Friends again?

Swedes and canadiens. Are we friends again? :handclap:

Ask Jacob Markstrom. :sarcasm:

Ask Jacob Markstrom. :sarcasm:

When the Panthers are playing against the Hurricanes the ref won't know what to do.

When the Panthers are playing against the Hurricanes the ref won't know what to do.

Dive on top of them.

Ask Jacob Markstrom. :sarcasm:

Yeah like he's the bad guy, hitting canadians with cheapshots:sarcasm:

Of course. I have a lot of respect for swedish hockey. Always have.

Memorable tournaments like this one should bond us closer together as hockey nations. Eventually the kids from each country will grow older, join the same teams and reminisce on the experience that was. I believe this was one of the greatest junior tournaments ever...and I'm not just saying that because Canada won. It was amazing to watch thanks in large part to Canada's competition.

Yeah like he's the bad guy, hitting canadians with cheapshots:sarcasm:

Hitting is for sissies, I'd bite them.

Some sweet moments we have had together.. :)

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Hitting is for sissies, I'd bite them.

I wouldn't be surprised if Canada did that too to win.

I wouldn't be surprised if Canada did that too to win.

you didn't get it, did you?-

Ask Jacob Markstrom. :sarcasm:

Actually, he is one of the few that has said nothing bad about the incidents.

Yesterdays interview during the ceremony he said that:
"- It´s hockey and it´s the refs job to deal with it. Things happens and I don´t care about it."

Today he says to the media, about the accidents/collisions/tricks/attacks or what ever:
"- What happens happen. It has happened before and it will happen again."

So, he has not whined about once. The only thing he complained about was the penalty he got after the Della Rovere incident.

The swedes don't have to feel bad. I mean, swedish girls are still swedish right? That's what's important.

I don't see what the problem is. If there is any blame to put, it's not on Canada.

A team would be stupid not to take advantage of a weakness of another. If the ref doesn't call it the first time, they should try it a second time as well, etc.

you didn't get it, did you?-

I saw only canadians hitting Markström and getting away with it, no biting...What didn't I get?

The swedes don't have to feel bad. I mean, swedish girls are still swedish right? That's what's important.
mmh.. yes, but.. but..
Finns keep hitting them none the less! :naughty:

Some sweet moments we have had together.. :)



its like we're brothers

fighting like cat and dog, but we secretly love each other

I saw only canadians hitting Markström and getting away with it, no biting...What didn't I get?

Oh, really, must have been watching a different game. I saw Divestrom going out to play the puck and purposely trying to get hit and doing some cartwheels in the air. Face it, your team tried just to try and draw penalties from the get-go (started with Divestrom diving when HIS OWN TEAM MATE hit him). Maybe they should have tried to play hockey instead. I don't know how you play hockey in Sweden but in North America we have diving rules. If he wants to be a diver, he should take up hockey and get into swimming because it isn't allowed here.

Some sweet moments we have had together.. :)

kgABDWYloz0

oh man Peter's goal sure was sweet. One of my fav moves that i've copied playing roller hockey.

Sweden put that goal on a stamp right.

After reading the entire thread about the ref conspiracy theory... I thought friendship would never be possible again. How can two groups of people see things so differently and be so sure of themselves that they are right? I'm guessing both sides were at fault, and the truth is somewhere in the middle. Suggesting there is a conspiracy is juvenile and idiotic. Obviously an opinion of one Swedish fan is not the same of all Swedish fans. I'll leave it at that... I'm trying to hold myself back as best as I can... just like Subban was trying to restrain himself...

Great tournament! Looking forward to watching it all again next year!

Hey

Hey

Hey

Your meatballs suck.

My favorite two teams beyond Canada have always been Sweden and Finland.

Sweden for the skill level and Finland for the heart.

But hey, when gold is on the line...

I demand a Swedish girl brough over for me to have makeup sex with.

oh man Peter's goal sure was sweet. One of my fav moves that i've copied playing roller hockey.

Sweden put that goal on a stamp right.

