Hodgson the difference maker

Bob mackenzie says he was the player of the tournament.
Pierre says says he was the player of the tournament.
Matt sekeres Just said on team1040(in quite energetic fashin) that he was the best.

I completely overreacted, i apologize.
Cody did one amazing job, and he and canada should be proud.

:handclap::handclap:


A great article by Bob McKenzie on TSN.ca.

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/bob_mckenzie/?id=262109

If I was given a vote for Canada's best forward in the tournament, it would go to Cody Hodgson.

Let's get the disclaimer out of the way. I love John Tavares and I have no problem with him being chosen as the top player in the tournament. I've been watching him since he was a little kid, he is a tremendous athlete and he had a phenomenal tournament, but for me the best all-around player and the tournament MVP was Hodgson.

Hodgson did everything for Canada. He scored goals including an enormous one in the Gold medal game, but it was more than that. No matter who he was playing against, be it the Americans, Russians, Swedes, he was absolutely terrific. I'm sure that he logged more minutes than any Canadian forward by the time it was all said and done. He was the offensive engine of this team, whether it be at even strength with Jordan Eberle and Zach Boychuk or making Tavares look great with perfect cross-crease passes on the power play.

Although I was blown away by his play, I was not surprised. Going into this tournament I absolutely believed that he would be Canada's best all-around player and he did not disappoint. The Vancouver Canucks got a steal by choosing this kid 10th overall pick. Hodgson is all character and as mature a young man as you can find.

He has played for Canada in major international competitions on three occasions. The first was the Ivan Hlinka Under-18 tournament where he was the best player. He showed more character and leadership than anyone on that team that included number one draft pick Steven Stamkos. He was also the captain for Pat Quinn at another Under-18 tournament and he was once again the best overall player for Canada. With this tournament he is now three-for-three with the Maple Leaf on his chest.

Team Canada's power play was the difference in this tournament as assistant coach Guy Boucher did a tremendous job bringing together so many skillful players on the PP. They used a unique 1-3-1 configuration, which is not used an awful lot with defenceman P.K. Subban coming in off the point. It is all predicated on Ryan Ellis being able to make smart decisions with the puck and his ability to get it down low to Tavares and Hodgson.

There were just so many options for Canada with the man-advantage and they were able to score twice on the power play on the night; the opening goal, which really energized the crowd and the third goal, which for me was the big one. At 2-0 for Canada, the game could go either way, but Hodgson's goal was the difference.

This is the same power play that Boucher used when he was an assistant coach with the Rimouski Oceanic, which of course featured Sidney Crosby. The skill level on this power play unit with Ellis, Subban, Tavares, Hodgson and Jordan Eberle is unmatched to any that I have seen in a long time with Team Canada.

If Hodgson was the best player, there is no question that the fan favourite quickly became PK Subban.

Subban has a lot of character and charisma, but he is also a terrific skater and he's got a dynamic presence on offence and for this tournament, he really buckled down and played some terrific defence.

There were a few anxious moments, where he got caught up ice a few times, however he has such great speed that he makes up for it. He was a huge factor on the Canadian power play and there were certain occasions that he sensed that the team needed a big rush down the ice. The best example was in the game with Germany in the third period where Canada was leading 2-1, there was people wondering if there was an upset brewing. Who leads the rush down ice but PK Subban. Evander Kane was able to score to secure it for Canada.The Montreal Canadiens have to be extremely excited about how this young man played.

The Canadian defence as a whole saved their best for last as the Gold medal game was their best effort as an eight-man unit. It's not very often that you say this about a defensive defenceman but I thought the best player on the ice in the Gold medal game was Tyler Myers.

He was excellent with his stick and positioning as he repeatedly broke up plays and was absolutely huge on the penalty kill as Canada took four straight penalties in the second period.

While Thomas Hickey and Colton Teubert had been up-and-down throughout the tournament, both were exceptional against Sweden. This was the first time that Canada employed an eight-man blueline and every man played their role.

He was named to the all star team.

Media All Star Team.

I agree. Hodgson outplayed Tavares for the MVP bigtime the last two games no doubt.

I think they really wanted to give the MVP to Tavares I cant really see another reason.

hodgson 3 point game (In the most important game of the tourny)
tournament leader in points
top pker
top center for crucial faceoffs

He dosent gets mvp
He dosent get top 3 canadian
he dosent get MVP of tourny.


How can a person LEAD the tourny in points not get anything?

Im sorry call me a homer if you want but this is a complete farse.

Honestly for the top 3 thing from each team it just boiled down to that clutch goal eberlre scored against Russia. I dont know if its homerism here either but I thought he deserved MVP as well. Its not a big deal though.

Meh. Don't need the awards for people to know how key he was. I don't even care, i'm sure he doesn't either. He got gold. Screw the individual rewards.

I agree. Hodgson outplayed Tavares for the MVP bigtime the last two games no doubt.

I think they really wanted to give the MVP to Tavares I cant really see another reason.

Its absolutly unreal, i honestly am in shock.

At least give the kid MVP of the game.

he was the damn reason we won.

Hodgson is amazing and was fantastic in the final! Dont get it.

Tavares living on his hype?

Canuck fans really are on this guys nuts, I guess being on the tourney all star team isn't enough for you

It does suck, but then I remember he'll be a Canuck next year. :D

Meh. Don't need the awards for people to know how key he was. I don't even care, i'm sure he doesn't either. He got gold. Screw the individual rewards.

Agree.

Cody won't feel snubbed because he doesn't have a giant ego.

He is a team player and his goal was getting Gold, not winning individual awards.

He didn't win an entirely meaningless award, oh noes! He'll be a bust now :cry:

Stop crying.

Meh. Don't need the awards for people to know how key he was. I don't even care, i'm sure he doesn't either. He got gold. Screw the individual rewards.

Exactly, its all about the front of the jersey. People are getting too worked up about this.

Hodgson was amazing throughout, he is and will be a great player. Getting an award changes nothing.

Wow...he played great. He doesn't need awards. The thing that matters to him the most is winning with his team.

I guess all you Nuck fans care about is Hodgson being the best forward and MVP and point leader, blah blah blah.

How can you honestly say something like that after his game today and his tourny.

I feel bad for the Kid for getting no recognition on tavares sports network
He won gold
He was on the tourney all star team

and you feel bad for him?

Cmon..he lead the tourny in points....thats amazing.
Each year one player..and one player only gets the spot.....2009 was Hodgsons year, and from now on, each time somone looks at previous World junior championship scoring leaders they will see his name.

3 points in the final game...gold medal...im sure he's pretty happy

I was quite shocked. Tavares was responsible for Sweden's only goal tonight and has been a non factor for both of the medal round games. Hodgson and Subban both deserved MVP more than Tavares.

He won a Gold medal and that's all that matters.

It does suck, but then I remember he'll be a Canuck next year. :D

Ya, no way he is getting cut. Congrats 'Nucks fans Hodgson really impressed

Congrats on a great performance but c'mon this is a little too much you guys know he's gonna be a great player, time to stop forcing it down the rest of our throats..

i was surprised to see Hodgson not get one of the MVPs as well.

How can you honestly say something like that after his game today and his tourny.

I feel bad for the Kid for getting no recognition on tavares sports network

Oh please so he didn't get an award.. he was being praised on TSN non stop

I have no problem with Tavares winning tournament mvp. He was our best player. Although I personally thought Esposito and Eberle were great as well the past 2 games. Hodgson was awesome too!

But ultimately, Tavares opens the ice for his linemates to get chances and I think he was the most dangerous forward. Even when he wasn't scoring he was getting fantastic opportunities. Tavares is no doubt a worthy winner of tournament MVP.

What does that have to do with anything?

It says a lot when posters from Sweden agree that Hodgson got snubbed.
It was close, do you really think he was jobbed more than Myers?

