Top three players in the tournament

1 - John Tavares
2 - Jacob Markstrom
3 - Cody Hodgson

Post your top 3 players in this tourny.

~Special Nominee too~
Tomas Tatar
Jaroslav Janus
PK SUBBAN
Karlsson
Filatov

Forward: Tavares

Defenceman: Karlsson

Goalie: Markstrom

If I had to choose a tournament all-star team I'd go:

Filatov - Tavares - Hodgson

Karlsson - Subban

Janus

If I had to choose a tournament all-star team I'd go:

Filatov - Tavares - Hodgson

Karlsson - Subban

Janus

I like the way that looks =)

tavares
markstrom*(depends on mondays game. if janus wins bronze with 40 plus saves again and if markstrom is lit up against canada.)
Schroeder

I think Tatar deserves a spot on this list. Slovakia has been outclassed this entire tournament and Tatar and Janus are the two big reasons why they get to play for a medal.

Tatar is actually tied with Filatov in scoring, both with 6 goals and 3 assists.

I think Tatar deserves a spot on this list. Slovakia has been outclassed this entire tournament and Tatar and Janus are the two big reasons why they get to play for a medal.

Tatar is actually tied with Filatov in scoring, both with 6 goals and 3 assists.

thats why i put them in the special category ;)

Tavares
Janus
Markstrom

thats why i put them in the special category ;)

No Eberle in there??? 5 G 5 A 10 pts is nothing to sneeze at.

JT
Markstrom
Hodsgon

HM:
Subban
Filatov
Karlsson
Grachev
Janus
Eberle

Toharski :sarcasm:

JT
Markstrom
Eberle

Forward: Tavares
Defenceman: Erik Karlsson
Goalie: Markstrom

TOP-3 WJC PERFOMANCES
3. Jordan Eberle
2. John Tavares
1. Jacob Markstrom

Honourable Mentions

SLOVAKIA
F - Tomas Tatar
G - Jaroslav Janus

USA
F - Jordan Schroeder
D - Ian Cole

Sweden
F - Michael Backlund
D - Erik Karlsson

Russia
F - Nikita Filatov
F - Dmitri Klopov
G - Vadim Zhelobnyuk

Latvia
F - Roberts Bukarts

Kazakhstan
N/A

Germany
F - Daniel Weiss
F - Jerome Flaake

Finland
F - Tomi Sallinen
G - Juha Metsola

Czech Republic
F - Jan Kana
F - Ondrej Roman

Canada
F - Cody Hodgson
F - Zach Boychuk
D - PK Subban
D - Ryan Ellis
G - Chet Pickard

MSP
Tavares
Goncharov

Eberle? One game is enough?

1. Tedenby
2. Backlund
3. Markström

Unbiased of course.

msp for the swedish forwards

[U]
[B]Canada
F - Cody Hodgson
F - Zach Boychuk
D - PK Subban
D - Ryan Ellis
G - Chet Pickard
I don't mind your list, apart from Pickard? He played 2 easy teams, faced very few shots, surely not worth an HM????

I'd put Hodgson slightly ahead of Tavares just for all the other things he does on the ice.

I'll be curious to see how JT does against Sweden.

Filatov - Tavares - Tatar

Karlsson - Goncharov

Janus

What is also impressive about Tatar's stats is that Slovakia did not play either Kazakhstan or Germany (the two relegated teams). With the exception of a goal against Latvia, those points are against the best teams in the tournament.

Filatov - Tavares - Tatar

Karlsson - Goncharov

Janus

Top Forwards:
Tavares
Hodgson
Schroeder
Tatar

TOP D:

Karlsson
Shattenkirk

TOP G:
Janus

Tavares, Markström and Karlsson.

Filatov - Tavares - Tatar

Karlsson - Goncharov

Janus

I like it, I would throw MSP on the top line. I think he has been the best player this tournament.

Filatov - Tavares - Tatar

Karlsson - Goncharov

Janus

Sorry buddy, but that's seriously off IMO.;)

Shattenkirk was one of the few Americans who was playing at the top of their game thorughout the tournament.

1g 8a in 5 games

Shattenkirk was one of the few Americans who was playing at the top of their game thorughout the tournament.

1g 8a in 5 games

I say this with obvious bias, but as far as defencemen go I'd say Karlsson's been more impressive.

Same amount of points as Shattenkirk on a lower scoring team, better +/-, no PIM versus 4 for Shattenkirk, and he's still only 18 while KS is nearly 20.

1. John Tavares
2. Cody Hodgson
3. Jaroslav Janus

Honorable Mentions:
-PK Subban
-Jordan Schroeder
-Nikita Filatov
-Maxim Goncharov
-Jacob Markstrom
-Jordan Eberle
-Erik Karlsson

No Eberle in there??? 5 G 5 A 10 pts is nothing to sneeze at.

Eberle definitely deserves a lot of consideration. There is a guy who produced against a very formidable Russian team that managed to stifle several key Canadian players for the whole game.

ebrele tavares filatov
wilson msp schroeder

karlsson Shatenkirk
Subban Goncharov

Markstrom
Janus

MSP! He's just great. I'm love to see him play hockey.

Janus, this guy is a wall!

Markström, need I say more?

1. John Tavares - Points speak for themselves. He's there when he needs to be, strong on the puck, does the small things right, does the big things right. Great passes, great moves, great goals. Cemented number one this tournament, in my opinion. Credit must be given to the rest of his linemates, but without Tavares, it's not the same.

