brought in for a nights event.
What are we down by 500 fans a game? Ticket prices went up 10%, that offsets.
I have a funny feeling the final attendance figure it going to match last season. This team isnt ranked 10th in the NHL in value because its losing money, ever since it got out of the CAA its been making money.
God bless you though, you seem to be the only person in NJ not turned off of basketball by Ratner.
i hate ratner but doesnt mean i hate the nets. if the devils got some **** owner i wouldn't all of a sudden hate them. and we are still spending more. it will be interesting to see if we do more then break even at seasons end.
Muttley 01-15-2009, 09:53 PM I don't understand such hate towards a possibility of the Nets playing their either.. It's not like it's going to take you away from Devils game and force you to watch the Nets
It seems like a sort of snobbish conceitedness that some Devils fans have and their territorial obsession of keeping the Devils as the only main tenant of that building.
If it wasn't for the New Jersey Nets and their former owner Raymond Chambers, there wouldn't even be a Prudential Center in downtown Newark to begin with. The whole idea and concept of an arena in Newark came from the Nets, not from the Devils.
Their plan for building in Newark was considered much more viable and desirable than that of John McMullen's Hoboken arena plan.
I am forever indebted to the New Jersey Nets as they (and only they) got the ball rolling and created the inertia for the idea of building an arena in Newark.
Not an NBA fan, but I hope to seem them there.
Muttley 01-15-2009, 10:04 PM It may be a selfish view, but what's in it for me if the Nets were to come to Newark?
How about state pride?
For the last 6 years, I have heard nothing but insults, jokes against Newark, criticism of the Prudential Center and the rest of anything to do with New Jersey, from smarmy, greasy New York City politicians like Brooklyn Borough President Marty Markowicz for example. Not to mention that creep Jay Z and and everybody else associated with that Brooklyn pipedream.
Having the Nets move to the exact place that has been so chastised and maligned by the above jerks would be the ultimate revenge.
Jiri Bicek 01-15-2009, 10:07 PM Nets have to keep Jay Z as close as possible.. He hold the key to Lebron's chastity belt
BenedictGomez 01-15-2009, 10:46 PM How about state pride?
Agreed, this is one of the best reasons why they should leave. :sarcasm:
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-15-2009, 10:52 PM Agreed, this is one of the best reasons why they should leave. :sarcasm:
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Muttley 01-15-2009, 11:05 PM Agreed, this is one of the best reasons why they should leave. :sarcasm:
You know, I might agree with you on that somewhat, but the Nets have been somewhat respectable over the last decade (not coincidentally starting when Lou was the Nets CEO), even with the missteps they have made.
If this was the era of the 90's, where they drafted stiffs like Ed O'Bannon & Yinka Stinka Dare, not to mention when they seriously contemplated changing their name to the New Jersey Swamp Dragons, I would wish them good riddance.
jkrdevil 01-15-2009, 11:23 PM You know, I might agree with you on that somewhat, but the Nets have been somewhat respectable over the last decade (coincidentally starting when Lou was the Nets CEO), even with the missteps they have made.
If this was the era of the 90's, where they drafted stiffs like Ed O'Bannon & Yinka Stinka Dare, not to mention when they seriously contemplated changing their name to the New Jersey Swamp Dragons, I would wish them good riddance.
That was no coincidence.
And speaking of the swamp dragons here is the proposed logos (not the best quality obviously):
http://www.logoserver.com/basketball/NJSwampDragons94.GIFhttp://www.logoserver.com/basketball/NJSwampDragons94a.GIFhttp://www.logoserver.com/basketball/NJSwampDragons94b.GIFhttp://www.logoserver.com/basketball/NJSwampDragons94ALT.GIF
Harrison Ford 01-15-2009, 11:27 PM Swamp Dragons? :facepalm:
Muttley 01-15-2009, 11:38 PM That was no coincidence.
fixed it. ;)
HBK27 01-16-2009, 10:21 AM You want the franchise to be as profitable as possible for as long as possible, to guarantee future financial stability. If bringing the Nets to Newark helps, I say go for it.
Yes, you want the franchise to be as profitable for as long as possible...so that the team can continue to spend up to the cap & afford top management, scouting, and whatever talent. As long as they can continue to do that, I'm happy. Currently, we're fine in that aspect, which is why I ended my post with "So no, at this moment it's really not worth it." since I realize this may not be the case in the future & Vanderbeek may need to rely on the income brought in by the Nets to turn a profit. So, fair point about the Nets helping with the long-term profitability of the Devils.
exactly plus i like hockey/basketball double headers.
To the poster whom CD quoted, The Devils are most likely lose money this year since attendance is down a bit from last season. The Devs need every source of possible income they can get. Nothing will really change inside the arena either. The Logo's will still be on the chairs, the highschool jerseys will still hang in the concourses and the paintings will stay. Maybe on a few blank walls you find a Nets painting. whoop de do. How the hell does that impact your experience at the arena. I've never heard anyone complain about the Seton Hall paintings.
And as far as dates go we will most likely get first dib on prime dates since we are the primary tenants. i wouldn't worry about losing weekend games. How often do we play 2 home games on weekends. Almost never. And as i said before hockey/basketball double headers are very fun.
During the fall, most NHL & NBA teams don't play many games on Sundays since that would be in direct competition with the NFL. I suppose basketball-hockey doubleheaders are an options, but then you're sacrificing ice quality. As far as what would change inside the arena, we really don't know how much of a presence the Nets & basketball stuff would have in the corridors should the Nets move there. Seton Hall doesn't have much stuff because there's still a huge difference (especially in this area) between professional & college sports. If the Nets go in, I can see them having much more of a presence than Seton Hall does. I know it's something minor, but it's just awesome to have an arena like that in NJ nonetheless so dedicated to hockey.
DevsOwnYou 01-17-2009, 12:50 AM attendance is down versus last year and the team made just under $2 million net last year plus we are spending more this season. So how do you figure.
Attendance is basically on pace as last season and it will improve with a few big games upcoming and Marty's anticipated return which will spike attendance.
Plus the Club Seats went up in cost and so did some of the concession pricing. The Devils will net more money this season than last season.
dougiebrown 01-21-2009, 10:47 AM Shaq-Fu says, "GET THE NETS TO NEWARK......AND I'LL HELP!!!!":
http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/2009/01/shaquille_oneals_the_man_to_br.html
"But last November, the night before the Suns played the Nets at the Meadowlands, Shaq attended a Devils game at the Rock and got the grand tour from Devils owner Jeff Vanderbeek.
"I heard they were billing it as the No. 1 arena in the world, so I wanted to see for myself -- and I agree," O'Neal said, talking on a cell phone as he rode on the Suns team bus. "The place is great."
He said he told Vanderbeek that night that, if he needed anything at all for the arena, he was prepared to help. You can bet that Vanderbeek saved his number and remembered the promise.
You can bet that anybody serious about keeping this team in New Jersey should rely on one of the most popular players of his generation, and that Shaq is ready and willing.
"I have no idea why the Nets aren't playing there," Shaq said. "It makes no sense. I know they're trying to get to Brooklyn, but if I was the general manager or the owner of that team, I'd be playing in Newark right now."
Imagine, the Nets staying where they belong with one of the all-time greatest players helping them become a fixture in his home city. It would be, of course -- to borrow his word again -- Shaqtastic."
Jiri Bicek 01-21-2009, 12:23 PM Shaq is a free agent in 2010 too.. It would be great for the Nets to bring him home to play (That is if he doesn't retire).. He would definately be a draw
BenedictGomez 01-21-2009, 06:46 PM Shaq is a free agent in 2010 too
I know absolutely nothing about basketball (and I prefer to keep it that way), but he will be 38 in 2010. Is he not showing signs of slowing up?