It comes down to this.

In the two most important games of the toruny
Tavares did absolutly nothing.
where Hodgson did everything.

What does that have to do with anything?

It says a lot when posters from Sweden are agreeing that Hodgson was better than Tavares.

I'm not picking a side Hodgson or Tavares (they were both spectacular) but I would take anything a Swedish fan says on the matter with a grain of salt. Some of them believe Hedman is the clear cut #1 and those few will take any chance to cut down Tavares.

It comes down to this.

In the two most important games of the toruny
Tavares did absolutly nothing.
where Hodgson did everything.
I'm a Canucks fan, and you need to get over it.

I did not agree with it but it shouldnt be that surprising. It is just like the NFL awards recently, Favre's bogus pro bowl inclusion, the bogus MVP of Peyton Manning. To knock off the "anointed" superstar you have to really deliver a total KO.

I am most happy Canada won. The rest I can live with whatever happens. Both are awesome players and either would have been worthy. The unfairness of the voting slanted to the more recognized stars may not be fair but it is life.

I'm a Canucks fan, and you need to get over it.

Yes, he does.

It's not like Hodgson's career will be ruined because he didn't win MVP.

meh who cares really? At least he will be on the Canucks next year :naughty:

It comes down to this.

In the two most important games of the toruny
Tavares did absolutly nothing.
where Hodgson did everything.

Hodgson was by far the better of the two in the last two games, but saying Tavares did nothing is ludicrous.

I was quite shocked. Tavares was responsible for Sweden's only goal tonight and has been a non factor for both of the medal round games. Hodgson and Subban both deserved MVP more than Tavares.

Well, if HolyHodgson says he should have taken it from Tavares, I can hardly expect to find a more valuably unbiased opinion to the contrary.

I dont understand how somebody care argue the fact Hodgson wasent in the MVP.

Like did you not watch the tourny?. Did you not watch the game?

Well, if HolyHodgson says he should have taken it from Tavares, I can hardly expect to find a more valuably unbiased opinion to the contrary.

Exactly.

It doesn't matter. What a great player though. You win championships with guys like Hodgson. This tourney is the 1st time I have eally seen him play more than here and there

Tavares won MVP on rep and his play in the USA game. Eberle was a top 3 for what was possibly the most important goal of the tourny. Subban was also deserving as I expected at least 1 defenceman to be top 3. Cody did all the small things that allow teams to win. But as I and many have stated before he is not the flashiest player. As a Canuck fan I am happy that he lead the tourny in scoring and was the best forward on the ice during the most important game of tournament.

My award for Cody? Unsung hero.

Cody is the last person to care about that sort of thing. He is a character kid, leader and first and foremost a great team player. Winning as a team and help play a key role in allowing Canada to keep the gold medal drive alive is all he cares about.

I dont understand how somebody care argue the fact Hodgson wasent in the MVP.

Like did you not watch the tourny?. Did you not watch the game?

Stop this.

You're making all Canucks fans look like whiners.

He won gold


3 points in the final game...gold medal...im sure he's pretty happy

He won a Gold medal and that's all that matters.

He got gold. Screw the individual rewards.
All quoted for truth. So Hodgson doesn't get a quarter from the Royal Canadian Mint or a watch...who cares? He just won a gold medal. Good God...

I dont understand how somebody care argue the fact Hodgson wasent in the MVP.

Like did you not watch the tourny?. Did you not watch the game?

Hodgson wasn't the clear cut MVP. You could make a case for a bunch of players.

But, dude, stop crying before you drown.

I understand all the Canucks fans excited about a great young player in their system, but I am getting sick of reading mrluongo's posts.

I'm a Canucks fan, and you need to get over it.
Seconded.

I'll go one further and, as a Canucks fan, say Tavares will probably have a better NHL career than Hodgson.

Canuck fans are going to overrate this guy like hell. Tavares > Hodgson, PERIOD!

I dont understand how somebody care argue the fact Hodgson wasent in the MVP.

Like did you not watch the tourny?. Did you not watch the game?


I think part of it is that Hodgson does a lot of little things really well, and he isn't as noticeable as some of the flashier players.

So don't sweat it. These kinds of personal awards are pretty meaningless in a team game, and besides, good players being overlooked happens all the time.

The key thing is that if one is a smart hockey fan -- ie., observant -- one will have noticed that Hodgson was on the ice for the key faceoffs (even though he's not the best faceoff guy on the team, he's really smart and reliable defensively), as well as on the PK and PP.

What does that show? That the coaches know who to rely on. They relied on Tavares for PP and offence, but Hodgson for everything.

(Tavares will be a star, no doubt, so I'm not slighting him at all. He doesn't have the all-around game that Hodgson has, right now, though.)

Who cares about the individual awards. We all know his value to the team, and what kind of player he is.

He played a phenomenal series. He knows it, the coaches know it, and the fans know it. What more do you really want?

Seconded.

I'll go one further and, as a Canucks fan, say Tavares will probably have a better NHL career than Hodgson.

I'd put money on that too. Hodgson may be a more rounded player, but Tavares just oozes raw skill.

Like Cody really gives a damn he doesn't get to take a stupid plate home.

I am not saying he should be MVP of the tourny.
Im saying he should be top 3 player on canada and or MVP of this game.

Theirs a difference from whining and caring about your prospect, when he does not the the recognition, in the most 2 important games of the tourny.

Keep talking like it's ultimately going to make a difference.

Canuck fans are going to overrate this guy like hell. Tavares > Hodgson, PERIOD!

Silly comment. It's hard to say, at this early stage of their careers, who is > and who is <.

Talk to me in ten years. You should be out of your parents' house by then.

I don't know Cody but I doubt he cares as long as his team won.
If anything, this might motivate him to be a better NHL'er than JT.

I understand all the Canucks fans excited about a great young player in their system, but I am getting sick of reading mrluongo's posts.

Then put him on ignore. Works for me.

Theirs a difference from whining and caring about your prospect, when he does not the the recognition, in the most 2 important games of the tourny.I don't think this will stunt his confidence. He probably doesn't care, Canadian fans don't care, Canuck fans don't care. He played well and the country knows it, he doesn't need a shiny new quarter or a watch to prove it.

I am not saying he should be MVP of the tourny.
Im saying he should be top 3 player on canada and or MVP of this game.

Theirs a difference from whining and caring about your prospect, when he does not the the recognition, in the most 2 important games of the tourny.

http://heathlander.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/dawson-crying.jpg

Saw this earlier and it seemed to be applicable. Canuck fan, by the way. People need to stop painting us all with the same brush.

Bob's got Cody's back.

There! Mckenzie called Hodgson the tournament MVP. Happy?

hodgson was the best player on the ice tonight, along with myers and pk. i was shocked too that he didnt get any credit.

There! Mckenzie called Hodgson the tournament MVP. Happy?

Yeah, just heard that.

At least bob knows

Hodsgon wore the sweater on the front and didn't play for the name on the back, that is why he was Canada's best forward. A trophy means nothing.

Who was last year MVP? I don't remember really.

All I remember is Canada won 5 in a row now.

All that matter. Who care about being Top 3 for Canada really.

So what? We won, didn't we? :shakehead

Bob Mckenzie is the man. He thought Hodgson was the true mvp.
The offensive engine to team canada.

I love it.

When your the pker and still lead the tourny in scoring, your laughing.

I think being named MVP by Mckenzie means more than any other award.

I think being named MVP by Mckenzie means more than any other award.

:thumbu:

Silly comment. It's hard to say, at this early stage of their careers, who is > and who is <.

Talk to me in ten years. You should be out of your parents' house by then.

Take all the shots on me as you want Mr.Internet Warrior. I could care less.

I stand by what I said too.