That's correct. :)

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/images/scoop/stamp.jpg

No, screw you. Sweden is everything Canada's not. It's the slacker's paradise. :cry:

I've always liked Swedish players, and I still do.

After Canada I usually always root for Finland then Sweden. It's not a few sour grape Swedes that will change that for me.

We're really too similar to let something like this get between us.

Just make sure Stockholm isn't so dusty the next time I visit and it'll be all good.

I love me some Swedes. They gave me Daniel Alfredsson, how could I hate them?

I just dislike the whiny punks who don't represent the rest of the country.

That's correct. :)

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/images/scoop/stamp.jpg

I've herd but was not quite sure. fist time seeing image of the stamp. thanks

At the end of the day Sweden is never like Russia. We just can't hate them as much. It's harder to hate Sweden in many ways. Now, don't get me wrong I felt the passion against each other, but Russia always takes the cake no matter what. Even a bunch of Russian junior kids we're unfamiliar with I hate with a passion.

Sweden is kind of like Finland. Hard to hate. Although Finland not being nearly as successful.

Just thought of this for a second. I wonder how often Kane and Toews reminisce about 2007? Kane could have won it had he slid the puck under Price in the shootout, and Toews was just money in the bank

No, ofcourse not.

Frienemies.

Ask Jacob Markstrom. :sarcasm:

He's too busy practicing for the summer olympics :sarcasm:

I buy my furniture at IKEA!

I buy my furniture at IKEA!

We all do.

I buy my furniture at IKEA!

We all do.

Hell no, I like my furniture to last, I don't like particle board/mdf furniture.

Truth be told if it was not for the goal of the year from the super kid Jordan Eberle property of the Edmonton Oilers:yo:. I would cheer for Sweden in the gold medal game against the Russians. But he scored oh well.:nod:

Hell no, I like my furniture to last, I don't like particle board/mdf furniture.

Its tested man. Durable and cheap. Come clean a bet your house is full of Ikea. I know i even have the three pronged forks that are populer with any guests i have over.:nod:

There's definitely been a Swedish pipeline to Canadian NHL teams over the years, Borje Salming, Mats Sundin, Peter Forsberg, Mats Naslund, Markus Naslund, Daniel Alfredsson, Hakan Loob, Mattias Ohlund, the Sedins, Kent Nilsson, Thomas Steen, Anders Hedberg, Ulf Nilsson, etc etc.

How can we not be friends?

Its tested man. Durable and cheap. Come clean a bet your house is full of Ikea. I know i even have the three pronged forks that are populer with any guests i have over.:nod:

On the same note, been to the IKEA in Edmonton? probably, I get lost every ****ing time :rant:

Its tested man. Durable and cheap. Come clean a bet your house is full of Ikea. I know i even have the three pronged forks that are populer with any guests i have over.:nod:

The only Ikea stuff I have are things like desk lamps that are plastic and dirt cheap, the rest I bought at furniture stores and I know are actual wood and not pieces of shredded wood fused/glued together to make a board of wood to build the furniture out of. Ikea furniture warps and the veneer starts to peel off way too easily. Sure it will still open and close but the quality is well, you pay for what you get and if you are young and low on funds, it's furniture heaven.

As someone that used to design furniture as apart of his job...I'd be letting myself down by buying their crap.

On the same note, been to the IKEA in Edmonton? probably, I get lost every ****ing time :rant:

Ive gone missing for a week lucky there were meatballs that were cheap that saved me from starvation. If your Girlfriend ask you to go look for office chairs refuse.:dunno:

Swedes and canadiens. Are we friends again? :handclap:


As far as I am concerned we never stopped being friends in the first place.

Ive gone missing for a week lucky there were meatballs that were cheap that saved me from starvation. If your Girlfriend ask you to go look for office chairs refuse.:dunno:

They do serve killer breakfast there and the hot dogs are good, really cheap too. It's where I hang out when I go to Ikea with ex-gf's. It sucked being an Interior-Architectural Designer/Student a few years back with my ex's. I'd always get stuck trying to help them pick out furniture and paint samples. Ikea was like the favourite stop for cheap furniture since they were always on a budget and I wasn't going to buy them ****, we were dating, not married. So I'd hit up the cafe things they had in Ikea, the bigger ones had restaurants pretty much, a cafeteria type of deal.