DevilsFan38 01-21-2009, 07:09 PM I know absolutely nothing about basketball (and I prefer to keep it that way), but he will be 38 in 2010. Is he not showing signs of slowing up?
I don't follow basketball either, but look at who the Devils just signed and how old he is.
Harrison Ford 01-21-2009, 08:34 PM nice play by clemmer
Harrison Ford 01-21-2009, 08:34 PM nice, andrei kostitsyn tried to be a tough guy from behind on parise
Clarkson Falls Down 01-21-2009, 08:47 PM nice, andrei kostitsyn tried to be a tough guy from behind on parise
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5481/lolwutsp3.jpg
Jiri Bicek 01-22-2009, 12:01 AM I know absolutely nothing about basketball (and I prefer to keep it that way), but he will be 38 in 2010. Is he not showing signs of slowing up?
He's having a very strong year this season.. Even as a bench player, he would be a great player to market to the city
Oh, BCB&G bartender... :amazed: Straight out of a porno
BenedictGomez 01-22-2009, 12:04 AM Oh, BCB&G bartender... :amazed: Straight out of a porno
:biglaugh:
lol. Yeah, I dont throw the "porn star" accolade around loosely.
Mr.Krinkle 01-22-2009, 01:51 AM Totally forgot this til now, who the hell was that guy doing the PA tonight?? In comparison to our regular guy, he sucked, I hope our other dude comes back soon.
hockey86 01-22-2009, 02:02 AM Oh, BCB&G bartender... :amazed: Straight out of a porno
Oh yeah!! All of the girls there were nice, me and my friend stayed there for a bit and we got to chat with them quite a bit, and also a few of the devils players came in afterwards :yo:
BenedictGomez 01-23-2009, 01:03 AM o a few of the devils players came in afterwards
Such as?
Sarge18 01-23-2009, 01:25 AM Totally forgot this til now, who the hell was that guy doing the PA tonight?? In comparison to our regular guy, he sucked, I hope our other dude comes back soon.
Yeah I'm surprised more people didn't complain about him. I thought I was at the circus or watching the Price is Right. "LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BOYS AND GIRLS!!" Horrible. Mispronounced names, and the "Welcome back, Brendan Shanahan!!!" I'm sure Lou wasn't happy with that. He was awful to say the least.
hockey86 01-23-2009, 03:00 AM Such as?
Mottau, Oduya, Martin, and Clarkson
Harrison Ford 01-23-2009, 10:08 AM Mottau, Oduya, Martin, and Clarkson
lucky.
MartyOwns 01-27-2009, 11:20 PM hey people
the rangers game on the 9th- i have the best tix i ever had in my life. they are club seats- section 18. my question is this- what comes with these tix? i didn't get the v.i.p. parking, but do i eat for free? can i get hammered for free? if so, where do i go for these luxuries? if this has already been discussed, i apologize. thanks for any help!
guyincognito 01-27-2009, 11:23 PM hey people
the rangers game on the 9th- i have the best tix i ever had in my life. they are club seats- section 18. my question is this- what comes with these tix? i didn't get the v.i.p. parking, but do i eat for free? can i get hammered for free? if so, where do i go for these luxuries? if this has already been discussed, i apologize. thanks for any help!
you eat. liquor, you pay for, the same as everyone else (maybe more? I swear I've paid more for some stuff at the fire lounge than I do now at the restaurant)
NYRangers88 01-28-2009, 02:54 PM How would you recommend getting to the Prudential Center from Eastern Long Island. Is it better to take the train into Penn Station and then the Path? If yes, how long is the walk from the Path station. Or is it better to drive? If yes, then what's the best route and how is the parking situation in Newark? How is the parking fee?
cj225 01-28-2009, 02:59 PM How would you recommend getting to the Prudential Center from Eastern Long Island. Is it better to take the train into Penn Station and then the Path? If yes, how long is the walk from the Path station. Or is it better to drive? If yes, then what's the best route and how is the parking situation in Newark? How is the parking fee?
http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=15390760&postcount=1
There's a few recommendations in that post.
Your best bet is to take the LIRR to Penn Station, and then take NJ Transit from NY Penn to Newark Penn. There's a little walkway and it drops you 2 blocks from the arena.
Parking fees range from $8-$25 depending on how close you want to park.
DevsOwnYou 01-28-2009, 02:59 PM How would you recommend getting to the Prudential Center from Eastern Long Island. Is it better to take the train into Penn Station and then the Path? If yes, how long is the walk from the Path station. Or is it better to drive? If yes, then what's the best route and how is the parking situation in Newark? How is the parking fee?
The easiest is to take LIRR to New York Penn Station. Then a NJ Transit Train on the Northeast Corridor Line (NEC) to Newark Penn Station. The Rock is a 2 block walk from Newark Penn. Check www.njtransit.com for train schedules and costs.
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-28-2009, 03:00 PM How would you recommend getting to the Prudential Center from Eastern Long Island. Is it better to take the train into Penn Station and then the Path? If yes, how long is the walk from the Path station. Or is it better to drive? If yes, then what's the best route and how is the parking situation in Newark? How is the parking fee?
Take the train if you are close to the LIRR, simplest way to go.
The arena is two blocks from Newark Penn Station
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-28-2009, 03:02 PM He's having a very strong year this season.. Even as a bench player, he would be a great player to market to the city
Oh, BCB&G bartenders... :amazed: Straight out of a porno
Fixed.
pattyelias 01-28-2009, 05:25 PM How would you recommend getting to the Prudential Center from Eastern Long Island. Is it better to take the train into Penn Station and then the Path? If yes, how long is the walk from the Path station. Or is it better to drive? If yes, then what's the best route and how is the parking situation in Newark? How is the parking fee?
From eastern Long Island you take the LIRR out to Montauk and then you jump into the Atlantic. Hopefully, the current washes you up somewhere around Elizabeth and then you can just cab it. HTH.
J/K. Take CJ's advice.
King Isles 13 01-29-2009, 08:40 PM how much are jerseys at the rock??
Cowbell232 01-29-2009, 09:33 PM how much are jerseys at the rock??
Way more then online... I honestly don't know hard numbers though.
King Isles 13 01-29-2009, 09:38 PM Way more then online... I honestly don't know hard numbers though.
gotcha. thanks.
DevilBesideYou 02-14-2009, 10:10 AM Redevelopment Lagging Near Newark’s Arena (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/nyregion/new-jersey/15arenanj.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1)
THE glass entrance towers flanking the glossy Prudential Center downtown were bathed in light as members of the city’s business community streamed inside one morning last month, eager to tour the place and hear about developers’ efforts to transform the neighborhood.
“You can really feel the difference,” Barbara E. Kauffman, executive vice president of the Newark Regional Business Partnership, said in the hockey-themed arena’s Bud Light Goal Bar, a premium seating area. “Things are happening, and starting to pop.”
Yet the view from the Prudential Center’s glass towers did not suggest much action at all.
BenedictGomez 02-14-2009, 02:12 PM Interesting article. I thought the most enlightening bit was the following:
Newark did not begin assembling the land until after the arena opened, and finishing the job is a complicated process. The city has yet to acquire at least a dozen properties in the shadow of the arena, through negotiations or condemnation, and relocate tenants. It must also vacate a street before redevelopment can proceed.
Talk about financial amateur hour. That is absolutely shocking. :facepalm:
ILikeItVeryMuch 02-14-2009, 02:15 PM So which area in the US during this economic downturn has developed?
Uh Oh, the Rangers must be lower in the standings than the Devils again.
guyincognito 02-14-2009, 05:07 PM Tell me about it, why don't they go interview hobos by the MSG K-Mart.
pattyelias 02-15-2009, 12:31 PM Anyone ever take the PATH to the Rock from uptown (relatively speaking)? I'm thinking of taking it from 23rd street rather than walking to Penn. Do I switch at Journal Square or Hoboken?