I thought that was pretty cool that Bob Mack thought he was the MVP, awesome. I was shocked to see he didn't at least get Player of the Game. It seems they gave it to PK just cause he's an energetic type of player.

I think being named MVP by Mckenzie means more than any other award.

This. I'm satisfied.

I think the MVP of the tourney should be PK after almost being robbed of a medal.

I thought that was pretty cool that Bob Mack thought he was the MVP, awesome. I was shocked to see he didn't at least get Player of the Game. It seems they gave it to PK just cause he's an energetic type of player.

He led the tournament in +/- and was Canada's best defensemen.

I think being named MVP by Mckenzie means more than any other award.

There you go.

And it's not if Hodgson was the clear-cut MVP favorite. Tavares did have more goals and only one less point than Hodgson, even though he wasn't all that effective the last two games.

Hodgson, for example, got the grunt of his points from the Kazakhstan game.

This. I'm satisfied.

Correct, i am quite pleased after i heard that.

Makes me feel much better.

Wow, seriously??? We just won gold, who the **** cares if Hodgson got an individual reward? Hodgson was great, but so were several others. And I am a Canuck fan.

Meh. Don't need the awards for people to know how key he was. I don't even care, i'm sure he doesn't either. He got gold. Screw the individual rewards.

Exactly, he got what he came for.

Hodgson, for example, got the grunt of his points from the Kazakhstan game.

First off, I don't really care whether Hodgson gets MVP or not. He's been amazing, and that's what matters.

But I do want to correct that perception that Hodgson stole all his points from the Kazak game whiel Tavares didn't. Hodgson has 16pts, to Tavares 15pts. 6 of Hodgson's pts are from the Kazak game, with Tavares getting 5 pts from that game. Both of them got loads of points from that game. The next player? Filatov with 11 pts.

If you take out that game? Dead even at 10pts each.

For all you Canucks fans out there.

One of the main reasons that Canucks fans are so excited and hyped about Hogdson is that he seems to share many of the same character and leadership qualities of another Canuck player. It's the team-first, no ego, no craving the spotlight, not always flashy, doing the little things right qualities that Hodgson personifies, and I think it's completely fitting that he didn't win any of the major awards, and I believe that he'd want it that way. Who's the Canuck player that Vancouver loves so much that Cody's compared to? I'll let you all figure that out.

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He's got a brain of a 65 year old astrophysist, Im certain he cares less than the OP.

Seriously...Hodgson was named to the Tournament All Star team, how is that nothing? Nevermind the fact that his team won Gold and I don't think he really cares all that much about individual accolades. He's a mature kid with a team-first attitude.

Let it be known, please, that mrluongo does not represent all Canucks fans...:help:

~Canucklehead~

I'm still pretty upset about it, but whatever. I'm sure he'll get plenty of recognition when he's tearing up the NHL next year. :)

Hodgson played great.

Tokarski played better tonight for the MVP
Tavares was a stud for tournament MVP
Eberle was also a stud all tournament for a MVP along with PK and Tavares.

Could you imagine if Eberle wouldnt of got ripped off a goal and 3 assists this tournament he would of been scoring champ. Im not going to go there because I dont live with Would of, should of, could of, like a few on here.

We won gold. Thats what matters.

For all you Canucks fans out there.

One of the main reasons that Canucks fans are so excited and hyped about Hogdson is that he seems to share many of the same character and leadership qualities of another Canuck player. It's the team-first, no ego, no craving the spotlight, not always flashy, doing the little things right qualities that Hodgson personifies, and I think it's completely fitting that he didn't win any of the major awards, and I believe that he'd want it that way. Who's the Canuck player that Vancouver loves so much that Cody's compared to? I'll let you all figure that out.

You said it....i'm a leafs fan...errr i'd have to say...Trevor Linden...tell me if i'm wrong

Silly comment. It's hard to say, at this early stage of their careers, who is > and who is <.

Talk to me in ten years. You should be out of your parents' house by then.

:handclap:

Honestly I doubt most canuck fans really care anyway. Everyone know's how well he played all tournament and deserved some recognition. It's just people like "Dr.NucksFan" that will lose sleep over Hodgson not getting an award. Don't worry buddy mommy will tuck you in.

Hodgson was Canada's MVP for me. Tavares is awesome on the PP, but didn't do enough in the other areas to be an MVP. At least Bob McKenzie agrees with me!!

For all you Canucks fans out there.

One of the main reasons that Canucks fans are so excited and hyped about Hogdson is that he seems to share many of the same character and leadership qualities of another Canuck player. It's the team-first, no ego, no craving the spotlight, not always flashy, doing the little things right qualities that Hodgson personifies, and I think it's completely fitting that he didn't win any of the major awards, and I believe that he'd want it that way. Who's the Canuck player that Vancouver loves so much that Cody's compared to? I'll let you all figure that out.

Artem Chubarov ???

Hodgson played great.

Tokarski played better tonight for the MVP
Tavares was a stud for tournament MVP
Eberle was also a stud all tournament for a MVP along with PK and Tavares.

Could you imagine if Eberle wouldnt of got ripped off a goal and 3 assists this tournament he would of been scoring champ. Im not going to go there because I dont live with Would of, should of, could of, like a few on here.

We won gold. Thats what matters.

Eberle what?

For all you Canucks fans out there.

One of the main reasons that Canucks fans are so excited and hyped about Hogdson is that he seems to share many of the same character and leadership qualities of another Canuck player. It's the team-first, no ego, no craving the spotlight, not always flashy, doing the little things right qualities that Hodgson personifies, and I think it's completely fitting that he didn't win any of the major awards, and I believe that he'd want it that way. Who's the Canuck player that Vancouver loves so much that Cody's compared to? I'll let you all figure that out.

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Nathan Lafayette looks so different without the beard

It does suck, but then I remember he'll be a Canuck next year. :DAh crap.

Canada won.....End of the story. Who cares...?

It comes down to this.

In the two most important games of the toruny
Tavares did absolutly nothing.
where Hodgson did everything.

Do u forget that Tavares dug the puck out of the scrum and threw it at the net for Eberle? I agree that Hodgson had a great tournament. But this is almost as bad as the Swedish whining.

He got robbed but what can you do, just enjoy the win as Canadians!

:D

Do u forget that Tavares dug the puck out of the scrum and threw it at the net for Eberle? I agree that Hudgson had a great tournament. But this is almost as bad as the Swedish whining.

I have absolutely no problem with Tavares winning the MVP. Well deserved. But this post just goes to show how quietly effective Hodgson really is. The reason Tavares was able to dig it out of the scrum? Hodgson lifting the Russian player's stick, allowing Tavares easy access to the puck. Make no mistake, it was all Tavares and Eberle from there, but that play probably doesn't happen (in time, anyway) without the work of number 18.

He's not flashy, he's not loud, but he's a winner. And that's all that matters.

Canada won.....End of the story. Who cares...?Thats the way I see it. A lot people feel the need to compliment Hodgson(and for good reason) but it's coming at the expense of Tavares and Eberle. They all played a great tournament and why can't that be enough?

He may not have been the best or flashiest player but Eberle was effective and I'm proud to have him in the Oilers system. He was part of an insanely talented powerplay that had two very high profile players. He didn't feel the need to draw attention to himself. He played a simple, effective game and as a result of buying into the system he was awarded with some pretty clutch goals where he had to get his nose dirty a little in the crease. He's a pure sniper and he adapted. I feel Eberle, Hordgson and Tavares all took eachother to that next level on the powerplay and it was really fun to watch.

Cody Hodgson will spend his whole career doing the best impersonation ever of Ron Francis !!

The biggest kick in the balls was Subban and Eberle being named as the 3 best players By team Canada....like wtf guys.

Cody Hodgson will spend his whole career doing the best impersonation ever of Ron Francis !!

