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glenwo2 01-11-2009, 03:09 AM I appreciate that Kevin was out there speaking with Steve and not Stan Fischler. :laugh:
By the way, one of you said that Kevin looked skinny.....Have you taken a look at his arms?? THE MAN IS RIPPED! :amazed:
fortheloveof666 01-11-2009, 11:30 AM http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r60/mr740ti/fail/millionaire_idiot_fail.jpg
Are we being serious here? An apreciation thread for playing one good game?
Richer's Ghost 01-11-2009, 01:10 PM Are we being serious here? An apreciation thread for playing one good game?
:laugh:
It was a BIG game... :sarcasm:
Njdevilsfireonice30 01-11-2009, 01:14 PM Are we being serious here? An appreciation thread for playing one good game?
:yo:
kyle evs48 01-11-2009, 01:45 PM I stand by what I said; Weekes looks skinny.
Harrison Ford 01-11-2009, 01:46 PM Jeez after one game? Lets let him get consecutive starts before we make an appreciation thread...;)
SCOTTIESTEVENS 01-11-2009, 03:57 PM I appreciate you Kevin Weekes zomg!
ILikeItVeryMuch 01-11-2009, 04:02 PM omg000se best goalie ever vezzinerrrr winnahh
glenwo2 01-11-2009, 05:28 PM http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r60/mr740ti/fail/millionaire_idiot_fail.jpg
Everyone's a critic.
by the way, Weekes got the 1st star here :
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/recap;_ylt=AiProopjszlBlgCnllw3E7d7vLYF?gid=200901 1008&prov=ap
Jiri Bicek 01-11-2009, 08:29 PM Jeez after one game? Lets let him get consecutive starts before we make an appreciation thread...;)
Pleas read the FAQs
1st star in a game = Appreciation Thread
:p:
fortheloveof666 01-11-2009, 08:31 PM We're critics because not only is the basis of this thread frivolous, but the thread itself is really unnecessary. Which is why I, in an act of sympathy, decided to even post to begin with.
While maybe I'm overstepping my bounds, the last thing we needed was another pointless thread when there's been a plethora of them in the last 2 weeks or so.
DevilBesideYou 01-11-2009, 08:44 PM If the point is to appreciate Weekes, it's not really pointless, is it? There's far more pointless stuff floating around anyway. (Now if someone had said this is the ultimate jinx, then that would be understandable.):sarcasm: It's the thought that counts, obviously.
Sure, Weekes played well, but he's also the consummate team guy. He's barely played the past two years, but you don't hear him complaining or talking himself up. He gives all the credit to this teammates. People like him are always underappreciated.
glenwo2 01-11-2009, 11:38 PM Maybe I should create a REFS ARE EVIL AND TORONTO IS HELL thread then?
Classic Devil 01-11-2009, 11:47 PM Maybe I should create a REFS ARE EVIL AND TORONTO IS HELL thread then?
Please don't.
glenwo2 01-12-2009, 12:21 AM Just a thought. :sarcasm:
Harrison Ford 01-12-2009, 10:14 AM i hope weekes gets the start on tuesday in vancouver. there is no reason to not play him.
Mr Bojanglez 01-12-2009, 10:17 AM I wasn't gonna post in this, cause I didn't want to bump it up. Now that its bumped, can everyone else refrain from posting in this as not to bump it.... (re reads, checks it, makes sense)
He had one good game. I admit that I think he's better than he had previously been, but I think we're getting ahead of ourselves.
The Thomas J. 01-12-2009, 10:53 AM Just to add my 2cents,
I remember when he was on the Rangers, his mates really appreciated how fast he could anticpate a line change & open the door to the bench for them, weeks also displyed uncanny concentration holding the door open & closing it with one swift arm motion & never tweaked a hammy while preforming his benchly duties.
Here's to you KW!
Mr Bojanglez 01-12-2009, 11:00 AM Just to add my 2cents,
I remember when he was on the Rangers, his mates really appreciated how fast he could anticpate a line change & open the door to the bench for them, weeks also displyed uncanny concentration holding the door open & closing it with one swift arm motion & never tweaked a hammy while preforming his benchly duties.