I might and I say this loosely, buy a bookshelf from Ikea, I need a huge ass one and they have huge ones for cheap.


Anyways, I had no idea there was any animosity towards Swedes and Canadians? I thought Canada didn't like Russia and etc in these tourneys.

Of course we are friends and we (Sweden) is getting closer and closer...

The main problem is that Sweden and Canada are playing two different styles of hockey and have always done that. The referees in Sweden and Canada also judges VERY differently which sometimes cause confusion at an international level (or for young swedish players in AHL, CHL and NHL).

Canada is playing a MUCH more phsyical type of hockey and even fights is (almost) a natural part of the game. Canada is also usually playing a more offensive kind of hockey, shooting from all angles and driving straight to the net hard...

Personally I sometime think a fight is ok and necessary when standing up for a team mate or reacting if you are getting attacked yourself. Sweden should not be a team with poor sportmanship though. But you can't just stand and watch when a team mate is being humiliated or treated poorly.

Sweden is more technical and great skaters.

What we have seen the last 10 years or so is that Sweden is slowly adopting a more canadian style of hockey (which I love). We are still not forgetting about the technical part though and our speed (which is great). We are not there yet though but we are getting closer.

Swedes have always been big, tall, strong and good atheletes. We have all the ingrediences, but we have a long way to go with the mental part. Just like Canadians we need a much tougher winning attitude, more heart and also a stronger physical play. Of course I want us to reach this level still having good sportmanship.

Our neighbour Finland actually often show more heart than us but they are less skilled than us. ;-) On the attitude side we can still learn a lot from countries like Canada and Finland.

Now we are even.. :sarcasm:

http://www.hockeyexpressen.se/Nyheter/1.1423657/ketchup-attack-mot-kanadas-ambassad


Translation in short:
The Canadian embassy in Stockholm was smeared in ketchup after the final.

I would have prefered they used maple syrup. ;)

Now we are even.. :sarcasm:

http://www.hockeyexpressen.se/Nyheter/1.1423657/ketchup-attack-mot-kanadas-ambassad


Translation in short:
The Canadian embassy in Stockholm was smeared in ketchup after the final.

I would have prefered they used maple syrup. ;)
Hehe... I mean, ketchup? Someone must've been really drunk and upset and used whatever he had at home. "I'm so mad, that I will make the effort of going to the Canadian embassy and spray ketchup on the door! And leave my garbage outside!" How immature and in some way quite harmlessly comical.

Translated into english (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hockeyexpressen.se%2FNyheter%2F 1.1423657%2Fketchup-attack-mot-kanadas-ambassad&sl=sv&tl=en&history_state0=)

As far as the grudges go, I guess some Canadians were annoyed at some immature Swedish posters mostly before the game and some Swedes were annoyed at some immature Canadian posters mainly after the game. Canadian media means Markström embellished everything, while the Swedish media means Markström was unfairly treated and was attacked without anything happening. It's nothing more than that. I think most can agree which team played the best game overall yesterday and deserved the win. In terms of skill level, perhaps the outcome would've been different on a different day, but that's what you get on international level and that's the beauty of it.

As some of you've already mentioned in this thread and as the Canadian ambassador in the article said, Sweden and Canada are as countries quite much alike. Same climate, same politics and quite similar culture. Except when it comes to hockey, then Canadians are totally crazy. ;)

I demand a Swedish girl brough over for me to have makeup sex with.

At first I laughed but then I though "Wait... what if this guys is 50 or something..." and then I got really disturbed...:help:

Swedish fans were very respectful at the game. This might be because they were outnumbered 500-1 but still. Hope no one gave them anything more than a few friendly verbal jabs. How can anyone stay mad at you lovable Swedes?