As a Canucks fan I'd be perfectly fine with that. Top 5 in scoring all time here we come!

The biggest kick in the balls was Subban and Eberle being named as the 3 best players By team Canada....like wtf guys.

Whatever. Without Eberle, they're playing Slovakia today instead of Sweden. The Canadian coaching staff obviously wanted to name a Dman, and while I personally liked Myers a bit more in the tournament, Subban was a crowd favourite and was by no means undeserving.

Hodgson could've definitely gotten the MVP and no one would have objected.

He was absolutely fantastic for Team Canada, especially in this game.

Correct, i am quite pleased after i heard that.

Makes me feel much better.

so you feel better that Hodgson was named MVP by Mckenzie?...not that Canada won Gold and every kid on the team was a piece of the puzzle in helping Canada win Gold again?....I have watched this tournament every year since I can remember and this tournament is the only time I cheer for all the kids no matter who they are drafted to... or who they play for....I dont care about who wins what individual awards....I love all the kids for helping this great country win Gold again......they were all great...none of them started this tournament to win awards.....they had only one goal in mind....to win GOLD...ask anyone of them if they would rather be the player of the tournament and win silver.... or win no individual award and win gold....i'm sure the answer is a NO BRAINER.....Hodgson winning the MVP is secondary to all us Canadians cheering the whole team....I dont remember who won it 5 years ago....and I wont remember 5 years from now who won it....maybe I will now because you made such a big thing about it....you don't need to hype Hodgson...he was great for Canada.... all that matters right now....we won GOLD!....HYPE THAT TO THE REST OF THE WORLD....I KNOW I WILL

so you feel better that Hodgson was named MVP by Mckenzie?...not that Canada won Gold and every kid on the team was a piece of the puzzle in helping Canada win Gold again?....I have watched this tournament every year since I can remember and this tournament is the only time I cheer for all the kids no matter who they are drafted to... or who they play for....I dont care about who wins what individual awards....I love all the kids for helping this great country win Gold again......they were all great...none of them started this tournament to win awards.....they had only one goal in mind....to win GOLD...ask anyone of them if they would rather be the player of the tournament and win silver.... or win no individual award and win gold....i'm sure the answer is a NO BRAINER.....Hodgson winning the MVP is secondary to all us Canadians cheering the whole team....I dont remember who won it 5 years ago....and I wont remember 5 years from now who won it....maybe I will now because you made such a big thing about it....you don't need to hype Hodgson...he was great for Canada....thats all that matters right now....we won GOLD!....HYPE THAT TO THE REST OF THE WORLD....I KNOW I WILL

when did i say i wasent happy canada won gold?.

Canada winning gold and Hodgson getting appreciated was my goal.

Bob made that happen, so i am pleased.

As a Canuck fan, I would love Hodgson to get another crack at this tournament whether or not he makes the Canuck team or not. Such a great tournament and then he can get another chance at getting that MVP ;)

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You lose! Good day sir!

Anyone know what the a.t.o.i. was for the Canadian Team forwards? The media all-star selection and the vote from B.M. mean as much to me as the top 3 etc but I would like to see the stats for face-offs won, a.t.o.i., pk & pp time etc.

Anyone know what the a.t.o.i. was for the Canadian Team forwards? The media all-star selection and the vote from B.M. mean as much to me as the top 3 etc but I would like to see the stats for face-offs won, a.t.o.i., pk & pp time etc.

MacKenzie said apparently they don't keep track of TOI in the WJC but that he was pretty sure Hodgson would've been the leader from Canada's forward group.

I doubt Hodgson himself cares very much about getting that top 3 player selection or not. His contributions were plainly obvious to anyone watching the tournament, and his team won the gold.

Eberle had some clutch finishes, but Hodgson was great. But him getting snubbed is no big deal. Everyone who watched the games knows he's a good one. I wouldn't get worked up over it. I doubt Hodgson is...

http://www.checkoutmycards.com/CardImages/Cards/009/323/06F.jpg

Lafayette but less monkeyish. I hoping Hodgson grows a sweet 'stache (and maybe even throws a little wax on that bad boy to so he can twist it up at the ends) though to take his place in the annals of Canuck players with facial hair.

Lol at Canuck fans saying Hodgson outplayed Tavares last two games. Todays game, for sure, but against the russians Hodgson sucked.

If you want to base MVP on the last two games against the best competition, then Eberle should have got it. Outplayed them both in Russia and got 3 points today as well.

Lol at Canuck fans saying Hodgson outplayed Tavares last two games. Todays game, for sure, but against the russians Hodgson sucked.

If you want to base MVP on the last two games against the best competition, then Eberle should have got it. Outplayed them both in Russia and got 3 points today as well.

Eberle's last second goal doesn't happen without Hodgson. It wasn't his best game of the tournament, but I wouldn't say he sucked.

when did i say i wasent happy canada won gold?.

Canada winning gold and Hodgson getting appreciated was my goal.

Bob made that happen, so i am pleased.

He has been more than appreciated through-out this tournament by everyone...I'm surprised you haven't noticed....its the other players that I have more praise for...Esposito, Didomenico, Kane, Ellis, etc....they played a BIG roles with no praise...most people said they should not have even been there.....but they all came up big when it counts...for those who haven't noticed...it was Esposito who got the winning goal...Didomenico was great in the corners especially wasting the clock when they needed and Ellis was a force on the PP...Kane on his play made the Swedes take a stupid penalty.....which truly helped Canada when Swedes were really pressing...they were all MVP'S of the trournament....points mean ****....as for the TRUE MVP....his name is PERNEL KARL SUBBAN...BUT I AM BIASED...I have known him personally since he was 4 years old....he and my son Anthony were best friends in house league.....he has come a long way since our nickname for him ...WRONG WAY PK...he in my opinion was " A MONSTER "

Who remembers the great WJC superstar Pat Falloon?

Now enjoy the gold medal and chill out for awhile.

I paid the board/tourney officials, so he would not take home anymore hardware.:sarcasm:

I paid the board/tourney officials, so he would not take home anymore hardware.:sarcasm:

I sexed up Jennifer Hedger to lie and say Tavares tied him in points.
It was worth it.:yo:

I'm a canucks fan and seriously a lot of canucks fans are being complete homers about hodgseon. He's not in the same league as tavares, yet so many people whining about tavares. Pretty disgraceful. I'm as happy to have hodgeson as a canuck as anyone, but know how to keep things in perspective. Tavares is going to be a franchise player, not sure if cody will be that yet.

Complain about guys like eberle or subban getting more love than cody, but not about tavares. Tavares deserves every bit of hype he gets and this is just a case of canucks fans getting all insecure about cody for some reason.

I sexed up Jennifer Hedger to lie and say Tavares tied him in points.
It was worth it.:yo:

No wonder she shot me down. The next wiser commercial should star you.:)

Its absolutly unreal, i honestly am in shock.

At least give the kid MVP of the game.

he was the damn reason we won.

Yeh because he was clutch and buried the game tying goal by pulling the puck from undeneath the Russian Dman's feet and Burying it.

Oh wait! That was not him.

Hodgson was the most complete player on the team. And if Tavares had missed anymore easy tap in feeds from Eberle and Hodgson on the PP I was going to freak.

Canada's top four players thru the tournamenmt were Suban, Eberle, Hodgson, and Tavares. The thing is that the first three on the list did not disappear the last two games.

Bob mackenzie says he was the player of the tournament.
Pierre says says he was the player of the tournament.
Matt sekeres Just said on team1040(in quite energetic fashin) that he was the best.

I completely overreacted, i apologize.
Cody did one amazing job, and he and canada should be proud.

I'm not sure why we have to start taking shots at Tavares in our effort to prop up Hodgson.

Tavares played a decent game, IMO. He's very dangerous around the net, like Heatley, and seems to find ways to get shots off or get tricky passes off in very creative ways.