Here's to you KW!
lol you ass. Funny though
Cowbell232 01-12-2009, 11:13 AM omg000se best goalie ever vezzinerrrr winnahh
Thats what Rangers fans sounded like that for about 10 games. Well, my friends at least... maybe not all Rangers fans.
The Jersey Devil 01-12-2009, 11:24 AM I appreciate that Kevin was out there speaking with Steve and not Stan Fischler. :laugh:
By the way, one of you said that Kevin looked skinny.....Have you taken a look at his arms?? THE MAN IS RIPPED! :amazed:
Thank you Weekes for getting a win against a terrible team when the Devils put up 5 goals and held the puck most of the game.
Fataldogg 01-12-2009, 12:53 PM Ok, relax. He is too good a guy to be insulted by everyone. He had a great game against LA, and even if you think LA is a garbage team, they are playing .500 hockey and in today's NHL, any team can hurt you badly if you're not on your game.
Weekes was. He was rock solid for the first two periods, and in the third, after a flukey deflection, he came up with a couple of great saves to keep it 3-1. If the Kings had scored on one of their numerous great chances right after their goal, the game would've been very different.
Not saying create a whole appreciation thread for one game, but as far as consistency goes, he has consistently faced much harder shots than Scotty because consistently the Devils have played horribly in front of him. Weekes could've easily given up at least 3 against LA and still had a solid game and of course, it helps when the Devils score no matter who plays.
Classic Devil 01-12-2009, 12:55 PM Weekes has played better than Clemmensen lately.
Fataldogg 01-12-2009, 12:59 PM Clemmensen had a great run, honestly. I never in my wildest dreams would've thought he'd play half as good as he did when he was given the chance. But he really hasn't been the same lately, even when rested against the Ducks. It's been about 5 straight games where he's giving up 3-4 on a pretty consistent basis.
Not even faulting him either, but I think since Weekes did play a great game against LA, he really deserves to start in Vancouver. In the least bit, if he plays well, he should be given the same opportunity that Clemmensen was given earlier in the year.
Gunnar Stahl 30 01-12-2009, 01:31 PM this is the second appreciation thread for a guy who has played 9 games. wheres the clemmensen appreciation thread? he has helped keep this team afloat whilst marty has been out
Fataldogg 01-12-2009, 01:55 PM Hey, I'll give Clemmensen all the props in the world. I just don't like his attitude. As soon as he started getting hot, every interview he did was, "I'm good, people never got to see it before, but now they see what I'm capable of." He's cocky in an obnoxious way at points. Weekes was interviewed about his great game, and he sits there and brags about the defense and the team effort while Scotty brags about himself. I just think in general, Weekes has to be one of the most down to earth, well spoken, truly nice guys of hockey that I've ever seen. All that aside, being a nice guy doesn't mean you play more games, but I think he deserves to start in Vancouver after his last win, and I have really had a good feeling about him regaining his form on this West Coast swing the whole time. If he plays well, he will deserve more time. It's just easy to pull for a guy like this.
devilzrule27 01-12-2009, 02:11 PM Hey, I'll give Clemmensen all the props in the world. I just don't like his attitude. As soon as he started getting hot, every interview he did was, "I'm good, people never got to see it before, but now they see what I'm capable of." He's cocky in an obnoxious way at points. Weekes was interviewed about his great game, and he sits there and brags about the defense and the team effort while Scotty brags about himself. I just think in general, Weekes has to be one of the most down to earth, well spoken, truly nice guys of hockey that I've ever seen. All that aside, being a nice guy doesn't mean you play more games, but I think he deserves to start in Vancouver after his last win, and I have really had a good feeling about him regaining his form on this West Coast swing the whole time. If he plays well, he will deserve more time. It's just easy to pull for a guy like this.
He has always had confidence in himself. It isn't cockiness. He doesn't let things fluster him and its the reason he had been able to stick around for so long at the AHL and NHL level. He certainly isnt the most talented goalie in the world so having that confidence and the state of mind that he can go out and compete on that same level as anyone else is his key to success. Scotty always thanks everyone else on the team. The only time he talks about himself is when he is directly asked about finally getting a chance. What do you want him to say? "Oh I'm not any good. it's because of everyone else on the team that I won. Heck I don't even know why they called me up. Caruso would have been a better choice."