2. Nikita Filatov - Very, very good. Strong offensive abilities, and really seemed to lead the team. When he needed to turn on the offence he did, and the rest of team followed. He helped and was helped by Grachev and Andropov, as well, and was the reason that that line did so well. His most noticeable attribute is unquestionably his speed, which is simply staggering.

3. Jakob Markstrom - Again, the stats speak for themselves. Number one in save percentage for a reason. Sure, he has a great defence, but he's made the saves he's needed to make. No glory, no highlight reel, just completely dependable textbook goaltending. Shutout Russia, which has one of the most potent and skilled offenses in the tournament.

Honourable mentions:
Matthias Tedenby - Travels at mach 4. Has great linemates from HV71 in David Ullstrom and Andre Petersson. That line has been arguably the best for the Swedes, and they seem to exhibit great chemistry, but the main offence has come from Tedenby. He's set up Petersson, he's set up Ullstrom, and he's scored himself. Great skill and work ethic (in this tournament).

Slovakia - Really, the way they play is all as one player. Their team defence is remarkable, the way they can shutdown offence when it develops. And the ones that do get through have to face a goalie who demonstrated great ability and athleticism in this tournament (Jaroslav Janus!!!). It seemed as though every player bought into the system, used their individual abilities to their best and worked as hard as humanly possible. Tomas Tatar was strong on the puck, Adam Bezak showed good drive, Richard Panik is very skilled, and the whole offence capitalized on the chances, allowing the defence to do what they do best: shut down the best junior teams in hockey.

Also:
Evgeni Grachev - Very strong on the puck. He really impressed me with his speed. Overall, a great player on a great line, and I think the New York Rangers got a steal.
Colin Wilson - The best on his line in my opinion. Yes, it was close, and yes, Schroeder and van Riemsdyk have been good, but when the USA needed a body in the zone, he was the one doing it.
PK Subban - Tournament-leading +12 shows his defensive ability and great offence. Orr-like rushing abilities.
Magnus Svensson-Paajarvi - Very fast. Really upped his draft stock, and to me, he just seemed overall good. Smart, fast, good plays, and didn't back down. He seriously impressed me, and deserved player of the game in the game against Latvia.
Cody Hodgson - Got a long look in Vancouver for a reason. Never backs down, consistently talented.
Viktor Hedman - Not spectacular, but when you notice him, it's because he's doing something very pro-like. And when you don't notice him, he's doing all the little things right. Very strong and deceptively fast with great vision. Isn't that all a defenceman needs?
Teemu Hartikainen - Stats show how he led the offence of a weak Finnish team
Kevin Shattenkirk - One of the few bright spots on a weeping American defence.
Ondrej Roman - Led the Czech offence. Very smart with the puck. Had great chemistry with Jan Kana. The two seemed to feed of each other, and when Thomas Vincour is your other linemate, you can really get things cooking.
Erik Karlsson - Great PP quaterback. Like, really great PP quarterback. He makes the Swedish offence tick. Makes dangerous plays, however, but with those points, your PP can't go wrong.
Ryan Ellis - Like Karlsson, only to a slightly lesser extent. Slightly less risky and vocal, however.
Mikael Backlund - Seems unstoppable when he turns on the jets.
Dmitri Klopov, Nikita Kylukin, Evgeni Dadonov - Has been a very fast, very skilled offensive machine for the Russians. Haven't made many mistakes in the offensive zone, and capitalize on opportunites.
Jamie Benn, Jordan Eberle, Tyler Ennis - Canada's offence has been really good.

Really, the best offensive ability demonstrated in this tournament has been by entire lines. You could give this award to Sweden's top 3 lines, Canada's top 2 lines, USA's top line, Slovakia's top line or Russia's top 2 lines. But in each case, the lines have been driven to elite status by one player, and in my opinion, it's those players that deserve the "Player of the Tournament" accolades.

EDIT: I changed my mind. Filatov was better.

I don't mind your list, apart from Pickard? He played 2 easy teams, faced very few shots, surely not worth an HM????
They were easy teams.. but there wasn't much more he could of done in the tournament. He obviously can't be an MVP due to lack of games, but what more could of he have done?

I also forgot to mention Shattenkirk for the US, he was pretty good.

Hodgson, Tavares, 2 and 1, 1 and 2, say it in any way or form, but those two have been lights out the top 2 forwards in this tournament followed with a close tie between Filatov and Schroder.

1) John Tavares
2) Jacob Markstrom
3) Cody Hodgson

Hodgson-Tavares-Tatar
Karlsson-Subban
Markström

Tavares
Markstrom
Karlsson

Hodgson is so overrated.

Tavares
Markstrom
Karlsson

Hodgson is so overrated.

You better run and hide...the cavalry will be here soon. ;)

Hodgson
Tavares
Tatar

Karlsson
Subban

Markstrom

Tavares
Markstrom
Karlsson

Hodgson is so overrated.

Yea man all he does is mooch off of Eberle!!!!!!!!

All jokes aside, I think you're severely wrong. He has 13 points and plays 1st line PP and PK for a reason.

Hodgson - Tavares - Pääjärvi-Svensson

Karlsson - Subban

Markström

3. Jakob Markstrom - Again, the stats speak for themselves. Number one in save percentage for a reason. Sure, he has a great defence, but he's made the saves he's needed to make. No glory, no highlight reel, just completely dependable textbook goaltending. Shutout Russia, which has one of the most potent and skilled offenses in the tournament.


Did you watch that Sweden vs Russia game? If not. Dont make assumptions. Russias offense that game was terrible. All the good chances they either missed or mishandled the pass. They just couldnt finish that game. The hockey gods did not like them that game. Most of their shots came from the perimeter which I expect Markstrom to be able to handle. And he wasnt even screened.