Marv4Life 02-15-2009, 12:45 PM You switch at Journal Square.
One7nine 02-15-2009, 01:42 PM anyone know if Broad street is still blocked
DevsOwnYou 02-15-2009, 10:43 PM anyone know if Broad street is still blocked
I don't think it was today
BenedictGomez 02-15-2009, 11:24 PM Anyone ever take the PATH to the Rock from uptown (relatively speaking)? I'm thinking of taking it from 23rd street rather than walking to Penn. Do I switch at Journal Square or Hoboken?
Wish I'd seen this before now. Dont take the PATH to The Rock, go to NYPenn and take NJ Transit. Much simpler and quicker
pattyelias 02-15-2009, 11:32 PM Wish I'd seen this before now. Dont take the PATH to The Rock, go to NYPenn and take NJ Transit. Much simpler and quicker
I take the PATH to the Rock from lower Manhattan all the time, but that is a direct Newark train.
I ended up going from Penn today, even though I was right around the 23rd Street Path Station around 1:00. It just seemed like too much of a hassle via PATH rather than just walking the 8 blocks up to Penn.
DevFan-RU- 02-15-2009, 11:35 PM Question: After ACDC's Thunderstruck intro song... what Metallica song is played after? Is it Metallica?
pattyelias 02-16-2009, 12:01 AM One other little tidbit from today's game. I saw Neil Smith waiting for the train back to NY. His son was wearing the giveaway. Would that bother Ranger fans?
HellOnIce 02-16-2009, 12:42 AM Neil Smith's been to many many games at the Rock. I used to see him last year take the train home, probably 80% of the games last year.
peterrod16 02-16-2009, 09:20 AM Well my friend and i wanted to vist Brick City Bar & Grill yesterday.
We arrived at 1PM and the place was crowded.
My buddy said do you know another place.
So we made the three block walk to the Arena bar(i know some people dislike this place)
The service was great. Two burgers fries and two beers for $26.
The food came out in like 5 mins. Great atmosphere and it was funny when one sharks fan came into the bar i could hear boos from devils fans.
We were laughing at the rangers game on tv.
I will go back there again.
Reverend_Hellh0und 02-16-2009, 10:31 AM Well my friend and i wanted to vist Brick City Bar & Grill yesterday.
We arrived at 1PM and the place was crowded.
My buddy said do you know another place.
So we made the three block walk to the Arena bar(i know some people dislike this place)
The service was great. Two burgers fries and two beers for $26.
The food came out in like 5 mins. Great atmosphere and it was funny when one sharks fan came into the bar i could hear boos from devils fans.
We were laughing at the rangers game on tv.
I will go back there again.
Arena bar banned jerseys for a while, called themselves a lounge and shunned the fans that built the place.....
once they build that "sports bar" in the back, you will be shunned again.
I will NEVER set foot in that place again.
instead i will honk and flip em off whenever I pass by. :naughty:
9302njd 02-16-2009, 11:38 AM Question: After ACDC's Thunderstruck intro song... what Metallica song is played after? Is it Metallica?
I wasn't at the games for BOS/SJ, but if you are talking about the song they have been playing right before the first face-off, it is distinctly Lemmy's voice from Motorhead. I believe it t is called "The Game".
pattyelias 02-16-2009, 12:34 PM How many more games do you think the Devils can sellout for the rest of the regular season? I think 3; 3/1 against Philly, 3/28 against Carolina and 4/11 against Carolina. The Carolina games only because one is a Saturday night and the other is fan appreciation night.
The college nights will have good crowds and maybe the Friday night game against the Wild sellout since its family night and turn back the clock night. 2/28 against Florida should have a good crowd as well, but I have a hard time seeing people ponying up $95 for those lower corners.
DevsOwnYou 02-16-2009, 12:53 PM How many more games do you think the Devils can sellout for the rest of the regular season? I think 3; 3/1 against Philly, 3/28 against Carolina and 4/11 against Carolina. The Carolina games only because one is a Saturday night and the other is fan appreciation night.
The college nights will have good crowds and maybe the Friday night game against the Wild sellout since its family night and turn back the clock night. 2/28 against Florida should have a good crowd as well, but I have a hard time seeing people ponying up $95 for those lower corners.
3 home games in 4 days may prevent any sellouts from 2/26 through 3/1 as fans usually choose 1 or maybe 2 of the games but cannot afford all 3.
If the Devils announce Marty's first game back at least a week in advance it will either sellout or produce a 16,500+ crowd.
I could see lots of Philly fans finally coming to The Rock for the 3/1 1pm games since they are playing well.
NJDevs26 02-16-2009, 01:46 PM I don't think there's any way that March game against the Flyers doesn't sell out. It's a Sunday and there's no NFL excuse, shouldn't be a big weather excuse and both teams might be fighting for the division lead.
And I don't think there's any way the first Carolina weekend game does sell out, not with Fan Appreciation Night against the same team in two weeks. So I'd say two, maybe the Avs game comes close with College Night and the specter of Marty's return but three in four nights should hurt the weekday game under normal circumstances.
Clarkson Falls Down 02-16-2009, 01:49 PM Is there any chance that the St. Pats game against Chicago sells out? I know that they have the promotion for that day.
DevsOwnYou 02-16-2009, 03:35 PM Is there any chance that the St. Pats game against Chicago sells out? I know that they have the promotion for that day.
Probably not, but sellouts are not of upmost importance. The team playing well and getting a vibrant crowd of 15-16k is fine on most nights.
Sarge18 02-16-2009, 03:50 PM The Minnesota game is a turn back the clock night?
DevsOwnYou 02-16-2009, 03:53 PM The Minnesota game is a turn back the clock night?
Not sure but it is a Family 4-pack night
http://devils.nhl.com/tickets/family4pack.htm
ILikeItVeryMuch 02-16-2009, 04:01 PM Is there any chance that the St. Pats game against Chicago sells out? I know that they have the promotion for that day.
Me and my friends are doing the pub crawl before the game that day, I dont know how I am going to survive.
DevFan-RU- 02-16-2009, 04:20 PM I wasn't at the games for BOS/SJ, but if you are talking about the song they have been playing right before the first face-off, it is distinctly Lemmy's voice from Motorhead. I believe it t is called "The Game".
I don't think that's it... Its the song that plays after ACDC Thunderstruck.... right before the opening face-off.
downtown56 02-16-2009, 05:19 PM Question: After ACDC's Thunderstruck intro song... what Metallica song is played after? Is it Metallica?
After AC/DC's "Hell's Bells" intro,they switch to "Devils" by the 69 eyes which was edited so we hear the chorus repeatedly
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DevFan-RU- 02-16-2009, 07:22 PM After AC/DC's "Hell's Bells" intro,they switch to "Devils" by the 69 eyes which was edited so we hear the chorus repeatedly
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That's it. Thanks!
DevsOwnYou 02-16-2009, 09:50 PM After AC/DC's "Hell's Bells" intro,they switch to "Devils" by the 69 eyes which was edited so we hear the chorus repeatedly
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I like the song
Clarkson Falls Down 02-16-2009, 10:07 PM Me and my friends are doing the pub crawl before the game that day, I dont know how I am going to survive.
That would've been a perfect game for me to go to - spring break, good opponent - but nothing beats getting blitzed on St. Patty's day.
DevsOwnYou 02-16-2009, 10:17 PM That would've been a perfect game for me to go to - spring break, good opponent - but nothing beats getting blitzed on St. Patty's day.
You still can and go to the game. There are about 5 bars within close walking distance to The Rock, hit them all then drink up good at the game, even post game at The Goal Bar or Brick City Bar & Grill.
BenedictGomez 02-17-2009, 01:58 AM Is there any chance that the St. Pats game against Chicago sells out? I know that they have the promotion for that day.
Not a chance. That's the night they're papering, so it shows the Devils are concerned with it. They're trying to prevent a Halloween 2007 situation IMO.