Go back and read any interview from Clemmer before this year and you'll see he always had confidence in himself even when no one else did. Confidence is everything for a goalie. The best goalies in the history of the NHL all thought they were the ****, even Marty. It's the mindset of all good goalies. I'm sure Weekes believes in himself to the same degree Clemmer does.
devilzrule27 01-12-2009, 02:12 PM this is the second appreciation thread for a guy who has played 9 games. wheres the clemmensen appreciation thread? he has helped keep this team afloat whilst marty has been out
My old GDTs were Clemmer appreciation enough.:sarcasm:
Fataldogg 01-23-2009, 12:45 AM I found an interesting interview with Kevin on his website. His professionalism and loyalty to the Devils is ridiculous. But, if you read the responses, definitely seems to not be the happiest about not being given a fair shot by his organization. Here is just one question asked and the response. Not a bad interview and really worth checking out. He is a heck of an unselfish, team guy.
6) When Martin Brodeur was injured during a game and the organisation of the New Jersey Devils learned that he could play during a lot of time, everybody thought that it would be you the goaltender but Scott Clemensen took your place. What’s your feeling about this situation?
Kevin: Many in the hockey world thought I would have had the opportunity to play more than I have, and so did I! That being said,sports IS a business and many things in this business are beyond our control. Scott has been given the platform and played well, I have not been given the same platform, but I've also played well. Most importantly our team, beyond everybody's expectations-has continued to play well!
Harrison Ford 01-23-2009, 12:48 AM Ugh i really hope the reason Clemmer is playing so much is because he will be traded. I hate to see Weekes get absolutely shafted here. He is such a classy guy and fits so well in our organization, but maybe they feel like he doesnt.
Classic Devil 01-23-2009, 12:50 AM Ugh i really hope the reason Clemmer is playing so much is because he will be traded. I hate to see Weekes get absolutely shafted here. He is such a classy guy and fits so well in our organization, but maybe they feel like he doesnt.
I want Weekes to stay. I want Clemmer to go.
daveskirtun 01-23-2009, 12:55 AM I want Weekes to stay. I want Clemmer to go.
http://www.nabble.com/file/p12992610/istockphoto_1535790_i_agree.jpg
Das Uber 01-23-2009, 12:57 AM http://www.nabble.com/file/p12992610/istockphoto_1535790_i_agree.jpg
Brown noser.
daveskirtun 01-23-2009, 12:59 AM Brown noser.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh56/NevadaWildcard/Motivational%20Posters/whos_awesome.jpg
Fataldogg 01-23-2009, 01:05 AM Granted, Clemmer has composed himself now and the Devils are 6-1 heading into the break. But honestly, a lot of that can be owed to Weekes. The Devils got into a habit of win one, lose one for quite a while and Clemmer got into the habit of giving up a couple bad goals per game on a routine basis. Weekes started the road trip and he was just incredibly sharp. The Devils jumped out to a 3-0 lead over LA and then Weekes had held the fort. He played a calm, cool, collected game and when it was 3-1 with the Kings running rampant over the Devils in the 3rd, Weekes made several huge saves. I could've seen Clemmer blowing that lead and allowing the Kings to rally. I think getting that win over LA was clearly the victory that got the Devils back on track. Weekes outplayed Clemmer on the road trip up, and if Sutter didn't play favorites and stuck to his word, we would be seeing Weekes as the guy right now as he should've started against the Islanders. I take nothing away from Clemmer, but it's just tough to see such a classy guy, who has actually played well, really get absolutely no chance, especially when he supports the team to the fullest and has been so patient. Of his 10 games, he's only looked bad once, and I am going to say that was against the Sabres where he gave up a few bad rebounds that they cashed in on. I actually thought Weekes looked decent against the Rangers, but the whole team collapsed on him and put him in a shooting gallery allowing the Rangers to walk into the slot unmolested the entire second period.