Markstrom has been good especially compared to the other goalies but Janus has been the best so far. He has had the best goaltending performance of the WJC. Thats what it comes down too. Who has been the best goalie. Markstrom hasnt had anyone say omg Markstrom is unbelievable. He has never been voted player of the game for Sweden. Janus has.

Janus best goaltending performance.

Best forward: Tavares.. wasnt as strong against russia but even at the end the backhand play he just knows that if you put the puck on the net or near the net things can happen. And he just shot that puck towards the net with 6 seconds to go because its better there then it is at the blue line. And it paid off. Those are instincts.. How many times have you seen players at the end of the game try to shoot the puck along the boards behind the net. Which is what they do all game (dump and chase). With 10 seconds to go he didnt go with his muscle memory but instead get the puck on net.

Defense: I think its between Shattenkirk, Karlsson, and Goncharov. Maybe PK Subban but the first 3 are the best so far.

Hodgson - Tavares - Pääjärvi-Svensson

Karlsson - Subban

Markström


I agree that he's looked very good for a 17 year old, but he's only has 2 goals in 5 games. If you're going to pick a Swede, I would go with Michael Backlund who only has 1 point more but has scored 5 goals in 5 games and has looked dominant at times.

I still think that Tatar deserves it more though... a 17 year ond that has scored 6 goals 3 assists in 6 games on a very ordinary Slovakian team who's second leading scorer (Kytnar) only had 6 points (all assists).

Did you watch that Sweden vs Russia game? If not. Dont make assumptions. Russias offense that game was terrible. All the good chances they either missed or mishandled the pass. They just couldnt finish that game. The hockey gods did not like them that game. Most of their shots came from the perimeter which I expect Markstrom to be able to handle. And he wasnt even screened.

Markstrom has been good especially compared to the other goalies but Janus has been the best so far. He has had the best goaltending performance of the WJC. Thats what it comes down too. Who has been the best goalie. Markstrom hasnt had anyone say omg Markstrom is unbelievable. He has never been voted player of the game for Sweden. Janus has.


Yes, I was at the game. Granted the offense was quite poor in that game, but that's no reflection on Markstrom. He made 35 saves that game to get the shutout. It's not like he wasn't working.

Janus plays on Slovakia. Slovakia plays like such a team that really, aside from Tatar, the only player that stands out is Janus. Yes, he's been great, and yes, I cheered Slovakia all through their games against Russia, the US and Sweden. But getting a bajillion shots thrown at you and having a two or three games where you stop quite a few of those does not a "goalie of the tournament" make.

The only reasons Markstrom hasn't gotten player of the game are A) He's on a great team where other players will get player of the game (unlike Slovakia), and B) As I said, he hasn't been highlight reel, just very, very solid, in a quiet, dependable sort of way.

Markstrom's save percentage is like 97% or something along those lines. 1 goal let in against Slovakia in preliminaries, 0 against Russia, 2 against Finland. It's pretty hard to against those stats.

Eberle? One game is enough?



I didn't know he scored 10 points in that game, wow!

I didn't know he scored 10 points in that game, wow!

If you can't see that Eberle is majorly benefitting from playing on a line with Hodgson you're blind.

I can't imagine how many more primary assists Hodgson would have if Eberle was paying more attention.

If you can't see that Eberle is majorly benefitting from playing on a line with Hodgson you're blind.

I can't imagine how many more primary assists Hodgson would have if Eberle was paying more attention.

Hahahha. Hilarious. The 42 goals in the WHL without Hodgson as a 17 year old must of been a fluke.

All I've seen is this tournament and Eberle has been pretty shaky.

Nobody would have put him in a top-10 list of players from this tournament until that goal.

All I've seen is this tournament and Eberle has been pretty shaky.

Nobody would have put him in a top-10 list of players from this tournament until that goal.

Hes been Canada's top 3 players.

He was clutch in scoring 2 goals agaisnst the Russians last year in the U18's too. Must be all just a fluke.

When did I say it was a fluke?

I'll take your word for it that Eberle is a beast in the WHL.

All I'm saying is that in this tournament he's benefitting from playing with Hodgson.

When did I say it was a fluke?

I'll take your word for it that Eberle is a beast in the WHL.

All I'm saying is that in this tournament he's benefitting from playing with Hodgson.

Im pretty sure its the other way around myself.

Well then I'm not sure what tournament you've been watching.

Eberle? One game is enough?

1. Tedenby
2. Backlund
3. Markström

Unbiased of course.

:laugh:

1) Hickey
2) Esposito
3) Tokarski

:sarcasm:

Tavares
Markstrom
Karlsson

Hodgson is so overrated.

A failed attempt to go against the gain and seem intelligent ?

I'd have to say Janus gives battle to the top. He's pretty much Markstrom's only challenge for goalie of the tournament.

I thought Hodgson was actually average at best defensivly this tourney. His offensive game is there but he seems to be making a few too many mistakes in the neutral zone.

Tavares
Markstrom
Karlsson

Hodgson is so overrated.


What game are you watching. Hodgson has incredible vision, makes very few mistakes and away from the puck, game in, game out is outstanding!

When did I say it was a fluke?

I'll take your word for it that Eberle is a beast in the WHL.

All I'm saying is that in this tournament he's benefitting from playing with Hodgson.

And Hodgson is benefiting from playing with Eberle.

It goes both ways. Hell, who knows how good Hodgson would look if he wasn't playing with Eberle!