Reverend_Hellh0und 02-17-2009, 07:52 AM Not a chance. That's the night they're papering, so it shows the Devils are concerned with it. They're trying to prevent a Halloween 2007 situation IMO.
papering? 2007 halloween? i think i missed something
Harrison Ford 02-17-2009, 05:37 PM Not a chance. That's the night they're papering, so it shows the Devils are concerned with it. They're trying to prevent a Halloween 2007 situation IMO.
oooooh I remember that one. That didn't turn out so great.
BenedictGomez 02-17-2009, 06:12 PM papering? 2007 halloween? i think i missed something
They're giving away free tix to the St. Patty's day game if you buy 4 other games. Halloween 2007 there were about seventeen people at The Rock for Devils/Ning'.
pattyelias 02-17-2009, 06:53 PM They're giving away free tix to the St. Patty's day game if you buy 4 other games. Halloween 2007 there were about seventeen people at The Rock for Devils/Ning'.
I was one of those 17. It was pathetically empty. I actually remember I had a rare case on in Newark that afternoon and I finished court around 3:30 and just hung out and got tanked at Arena Bar, back when it was still fun.
fortheloveof666 02-17-2009, 07:48 PM They're giving away free tix to the St. Patty's day game if you buy 4 other games. Halloween 2007 there were about seventeen people at The Rock for Devils/Ning'.
17 1/2. My pregnant girlfriend was there with me. ;)
Jiri Bicek 02-17-2009, 08:00 PM 17 1/2. My pregnant girlfriend was there with me. ;)
That's a keeper :nod:
ILikeItVeryMuch 02-17-2009, 11:48 PM Me and my now ex were one of the proud that night.
Ugh everything comes back to that.
:(
Whooooree!
:shakehead
ILikeItVeryMuch 02-18-2009, 12:23 AM http://www.facebook.com/editevent.php?success=1&picture=&eid=43772254245#/event.php?eid=43772254245
Anyone up for the Pub Crawl on St Pats?
Clarkson Falls Down 02-18-2009, 12:28 AM http://www.facebook.com/editevent.php?success=1&picture=&eid=43772254245#/event.php?eid=43772254245
Anyone up for the Pub Crawl on St Pats?
I wish. :(
ILikeItVeryMuch 02-18-2009, 12:36 AM I already gave my professors air tight excuses why I wont be in class on St. Pats, even making up tests if there are any that day. and none of them are the wiser.
Cant wait for St. Pats, hoooray for unemployment.
JerryG 02-18-2009, 11:39 AM I already gave my professors air tight excuses why I wont be in class on St. Pats, even making up tests if there are any that day. and none of them are the wiser.
Hate to burst your bubble, but I am sure your professors all know it's St. Patrick's day...odds are you'll run into at least one of them in some bar. Be sure to buy them a drink.
Das Uber 02-18-2009, 12:15 PM Hate to burst your bubble, but I am sure your professors all know it's St. Patrick's day...odds are you'll run into at least one of them in some bar. Be sure to buy them a drink.
Do they?
Devils9789 02-18-2009, 12:37 PM Me and my now ex were one of the proud that night.
Ugh everything comes back to that.
:(
Whooooree!
:shakehead
Gj8fETOnVco
Jiri Bicek 02-18-2009, 01:24 PM http://www.facebook.com/editevent.php?success=1&picture=&eid=43772254245#/event.php?eid=43772254245
Anyone up for the Pub Crawl on St Pats?
Sounds good to me :nod:
ILikeItVeryMuch 02-18-2009, 03:13 PM Hate to burst your bubble, but I am sure your professors all know it's St. Patrick's day...odds are you'll run into at least one of them in some bar. Be sure to buy them a drink.
In Newark?
ILikeItVeryMuch 02-18-2009, 03:27 PM Sounds good to me :nod:
Nice its probably going to be like 15 people total now, a total complete mess.
Lou's Koolaid 02-19-2009, 03:01 PM Not a chance. That's the night they're papering, so it shows the Devils are concerned with it. They're trying to prevent a Halloween 2007 situation IMO.I'd think the Hawks would be a good draw. They get a lot of press for a NHL team and haven't been in Jersey in a few years.
njdevsfn95 02-19-2009, 10:41 PM I'd think the Hawks would be a good draw. They get a lot of press for a NHL team and haven't been in Jersey in a few years.
the last time they were in Jersey, Rutgers was busy upsetting Louisville.
so that was November 06 if i remember correctly.
DevilBesideYou 02-24-2009, 09:17 PM Not quite about the Rock, but something good for Newark:
Newark signs development deal with Shaquille O'Neal's partners (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/02/newark_theater_and_cityowned_l.html)
BenedictGomez 02-24-2009, 10:36 PM Not quite about the Rock, but something good for Newark:
If it was "something good" about The Rock, the article wouldnt appear in The Star-Ledger. That rag is part of the New Jersey Dirty Political Machine, and it's obvious that Izod is the player they support.
Sarge18 02-27-2009, 06:19 AM New article about the giant sculpture going outside the arena:
http://www.recordernewspapers.com/articles/2009/02/27/the_citizen/news/doc49a67c52e9cb7078474517.txt
ILikeItVeryMuch 02-27-2009, 11:11 AM Supposedly a deal was finalized to build a skyscraper that would be the biggest building in Newark, around the PAC area.
With the rising rent in Manhattan you will see alot of businesses start to move into Newark and Jersey City.
The Chase building in downtown Jersey City is obnoxiously huge.
BenedictGomez 02-27-2009, 01:48 PM Supposedly a deal was finalized to build a skyscraper that would be the biggest building in Newark, around the PAC area.
With the rising rent in Manhattan you will see alot of businesses start to move into Newark and Jersey City.
The Chase building in downtown Jersey City is obnoxiously huge.
Rents should be going down actually. So many big businesses have gone out of business there are lots more vacant square footage which should put a strain on rent (theoretically anyway). I'm surprised a major construction deal was signed in this economic climate, especially in Newark, that sure would be a big positive as you said. Hopefully they can put in a hotel or 2 afterwards so we can get the ASG by 2016 or so
Jonathan. 03-03-2009, 12:13 PM Hey, guys. I'm going to the Calgary game in a few days and, like always, I bought club seats for it. I think I might actually drive to the game this time and am a bit confused. Where is the place that you use the VIP parking pass? Is it the parking lot attached to the arena?
If someone could help out with that (and possibly directions or something), I'd be grateful.
Thanks a lot.
hockey86 03-03-2009, 12:18 PM Its the parking garage that is attached to the arena, lot 10. Use the directions here: http://devils.nhl.com/pruparking.htm . Follow the ones under "yellow 10" and it should take ya right there! Also park on level 4 I think as that is where the walkway is into the arena
Jonathan. 03-03-2009, 12:21 PM Its the parking garage that is attached to the arena, lot 10. Use the directions here: http://devils.nhl.com/pruparking.htm . Follow the ones under "yellow 10" and it should take ya right there! Also park on level 4 I think as that is where the walkway is into the arena
Thanks a lot. Saves me a lot of hassle because I really couldn't figure it out!
I'm trying the Ice Bar this time. Sat in the Fire Bar area the last few times, which was cool. But I always here good **** about the Ice Bar side.
hockey86 03-03-2009, 12:26 PM the ice bar is where its at! (thats because its where I sit!). Make sure to get there early if you want to actually sit down and eat at a table, it usually fills up fast!
9302njd 03-03-2009, 12:28 PM Hey, guys. I'm going to the Calgary game in a few days and, like always, I bought club seats for it. I think I might actually drive to the game this time and am a bit confused. Where is the place that you use the VIP parking pass? Is it the parking lot attached to the arena?
If someone could help out with that (and possibly directions or something), I'd be grateful.
Thanks a lot.