Harrison Ford 01-23-2009, 01:06 AM Granted, Clemmer has composed himself now and the Devils are 6-1 heading into the break. But honestly, a lot of that can be owed to Weekes. The Devils got into a habit of win one, lose one for quite a while and Clemmer got into the habit of giving up a couple bad goals per game on a routine basis. Weekes started the road trip and he was just incredibly sharp. The Devils jumped out to a 3-0 lead over LA and then Weekes had held the fort. He played a calm, cool, collected game and when it was 3-1 with the Kings running rampant over the Devils in the 3rd, Weekes made several huge saves. I could've seen Clemmer blowing that lead and allowing the Kings to rally. I think getting that win over LA was clearly the victory that got the Devils back on track. Weekes outplayed Clemmer on the road trip up, and if Sutter didn't play favorites and stuck to his word, we would be seeing Weekes as the guy right now as he should've started against the Islanders. I take nothing away from Clemmer, but it's just tough to see such a classy guy, who has actually played well, really get absolutely no chance, especially when he supports the team to the fullest and has been so patient. Of his 10 games, he's only looked bad once, and I am going to say that was against the Sabres where he gave up a few bad rebounds that they cashed in on. I actually thought Weekes looked decent against the Rangers, but the whole team collapsed on him and put him in a shooting gallery allowing the Rangers to walk into the slot unmolested the entire second period.
you nailed it, on the head. this double standard makes me upset.
Classic Devil 01-23-2009, 01:07 AM Clemmer, on a team with weaker rebound control and recovery, is a much weaker goaltender. He relies so much on his defense and forwards to be the first ones to the puck after a shot. He's better at stopping the first shot than Weekes, but I actually think overall Weekes is the stronger goaltender.
I'd like to see Clemmer dealt to someone like the Kings, though, where he'd have a shot at being a starter next season.
Harrison Ford 01-23-2009, 01:08 AM Clemmer, on a team with weaker rebound control and recovery, is a much weaker goaltender. He relies so much on his defense and forwards to be the first ones to the puck after a shot. He's better at stopping the first shot than Weekes, but I actually think overall Weekes is the stronger goaltender.
I'd like to see Clemmer dealt to someone like the Kings, though, where he'd have a shot at being a starter next season.
Clemmer for Doughty.
Classic Devil 01-23-2009, 01:09 AM Clemmer for Doughty.
:facepalm:
If only.
Harrison Ford 01-23-2009, 01:11 AM Clemmer, Bergfors, 2nd for Matt Greene
daveskirtun 01-23-2009, 01:13 AM Kopitar or bust
Fataldogg 01-23-2009, 01:16 AM Clemmer, on a team with weaker rebound control and recovery, is a much weaker goaltender. He relies so much on his defense and forwards to be the first ones to the puck after a shot. He's better at stopping the first shot than Weekes, but I actually think overall Weekes is the stronger goaltender.
I'd like to see Clemmer dealt to someone like the Kings, though, where he'd have a shot at being a starter next season.
I am hoping one of the two is traded. If Clemmer isn't traded, it's gonna be really tough to see Weekes as a healthy scratch. If nothing else, he deserves to be dressed and have that spot on the bench. The funny thing is, they're in a position where, after this season ends, I don't think either guy would want to resign with them. Clemmer will probably want to sign somewhere else because you can consider this a breakout year of sorts for him. Weekes, who knows? He's a guy who has, in past years, played 66 games, 61 games, 58 games, 55 games when he was a starter, yet Sutter pulled the plug on him after one rough night and never gave him a shot to bounce back. Why would Weekes want to resign when his own coach and organization wouldn't even give him a shot to play when the teams starting goalie went down? My best guess is neither guy will be here next year.
guyincognito 01-23-2009, 01:56 AM Weekes' game against LA was the best game I've seen a non-Marty Devils goalie play this season, and not that far off from Marty. Note, I said game, as Clemmer had great spurts like that 5 on 3 vs. the Rangers. But I really don't think the team was that good on 1/10 or whenever the hell that game was. It's the only game I've seen in almost 3 weeks.
Problem is, Weekes is good for one ****up a night, and the goal he gave up against LA was brutal, and according to TG, the goal he gave up against CLB was brutal too.
Clemmer isn't going to get traded, he has little value unless someone has lost their minda and thinks after this, he is a legitimate long-term NHL starter. Hey, dumber has happened, who knows...
daveskirtun 01-23-2009, 01:59 AM I thought the best goalie performance this year was Clemmer in our 2nd win over the NYR. Don't forget the 5on3
Das Uber 01-24-2009, 10:18 AM Call up Eckford!!!
yakitate304 01-24-2009, 04:46 PM I thought the best goalie performance this year was Clemmer in our 2nd win over the NYR. Don't forget the 5on3
I agree with that.
