Anyone else wish CAN-RUS didn't end in a shootout?

Look for starters that was a classic game. I always thought that the '91 WJC game between Can/Rus was the best but this one just might take the cake. I was ecstatic when Canada tied it and that gave them the boost they needed and I felt they really took the play to the Russians in overtime. But it was only 10 minutes. If that overtime goes 20 minutes I truly believe Canada wins.

We were humbled in that game if anything it will help us work harder in the gold medal game. You could see it in Tavares' face in the post game interview he wasnt exactly satisfied with his or the team's play (although he had 2 assists and came on strong in the end to help tie the game and then win it).

But my question is this: Does anyone else feel like we were cheated out of what could have been an even better game? When the overtime ended, I'll admit one thing I was nervous. And to be honest even when we won I still wished we hadnt won that way. Tavares really proved his worth in the end but IMO that is not a way to decide a game of that importance. By the way, in case someone is unable to see, I am Canadian, we won, yet I prefer it not to have been THAT way

I HATE the shootout. Especially in a game like this. I can handle it in an NHL regular season enviroment, but in a championship or playoff type game, nope.

The look on a the Russian players faces after the shootout loss was heartbreaking, they deserved to win or loose as a team, not as individuals.

International hockey is the only place where I don't mind the shootout deciding big games, and I don't even have a real reason for that other than my just being used to it. It's just the way I can always remember it happening in big international tourneys.

I didn't mind the shootout too much. It had that movie-like epic feel to it.

I think alot of people were hoping the teams would put one in before OT expired. It just seems like such an anti-climactic way to see a game like that end, especially after the last second tying goal.

The Russians deserved better IMO.

na man. canada won.

I think alot of people were hoping the teams would put one in before OT expired. It just seems like such an anti-climactic way to see a game like that end, especially after the last second tying goal.

The Russians deserved better IMO.

I agree, the anti-climactic ending to such a hard fought game from both teams was just flat-out boring. Yes, I know it's a skills test but going into a shootout with Canada? I doubt any team would emerge as the winner.

I feel bad for the Russians... with that said, they did shoot themselves in the foot when they purposely iced the puck with 30 sec. left.

I don't mind shootouts but not in playoff games.

I hate shootouts in important games.

You got the sense that either team could score on any shot. It was very fast paced and both teams were trading chances. I think if it was a 20 minute OT period, we would have had a winner.

I was at the game and I wished the 4-4 overtime continued until a winner was decided. Unbelievable atmosphere, it was a shame to see the winner decided that way.

I HATE shootouts, Whether it be the NHL,WJC,or soccer.

I don't mind shootouts but not in playoff games.

Agreed, it sucks.

Sucks how they lost but i think they would have anyways they were outplayed in the OT easily.

Shootouts are fine for game 47 in January but important games like this deserve better then a skills competition.

That said, I loved the result.

I didn't like the shootout this game, but I think it's because it was so different from '07, where you were on the edge of your seat and next goal/save wins.

I would have rather this game ended in overtime, as the shootout I felt was anti-climatic cause you knew the end was coming after Tavares scored that goal.

But like others said, I am happy with the result.

I didnt want it to end shoot out.

Yes, if Russia won.

I think alot of people were hoping the teams would put one in before OT expired. It just seems like such an anti-climactic way to see a game like that end, especially after the last second tying goal.

The Russians deserved better IMO.

agreed,and I would not mind it in the round robin, but in situations like this I would rather have ot, followed by more ot if needed.

On the other hand, one team played the day before, the other did not, so the longer it goes, the ... you get the point. So may be the shooout is not that bad. Plus one of the teams needs to play the next day - again the longer - the more the disadvantage in the game with Sweden

But 3 shots is too little. Make it 5.

I agree, the anti-climactic ending to such a hard fought game from both teams was just flat-out boring. Yes, I know it's a skills test but going into a shootout with Canada? I doubt any team would emerge as the winner.

I feel bad for the Russians... with that said, they did shoot themselves in the foot when they purposely iced the puck with 30 sec. left.
Are you kidding me? Canada used to kind of suck at shootouts. We've won a few times, but mostly Euros were better because they were more used to them. Now that there are shootouts in the NHL, Canadians are as good as anyone else.

International hockey is the only place where I don't mind the shootout deciding big games, and I don't even have a real reason for that other than my just being used to it. It's just the way I can always remember it happening in big international tourneys.

I agree with you, it seems less 'gimmicky' in the international tourney's because that is the norm.

Also, keep in mind these are young men (18-20) and their not conditioned like NHL players (mostly) and I don't think that the quality would be that great, its already amateur, imagine with fatigue.

Have to agree with Den...
1. Russians were too exhausted to keep going. So a shoot out gave us (Russians) actually a better chance to win, IMO
2. I was under the impression that with IIHF you have 5 shoot out tries, not 3

What a boring ending.