The VIP lot is lot 10 and is attached to the Arena. It is on Lafayette Street, between Broad & Mulberry. I usually drive down Broad Street as it tends to be quicker, but the other option is driving on Rt 21 and turning onto Lafayette. The only thing to remember is that Mulberry Street by the Rock closes to traffic early.
On level 4 of the lot is a bridgeway to an entrance, so park as close to that as possible.I assume you know this, but in case you don't, you have to purchase parking for that lot in advance as they do no game-day sales.
Jonathan. 03-03-2009, 12:37 PM the ice bar is where its at! (thats because its where I sit!). Make sure to get there early if you want to actually sit down and eat at a table, it usually fills up fast!
Yeah, we normally do. I like getting there right as the doors open.
Do you get to go in earlier if you go in through the VIP parking garage? Just curious.
Jonathan. 03-03-2009, 12:38 PM The VIP lot is lot 10 and is attached to the Arena. It is on Lafayette Street, between Broad & Mulberry. I usually drive down Broad Street as it tends to be quicker, but the other option is driving on Rt 21 and turning onto Lafayette. The only thing to remember is that Mulberry Street by the Rock closes to traffic early.
On level 4 of the lot is a bridgeway to an entrance, so park as close to that as possible.I assume you know this, but in case you don't, you have to purchase parking for that lot in advance as they do no game-day sales.
I have the VIP pass that came with the tickets for levels 3 and 4 of the lot. I'd assume that covers it, correct?
Reverend_Hellh0und 03-03-2009, 02:08 PM Hey, guys. I'm going to the Calgary game in a few days and, like always, I bought club seats for it. I think I might actually drive to the game this time and am a bit confused. Where is the place that you use the VIP parking pass? Is it the parking lot attached to the arena?
If someone could help out with that (and possibly directions or something), I'd be grateful.
Thanks a lot.
Did you buy the VIP parking pass?
Turn it over, see where it's circled. In police work, they call that a "clue" :sarcasm:
but yeah, if you come down 21 turn up to broad st and make a left onto broad and a left onto layfayette.
ILikeItVeryMuch 03-03-2009, 02:15 PM Hey, guys. I'm going to the Calgary game in a few days and, like always, I bought club seats for it. I think I might actually drive to the game this time and am a bit confused. Where is the place that you use the VIP parking pass? Is it the parking lot attached to the arena?
If someone could help out with that (and possibly directions or something), I'd be grateful.
Thanks a lot.
7 blocks past Broad Street. Ask for Martinez. :)
Jonathan. 03-03-2009, 03:39 PM Did you buy the VIP parking pass?
Turn it over, see where it's circled. In police work, they call that a "clue" :sarcasm:
but yeah, if you come down 21 turn up to broad st and make a left onto broad and a left onto layfayette.
Came with the club seats for free. I take it the guy bought the parking along with the season tickets to the club seats. I would guess, anyway.
I've gotten the parking pass every time I've bought club seat tickets, just never used them before. Always took the train, but I don't feel like shelling out $60 for train tickets for myself and two others this time.
DevilBesideYou 03-04-2009, 12:40 AM Opinion piece by Vanderbeek (http://www.njbiz.com/weekly_article.asp?aID=31478336.5420761.1006863.10 95318.3441153.267&aID2=77442):
Simply put, funding infrastructure projects will help to stimulate the economy, but only if the work makes sense and begins quickly. As an example, look at the Prudential Center in Newark. This was a major capital project that cost a little more than $400 million using both private and public funds. More than 2,600 construction workers built The Rock, and more than 1,200 new jobs were created at the arena, with about 60 percent of the new employees living in Newark. Just as important, tax revenue from salaries, ticket sales, food, gifts, parking and property assessment already has totaled more than $11 million since the arena opened in late 2007. Finally, more than 2.5 million patrons have attended more than 275 events at the Prudential Center, bringing a vitality to Newark where little existed before. What’s more, more than half of those patrons have come through Penn Station as NJ Transit riders.
That's what infrastructure investment should do, and the criteria to judge a good project from a wasteful one is relatively simple to assess: does the project (1) create jobs, (2) generate tax revenue and (3) provide a long-term benefit?
Interesting stuff, and the writing isn't half bad.
Cry_Wolf 03-04-2009, 01:19 AM How does one get into the fire and ice lounges? Does it come with the price of a ticket in the lower bowl?
9302njd 03-04-2009, 11:03 AM How does one get into the fire and ice lounges? Does it come with the price of a ticket in the lower bowl?
Not all lower bowl seats have access. Entrance to the lounges is limited to those with club tickets. You will know if you have one, the tix are silver and say "club" on them (sec 7-9 & sec 18-20). I have also heard that there are also soime holdover Gold Circle members from CAA who get access, but I don't know how that works.
BenedictGomez 03-04-2009, 12:05 PM That was a good read. I was surprised at this bit:
more than half of those patrons have come through Penn Station as NJ Transit riders.
Over 50% utilizing the train if true.
DevsOwnYou 03-04-2009, 12:28 PM That was a good read. I was surprised at this bit:
Over 50% utilizing the train if true.
Thanks for the quick math lesson,;)
I would say about 50% based on fans I see coming from Newark Penn and the Broad St station compared to cars parked in the lots. It's real easy either way for me, some nights I drive some I take NJ Transit.
njdevsfn95 03-04-2009, 11:13 PM Um, the Nets are playing 2 preseason games at the Rock.
Link (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/03/nets_to_open_preseason_in_newa.html)
NJDevs26 03-04-2009, 11:34 PM And so it begins...
DevilBesideYou 03-04-2009, 11:40 PM Um, the Nets are playing 2 preseason games at the Rock.
Link (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/03/nets_to_open_preseason_in_newa.html)
For real this time?
BenedictGomez 03-04-2009, 11:43 PM Um, the Nets are playing 2 preseason games at the Rock.
"We are looking forward to playing two games against two of our biggest rivals, the Celtics and the Knicks, at the Prudential Center. We are also excited to be playing a game at St. John's in Queens, a borough where we expect great support for the Nets when we move to the Barclays Center in Brooklyn in 2011."
http://myblahg.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/absolut.jpg
guyincognito 03-04-2009, 11:50 PM I wonder if they're trying to get the dump to break their lease
ILikeItVeryMuch 03-05-2009, 12:11 AM It kind of makes me happy that either way the NJSEA is **** out of luck and will have nothing.
They would be lucky to build a bar in Brooklyn right now, its not going to happen.
I am sure the already alienated Nets fanbase is going to want to drive into Brooklyn when they dont even want to drive to an arena in their own state.
Thank god I love hockey and have no interest in basketball, I would be pretty upset if my New Jersey team was treated like this.
DevsOwnYou 03-06-2009, 11:11 AM It kind of makes me happy that either way the NJSEA is **** out of luck and will have nothing.
They would be lucky to build a bar in Brooklyn right now, its not going to happen.
I am sure the already alienated Nets fanbase is going to want to drive into Brooklyn when they dont even want to drive to an arena in their own state.
Thank god I love hockey and have no interest in basketball, I would be pretty upset if my New Jersey team was treated like this.
If the Nets don't make the playoffs it would be another nail in the coffin for Ratner and the NJSEA. I'm rooting for an empty CAA this spring with no playoff basketball there.
BenedictGomez 03-08-2009, 05:29 PM Izod Center now operates in the black, according to Robinson. It generated $1 million in revenues after expenses this past year, he said. However, the authority does not allocate its general and administrative expenses to any of its facilities, including the arena. Also, the state currently props up the authority by covering the costs of $691 million in assumed debt, Treasury Department officials said.
TRANSLATION: The Izod Center loses money, but because of crooked New Jersey politicians and people on the take, it remains open, paid for by New Jersey taxpayers.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/03/izod_center_and_prudential_cen.html
guyincognito 03-08-2009, 05:46 PM TRANSLATION: The Izod Center loses money, but because of crooked New Jersey politicians and people on the take, it remains open, paid for by New Jersey taxpayers.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/03/izod_center_and_prudential_cen.html
So, it really loses $690M.
