Tavares being frozen out on PP by his teammates

Anyone else notice this in the last two games?

There's clearly a friendly rivalry between Tavares and Subban but there also seems to be a bit of animosity developing between some of team Canada players and Tavares... perhaps due to his 'haughtiness'?

http://watch.tsn.ca/international-hockey/clip126838#clip126483

I believe that Tavares will be one of the all time greats when all is said and done but I think that it will do this young man some good to take a page out of Bobby Orr and learn to be alittle more humble.

Thoughts?

Anyone else notice this in the last two games?

There's clearly a friendly rivalry between Tavares and Subban but there also seems to be a bit of animosity developing between some of team Canada players and Tavares... perhaps due to his 'haughtiness'?

http://watch.tsn.ca/international-hockey/clip126838#clip126483

I believe that Tavares will be one of the all time greats when all is said and done but I think that it will do this young man some good to take a page out of Bobby Orr and learn to be alittle more humble.

Thoughts?

I think it was more the fact that Sweden decided to focus more on Tavares and therefore, he didn't have the same chances. I think they tried to feed him the puck several times but he was being watched way too closely in this game. I think they learned their lesson from the Russia game not to keep trying to feed Tavares so much.

They tried the cross-crease pass a bunch of times in the Russia game. It just got broken up.

You seriously think that in the Semi-Finals and Finals of the World Junior Hockey Championships, the players are going to intentionally not pass to their best goal scorer?

Tavares was pretty damn humble in his post-game interviews tonight. Stop trying to find problems with him where they don't exist.

Tavares and Subban are buddies :laugh:
On top of that, Sweden and Russia have focused on Tavares opening up more space for the other players to contribute. You could say it's worked.

My thoughts on this issue is that John Tavares just won a gold medal and was named tournament MVP.

My thoughts on this issue is that John Tavares just won a gold medal and was named tournament MVP. If I had to guess, I would say you're either a canuck fan or a montreal canadiens fan hoping to see your team's prospect awarded with the tournament mvp.

Euhmmm.... Subban had absolutely no shot at winning the MVP to begin with, and I would say you're just looking for some excuse to bash Habs fans.

My thoughts on this issue is that John Tavares just won a gold medal and was named tournament MVP. If I had to guess, I would say you're either a canuck fan or a montreal canadiens fan who was hoping to see your team's prospect awarded the tournament mvp.

I think that there are plenty of people who, for whatever reason, want to find or make up any little reason to knock down Tavares, regardless of what team they cheer for.

That said, the Canadiens fan thing seems to be correct, albeit not necessarily a motive.

Tavares is the most humble player on that team, anytime he is asked about his performance he answers that its not about him, abouts the team and winning. To see the opposite, see alexandre ovechkin in the world Jrs, staying on the bench during intermission by himself.

My thoughts on this issue is that John Tavares just won a gold medal and was named tournament MVP. If I had to guess, I would say you're either a canuck fan or a montreal canadiens fan who was hoping to see your team's prospect awarded the tournament mvp.

umm.. what?

it's a bit unfair to jump to conclusions like that, don't you think?

Honestly, PP 2 > PP 1.

I don't really understand why Tavares doesn't get the puck on the PP, but whatever works, they won the gold so nobody can complain about that.

I'm pretty sure I saw Tavares in a heap on the street after being beaten down by his teammates, and having his gold medal stolen from him. (e5)

umm.. what?

If you read what he was typing carefully, the OP was on Tavares's side with his suggestion that he was being frozen out by his teammates.

No. It was a veiled attack at Tavares, claiming that the reason they weren't passing to him was that he needs to be more humble.

Honestly, PP 2 > PP 1.

I don't really understand why Tavares doesn't get the puck on the PP, but whatever works, they won the gold so nobody can complain about that.

Probably because he scored about 739 goals on the exact same play on the PP earlier in the tournament. Eventually teams will have no choice but to devote attention to him, and it will free up other guys to score.

Utterly silly.

No. It was a veiled attack at Tavares, claiming that the reason they weren't passing to him was that he needs to be more humble.

yes, my impression was that the OP was stating that it seemed like he wasn't getting the opportunities to score because he was getting shut out.