I agree that he's looked very good for a 17 year old, but he's only has 2 goals in 5 games. If you're going to pick a Swede, I would go with Michael Backlund who only has 1 point more but has scored 5 goals in 5 games and has looked dominant at times.

I still think that Tatar deserves it more though... a 17 year ond that has scored 6 goals 3 assists in 6 games on a very ordinary Slovakian team who's second leading scorer (Kytnar) only had 6 points (all assists).

You are ONLY looking at points. Backlund sure stepped up his game a bit but he isnt even top3 Forward for Sweden this tournament.
I do think MSP has had the best performance among swedish forwards so far.

I thought Hodgson was actually average at best defensivly this tourney. His offensive game is there but he seems to be making a few too many mistakes in the neutral zone.

To be fair, the whole team has been miserable defensively.

Eberle did not impress me until the game against the Russians. No way is he top 3.

Tavares, Janus, and someone from Sweden. I'll wait until after the gold medal game to decide who specifically.

If you can't see that Eberle is majorly benefitting from playing on a line with Hodgson you're blind.

I can't imagine how many more primary assists Hodgson would have if Eberle was paying more attention.

Are you kidding? Hodgson has most of his points on the PP and was terrible against Russia. Eberle carried his ass that game.

Every single goal Hodgson scored was a trash goal.

Vancouver homers are awsome.

You are ONLY looking at points. Backlund sure stepped up his game a bit but he isnt even top3 Forward for Sweden this tournament.
I do think MSP has had the best performance among swedish forwards so far.

Fair enough, I only saw their game against Russia and Against Slovakia and liked what I saw from Backlund, but I will take your word for it. But do you honestly think that MSP has been better then Tavares, Hodgson, Eberle, Filatov, Schroeder, Wilson, Van Riemsdyk or Tatar??

Are you kidding? Hodgson has most of his points on the PP and was terrible against Russia. Eberle carried his ass that game.

If Hodgson doesn't lift the stick of the Russian defender and dig the puck out, Eberle doesn't score that goal.

How would you guys rate Alex Pietrangelo he is the highest drafted player(08) playing at this years tournament?Bust?Average?

Anyways.

Tavares
Hodge
Markstrom

are my Top 3.

But. Hodge would not even have near the amount of points he has if he was not playing with Tavares on the PP.

Cannot put Eberle in top 3 and he only dominated one game.

Hodge played well in all (Well except against Russia)

This discussion should be after the final game (Which if not for Eberle Twice (5 seconds left and Shootout) we would not even see.

If Hodgson doesn't lift the stick of the Russian defender and dig the puck out, Eberle doesn't score that goal.

If Ellis didnt keep the puck in, Eberle doesnt score that goal. If Tavares didnt backhand the puck to the net Eberle doesnt score that goal. If Eberle didnt have as sick of hands as he does he doesnt score that goal.

Alot more to that goal than Hodgson. To say that shows how little you know. Sorry if that was rude.

If Hodgson doesn't lift the stick of the Russian defender and dig the puck out, Eberle doesn't score that goal.


Oh really. Maybe you can explain where his assist is.

59.55 5 - 5 EQ Canada 14. EBERLE, Jordan
(19. TAVARES, John)

Tavares
Karlsson
Janus

If Hodgson doesn't lift the stick of the Russian defender and dig the puck out, Eberle doesn't score that goal.So I guess Hodgson scored the goal.

People need to get it together. Hodgson would have more assists if Eberle was "paying more attention"? He's been put in a playmaking role. They have him set up either behind or on the right side of the net feeding Hodgson in the slot or trying to give Tavares those cross ice passes. Eberle has rarely found himself in the slot and that seems to be all part of the plan. He's been the one basically carrying the load of the transitional game. He's been great getting the puck out of the zone and passing it off in the neutral zone.

I don't see why it has to be Eberle helping Hodgson or the other way around. Quinn has put them together for a reason and they each have different responsibilities on the ice. That is a very clear fact. In the end it's working so everyone needs to calm down.

As for Eberle's "one game". People seem to forget that he scored a pretty nice goal in tight to complete the comeback against the US that Tavares started. He's been one of Canada's most clutch players in the 2 biggest games so far.
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I really enjoyed watching Shattenkirk, MSP, Tatar and Markstrom play.

1. Tavares
2. Hodgson
3. Eberle

You are ONLY looking at points. Backlund sure stepped up his game a bit but he isnt even top3 Forward for Sweden this tournament.
I do think MSP has had the best performance among swedish forwards so far.

I definitely agree, MSP has without a doubt been the best forward for the Swedish team in this tournament, even if it hasn't really shown on the scoreboard, he has created a ton of scoringchances on his own, and drawn alot of penalties aswell. I hope he could get a goal or two tonight.

MSP along with Markstrom and Karlsson has been the best Swedish players in this tourney, no doubt.

If I were Pat Quinn I would have a practice of dump and chases....anyone who carries the puck past the blueline the whole practice does 20 pushups and 5 hard laps.

Fair enough, I only saw their game against Russia and Against Slovakia and liked what I saw from Backlund, but I will take your word for it. But do you honestly think that MSP has been better then Tavares, Hodgson, Eberle, Filatov, Schroeder, Wilson, Van Riemsdyk or Tatar??

Yeah those were Backlunds best games by far but I still think MSP was better even those twp games.

Did I say that? Nope I didnt.

I'd rank Tavares ahead of him because he has the points I dont think he has been overly amazing through out the tournament though. One huge game(usa) and barely visible vs Russia. But still the points speak for itself.