Hey

Hey

Hey

Your meatballs suck.

HEY! Low blow, man, low blow..

No but seriously, Canada was the best team and they won fair and square. It's just a few posters here making all swedes look bad. And sure I might have a lovehate relationship with Canadians but it's part of why I love when our hockeyteams face off against each other.

It's entertaining and I just can't help but laugh when the swedish media blow everything out of proportion. Like with the refs, and probably over there with Markström diving, sure he did a few 9.5ers but what should he have done, the ref didn't call the first ones so he embellished. He is young, playing in the biggest game of his life.

Anwho that's my two cents, and I can't wait until next years WJC when hopefully we meet in the finals, but this time, it's our time to shine!

Peace!

Man the way swedes ramble on about that game, they would be shocked and appalled to see the style that the best hockey in the world is played like: The Stanley Cup Playoffs!

Oh, really, must have been watching a different game. I saw Divestrom going out to play the puck and purposely trying to get hit and doing some cartwheels in the air. Face it, your team tried just to try and draw penalties from the get-go (started with Divestrom diving when HIS OWN TEAM MATE hit him). Maybe they should have tried to play hockey instead. I don't know how you play hockey in Sweden but in North America we have diving rules. If he wants to be a diver, he should take up hockey and get into swimming because it isn't allowed here. let it go canada won, why do you have to be such a jackass, calling markstrom divestrom, I mean I see good old canadian boys diving every night in the nhl. And try to remember his name is markstrom and he's gonna be a superstar in the nhl real soon.

He's too busy practicing for the summer olympics :sarcasm:

He'll need all the pratice he can get. If Canada enters Sydney Crosby the best Markstrom can hope for is a distant silver :sarcasm:

He'll need all the pratice he can get. If Canada enters Sydney Crosby the best Markstrom can hope for is a distant silver :sarcasm:

You mean Sidney?

LEAVE SIDNEY ALONE

http://josearroyo.org/files/page1_blog_entry109_1.jpg

Sorry, but there's no olympic sport called whining.:naughty:

Oh, really, must have been watching a different game. I saw Divestrom going out to play the puck and purposely trying to get hit and doing some cartwheels in the air. Face it, your team tried just to try and draw penalties from the get-go (started with Divestrom diving when HIS OWN TEAM MATE hit him). Maybe they should have tried to play hockey instead. I don't know how you play hockey in Sweden but in North America we have diving rules. If he wants to be a diver, he should take up hockey and get into swimming because it isn't allowed here.

NEWFLASH!

I'm from Finland and the only thing I love more than seeing Sweden losing, is seeing Finland winning. Sweden-Canada battles I always root for Canada. But after seeing what happened in this final, I just don't get it. Clear hits and refs let it all happen. Of course these guys do it again when it's allowed.

If he dives, he should get 2min or 10 min because diving. But also the canadian players should have gotten penalties because there were a clear contact. You can call this whining or whatever...for me it's okay the canada won, they were better. But I just can't let these things through my fingers and watching a game where a young promising goalie 's career is in danger.

NEWFLASH!

I'm from Finland and the only thing I love more than seeing Sweden losing, is seeing Finland winning. Sweden-Canada battles I always root for Canada. But after seeing what happened in this final, I just don't get it. Clear hits and refs let it all happen. Of course these guys do it again when it's allowed.

If he dives, he should get 2min or 10 min because diving. But also the canadian players should have gotten penalties because there were a clear contact. You can call this whining or whatever...for me it's okay the canada won, they were better. But I just can't let these things through my fingers and watching a game where a young promising goalie 's career is in danger.

You can argue one way or the other as to which way penalties should have gone, but ... "career in danger"? I don't think so?

Im hoping we can all get past this diving/goaltender interference issue, both sides going back and forth has been stupid to see, the tournament is over lets all smoke a fatty and remember what a great tournament it was!:nod:

Let's never fight again ok? We do it because we love you.