He was snake-bit tonight, but still very dangerous.

It's hard to tell which players can make the leap to the NHL and remain stars.

Does hodgson care? doubt it he just won ****ing gold! so you shouldn't either

I'm a canucks fan and seriously a lot of canucks fans are being complete homers about hodgseon. He's not in the same league as tavares, yet so many people whining about tavares. Pretty disgraceful. I'm as happy to have hodgeson as a canuck as anyone, but know how to keep things in perspective. Tavares is going to be a franchise player, not sure if cody will be that yet.

No homer here...am a Leafs fan...but I think he is truly going to be an awsome player for the Canucks....he has probably improved the most of any of the 08 draft...if this was his draft year....i'd say top 2-3...maybe even ahead of Tavares...who knows...but be thankful he was it was last year and not this year...he would not last until the Canucks pick...but then would PK Subban go ahead of Headman this year...too much comparing.....my head hurts<LOL>

Tavares and Hodgson were neck & neck going into the US game. After Tavares started that comeback, the MVP was his to lose, and he didn't. The chip to the net vs. the Russia's by itself was enough to cap it off. I love what Hodgson did this tourney, and sure there's an argument for MVP, but he got his fair recognition. Likewise for Eberle and Ellis. It's the rest of team Canada that I want to see get attention now (Subban has burned those 2 failed spin-o-ramas into my brain, but oh well).

While I am both a Canucks fan, and I thought Hodgson played unreal all tournament, c'mon.... Let's face it, there are several players who deserved recognition for their contribution. Personally, I thought the work Myers did killing penalties during the Canadian parade to the box was paramount to winning that game, and he should have been given the nod ahead of the offensively gifted, yet mistake prone, Subban. That being said, I think Cody was the best player on both sides of the ice today, but Tavares played well all tournament and deserved the MVP nod.

Great game, and I am sure that Cody Hodgson didn't even blink an eye, as he is too proud of the gold medal hanging around his neck and the team win for Canada..

Personally, I thought the work Myers did killing penalties during the Canadian parade to the box was paramount to winning that game, and he should have been given the nod ahead of the offensively gifted, yet mistake prone, Subban.

Yeah, he looked like a future Zdeno Chara (high-end) or a Hal Gill (low-end) with that big reach.

Yeah, he looked like a future Zdeno Chara (high-end) or a Hal Gill (low-end) with that big reach.

Blech...Hal Gill...I swear everytime he performs a pivot he's going to drop like a rock. Looks sooo awkward to me.

Myers is a much stronger skater IMO. What was great about Myers was he used his size when he needed to, but he was even better using his reach and stick to stop the rush before he even needed to move in on the body.

Blech...Hal Gill...I swear everytime he performs a pivot he's going to drop like a rock. Looks sooo awkward to me.

Myers is a much stronger skater IMO. What was great about Myers was he used his size when he needed to, but he was even better using his reach and stick to stop the rush before he even needed to move in on the body.

Hal Gill is great on the PK though.

It's one thing to look like a good skater at the WJCs, it's another in the NHL.

Time will tell as to which end of the continuum he'll end up at.

Yeah, he looked like a future Zdeno Chara (high-end) or a Hal Gill (low-end) with that big reach.

He played the body so well along the boards, and never seemed to be caught out of position. The kid has got stalwart NHL defenseman written all over him. Buffalo sure picked up a heck of a hockey player, there are not many 6'7" players who skate that well, and seem so composed. Bottom line, I think he is going to be in the league for many years.

Artem Chubarov ???

Seconded. Although Nedved has to be considered as a possibility.

I'm a Canuck fan, but I'd rather talk about players like Myers. I think he should have won player of the game. Just a dominant performance defensively. A guy that size with that kind of mobility.

Hickey was again, pretty disapointing to me. Is this his last kick at the can because I won't miss him if he doesn't return next year.

Hal Gill is great on the PK though.

It's one thing to look like a good skater at the WJCs, it's another in the NHL.

Time will tell as to which end of the continuum he'll end up at.

Hal Gill is a very underrated player, who has played over 800 games and been in the league a long time... Tyler Myers should be so lucky to have a career like Hal Gill, I am sure Buffalo will not be complaining if he turns out to shutdown dman with modest point totals.

Talk about Hodgson more!!!! More praise for Hodgson, less for Myers!!!

I was kind of surprised that Eberle/Subban got an award over Hodgson. I completely understand Tavares (who was just bad in the gold medal game), but Hodgson was the tournament leader in points, and was great in the final game.

Like everyone else has said, it doesn't matter because he got the gold anyway.

But did you see those watches? They looked pretty awesome. I'd be pissed if I was missing out on that, I mean come on!

I'm not sure why we have to start taking shots at Tavares in our effort to prop up Hodgson.


I ask why some have to take shots at Hodgson to make Tavares look better as well.

It's the you have to take one player over the other philosophy.

Sidney Crosby vs Alex Ovechkin
Martin Brodeur vs Patrick Roy
Jennifer Aniston vs Angelina Jolie

It's stupid.

Talk about Hodgson more!!!! More praise for Hodgson, less for Myers!!!

LOL.. Yeah, Cody was the man out there tonight, but if there is another unsung hero it has to be Myers... The reason I bring him up is sort of a parallel to the Tavares / Hodgson debate. Tavares is a great offensive talent (and future NHL Susperstar), no question but Cody played both sides of the ice so well, creating scoring chances, winning face offs, battling in the corners and killing penalties. Well, for my money, PK Subban got so much praise because of his obvious offensive talents and skating flash, but when it came to important defensive jobs, Tyler Myers was the stud for Canada shift in and shift out.

LOL.. Yeah, Cody was the man out there tonight, but if there is another unsung hero it has to be Myers... The reason I bring him up is sort of a parallel to the Tavares / Hodgson debate. Tavares is a great offensive talent (and future NHL Susperstar), no question but Cody played both sides of the ice so well, creating scoring chances, winning face offs, battling in the corners and killing penalties. Well, for my money, PK Subban got so much praise because of his obvious offensive talents and skating flash, but when it came to important defensive jobs, Tyler Myers was the stud for Canada shift in and shift out.

Agreed. As much as I grew to like Subban, I thought Myers was Canada's best defenceman.

Bob mackenzie says he was the player of the tournament.
Pierre says says he was the player of the tournament.
Matt sekeres Just said on team1040(in quite energetic fashin) that he was the best.

I completely overreacted, i apologize.
Cody did one amazing job, and he and canada should be proud.

:handclap::handclap:

He didn't win MVP because he and LaBarbera split the Vancouver vote so it went to Tavares.

I know that Barbs is too old and there isn't too much about him at this point that is junior, but everyone heard about this save of the year that took place in Vancouver and it was deemed so amazing, and more importantly life-changing, that some voters started throwing his name in.

It was actually going to be Co-MVP's, Hodgson and LolBarbera, but it was deemed to be much too much for you to handle along with the gold medal as they felt your head would explode.

Little did they know that just winning the gold was apparently not good enough for you as you needed to have the MVP as well so your head began to explode anyways. Thank goodness that media all-star team selection came in just in time to avoid a real tragedy.

Agreed. As much as I grew to like Subban, I thought Myers was Canada's best defenceman.

The reason I brought up Hal Gill is that, the more a game becomes a special teams game, the better it is for Hal Gill.

Myers did a great job killing tons of penalties, but I'm not sure if he'd have shown up as good in a free-flowing even-strength game.

I thought he was MVP as well, because the PK was essentially the story of the game. But over the entire tournament, I don't think I'd go that far.

I thought he was MVP as well, because the PK was essentially the story of the game. But over the entire tournament, I don't think I'd go that far.