EDIT: and I love the comments, as usual. I can't wait until Xanadu opens (if it ever does). Those people can't stand Newark, but Xanadu will bring Newark to them. Newark is already in their precious burbs too. I'll laugh my ass off when they start getting mugged in the parking lot because of certain elements that plague jersey malls.
Clarkson Falls Down 03-08-2009, 05:52 PM Come on Sarlo, you're better than that.
And can they get rid of that comment section? I know it's "freedom of speech" and all, but that stuff just makes us look even more stupid. :dunce:
guyincognito 03-08-2009, 05:58 PM Come on Sarlo, you're better than that.
No, he's not, the people that run Bergen (regardless of party) are a bunch of corrupt provincial jackasses.
It's amazing they would bilk the taxpayers for that much money for whatever assumed gain the area gets out of the arena (but how they can get paid out on a building that is $690M in the red... hmm, maybe that's how it's $690M in the red, even the Devils debt value, counting the Rock is in the $200M's), and then call out someone else for doing the same.
Newark isn't the thing that should be burnt down and started over, Bergen should be.
No one in Bergen relates to Jersey, so just hand it over to NY. And this comes from someone from Bergen. The county is a joke.
And no one has explained how the mall and the arena are going to operate at the same time, especially in the holiday season, and especially until Giants Stadium goes down (at very minimal parking gain.)
Clarkson Falls Down 03-08-2009, 06:00 PM No, he's not, the people that run Bergen (regardless of party) are a bunch of corrupt provincial jackasses.
Oh, I was just being facetious.
guyincognito 03-08-2009, 06:02 PM Come on Sarlo, you're better than that.
And can they get rid of that comment section? I know it's "freedom of speech" and all, but that stuff just makes us look even more stupid. :dunce:
they would get rid of the comment section if it didn't fit their agenda
guyincognito 03-08-2009, 06:12 PM and to end this rant, my favorite part of the article is how they point out the Rock hasn't had a Live Nation act yet.
well... DUH. Great writing. Just ignore that both arenas have contracts with different entertainment agencies, so there isn't going to be much, if any, cross-promotion unless dates wanted are already booked.
If the Rock was live nation and the dump was AEG, the dump would be out of business, Live Nation is the only thing that allows them the pretense of being in business.
BenedictGomez 03-08-2009, 09:37 PM So, it really loses $690M.
EDIT: and I love the comments, as usual. I can't wait until Xanadu opens (if it ever does). Those people can't stand Newark, but Xanadu will bring Newark to them. Newark is already in their precious burbs too. I'll laugh my ass off when they start getting mugged in the parking lot because of certain elements that plague jersey malls.
I dont understand how a building that has been open for THIRTY YEARS can have debt of $690 Million dollars. Other than the fact that this is New Jersey, so anything with political corruption is possible*
*You should read the book The Soprano State (I'm 5 chapters in so far and it's fantastic). It will raise your bloodpressure to near heart attack levels when you learn of the political corruption and theft that goes on it this state behind the scenes without fear of punishment.
The Korean* 03-10-2009, 06:30 PM Only thing IZod has over the Rock at this point is WWE right now. Yes, WWE is THAT popular, and is a major source of cash for many arenas.
If WWE starts doing shows at The Rock, IZod is finished, if nets are gone.
Jiri Bicek 03-10-2009, 06:35 PM Only thing IZod has over the Rock at this point is WWE right now. Yes, WWE is THAT popular, and is a major source of cash for many arenas.
If WWE starts doing shows at The Rock, IZod is finished, if nets are gone.
I don't think many will lose sleep over the WWE not being at The Rock (waiting for the Rock @ The Rock comment) It's no where near as popular as it once was
The Korean* 03-10-2009, 06:38 PM ^Its still one of major draws for many venues. The Rock can succeed without WWE, but IZod cannot.
Jiri Bicek 03-10-2009, 06:50 PM ^Its still one of major draws for many venues. The Rock can succeed without WWE, but IZod cannot.
How many do they book a year... 1 or 2 max?
I don't think IZOD lives and dies with the WWE.. IZOD is terrible no matter what they book there
That whole area is a disaster
The Korean* 03-10-2009, 07:13 PM No, they book at least 10-15. Same goes for NVMC.
Remember, not every WWE shows are televised.
And MSG is too expensive to use often. They usually save it for PPV/TV shows and occasional house shows.
Jiri Bicek 03-10-2009, 07:27 PM No, they book at least 10-15. Same goes for NVMC.
Remember, not every WWE shows are televised.
And MSG is too expensive to use often. They usually save it for PPV/TV shows and occasional house shows.
10-15 a year?
I heavily doubt that.. They prob don't have 10-15 live shows a year in all of NJ
You know more about the WWE than I do, but I receive maybe 1 or 2 notifications at most about WWE events @ IZOD through ticketmaster email.. The only reason I even remember this is because I let my friends little brother know since he loves wrestling
The Korean* 03-10-2009, 10:41 PM They tend to focus a lot on NYC metro area because its obviously an easy sell around here. And IZod is the cheapest out of 3 (now 4 with The Rock). So they do around 10 to 15 shows there. Sometimes less. At least, thats what I remember. I could be wrong. But they do a lot of shows around NYC.
If The Rock can get hold of WWE, they can probably make a lot more money then they do now. I think most venues charge more if the show uses pyrotechnic and have a huge stage.
They run approximately 320-330 shows a year. And a lot of times they run more then one shows a day so the number should be much higher then what my estimations are.
ILikeItVeryMuch 03-10-2009, 10:44 PM I hope they would shoot the Izod to the moon with all the awful wrestling fans inside it.
Honestly, Pro Wrestling loses its appeal when you reach age 10.
The Korean* 03-10-2009, 10:51 PM ^Stop hating. Its a soap opera for man.
And it fills up venue dates.
BenedictGomez 03-10-2009, 10:52 PM ^Stop hating. Its a soap opera for man.
And here I always assumed it was soap opera for white trash. I stand corrected. :teach2:
ILikeItVeryMuch 03-10-2009, 10:52 PM I would rather watch Mark Messier figure skate with the Stanley Cup to the sound of the Rangers goal song than attend or watch a wrestling show.
Wait...that is a tough one.
devilzrule27 03-10-2009, 10:55 PM I would rather watch Mark Messier figure skate with the Stanley Cup to the sound of the Rangers goal song than attend or watch a wrestling show.
Wait...that is a tough one.
now now don't say thing you don't mean. i would stomach sitting through a few hours of crappy wrestling over watching the Rangers anything.
The Korean* 03-10-2009, 10:55 PM ^Well...don't watch?
At least don't complain when others do. Its like me ripping on you for listening to certain artist or liking certain TV show.
Again, WWE is gold mine for many venues.
ILikeItVeryMuch 03-10-2009, 10:58 PM Ugh, Pro Wrestling invokes memories of early 90s haircuts, fat people wearing black shirts with awful wrestling quotes, and horrible smells.
devilzrule27 03-10-2009, 11:04 PM Ugh, Pro Wrestling invokes memories of early 90s haircuts, fat people wearing black shirts with awful wrestling quotes, and horrible smells.
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OMG. This would be my favorite wrestler ever. If he was wearing a lobster bib.
It's no better or worse than most of the trash you watch on TV. The main question I have is... why do fat wrestlers wear women's bathing suits?
ILikeItVeryMuch 03-12-2009, 05:47 PM I did a dry run of the pub crawl I plan on doing on St. Pats before the game.
Some pictures from my cammmmmera.