I think he has been on par with Hodgson, Eberle and Schroeder but ahead of the rest you mentioned

Tavares
Markstrom
Filatov

In my book MSP has shown that he's got the highest potential in the tournament. His skillset of balance, speed, puckhandling and timing is unique.

Yeah those were Backlunds best games by far but I still think MSP was better even those twp games.

Did I say that? Nope I didnt.

I'd rank Tavares ahead of him because he has the points I dont think he has been overly amazing through out the tournament though. One huge game(usa) and barely visible vs Russia. But still the points speak for itself.

I think he has been on par with Hodgson, Eberle and Schroeder but ahead of the rest you mentioned

No I know you didn't say that, I was just implying that I didn't think he deserved to be in the Top-3 forwards for the tournament.

If you're going to rank Tavares ahead of MSP, you might as well rank Hodgson there too as he has only one less point then Tavares. The third spot I think will come down to tonight's game...but I think that MSP will have to have a hell of a game to make the third spot. I would not be surprised at all to see Tatar there especially if he scores again today against the Russians.

This is turning out to be another thread about how Hodgson is overrated...

What more could i expect, i guess the word Hodgson is taboo on the WJC forums.

People who say Hodgson is bad or has not done much need to get there eyes checked.

2nd in points
on first pp
on first PK

Set up how many open netter for john tavares this tourney?.

:help::help:

No I know you didn't say that, I was just implying that I didn't think he deserved to be in the Top-3 forwards for the tournament.

If you're going to rank Tavares ahead of MSP, you might as well rank Hodgson there too as he has only one less point then Tavares. The third spot I think will come down to tonight's game...but I think that MSP will have to have a hell of a game to make the third spot. I would not be surprised at all to see Tatar there especially if he scores again today against the Russians.

Well I'm not just going by points. Tavares had a huge game as I said allready. IMO I've liked what ive seen from MSP more than what ive seen from Hodgson.

Agreed Tatar has been amazing but so has MSP. I think anyone of Eberle, MSP, Hodgson, Filatov, Tatar could end up being top3 players of the tournament. Tonight's games is going to decide that

I don't see why it has to be Eberle helping Hodgson or the other way around. Quinn has put them together for a reason and they each have different responsibilities on the ice. That is a very clear fact. In the end it's working so everyone needs to calm down.

That's a pretty good way of looking at it. And Eberle did have the better game against Russia. But I still feel Hodgson to be the better of the two players in this tournament.

In my book MSP has shown that he's got the highest potential in the tournament. His skillset of balance, speed, puckhandling and timing is unique.

I have been impressed as well, but not as much as Tavares. JT had one mediocre game against the Russians but was pretty dominant against the other opponents in the tournament. He is a pure goal scrorer and sniper and with 12 goals in 12 games in WJC for a player not even drafted yet...its hard to argue with those numbers. You will probably say that numbers don't tell the whole story and that is true...but when JT turns it on, he can take over a game by himself..just ask the Americans. You have to be a special player to accomplish that.

Having said that, I have really enjoyed watching MSP and think he could be a fantastic player in the NHL. He has all the tools to be successful but seems to have problems finishing is plays off. If he can put the puck in the net, then he could develop into a Rick Nash type player. he will be picked between 3-5 at this years draft..book it.

2 swedish players almost guaranteed in the top 5 from Sweden...that's such a great sign to see the Swedish Hockey Program come back in force. When was the last time two Swede's were picked in the top 5, the Sedin twins??

Oh really. Maybe you can explain where his assist is.

59.55 5 - 5 EQ Canada 14. EBERLE, Jordan
(19. TAVARES, John)


Because you dont get an assist for lifting a stick. Does that really need to be explained to you? Hodgson is not a flashy player but he does the small things that allow his team to win. Such as lifting the stick of an opponent so that a teammate can gain control. Hodgson should be applauded for unselfishly making the smart play. This is the reason he was voted smartest player in the OHL. He does what it takes for his team to win. Not the play that makes him look best.

Best 6 players:

MSP - Tavares - Tatar
Goncharov - Voinov
Markstrom

Bolded are the guys I'd pick if I had to choose just 3.

Best defense: Russia
Worst defense (from top teams): Sweden/USA

Best forward group: Sweden
Worst forward group (out of top 4): Slovakia (or Russia if we are talking top hockey countries at the tourney)

Best team game: Slovakia (but Russia not too far behind)
Worst team game: USA

Best goaltending: Sweden
Worst goaltending (from top teams): USA

Well I wouldent make a choice until after the tournament is done but as the most valuable player on Canada I would put Hodgson over Tavares. People get way too caught up on points, and highlight reel goals, and the hype generated by TSN. Without a doubt Tavares is a elite player, and a important player but overall Hodgson for me has been with out a doubt the more important of the two. I think every one forgets about his play away from puck, his play on the pk, and all the little things that are hard too see.

Because you dont get an assist for lifting a stick. Does that really need to be explained to you? Hodgson is not a flashy player but he does the small things that allow his team to win. Such as lifting the stick of an opponent so that a teammate can gain control. Hodgson should be applauded for unselfishly making the smart play. This is the reason he was voted smartest player in the OHL. He does what it takes for his team to win. Not the play that makes him look best.

thanks, this pretty much sums up what i have seen.

tavares, tatar, markstrom

I don't know how anyone who watched the canada russia game can mention PK Subban as a tourney allstar....he was simply atrocious...turn over after turn over, and the 5-4 russian goal was his fault for not clearing his man away from the crease and STANDING THERE DOING SWEET **** ALL

besides +/- is a dumb rating system regardless.