Maybe so, but in a short tournament, I tend to lean towards the best players in the most important game. Not detracting from Subban at all though. I started the tournament out not really liking his game whatsoever, but he quickly refined it into an invaluable ingredient to Canada's success.

A great article by Bob McKenzie on TSN.ca.

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/bob_mckenzie/?id=262109

If I was given a vote for Canada's best forward in the tournament, it would go to Cody Hodgson.

Let's get the disclaimer out of the way. I love John Tavares and I have no problem with him being chosen as the top player in the tournament. I've been watching him since he was a little kid, he is a tremendous athlete and he had a phenomenal tournament, but for me the best all-around player and the tournament MVP was Hodgson.

Hodgson did everything for Canada. He scored goals including an enormous one in the Gold medal game, but it was more than that. No matter who he was playing against, be it the Americans, Russians, Swedes, he was absolutely terrific. I'm sure that he logged more minutes than any Canadian forward by the time it was all said and done. He was the offensive engine of this team, whether it be at even strength with Jordan Eberle and Zach Boychuk or making Tavares look great with perfect cross-crease passes on the power play.

Although I was blown away by his play, I was not surprised. Going into this tournament I absolutely believed that he would be Canada's best all-around player and he did not disappoint. The Vancouver Canucks got a steal by choosing this kid 10th overall pick. Hodgson is all character and as mature a young man as you can find.

He has played for Canada in major international competitions on three occasions. The first was the Ivan Hlinka Under-18 tournament where he was the best player. He showed more character and leadership than anyone on that team that included number one draft pick Steven Stamkos. He was also the captain for Pat Quinn at another Under-18 tournament and he was once again the best overall player for Canada. With this tournament he is now three-for-three with the Maple Leaf on his chest.

Team Canada's power play was the difference in this tournament as assistant coach Guy Boucher did a tremendous job bringing together so many skillful players on the PP. They used a unique 1-3-1 configuration, which is not used an awful lot with defenceman P.K. Subban coming in off the point. It is all predicated on Ryan Ellis being able to make smart decisions with the puck and his ability to get it down low to Tavares and Hodgson.

There were just so many options for Canada with the man-advantage and they were able to score twice on the power play on the night; the opening goal, which really energized the crowd and the third goal, which for me was the big one. At 2-0 for Canada, the game could go either way, but Hodgson's goal was the difference.

This is the same power play that Boucher used when he was an assistant coach with the Rimouski Oceanic, which of course featured Sidney Crosby. The skill level on this power play unit with Ellis, Subban, Tavares, Hodgson and Jordan Eberle is unmatched to any that I have seen in a long time with Team Canada.

If Hodgson was the best player, there is no question that the fan favourite quickly became PK Subban.

Subban has a lot of character and charisma, but he is also a terrific skater and he's got a dynamic presence on offence and for this tournament, he really buckled down and played some terrific defence.

There were a few anxious moments, where he got caught up ice a few times, however he has such great speed that he makes up for it. He was a huge factor on the Canadian power play and there were certain occasions that he sensed that the team needed a big rush down the ice. The best example was in the game with Germany in the third period where Canada was leading 2-1, there was people wondering if there was an upset brewing. Who leads the rush down ice but PK Subban. Evander Kane was able to score to secure it for Canada.The Montreal Canadiens have to be extremely excited about how this young man played.

The Canadian defence as a whole saved their best for last as the Gold medal game was their best effort as an eight-man unit. It's not very often that you say this about a defensive defenceman but I thought the best player on the ice in the Gold medal game was Tyler Myers.

He was excellent with his stick and positioning as he repeatedly broke up plays and was absolutely huge on the penalty kill as Canada took four straight penalties in the second period.

While Thomas Hickey and Colton Teubert had been up-and-down throughout the tournament, both were exceptional against Sweden. This was the first time that Canada employed an eight-man blueline and every man played their role.

A great article by Bob McKenzie on TSN.ca.

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/bob_mckenzie/?id=262109

"...If I was given a vote for Canada's best forward in the tournament, it would go to Cody Hodgson..."

"...The Canadian defence as a whole saved their best for last as the Gold medal game was their best effort as an eight-man unit. It's not very often that you say this about a defensive defenceman but I thought the best player on the ice in the Gold medal game was Tyler Myers.

He was excellent with his stick and positioning as he repeatedly broke up plays and was absolutely huge on the penalty kill as Canada took four straight penalties in the second period...."

WOW... It must be a cold day in hell, because that is the first time I think I have ever agreed with Bob McKenzie

mrluongo, please stop making threads...

Cody was a beast tonight. you could see his hockey sense is off the chart. On all those penalities in the second period he was always the first one on the ice winning a face off and getting the puck out. As soon as he scored his first goal i said that should give him player of the game honours right there. he played amazing tonight

My vote goes to Cody but they all brought alot to the table.They all played as a team.Imagine in 2010 when a lot of people will be complaining about the mvp of the olympics between....Heatly,Iggy,Luongo,Price,Gagne,Pronger, Burns..............its great to see so much talent on one team that it hard to sift through all the games...........

As solid and versitile as Hodgson was (pk,pp,even str.,leading scorer)Tavares and Subban,Eberle,and on and on they were all deserving they all opened space for the team,and we all would be happy to see any of those players in our lineup next year.

As for just the discussion of who would we vote for MVP,I pick Cody as he played well every game,key FO wins,key pk battles-----did any body see the one pp when he antcipated the open winger and had him tied when the cross crease pass came.He seemd to be the glue that cemented all the players..

Tavares became the threat and top goal scorer,Russians did a fantastic job of nuetrilizing him so other key players had to step up,Tavares took control of the Us game and powered two goals to get us back to one.Eberle clutch goal scoring,Subban reminded me of Jovo out their,bringing in clutch rushes and scoring.............on a team rich with talent and drive they overcame alot of adversity to bring us gold......well done all--22 guys

The individual awards really don't mean anything anyways. I'd argue Tavares would have had to completely blow it not to get the tournament MVP - it was pretty much decided before the prelims were finished. Eberle got his award based on one goal, and Subban got his based on character and crowd appeal. Not saying they didn't play great tournaments, but they were a tier below Tavares/Hodgson except for a few great moments.

Canucks fans have reason to be excited about Hodgson though. He was play for play Canada's most valuable player. Logged the most minutes, took the bulk of the defensive zone face-offs in the semi's, and gold medal game, PP/PK leader, etc. If he works on his skating it's seriously going to be difficult to find flaws in Hodgson's game.


Team Canada head coach Pat Quinn, who had Hodgson at the U18s last spring in Russia, wasn't surprised that the young centre stepped up when the stakes were highest.

"He's the best," Quinn said. "I shouldn't say that, because we had a lot of good guys tonight. But he's a leader. He's smart. He's a guy you depend on in key situations and he usually comes through.

"I had no doubt at any time about using him. I sent him out for key faceoffs. He lost a couple but he still knows where to go when he loses them.

"But I can't say enough about the young man, both as a young man and how he approaches playing this game."


http://www.faceoff.com/hockey/worldjuniors2008/story.html?id=58ad2ef0-fe78-4116-b77b-c69cfcfab033

Did Hodgson's deserve to be MVP? Absolutely. And as good as Tavares is, I would not have given Hodgson an award to remove it from Eberle and Subban but it would have been given to Hodgson instead of Tavares. Hogdson was the MVP of Team Canada for his 2-way game. Eberle was also an MVP 'cause of his clutch goals and since HE's the reason why we won the gold....without his presence in front of the net and with his incredible hands, Canada loses against Russia.