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2017541&id=1442531721&saved#/album.php?aid=2017541&id=1442531721
DevsOwnYou 03-14-2009, 12:44 AM I did a dry run of the pub crawl I plan on doing on St. Pats before the game.
Some pictures from my cammmmmera.
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2017541&id=1442531721&saved#/album.php?aid=2017541&id=1442531721
Nice work man. Was it a total dry run or were a few pops had over at Killkenny Ale House?
Das Uber 03-14-2009, 02:15 AM Ok guys, I can leave work at 4 on Tuesdee. Normally it takes me 2 hours to get up to North Jersey, but I'm sure I'll get rush hour traffic. I'm coming up from the Philly area so what would be the most ideal place off Turnpike where I can park and then take a train up to Newark Penn?
One7nine 03-14-2009, 02:39 AM Ok guys, I can leave work at 4 on Tuesdee. Normally it takes me 2 hours to get up to North Jersey, but I'm sure I'll get rush hour traffic. I'm coming up from the Philly area so what would be the most ideal place off Turnpike where I can park and then take a train up to Newark Penn?
I would get over to the parkway and jump on at metro park
BenedictGomez 03-14-2009, 02:55 AM Ok guys, I can leave work at 4 on Tuesdee. Normally it takes me 2 hours to get up to North Jersey, but I'm sure I'll get rush hour traffic. I'm coming up from the Philly area so what would be the most ideal place off Turnpike where I can park and then take a train up to Newark Penn?
If you're down in the Philly area, why not just jump on the train in Trenton or Hamilton and be done with it? It's only like a 1 hour train ride from there and even less if you can hit an Express.
Das Uber 03-14-2009, 03:24 AM If you're down in the Philly area, why not just jump on the train in Trenton or Hamilton and be done with it? It's only like a 1 hour train ride from there and even less if you can hit an Express.
Well I have to be able to get back that night too. I don't want to get stranded in Newark or show up in Trenton at like midnight.
Marv4Life 03-14-2009, 10:23 AM Well I have to be able to get back that night too. I don't want to get stranded in Newark or show up in Trenton at like midnight.
If you know how to read a train schedule you wouldn't get "stranded" and unless something insane happens with Amtrak, trains don't run every 3 hours after the game. And no I'm not being a dick just being honest.
To answer your question, take Rt 1 into West Windsor and park at Princeton Junction or park at Hamilton station.
http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/rail/r0070.pdf
http://www.njtransit.com/rg/rg_servlet.srv?hdnPageAction=TrainStationLookupTo
DevsOwnYou 03-14-2009, 12:03 PM I wonder how ticket sales are going for Tuesday's game right now.
I want to see a packed house and not a Dolan sellout on Tuesday night.
No excuses for Devils fans for this game not to be 17,625 with people trying to get in getting turned down at the box office.
njdevsfn95 03-14-2009, 12:07 PM I wonder how ticket sales are going for Tuesday's game right now.
I want to see a packed house and not a Dolan sellout on Tuesday night.
No excuses for Devils fans for this game not to be 17,625 with people trying to get in getting turned down at the box office.
i think it all depends on the outcome of tonights game.
there are probably a lot of people on the fence thinking "i only want to spend the money if theres a chance to see history"
with this economy, i dont blame em. i would guess they would save their money for Friday vs the Wild, tho.
ILikeItVeryMuch 03-14-2009, 12:14 PM Nice work man. Was it a total dry run or were a few pops had over at Killkenny Ale House?
Dry run in spirit, me and my friend got hammered, especially at the Spot since the owner loves us and gives us free shots.
Marv4Life 03-14-2009, 01:44 PM If they win tonight, Tuesday could be a sellout, Dolaned/AEGed or not.
BenedictGomez 03-14-2009, 02:11 PM If they win tonight, Tuesday could be a sellout, Dolaned/AEGed or not.
i think it all depends on the outcome of tonights game.
there are probably a lot of people on the fence thinking "i only want to spend the money if theres a chance to see history"
with this economy, i dont blame em. i would guess they would save their money for Friday vs the Wild, tho.
It would have to sellout really quickly. You can get 12 or 13 seats in a row in the sections-that-need-not-be-mentioned-because-certain-people-get-pissed.
Marv4Life 03-14-2009, 02:23 PM It would have to sellout really quickly. You can get 12 or 13 seats in a row in the sections-that-need-not-be-mentioned-because-certain-people-get-pissed.
Wonder where the seats are...:sarcasm:
They never learn, don't they?
pattyelias 03-14-2009, 02:45 PM It would have to sellout really quickly. You can get 12 or 13 seats in a row in the sections-that-need-not-be-mentioned-because-certain-people-get-pissed.
I'm assuming you're talking about the $95 seats and the $100 seats. I just tried to get a pair of seats downstairs through Guys Night Out and the only thing it was offering me were up in 130. They will have a very good crowd on Tuesday one way or another. If Marty is going for the record I think they'll have a papered sellout.
Muttley 03-17-2009, 07:16 PM Two gay men attending Britney Spear's concert Saturday night at the Prudential Center were attacked and beaten.
This story was the lead-in for NewsChannel 4 and their 5:00 PM broadcast. You know they were just salivating to broadcast this:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/03/gay_couple_claim_that_brtiney.html
DevilBesideYou 03-18-2009, 12:57 AM Two gay men attending Britney Spear's concert Saturday night at the Prudential Center were attacked and beaten.
This story was the lead-in for NewsChannel 4 and their 5:00 PM broadcast. You know they were just salivating to broadcast this:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/03/gay_couple_claim_that_brtiney.html
Meh. Sounds fishy.
guyincognito 03-18-2009, 01:05 AM Meh. Sounds fishy.
There's alot of weirdness to the story, but I think the bottom line is that they have to look into why this guy was able to run another event after the debacle the last one turned out to be.
I'm not going to take that as the 100% gods honest truth, but it's very likely that *something* happened. And after the shooting in the hotel parking lot, how they could allow the guy basically to replicate the problem is beyond me.
DevilBesideYou 03-18-2009, 01:11 AM There's alot of weirdness to the story, but I think the bottom line is that they have to look into why this guy was able to run another event after the debacle the last one turned out to be.
I'm not going to take that as the 100% gods honest truth, but it's very likely that *something* happened. And after the shooting in the hotel parking lot, how they could allow the guy basically to replicate the problem is beyond me.
Oh, I agree that something has to be done, especially with the negative publicity this is going to bring, but the story itself just has so many things that don't add up.
Sarge18 03-18-2009, 01:24 AM Waaaaay more cops out there tonight, especially the perimeter streets. On one hand, I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that happen. I take some of the back streets home after games and there are no cops to be seen and it is very shady to say the least.
On the other hand, I wouldn't doubt for one second if this is complete BS, but you know if it's proven to be false, the media won't give that a second of attention and the damage has been done already.
DevsOwnYou 03-26-2009, 09:35 PM Verus is showing boxing from The Rock tonight from 8-10pm.
Vanderbeek is sitting in the front row a few seats away from Don King.
I believe this was filmed months ago though.
cj225 03-27-2009, 05:52 PM http://glocallynewark.com/wordpress/?p=1212
Mike’s Coffee Shop and Pizzeria | 873 Broad Street | (973) 624-0933
Restaurant: Considering this place just opened, it had better be clean. Thankfully, it was, making it a far cry from the dingy Bill’s Coffee Shop that occupied the same space nearly two years ago.
Service: My order and cash were taken quickly and orderly, doubly impressive with the deluge of customers milling about like they were at the 2009 Walk Around Aimlessly rally.
Pizza: It was good. Not as good as the flavorful Queen slice, but still solid.
Price: $1.75
I may be a freak for measuring pizza, but the radioactive oven producing these mammoth slices is just as much to blame.
I may be a freak for measuring pizza, but the radioactive oven producing these mammoth slices is just as much to blame.