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I don't know how anyone who watched the canada russia game can mention PK Subban as a tourney allstar....he was simply atrocious...turn over after turn over, and the 5-4 russian goal was his fault for not clearing his man away from the crease and STANDING THERE DOING SWEET **** ALL

besides +/- is a dumb rating system regardless.

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Yes Subban was just terrible...did you notice that he was on the ice for two goals and neither was his fault?? The first one Pietrangelo just fell on the ice leaving the Russian forward a straight line to the goalie and on the second goal it was Goloubef who was just standing around not tying up his man.

I will admit that Subban didn't have his best game and turned the puck over maybe 2 times??..(not a turnover machine like you said) but it was because he was trying to make fancy plays but ended up fixing pretty much all his own mistakes. If you want to blame somebody on defence, blame Hickey. He was far worse then Subban and had one of the worst shifts I have ever seen from a D-Man in the first period. You're right about plus/minus being a little overated, but none the less, you don't find it impressive that the first time he was on the ice for an even strength goal was in his 5th game?? He has also been on the ice for about 29 or 30 of the 40 (about 75%) goals Canada has scored and on the ice only for 2 against out of 11.

He has been very impressive regardless of how you cut it.

Best 6 players:

MSP - Tavares - Tatar
Goncharov - Voinov
Markstrom

Bolded are the guys I'd pick if I had to choose just 3.

Best defense: Russia
Worst defense (from top teams): Sweden/USA

Best forward group: Sweden
Worst forward group (out of top 4): Slovakia (or Russia if we are talking top hockey countries at the tourney)

Best team game: Slovakia (but Russia not too far behind)
Worst team game: USA

Best goaltending: Sweden
Worst goaltending (from top teams): USA

Seriously?

How did you come to this conclusion? IMO Russias defense has looked the worst among the remaining nations. Swedens? Perhaps our strongest part so far this tournament.

Seriously?

How did you come to this conclusion? IMO Russias defense has looked the worst among the remaining nations. Swedens? Perhaps our strongest part so far this tournament.

Ya I would have said Sweden with the best defence and Canada with the best offence..but, its a personal opinion I guess!

Because you dont get an assist for lifting a stick. Does that really need to be explained to you? Hodgson is not a flashy player but he does the small things that allow his team to win. Such as lifting the stick of an opponent so that a teammate can gain control. Hodgson should be applauded for unselfishly making the smart play. This is the reason he was voted smartest player in the OHL. He does what it takes for his team to win. Not the play that makes him look best.

"If Hodgson doesn't lift the stick of the Russian defender and dig the puck out, Eberle doesn't score that goal."

So he "Dug" the puck out, but did not get a assist? He did nothing on the goal

I like it, I would throw MSP on the top line. I think he has been the best player this tournament.

he needs to show more finish, but he is has been pretty goodi would say Schroeder, Tavares, Filatov have been better

Seriously?

How did you come to this conclusion? IMO Russias defense has looked the worst among the remaining nations. Swedens? Perhaps our strongest part so far this tournament.

If you are talking offensive zone, maybe, but there I'd still give the edge to USA/Canada though. In the defensive zone, I am seeing a lot of turnovers, standing around not knowing what to do, lost board battles. The forwards are helping out very well defensively, and Markstrom is a great goalie, so it's not very noticeable overall I suppose.

"If Hodgson doesn't lift the stick of the Russian defender and dig the puck out, Eberle doesn't score that goal."

So he "Dug" the puck out, but did not get a assist? He did nothing on the goal

I was not the one who said he did. If you wish to repond at least respond to what I said. Too say he did nothing on that goal either shows a distinct lack of hockey knowledge or blind hatred for anything Vancouver (or maybe just Hodgson?). I personally dont think that goal happens if Cody doesnt lift the stick. You may feel different. We will leave it at that.

"If Hodgson doesn't lift the stick of the Russian defender and dig the puck out, Eberle doesn't score that goal."

So he "Dug" the puck out, but did not get a assist? He did nothing on the goal

whats you point? you seem hell bent on trying to make Hodgson look bad. in the end you just end up looking like a troll since Hodgson has been one of the top 2 players on team Canada, by far. and he clearly played a important part on that goal, and infact the entire shift that created that goal.
anyways if your just going to troll then dont bother posting...criticize him all you want but dont make **** up and twist truths.

That's a pretty good way of looking at it. And Eberle did have the better game against Russia. But I still feel Hodgson to be the better of the two players in this tournament.I don't think many will argue who the better player has been this tournament. I think people just get bent out of shape because you sound like you're implying Hodgson has been good in spite Eberle which isn't true. They've complimented each other well and both have benefited from it.

I didn't notice Hodgson after the first 3 games. I mean even in OT vs Russia he was getting the minutes but no way in hell did he play like he'd score a goal.

A failed attempt to go against the gain and seem intelligent ?

Against the gain?

I thought Hodgson was actually average at best defensivly this tourney. His offensive game is there but he seems to be making a few too many mistakes in the neutral zone.

Yep. Eberle is making Hodgson look a lot better than he is.

2 great periods for eberle does not make him top 3 player in the tourny.

In the first period everybody was screaming at him for his 5 turnovers alone.

Hodgson has done all tourney what was asked of him, play his roll, dont need flash. do what it takes to win.

I aint saying eberle was not great in the tourny, he has been good.
But not in tavares/Hodgson territory.

Proof is in the other thread, "rate canada's top forwards"

95% of the people put Hodgson behind tavares.