And then the famous Subban....well for whoever keep loving to discredit PK 'cause he's so awful defensively and 'cause Myers was HANDS DOWN the best d-man of Canada, strangely the same guy that most people are saying he's the hockey bible, Bob McKenzie, with his praising of Hodgson, could you read the same article and say that on top of his great offensive presence, his great transition game, and everything great he did offensively, he also played great DEFENCE???? People do have a short memory....Myers was not ALL great since the start of this tournament....he was fine but no way did he played the whole tournament like he played yesterday. Myers was MY player of the game yesterday, honestly, that's a travesty, one of the best defensive performance I've seen in a long time. But as far as the tournament is concerned, even if you would say that during this tournament Myers was superior to Subban, which I don't think he was, no way did he brought the transition game that Subban brought. And Subban wasn't as bad defensively as people loved to believe, don't take words of biased Habs fans, take the ones from McKenzie, he also deserved his MVP nomination.

So the best case scenario, would have been the same 1st All-Star Unit, Canada 3 best players in Hodgson, Subban, Eberle, and player of the game for the gold medal to Myers.

But to me, again, the best Canada player, the MVP of this tournament is a no-brainer here.....Cody Hodgson. Good luck with that Western Conference....;)

Did Hodgson's deserve to be MVP? Absolutely. And as good as Tavares is, I would not have given Hodgson an award to remove it from Eberle and Subban but it would have been given to Hodgson instead of Tavares. Hogdson was the MVP of Team Canada for his 2-way game. Eberle was also an MVP 'cause of his clutch goals and since HE's the reason why we won the gold....without his presence in front of the net and with his incredible hands, Canada loses against Russia.

And then the famous Subban....well for whoever keep loving to discredit PK 'cause he's so awful defensively and 'cause Myers was HANDS DOWN the best d-man of Canada, strangely the same guy that most people are saying he's the hockey bible, Bob McKenzie, with his praising of Hodgson, could you read the same article and say that on top of his great offensive presence, his great transition game, and everything great he did offensively, he also played great DEFENCE???? People do have a short memory....Myers was not ALL great since the start of this tournament....he was fine but no way did he played the whole tournament like he played yesterday. Myers was MY player of the game yesterday, honestly, that's a travesty, one of the best defensive performance I've seen in a long time. But as far as the tournament is concerned, even if you would say that during this tournament Myers was superior to Subban, which I don't think he was, no way did he brought the transition game that Subban brought. And Subban wasn't as bad defensively as people loved to believe, don't take words of biased Habs fans, take the ones from McKenzie, he also deserved his MVP nomination.

So the best case scenario, would have been the same 1st All-Star Unit, Canada 3 best players in Hodgson, Subban, Eberle, and player of the game for the gold medal to Myers.

But to me, again, the best Canada player, the MVP of this tournament is a no-brainer here.....Cody Hodgson. Good luck with that Western Conference....;)

Subban's all around play was a revelation to me, just look at his plus/minus for proof of his effectiveness at both ends of the ice. He was our best d-man in the tourney, Myers was best last night (Aulie was also good last night). Hodgson was our most important forward, used in very situation. Tavares was awesome on the PP, pretty quiet apart from that. Eberle was good in the clutch, i thought Cormier and Didicomio (sp?) nd Kane got better and better as the games went by. Della Rovere was too undisciplined for me, cut back the edginess by 5% and he'd be fabulous! Ennis, Boychuk, Benn, esposito and Sonne were good at times.

I firmly believe that Hodgson should have been MVP and he will be a better pro than Tavares. JT doesn't skate unless he has the puck on his stick and is only good in 1 zone.

Subban's all around play was a revelation to me, just look at his plus/minus for proof of his effectiveness at both ends of the ice. He was our best d-man in the tourney, Myers was best last night (Aulie was also good last night). Hodgson was our most important forward, used in very situation. Tavares was awesome on the PP, pretty quiet apart from that. Eberle was good in the clutch, i thought Cormier and Didicomio (sp?) nd Kane got better and better as the games went by. Della Rovere was too undisciplined for me, cut back the edginess by 5% and he'd be fabulous! Ennis, Boychuk, Benn, esposito and Sonne were good at times.

I disagree about Subban. He's brutal defensively, don't let the +/- fool you. Subban will make a nice PP specialist in the NHL though.

I firmly believe that Hodgson should have been MVP and he will be a better pro than Tavares. JT doesn't skate unless he has the puck on his stick and is only good in 1 zone.

I'll disagree a little with that. He's improved by miles over what he was before. He has rounded out his game to back check more. I remember more than a few examples of some takeaways and him hustling to backcheck. Granted, he doesn't always make the right decisions defensively, but the effort was there and he is showing that he is willing to develop his game further. I see the effort is there IMO.

I disagree about Subban. He's brutal defensively, don't let the +/- fool you. Subban will make a nice PP specialist in the NHL though.

Okay I won't let his +/- fool me, but can I let Quinn naming him as Canada's top defenseman fool me? Not bad for a PP specialist.

Okay I won't let his +/- fool me, but can I let Quinn naming him as Canada's top defenseman fool me? Not bad for a PP specialist.

Coaches go by +/- and pts. more often than not. Subban is a turnover waiting to happen and if he tries that cute **** in the NHL, he's gonna get clocked.

Hodgson was the key player, but like some NHL'ers like Mark Savard, Doan, D. Roy, Malkin, Lidstrom in the Red Wings late 90s dynasty, they dont get the hype like some others that score goals and are flashy players.

In the end, the hype machine over Tavares makes sense since he is undrafted. Hodgson is already so its not a sexy story to wonder what team will pick him aka Leafs media day dreaming.

I disagree about Subban. He's brutal defensively, don't let the +/- fool you. Subban will make a nice PP specialist in the NHL though.The plus minus does mean something, and Subban wasn't that bad defensively, at least not in this tourney....

It comes down to this.

In the two most important games of the toruny
Tavares did absolutly nothing.
where Hodgson did everything.

Tavares looked pretty good when we were down 3 - 0 on New Years...

Hodgson doesn't get the hype on TSN, but he sure gets it on here. I would rather have him than Tavares, but being shocked and acting like Tavares did nothing for us is ridiculous.

Hodgson didn't win the major award but will be a GREAT NHLer. Anyone who understands hockey knows what he did in this tournament and how good he really was. If he's as good as we all think he is he won't care about these made-up awards either.

There were a lot of players besides Hodgson that you could argue should have been named to the top three. He led the tournament in scoring which is an accomplishment based on objective numbers. As a poster said earlier, when someone looks back at this years WJC they are going to look at who the leading scorer was, not who was selected as a top three player.

Coaches go by +/- and pts. more often than not. Subban is a turnover waiting to happen and if he tries that cute **** in the NHL, he's gonna get clocked.

And I guess that journalists also go with +/- 'cause they are the ones who named the 1st All-Star team. So most people in here thinks he's not that bad defensively anymore, Quinn doesn't believe he's that bad defensively 'cause he uses him in tough situations and name him his best d-man of the team, journalists don't find he's that bad defensively 'cause he's amongst the all-star team, his coach in Belleville says that he made some tremendous improvements defensively and uses him in all situations and he's +27 or something like that in Belleville......but since you're saying he's terrible....I guess he is.

With gold or failure expectations, every game in elimination is equally important for Canada.

As a Canucks fan I really don't like all this hype. Yes Hodgson had a great tournament, but it is not like he did it by himself. Hodgson might have been part of Canada's first PP, but it is not like he was the QB or trigger man. His PK was good, especially against Sweden, but he did lose quite a few key faceoffs and Myers was equally as big of a part of the PK. People are starting to compare him to Filatov, Stamkos, Tavares, etc, but he is not the same kind of dynamic explosive forward they are. Hodgson has a good shot and pass, but it his smarts and not his skills that let him put up tournament leading numbers. I hate to say this, but it does look like he will be a similar player to Linden. Good faceoff man, can play in any situation, mature beyond his age and comes up big in big games. He might not be the scoring leader of his team, but his smarts and maturity make him captain material.