Final verdict: My NEW Newark pizza choice. It matches or exceeds all the Halsey pizza parlors in every category, and at $1.75, you can’t go wrong with a foot long slice. Look at that freak of nature!
To all the Devils fans headed out to the Carolina game tomorrow, if you don’t stuff your face with the $1 hot dogs at the arena, check this place out and leave your thoughts here. Mike’s is open til 12:30 am every day.
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JRZ DVLS 03-27-2009, 06:01 PM http://glocallynewark.com/wordpress/?p=1212
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I miss Jersey Pizza, thanks for rubbing it in......I am stuck eating spaghetti sauce and mozzerella on matzo.....
And people actually think its good.......Its worse than Papa Johns
FLEX225 03-27-2009, 06:38 PM Mine's bigger....
Pizza slice I mean
snyddogg430 03-29-2009, 09:39 PM I'm going to next Tuesday's game vs. the Leafs. I've been to the Rock three times before, and always parked in Yellow Lot 10, prepaid for like $30. Should I do that again or where is there a more affordable lot, and are they readily available? Thanks.
DevsOwnYou 03-30-2009, 01:46 AM I'm going to next Tuesday's game vs. the Leafs. I've been to the Rock three times before, and always parked in Yellow Lot 10, prepaid for like $30. Should I do that again or where is there a more affordable lot, and are they readily available? Thanks.
A few lots on Mulberry Street south of The Rock go for $20 or $15, no reason ever to pay $30.
jkrdevil 03-30-2009, 12:18 PM Saturday I parked at the Gateway for $20 dollars. The other lots around were $25. there is no reason to pay $30.
Cowbell232 03-30-2009, 12:26 PM If you go down Lafayette and walk up 2-4 blocks, street parking is free...
snyddogg430 04-07-2009, 09:11 AM A few lots on Mulberry Street south of The Rock go for $20 or $15, no reason ever to pay $30.
Saturday I parked at the Gateway for $20 dollars. The other lots around were $25. there is no reason to pay $30.
If you go down Lafayette and walk up 2-4 blocks, street parking is free...
Thanks for the advice guys.
Drewr15 04-07-2009, 06:22 PM We are bringing my 4 year old nephew for the game on saturday and my sister wants some place he can sit down and eat before the game. Any suggestions?
Jiri Bicek 04-07-2009, 06:26 PM We are bringing my 4 year old nephew for the game on saturday and my sister wants some place he can sit down and eat before the game. Any suggestions?
McDonalds ;)
Really, I'm sure if you get to Newark early enough you can pick up a table at BCBG.. Service is shoddy, but I liked the food
There's also that pizza place that CJ mentioned.. With the big slices for cheap
Harrison Ford 04-07-2009, 06:28 PM McDonalds ;)
Really, I'm sure if you get to Newark early enough you can pick up a table at BCBG.. Service is shoddy, but I liked the food
There's also that pizza place that CJ mentioned.. With the big slices for cheap
What pizza place is this?
DevsOwnYou 04-07-2009, 10:56 PM What pizza place is this?
Mike's Pizza and Coffee shop, right across Broad Street at the corner of Layfeyette.
It just opened a little over a week ago.
Drewr15 04-08-2009, 11:05 AM McDonalds ;)
Really, I'm sure if you get to Newark early enough you can pick up a table at BCBG.. Service is shoddy, but I liked the food
There's also that pizza place that CJ mentioned.. With the big slices for cheap
yeah I though of Brick City but I figured it would be mobbed that day. Will keep it in mind.
Drewr15 04-08-2009, 11:06 AM Mike's Pizza and Coffee shop, right across Broad Street at the corner of Layfeyette.
It just opened a little over a week ago.
yes finally a pizza place near the arena!
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2009, 11:13 AM yes finally a pizza place near the arena!
I plan to check it out this Saturday post game.
If the slices are that big and $1.75, compared to a average sized slice at The Rock for $5.
There is a pizza joint on Commerce St that I have hit before a few games, but they close at 6pm. The owner said he stayed open for the first month of last season and got very few fans coming in so he now closes at 6pm.
Marv4Life 04-08-2009, 11:48 AM There is a pizza place in the Gateway you know. Metro Cafe located between the Hilton and the entrance to Penn station. Open on Saturdays. If you are a typical white suburbanite with kids you should AVOID walking on Broad St. on a Saturday. My advice. Unless you're used to walking around the South Bronx before Yankee games.
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2009, 11:52 AM There is a pizza place in the Gateway you know. Metro Cafe located between the Hilton and the entrance to Penn station. Open on Saturdays. If you are a typical white suburbanite with kids you should AVOID walking on Broad St. on a Saturday. My advice. Unless you're used to walking around the South Bronx before Yankee games.
Marv,
I do sense your sarcasm though but I saw a bunch of "suburbanite" teenagers walk right into Mike's after the game last Friday night, and this was at about 10pm.
It is right across the street from The Rock.
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-08-2009, 11:55 AM There is a pizza place in the Gateway you know. Metro Cafe located between the Hilton and the entrance to Penn station. Open on Saturdays. If you are a typical white suburbanite with kids you should AVOID walking on Broad St. on a Saturday. My advice. Unless you're used to walking around the South Bronx before Yankee games.
Oh no..are there b..b.b...b..bb....lack people!?
I never had a problem walking on Broad Street near the Pru building.
Marv4Life 04-08-2009, 12:00 PM Marv,
I do sense your sarcasm though but I saw a bunch of "suburbanite" teenagers walk right into Mike's after the game last Friday night, and this was at about 10pm.
It is right across the street from The Rock.
I know the location and the area. And while I'm being half sarcastic, I don't wanna hear any complaints when folks walk across Broad St and say "Oh, this area is unnerving, too many certain people roaming about, ghetto retail, etc." You choose to walk there.
Excuse my mood. Still kinda sick this week. And it isn't because of the Devils.
Das Uber 04-08-2009, 12:04 PM There is a pizza place in the Gateway you know. Metro Cafe located between the Hilton and the entrance to Penn station. Open on Saturdays. If you are a typical white suburbanite with kids you should AVOID walking on Broad St. on a Saturday. My advice. Unless you're used to walking around the South Bronx before Yankee games.
Racist.
Marv4Life 04-08-2009, 12:22 PM Racist.
Unless that was sarcasm, think before you type and read my last post.
And I'm black, BTW.
fortheloveof666 04-08-2009, 12:27 PM Unless that was sarcasm, think before you type and read my last post.
And I'm black, BTW.
I'm white and hate white people, I think that still makes me a racist. ;)
ILikeItVeryMuch 04-08-2009, 01:24 PM To be fair the sarcasm wasn't clear. But I have yet to have a problem, and I have done a bar crawl in the city of all things. And to the previous poster the best places to sit down for a meal is Brick City or Scullys.
Marv4Life 04-08-2009, 01:35 PM Another "pub" coming soon? Read that there was a sign at the Commerce Food Market(basically across from The Spot) that said "Coming soon Port City Brewhouse". Probably won't be ready until next season like BCB&G was.
DevilsFan38 04-08-2009, 01:52 PM To be fair the sarcasm wasn't clear. But I have yet to have a problem, and I have done a bar crawl in the city of all things. And to the previous poster the best places to sit down for a meal is Brick City or Scullys.
If you want to do that get there EARLY. My cousin and I tried to go there before the Tampa game, we got there at 5 and it was packed, they said it would be a 45 minute wait for a table (for two!). And there weren't any seats at the bar either.
Drewr15 04-08-2009, 02:08 PM yeah I don't take the train so i did not know there was a pizza place in the gateway thingy. Alright so either that or Mike's.
Thanks everyone.
DevsOwnYou 04-08-2009, 02:36 PM yeah I don't take the train so i did not know there was a pizza place in the gateway thingy. Alright so either that or Mike's.
Thanks everyone.
I'll be at Mike's most likely for a post game bite to eat.
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