I didn't notice Hodgson after the first 3 games. I mean even in OT vs Russia he was getting the minutes but no way in hell did he play like he'd score a goal.

Maybe you missed the first min of overtime. When he deaked out 1 russian player then he sent a perfect pass to eberle, and eberle dident even get a shot off..

I think Filatov deserves some mention here, I don't know if he cracks the top 3... but the kid has been unreal.

No love for Karlsson? From what I've seen, he's been electric.

So pretty much the template for these lists is as follows:

Tavares
[Homer Pick]
Janus/Markstrom/Tatar

I guess mine will be:

Tavares
DiDomenico
Janus/Markstrom/Tatar

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I think Filatov deserves some mention here, I don't know if he cracks the top 3... but the kid has been unreal.

The problem for Filatov is that in the 2 games on TSN against the Swedes and Canadians, he just wasen't that impressive. He did all his damage against Slovakia, Latvia and Finland but I did not see the game against the Czech Republic...

So he "Dug" the puck out, but did not get a assist? He did nothing on the goal

Watch the last 20 seconds of the period.

Watch what Hodgson (#18) does in the seconds leading up to Eberle's goal.

It's unmistakeable.

Watch the last 20 seconds of the period.

Watch what Hodgson (#18) does in the seconds leading up to Eberle's goal.

It's unmistakeable.

Who smashed themselves up against the boards to keep it in the Russia zone? Was it Hodgson?

Who smashed themselves up against the boards to keep it in the Russia zone? Was it Hodgson?

I'm not arguing against that. Either way, that's a moot point right now.

Guy said Hodgson had nothing to do with the goal when he clearly did.

Quick question for anyone who watched the previous WJC's:

How did Crosby, Ovechkin and Malkin play in their respective years? Would any of them have been considered top 3 players in the tournaments they played in?

I'm not arguing against that. Either way, that's a moot point right now.

Guy said Hodgson had nothing to do with the goal when he clearly did.

:laugh: No, I was asking. Who kept it in the Russian's zone when it looked like it would be cleared. I can't remember for all the chaos going on.

:laugh: No, I was asking. Who kept it in the Russian's zone when it looked like it would be cleared. I can't remember for all the chaos going on.

If I remember correctly Ellis kept it in, Hodgson was digging at it and got it a bit further down to Tavares, who backhanded it towards the net. I'm sure you know the rest.

Speaking of the top players of the tournament, when will they announce the allstar team?

Bob Mckenzie's

G = (Tied) Markstrom/Janus
D = Karlsson & Subban
F = Backlund & Hodgson & Tavares

Mine would be:

G = Markstrom
D = Karlsson & Subban
F = Filatov & Hodgson & Tavares

As for top 3: Tavares, Markstrom, Hodgson --- in that order

Speaking of the top players of the tournament, when will they announce the allstar team?

They will announce all award winners (including the allstar team) after the gold medal game

If I had to choose a tournament all-star team I'd go:

Filatov - Tavares - Hodgson

Karlsson - Subban

Janus

pretty good

If I remember correctly Ellis kept it in, Hodgson was digging at it and got it a bit further down to Tavares, who backhanded it towards the net. I'm sure you know the rest.

Thanks, I thought that was who it was. Heck of a play by Ellis. Obviously that play doesn't happen without him.

this is about right

Filatov - Tavares - Tatar

Karlsson - Goncharov

Janus

Eberle? One game is enough?

1. Tedenby
2. Backlund
3. Markström

Unbiased of course.

He has 10 points in the tourny to tie for 4th in scoring.

One game?

Im pretty sure its the other way around myself.

You're obviously not watching the WJHCs, Eberle had a monumental game against the Russians, but putting down arguably the best Canadian forward cause you think your guy is better? Eberle is going to be a stud, but it's obvious he's benefitting from Hodgson as a center. Hodgson does just about everything as good or much better than Eberle.

42 g in the WHL as a 17 year old? How many guys have done that and not made the tourney?

It's really unbecoming to constantly put down a Canadian player because he's a prospect of a team that's not yours? Give your head a shake. Hodgson's 42p in 24g in the OHL this year are worthless I assume, although I was sure Eberle played in the west....

Anybody know what kind of watches the kids won for being the top three?
I've been trying to Google it, but all I get is "top players to watch", lol. I also went to the IIHF page but there is no list of sponsors.

IMO...

All-Star Team
Tavares - Hodgson - Filatov
Myers - Karlsson
Markstrom

HMs: Eberle, Subban, Janus

Anybody know what kind of watches the kids won for being the top three?
I've been trying to Google it, but all I get is "top players to watch", lol. I also went to the IIHF page but there is no list of sponsors.

I think they said Tissot

I think they said Tissot

Yes...those were Tissot boxes.

I thought the Wilson kid from the US was good, and the Dman on Canada who is #8 impressed too from what I saw.

I think they said Tissot

Thanks for the info (and quick reply)

Wilson Tavares Filatov Forwards

Ellis Karlsson Defense

Markstrom Goalie

Quick question for anyone who watched the previous WJC's:

How did Crosby, Ovechkin and Malkin play in their respective years? Would any of them have been considered top 3 players in the tournaments they played in?

Crosby was good in his final year at WJC but not dominant as one might think...partially because bunch of NHL guys like Patrice Bergeron came back to play due to the lockout.

Ovechkin gave up his team once team and sat out the last half of the game with a minor injury once Canada started hitting him again and again and again.