:facepalm:

Utterly silly.

What he said.

Euhmmm.... Subban had absolutely no shot at winning the MVP to begin with, and I would say you're just looking for some excuse to bash Habs fans.

My apologies if that's how you took it. I have nothing against any group of fans.

I did read the GDT however and I was not too pleased with some of the comments from fans who were supposedly cheering for team Canada yet also cheering against Tavares when Canada had an empty net.

It was definitely nothing against Tavares. He had so many easy goals other teams decided to shut him down. Too bad for them he's not the only good player on the team.

The difference between Tavares and Crosby, is that Tavares doesn't put on an act and isn't a whiny little *****.

Probably because he scored about 739 goals on the exact same play on the PP earlier in the tournament. Eventually teams will have no choice but to devote attention to him, and it will free up other guys to score.

Yeah but still, I mean the guy never plays that position in the O so you'd think you might want to actually get him the puck a bit seeing how he does have a little bit of talent.

It was a huge plot against Tavares, capped off with Subban pie-ing JT in the face on National Television.

The difference between Tavares and Crosby, is that Tavares doesn't put on an act and isn't a whiny little *****.

I'd take the act and whining of Crosby any day because as good as Tavares is, he's not in Crosby's league nor will he ever be.

I'd take the act and whining of Crosby any day because as good as Tavares is, he's not in Crosby's league nor will he ever be.

how the hell would you know? Give the kid a chance to prove himself

At the beginning of the tournament and in the pretournament I probably might have sided with this opinion on Tavares a little more, but if anything during this tournament he's done a lot to change my mind on his "haughtyness"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsYO1a-Vupo
Friendly Rivalry? Looks like genuine friendship to me.

umm.. what?

it's a bit unfair to jump to conclusions like that, don't you think?

You're right. I edited the comment.

zsYO1a-Vupo
Friendly Rivalry? Looks like genuine friendship to me.

You can literally see the hatred.

:laugh:

People need to stop trying to find reasons to hate on Tavares, if anything this tournament he showed that he wasn't just a me first guy.

As for them not passing to him, both Russia and Sweden (as somebody else mentioned) were cheating to his side, which opened up a lot of space for his teammates to work on the other side. If you noticed Eberle was able to crash his side of the net because the defender was going towards Tavares.

Tavares looks and sounds so much like a 15 year old teenager, slightly nerdy too. Godlike on ice tho.

Tavares looks and sounds so much like a 15 year old teenager, slightly nerdy too. Godlike on ice tho.

I find he's got a deep voice for his age. When he talks he sounds a lot older than the other players on his team.

He does look a bit nerdy, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsYO1a-Vupo
Friendly Rivalry? Looks like genuine friendship to me.

"ok, you know what? 2 weeks without a haircut...and I still look phenomenal."

On the Tavares goal vs Slovakia..."It wasn't that good.."

:laugh: good ol PK.

Anyone else notice this in the last two games?

There's clearly a friendly rivalry between Tavares and Subban but there also seems to be a bit of animosity developing between some of team Canada players and Tavares... perhaps due to his 'haughtiness'?

http://watch.tsn.ca/international-hockey/clip126838#clip126483

I believe that Tavares will be one of the all time greats when all is said and done but I think that it will do this young man some good to take a page out of Bobby Orr and learn to be alittle more humble.

Thoughts?

Another attempt at trying to put the kid down. This kid is as humble as they come. He is always well spoken and always gives his teammates credit. I highly doubt anyone on Team Canada had a problem with Tavares.

I dont know where to post but. Was Tavares good last night? Because honestly what I've seen, whats so special about him? He's lazy, bad skater and can put the puck in a open net against Kazaksthan in powerplay. But I guess thats just me because everyone says he's the best talent there is. So I'm just wondering again, was he good last night? And what makes him so special? Tournament MVP? Come on. Hodgson was way better.

I dont know where to post but. Was Tavares good last night? Because honestly what I've seen, whats so special about him? He's lazy, bad skater and can put the puck in a open net against Kazaksthan in powerplay. But I guess thats just me because everyone says he's the best talent there is. So I'm just wondering again, was he good last night? And what makes him so special? Tournament MVP? Come on. Hodgson was way better.

correct me if I'm wrong but at whatever level he has played at, he has this thing he does, where he scores more goals than anyone else.