I never blamed Canada for anything really, other than the fans that kept trying to say Markstrom was diving. He falls easy, yes, but he cant help that. For anyone that has seen him before, all the "diving" stuff only sounds stupid.
I few months ago in SEL with Brynas, he and one of his teamates went for the same puck and there was no communication between them. I swear, marktstrom was still in the air when the opponent grabbed the loose puck and scored. Think he was diving?
Face it, he is almost 2 meters long, only like 80kg, and doesnt have great balance.

As for the refs.. Yeah, they suck. Of cours they do. If Canada loses a final (in canada!), and the ref. happened to "favour" the other team, that ref. will have a hard time getting jobs in the future. For that never to happen, the ref. has to be pro-canada in every game of that type. Simple as that. But thats not the canadians fault in any way.

So yeah, friends. :handclap:

Swedes and canadiens. Are we friends again? :handclap:

Friends? The only thing we can ever be/have with the blasted Canucks is a Truce.

We soon be at it again in another final or something. We are like Israel and Palestina of hockey. And well, Canada did whine a lot on Sweden in 2006 so we all know they turn whiney too :laugh:

Man the way swedes ramble on about that game, they would be shocked and appalled to see the style that the best hockey in the world is played like: The Stanley Cup Playoffs!

Tomas Holmström + Goaltender ;)

Lets all hail Eric Lindros, a Swedish Canadian and a role model when it comes to keeping good relations. :handclap:

Kinda OT but on facebook there is a group called " Everyone who hates the Canadien Hockey team" and a few players from the Swedish World Junior team have joined it. Kinda sad that us hitting them and pissing them off during that game has led them to hate us this much. Hilarious also

Kinda OT but on facebook there is a group called " Everyone who hates the Canadien Hockey team" and a few players from the Swedish World Junior team have joined it. Kinda sad that us hitting them and pissing them off during that game has led them to hate us this much. Hilarious also

Haha, I see Nicklas Lasus name there, now I like him even more. :D

Kinda OT but on facebook there is a group called " Everyone who hates the Canadien Hockey team" and a few players from the Swedish World Junior team have joined it. Kinda sad that us hitting them and pissing them off during that game has led them to hate us this much. Hilarious also

Wow it says they hate the canadian hockey team, more then Hitler hated the Jews.

IF their is some of the players in that group making statements like that might not be good for them if media attention is brought to it.

Swedes and canadiens. Are we friends again? :handclap:

Heck yes. Love you guys!

Hockey nations rock!

Hope for a rematch next year. :yo:

Friends? The only thing we can ever be/have with the blasted Canucks is a Truce.

We soon be at it again in another final or something. We are like Israel and Palestina of hockey. And well, Canada did whine a lot on Sweden in 2006 so we all know they turn whiney too :laugh:

What can we say? We hate losing in hockey.

I'm sure you can relate to that.

Lets all hail Eric Lindros, a Swedish Canadian and a role model when it comes to keeping good relations.
To me he's the typical Canadian elitehockeyplayer of the postGretzky-era. Overhyped as a junior wich probably is the cause of his arrogance and ego (forgot it's a teamsport?), then when it matters as a senior, a complete failiure, big time loser and a weakling, thinkin his still the toughest and best in the world. Embarrasing.

I agree tho, he would make a decent ambassador for the Swedish-Candian relations cause eventhough he is a nonsympatetic caracter I doubt you could find a suitable Canadian that is. And atleast his name got a Swedish connection.

Lindros has norwegian heritage, not swedish?

Lindros has norwegian heritage, not swedish?
That was what I thought too... But the name is so much more swedish (not as common now as 150ish years ago)

That was what I thought too... But the name is so much more swedish (not as common now as 150ish years ago)

"The son of Carl and Bonnie Lindros, Eric has Swedish heritage. The name "Lindros" means "Rose of the Linden tree." His great grandfather Axel immigrated to Canada from Sweden, and Eric is the third generation of the Lindros family to be born in Canada."