I love Weeksie, but the fact of the matter is that for every good performance he's had, he's had two where he looked shaky. When Weekes looks shaky, he lets in goals, whereas Clemmer can make saves even when he's not on his game and then come back to play well in the same game. He gets it done even if he has to look kind of silly doing it. He also plays with a lot more poise and focus that Kevin does. That mental difference is what has kept Weekes on the bench, in my opinion.
Fataldogg 01-25-2009, 06:41 PM Mental focus or double standard? Weekes showed no signs of having problems focusing on the road trip when he clearly outplayed Clemmer and should've been given the opportunity to get a few starts in a row if Sutter saying he would go with the hot-guy was an accurate statement. At the time, Weekes won two straight, gave up just 1 in each, and Clemmer had given up 3 or more in 7 out of 8, hardly making him "hot." Instead, Sutter showed how he does play favorites and continued to just shove Clemmer in net all the time until he could bounce back. If Weekes was given just ONE chance to bounce back after that Rangers game, we may not even be having this discussion, but anyone who says that based on their play, that Weekes was given the same shot as Clemmer is wearing blinders.
Gunnar Stahl 30 01-25-2009, 06:49 PM clemmers rebounds are awful, ive been saying this for months now
kyle evs48 01-25-2009, 06:50 PM to Weekes:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_As2kgMdqwmU/Rjjjh07RokI/AAAAAAAAABU/f6xHy89Oy3M/catgod.jpg
Das Uber 01-25-2009, 07:02 PM Mental focus or double standard? Weekes showed no signs of having problems focusing on the road trip when he clearly outplayed Clemmer and should've been given the opportunity to get a few starts in a row if Sutter saying he would go with the hot-guy was an accurate statement. At the time, Weekes won two straight, gave up just 1 in each, and Clemmer had given up 3 or more in 7 out of 8, hardly making him "hot." Instead, Sutter showed how he does play favorites and continued to just shove Clemmer in net all the time until he could bounce back. If Weekes was given just ONE chance to bounce back after that Rangers game, we may not even be having this discussion, but anyone who says that based on their play, that Weekes was given the same shot as Clemmer is wearing blinders.
There is no double standard. When Clemmer got hot, Weekes was 1-4. At the start of the road trip, Clemmer was 16-8-1. Sutter wasn't going to just ditch him and switch to Weekes because he hit a rough patch. Sutter won't admit it, but Clemmer is pretty much our number 1 unless he really starts to stink it up.
Darius Dangleaitis 01-25-2009, 07:04 PM Eh, when it comes down to it, Brodeur is clearly going to be playing all the playoff games, so I think Weekes' notoriously valuable locker room presence will earn him the nod.
Clemmer has been waaaaaay too good to send down though. It makes the most sense to trade him to a Western team that is looking to strengthen their goaltending for the stretch run and playoffs.
Gunnar Stahl 30 01-25-2009, 07:04 PM sutter isnt here to make all the players happy, he is here to win games anyway he can and he is doing that
Darius Dangleaitis 01-25-2009, 07:14 PM sutter isnt here to make all the players happy, he is here to win games anyway he can and he is doing that
Exactly. The Pandolfo situation is a perfect example of this. There's no room for sappiness. These guys are professionals and if there's someone better out there you can bet they will and should be playing.
Classic Devil 01-25-2009, 07:26 PM Eh, when it comes down to it, Brodeur is clearly going to be playing all the playoff games, so I think Weekes' notoriously valuable locker room presence will earn him the nod.
Clemmer has been waaaaaay too good to send down though. It makes the most sense to trade him to a Western team that is looking to strengthen their goaltending for the stretch run and playoffs.
Spot on.
britdevil 01-26-2009, 10:05 AM Kevin Weekes... is just like.... a mini mall!
Mr Bojanglez 01-26-2009, 10:34 AM I think Weekes is a better backup, and Clemmer is a better starter. I think Weekes can handle the random games here and there better than Clemmer.... but Clemmer can handle a higher workload
kyle evs48 01-26-2009, 10:36 AM Weekes succumbs to pressure pretty easily.
Take November 12th against the Rags for example. He let in soft goals and was pulled after 2 periods.
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