Malkin showed flashes of brilliance and took over for Ovechkin as Russia's top guy once Ov gave up but he wasn't as dominant as you may think based on his NHL play. However, that Canadian team was just SOOO dominant that none of their opponents got going that year where Crosby, OV and Malkin all played their last tournament.

1-Hodgson
2-Eberle
3-Tavares

Malkin showed flashes of brilliance and took over for Ovechkin as Russia's top guy once Ov gave up but he wasn't as dominant as you may think based on his NHL play. However, that Canadian team was just SOOO dominant that none of their opponents got going that year where Crosby, OV and Malkin all played their last tournament.

You're looking at just one game...Malkin won tournament MVP even though he played for the 2nd place team. I remember thinking Malkin was on a complete different level then everyone else in Vancouver.

You're looking at just one game...Malkin won tournament MVP even though he played for the 2nd place team. I remember thinking Malkin was on a complete different level then everyone else in Vancouver.

Agree. I saw some of those games live and he was several notches above anyone else on the ice. Like a man amongst boys. Amazing to watch.

Granted I've missed most of the games, but from what I've seen the top 3 would be:

Hodgson, Karlsson, Goncharov.

Wilson Tavares Filatov Forwards

Ellis Karlsson Defense

Markstrom Goalie

Wow talk about falling in love with McGuire's favorite.

Ellis was great for the powerplay, but besides that was weak in all other areas. he didn't play that much besides on the powerplay because he was constantly getting muscled off the puck or losing battles in the corner. If you actually think this kid was one of the 2 best d-men in the whole tournament, I don't know what games you were watching.

Karlsson should have been tourney MVP for his mustache alone.

Forward: Tavares

Defenceman: Karlsson

Goalie: Markstrom

Switch Hodgson with Tavares and I agree,also can live with that three too.

A top 3 to recognize other players than the usual suspects....

Janus
Goncharov
Tatar/Kana/Grachev (if it's just for his shorthanded goal 3 on 5.....) The Rangers have a good one that I wanted us to draft.....great steal....

If you can't see that Eberle is majorly benefitting from playing on a line with Hodgson you're blind.

I can't imagine how many more primary assists Hodgson would have if Eberle was paying more attention.

You're joking right? Hodgson never passes the puck to anyone. Eberle did the heavy lifting and passes to Hodgson who just shoots.

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What game are you watching. Hodgson has incredible vision, makes very few mistakes and away from the puck, game in, game out is outstanding!

Doesn't do any boardwork and passes only to Tavares who sits idly by the net.

If Ellis didnt keep the puck in, Eberle doesnt score that goal. If Tavares didnt backhand the puck to the net Eberle doesnt score that goal. If Eberle didnt have as sick of hands as he does he doesnt score that goal.

Alot more to that goal than Hodgson. To say that shows how little you know. Sorry if that was rude.

He didn't watch the tourney he only had eyes for his Hodgson. Never focused on what was happening or how plays unfolded. Vancouver fans. :help:

You're joking right? Hodgson never passes the puck to anyone. Eberle did the heavy lifting and passes to Hodgson who just shoots.



Doesn't do any boardwork and passes only to Tavares who sits idly by the net.

back to back posts.

Just like to pretend you know what you are talking about?

You're joking right? Hodgson never passes the puck to anyone. Eberle did the heavy lifting and passes to Hodgson who just shoots.

This is the 2nd thread I have seen you type this in. Are you trying to show off your distinct lack of hockey knowledge? Because I doubt you will find anyone else that isnt a hardcore Oiler homer that would agree with you. Do yourself a favour and stop so you can save yourself from further embarrassment.

This is the 2nd thread I have seen you type this in. Are you trying to show off your distinct lack of hockey knowledge? Because I doubt you will find anyone else that isnt a hardcore Oiler homer that would agree with you. Do yourself a favour and stop so you can save yourself from further embarrassment.

Did you watch the tourney or just your homeboy? Hodgson has a lot of work to do if he wants to be in the show, he a defensive retard who only passes to one player and subsequently milked points off of doing basically nothing. It's the Vancouver fans who just watched the highlights that are embarrassing themselves.

You didn't say anything twice. You contradicted yourself.
Well he passed to no one other than Tavares usually, boy that was tough to figure out eh?

hodgson
karlsson
tavares

Honorable mentions: subban, markstrom

You didn't say anything twice. You contradicted yourself.

Forget about him. He is obviously just playing the troll. His hatred towards anything Vancouver is rather obvious.

You're joking right? Hodgson never passes the puck to anyone.

You know Hodgson was #18 right?

You know Hodgson was #18 right?
Did you happen to notice #14 was the one passing to him?

Did you watch the tourney or just your homeboy? Hodgson has a lot of work to do if he wants to be in the show, he a defensive retard who only passes to one player and subsequently milked points off of doing basically nothing. It's the Vancouver fans who just watched the highlights that are embarrassing themselves.

lol @ this post.

Over the top and biased, but simultaneously I think all of the Hodgson homeboys should understand it is rooted in truth. Unfortunately for NW div fans his teamplay/passing tendencies/defensive decisions are all actually easily correctable elements to his game and aren't really that bad off to begin with. The negatives in his game are clearly visible but I can't think of anything MORE fixable. One training camp could clear up the worst tendencies in his game and then it is all gravy.

A top 3 to recognize other players than the usual suspects....

Janus
Goncharov
Tatar/Kana/Grachev (if it's just for his shorthanded goal 3 on 5.....) The Rangers have a good one that I wanted us to draft.....great steal....

Love Grachev - third round steal from for the rags

Janus
Hodgson
Schroeder