There are maybe 3 or 4 Canuck fans around here with a Hodgson complex. But I suppose it's easier just to lump them all in under one convenient umbrella, huh?

Bomb them all!

There are maybe 3 or 4 Canuck fans around here with a Hodgson complex. But I suppose it's easier just to lump them all in under one convenient umbrella, huh?

Totally agree. Every team has their hardcore homers. Vancouver is no exception. I will say that in my relatively short time on these boards I have found there to be a real hate for anything Vancouver though. Far more than any other team. Yes, even more than Toronto.

Starting with the off season where the Canucks were bashed as a lottery team forcing Canuck fans to speak up. Any unbiased hockey fan knew the team was a good team. Not saying a great team... but a good one. The Sedin's constantly bashed as 2nd liners at best. Despite putting up 1st line numbers for several years now. Next was the bashing received for the Gillis hiring. Then we were bashed all to hell for the Sundin offer. HFF raked over the coals and laughed at. Yet again Canuck fans were right. Or at least Sundin himself agreed and signed with the Canucks. Laughed at for the Wellwood signing... Again it worked out. Then we give up a useless 7th for a backup goalie for our backup goalie and were again bashed and laughed at. Oddly enough that trade seems to have been a steal for us. Now the Hodgson thing.

It is getting really really tiresome dealing with these homer fan bases outside of Vancouver. The ones that probably never see this team play unless it is against their own teams. A big perk of living on the west coast is we get to see all the games during the day/evening. You cannot convince me that east coasters are staying up till 2 or 3 in the morning to watch the Canucks. They are simply repeating the crap that other clueless posters are saying.

Vancouver fans come across the way we do because we constantly receive zero respect. Everything we do is mocked and laughed at. So I am not suprised people think we are over hyping our players. Because no one else in the league gives us any respect. All I have seen is Vancouver fans actually seem to know something about hockey. They seem to be far more unbiased than most other fan bases. But they will cling to the 3 or 4 hardcore Canuck homers and pretend our whole fanbase is like that.

I take comfort in the fact that they have been wrong at every turn. Stay classy Vancouver. You are true hockey fans.

PS - To those fans that are capable of unbiased hockey discussion I applaud you. The rest of you need to grow the F up and stop making yourselves look like blind homers. Vancouver fans included.

PS - To those fans that are capable of unbiased hockey discussion I applaud you. The rest of you need to grow the F up and stop making yourselves look like blind homers. Vancouver fans included.

So you are saying just because I am from Vancouver that doesn't mean the Canucks are the greatest team ever? I don't understand.:help:

There are maybe 3 or 4 Canuck fans around here with a Hodgson complex. But I suppose it's easier just to lump them all in under one convenient umbrella, huh?
Yeah that's why I said "some" right.

You know i'm right, this thread has almost reached 200 replies.

Funny, I usually say the same thing about Edmonton
You could make a similar comparison to describe Edmonton but considering no one really knows about Edmonton outside of Canada, the comparison wouldn't be very nice.

I think being named MVP by Mckenzie means more than any other award.

Was going to wait until I was finished reading the entire tread before posting .

BuT!

His words do carry weight for me also. He knows the kids .

As for the other fans,pls take this thread with a grain of salt because it has been 20years since we have had a prospect like this.JT will be a goal scorer and to be honest as the tourney went along the more he grew on me becoming a team guy.

I won't lie though I was a little shocked that he received nothing.

but reguardless ---> 5 <---

The plus minus does mean something, and Subban wasn't that bad defensively, at least not in this tourney....

plus minus means something only when you know the players ice time, approximatly how he was used, who he was matched up against, HOW much time he spent on the PK and how much on the PP and who else he played with...plus the team he played on. If you dont know these things then the plus minus means absolutely nothing.

A player who is really bad defensively but has a offensive touch will generally not be matched up against the top lines that score the majority of the goals and can exploit his weakness, and he will not be on the PK where a large percentage of goals against are scored(no matter how great defensively you are), not to mention that the player will likely spend allot of time on the PP where a good chuck of the goals for are scored and there are almost no goals against. How do you think this will effect a players plus minus?

Yeah that's why I said "some" right.

You know i'm right, this thread has almost reached 200 replies.

Pretty much, from what I can see there are only 3-4 who actually think Hodgson isn't the next coming of god.

This thread has pretty much been a 7 page orgy of Canuck fans praising the guy.

Pretty much, from what I can see there are only 3-4 who actually think Hodgson isn't the next coming of god.

This thread has pretty much been a 7 page orgy of Canuck fans praising the guy.

Considering the title of the thread does it suprise you? He did lead the gold winning team in points along with being on the top PK unit. Was the best forward in the gold medal winning game. Playing mainly against the other teams top player. If Hodgson was a Leaf prospect this would be a 20 page Toronto orgy thread.

You saw the title.... You decided to come and complain anyway. Are you really that thick?

Considering the title of the thread does it suprise you? He did lead the gold winning team in points along with being on the top PK unit. Was the best forward in the gold medal winning game. Playing mainly against the other teams top player. If Hodgson was a Leaf prospect this would be a 20 page Toronto orgy thread.

You saw the title.... You decided to come and complain anyway. Are you really that thick?

Where was I complaining, I was just stating what it is..

plus minus means something only when you know the players ice time, approximatly how he was used, who he was matched up against, HOW much time he spent on the PK and how much on the PP and who else he played with...plus the team he played on. If you dont know these things then the plus minus means absolutely nothing.

A player who is really bad defensively but has a offensive touch will generally not be matched up against the top lines that score the majority of the goals and can exploit his weakness, and he will not be on the PK where a large percentage of goals against are scored(no matter how great defensively you are), not to mention that the player will likely spend allot of time on the PP where a good chuck of the goals for are scored and there are almost no goals against. How do you think this will effect a players plus minus?
PP and PK goals don't count towards your plus/minus......:shakehead
I watched every game and Subban played against all lines, once again, a guy can get lucky or burnt in a specific situation regarding a goal effecting his plus/minus, but over a whole tourney, plus/minus does mean something........

I was not surprised that Hodgson did not get MVP of the tournament, although if he got it, he would have been deserving.

So, too were Tavares and Subban.

The thing that surprised me more was that Quinn did not list Hodgson as one of his top three players.

I guess when you have so many talented players on your team that a player who played as well as Hodgson did can get overlooked when it comes time for accolades says a lot about the talent our country is producing.

In the end, individual awards are just icing on the cake. It's the gold medal that counts.

I was not surprised that Hodgson did not get MVP of the tournament, although if he got it, he would have been deserving.

So, too were Tavares and Subban.

The thing that surprised me more was that Quinn did not list Hodgson as one of his top three players.

I guess when you have so many talented players on your team that a player who played as well as Hodgson did can get overlooked when it comes time for accolades says a lot about the talent our country is producing.

In the end, individual awards are just icing on the cake. It's the gold medal that counts.

I think the award Hodgson is going to be winning in his future is the Conn Smyth...

It would be nice to see him awarded something but I'm not complaining. I've got high hopes for this kid next year:)

I think the award Hodgson is going to be winning in his future is the Conn Smyth...

Why would the canucks trade hodgson?

I'd just like to point out that if it wasn't for Tavares, USA would have beat us

Sure Hodgson led the tourney in points, that's fine and dandy but Tavares played a lot better throughout the tournament and was pure domination in many games

Keep in mind that the Swedes and the Russians goal was to shutdown Tavares, not the fantastic and amazing superstar Cody Hodgson

Typical Canucks post, it just isn't enough is it? :shakehead

Leads the tourney in points, is named onto the all-star team and now you guys have to whine like little bi***es? I think he should've been 3rd, behind Eberle and Tavares, but not ahead of Tavy

Why would the canucks trade hodgson?

I'm a die hard Canucks fan, but that's pretty hilarious.