I'd take the act and whining of Crosby any day because as good as Tavares is, he's not in Crosby's league nor will he ever be.

Why won't he? He could easily be in Crosby's league, or better.

When there's not drama somewhere, the human mind will go as far as it's imagination will let it to create some. What a dumb thread.

Just like in 2010 at the Olympics there will be people that say ......in no particuar order...

Iginla,Heatly,Luongo,Sam Gagne,Price,Pronger etc etc should be the MVP..........when you get the cream of the crop.........everybody looks good....when the cream rises to the top....it all looks goood.


They all were deserving.Tavares goal scorer lead took Canada on his back and into the game against the Americans,Eberle scored key goals incl the goal against the Russians,Subban brought some clutch goal scoring and good jump start rushes.Hodgson tournament leading scorer,pk,pp,FO--all round man........my vote and yes I am a Van fan.I thought Bob McKenzie echoed my sentiment about MVP the best,yet i look at about 3-4 players that could have won it....Tokarski too........

They are all deserving,and they all played for each other otherwise they would never have come back against US or Russia

There were a lot of little things that showed that Tavares is still learning to become a huge star, which undoubtedly he will become, including not agitating his teammates with his attitude.

I am a firm believer that a lesser talent like Stamkos was even considered a better prospect by so many scouts and the rest of the hockey people as a reaction to Tavares camp and especially his agent's demands for early entry to NHL. This ruffled a lot feathers and in essence, Tavares and his camp is saying that he is better than every body else (which he may very well be) so they deserve special treatment.

This attitude is not blatant but make no mistake, it was and is still there.

I also believe that this is the reason why so many scouts had Hedman so highly regarded...as a reaction to Tavares instead of being based on talent.

The big thing that Hedman has going for him is his skating and size but what good is size when you don't use it? It's clear that he's no Erik Johnson and definitely no Chris Pronger. And he doesn't possess the hockey sense of Drew Doughty.

I've been saying this for over a year now that Drew Doughty is the Victor Hedman that everyone has been looking for!

Hedman is a star prospect with bonifide potential to star in NHL some day but he is no where near where Tavares is in terms of talent and hockey sense and potential...but he had over taken Tavares as consensus #1 prior to the tournament.

Why?

Just like in 2010 at the Olympics there will be people that say ......in no particuar order...

Iginla,Heatly,Luongo,Sam Gagne,Price,Pronger etc etc should be the MVP..........when you get the cream of the crop.........everybody looks good....when the cream rises to the top....it all looks goood.


One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong.

David , where was this talk ? I've read the usual 'criticize the guy that gets the hype' stuff, but I haven't heard talk about any attitude. Any interview I've seen has shown him to be straightforward and even keeled.

I'd take the act and whining of Crosby any day because as good as Tavares is, he's not in Crosby's league nor will he ever be.

He will be come next season. :sarcasm:

This is a weird thread to bring up. I mean Tavares seems so soft spoken and quiet. You see him on Off the Record today? Not colourful at all, very humble and not very talkative. Nothing wrong with that, but reminds me of a Joe Sakic in that regards. I don't know how anyone could think that his own teammates would shut him out. They loved him. His Oshawa teammates love him too, they missed him yesterday when they all went to Shoeless Joe's to watch the game. By all accounts he's a team guy.

Personally I see a chance the guy could win a bunch of Lady Byng trophies in the NHL all the while scoring 50-60 goals. And that isnt a knock, it just goes to show you how humble I truly believe he is

Anyone else notice this in the last two games?

There's clearly a friendly rivalry between Tavares and Subban but there also seems to be a bit of animosity developing between some of team Canada players and Tavares... perhaps due to his 'haughtiness'?

http://watch.tsn.ca/international-hockey/clip126838#clip126483

I believe that Tavares will be one of the all time greats when all is said and done but I think that it will do this young man some good to take a page out of Bobby Orr and learn to be alittle more humble.

Thoughts?


this team was very tight and showed nothing but that when they were on the ice and out in public