I never blamed Canada for anything really, other than the fans that kept trying to say Markstrom was diving. He falls easy, yes, but he cant help that. For anyone that has seen him before, all the "diving" stuff only sounds stupid.
I few months ago in SEL with Brynas, he and one of his teamates went for the same puck and there was no communication between them. I swear, marktstrom was still in the air when the opponent grabbed the loose puck and scored. Think he was diving?

I think people were calling it diving when they actually meant embellishing. Markstrom didn't fake the falls; he exaggerated the severity of them. Particularly on the first one when he was hit by his own player.

Anyway, let's move on.

To me he's the typical Canadian elitehockeyplayer of the postGretzky-era. Overhyped as a junior wich probably is the cause of his arrogance and ego (forgot it's a teamsport?), then when it matters as a senior, a complete failiure, big time loser and a weakling, thinkin his still the toughest and best in the world. Embarrasing.

I agree tho, he would make a decent ambassador for the Swedish-Candian relations cause eventhough he is a nonsympatetic caracter I doubt you could find a suitable Canadian that is. And atleast his name got a Swedish connection.

Ridiculous post. Have you ever even met a Canadian person? It's sad to hear that's the way you think of Canadians even though your assumptions are completely false. What's even worse is that if Sweden ended up winning most Canadians would show a tremendous amount of respect towards the Swedish team for knocking off the top contender. You guys got a great team thats fun to watch, sad to hear you guys don't share the same views towards us.

Yes we are friends again. I have alot of respect for Canadian hockey. Snauen it´s ok to be emotional for awhile but you are starting to embarrass your countrymen with your comments, this swede included.

Ridiculous post. Have you ever even met a Canadian person? It's sad to hear that's the way you think of Canadians even though your assumptions are completely false. What's even worse is that if Sweden ended up winning most Canadians would show a tremendous amount of respect towards the Swedish team for knocking off the top contender. You guys got a great team thats fun to watch, sad to hear you guys don't share the same views towards us.

You obviously post more than you read on here.

I disagree with the previous post per se, but judging from all the Candian fans' posts on here regarding how Swedes are an embarrasment, what we should be ashamed of, what disgrace we are, etc. You can post until your fingers fall off and you still will never convince anybody that there is an ounce of respect for your opponents, or that you believe the Swedish team is fun to watch.

...and you know, that's 100% okay. We're two free countries, and hopefully it will stay that way. Why would a Swede care about what a Canadian think about the national team and vice versa? Sweden is not playing hockey to gain Canada's approval.

Swedes and canadiens. Are we friends again? :handclap:
What? No love for Finland?:sarcasm:

You guys got a great team thats fun to watch, sad to hear you guys don't share the same views towards us.
The reason we dont share that view is that Canada doesn't have a great team that is fun to watch. It's as simple as that ... :naughty:

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Yes we are friends again. I have alot of respect for Canadian hockey. Snauen it´s ok to be emotional for awhile but you are starting to embarrass your countrymen with your comments, this swede included.It's your first post, you're probably a Canadian undercover..

Have you ever even met a Canadian person?
Yes I have, think it's important to separate civil-canadians from the hockey-nationalist ones, wich we are discussing here.

My point whit the Lindros-bashing is to set focus on the arrogance and narrowmindedness that Canada and players like Lindros represent in the hockey world. The constant whining about the Europeans that come over there to play. The lack of respect of other cultures in/of hockey.

We're really too similar to let something like this get between us.

Just make sure Stockholm isn't so dusty the next time I visit and it'll be all good.

Canada's Ambassador in Sweden after someone throwed Ketchup on the embassy after the game:

"But in every aspect, I think that our both countries are as similar as it is possible, says Alexandra Volkoff".




Heading for an article, linked here: "The Junior Crowns were splendid - after the game" (http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1077&a=870621)

From the article:

Erik Karlsson: "It should be like an ordinary bloody away game [ - - - ] We lacked Clutch and Authority"
[Literary he didn’t say “clutch”, but that was what he meant, he used a swearword including the parts "being like" and "Devils"]

Nicklas Lasu: "They where more ignited/on"

Per Mårts (the coach): "In Sweden we try to create players, in Canada they try to create winners".