It's a horrible way to win a hockey game. I'm happy Canada won the game, but I wish they would have won in overtime.

As far as excitement goes, tying the game with 5 seconds left was exciting. The shootout was anti-climactic.

Seriously, any elimination game should NOT be decided by a skills competition.

I agree, the anti-climactic ending to such a hard fought game from both teams was just flat-out boring. Yes, I know it's a skills test but going into a shootout with Canada? I doubt any team would emerge as the winner.

I feel bad for the Russians... with that said, they did shoot themselves in the foot when they purposely iced the puck with 30 sec. left.

**** them.
That said, I can't stand shootouts to decide major games like this. NHL regular season np.

I agree, the anti-climactic ending to such a hard fought game from both teams was just flat-out boring. Yes, I know it's a skills test but going into a shootout with Canada? I doubt any team would emerge as the winner.


The funny thing is, 15 years ago this statement would have been the exact opposite. :laugh:

I would have loved for the OT to continue but thems the rules. Either way, Canada would have won because they were pressing like crazy throughout the OT.

Games of that magnitude should never be decided by a shootout. What's the rush? There were no games scheduled later. Play til someone wins

Games are always more fun when they end in goals. Shootout would have been fine if Canada was shooting last. Goalies just don't do a celebration justice.

shootouts are the worst creation ever for deciding a playoff-type game, you take the quintessential team game and reduce it to a skills competition, its freaking pathetic...I'm glad Canada won but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth having to win in a SO. Hopefully we beat the Swedes in regulation

Question though....if the game is played through continuous OT and goes on for quite some time, doesn't that put either team at a serious disadvantage for the gold or bronze medal games due to exhaustion? Food for thought.

Its as if everyone forgets that we've had shootouts in international events for a long time. I swear, its like half of you think they added them because the NHL did. Nobody complained about international shootouts until the NHL brought them in for the regular season, which to me is ****ing ass-backwards.

They have a 10 minute sudden death 4 on 4 OT. Thats sufficient time/ice to decide a semi final.

I think you have to have shoot outs to decide games PRIOR to the final...because you don't want to see a 4 OT game...24 hours before the final that basically decides the Golden game on account of one finalist playing a marathon.

The FINAL should NOT have a shoot out to decide it though IMO.

Much more exciting to just see OT and I felt shootout ruins some excitement. It kind of calms it down a bit. But in OT every shot from every angle that Russia takes, I would close my eyes. You just never know. I feel much more at ease in the shootout. Classic game, though, the past 2 games could be 2 of my favorite games at the WJ's ever.

Is there any highlight videos to that game yet?

They have a 10 minute sudden death 4 on 4 OT. Thats sufficient time/ice to decide a semi final.

I think you have to have shoot outs to decide games PRIOR to the final...because you don't want to see a 4 OT game...24 hours before the final that basically decides the Golden game on account of one finalist playing a marathon.

The FINAL should NOT have a shoot out to decide it though IMO.

The final is actually 48 hours away, and they do it all the time in the NHL, it makes for some very memorable games.

I think an OT goal would have been a more fitting ending. Canada would have won either way IMO. The Russians were on their heels the entire 10 minutes of OT.

2. I was under the impression that with IIHF you have 5 shoot out tries, not 3

Starting from this year IIHF too has the 3-attempt shoot out relay

The final is actually 48 hours away, and they do it all the time in the NHL, it makes for some very memorable games.

TSN was afforded the oppurtunity to bump it back to Monday nite because they can take a primt time slot. IIHF would have no problem with that...but when the tournament is across the pond...the final comes 24 hrs after the semi final, yes?

I don't dispute that marathin games are exciting and memorable...but there ARE cons to it. Those extra minutes could easily lead to more injuries and you never know how long they might go.

Even a 48 hour turn around might not be enough time for 2 finalists to be 'even steven' if one of them played a marathon.

That being said...I can't HONESTLY tell yuo I wouldn't be on the other side of the equation if we had lost?

Truth be told...Canada has become as good or better than anyone else in shoot outs.

Makes it easier to like them.:handclap:

Starting from this year IIHF too has the 3-attempt shoot out relay

I don't like that choice. I usually prefer the NHL rules over international, but the 5 shooter format is superior in my opinion.

I didnt want it to end.

Canada was taking control.

Plus our goalie was weak. I didnt trust OUr goalie going into the shootout.

Have to agree with Den...
2. I was under the impression that with IIHF you have 5 shoot out tries, not 3

Maybe the Russian coach thought the same and was holding Filatov in reserve? :sarcasm:

Its as if everyone forgets that we've had shootouts in international events for a long time. I swear, its like half of you think they added them because the NHL did. Nobody complained about international shootouts until the NHL brought them in for the regular season, which to me is ****ing ass-backwards.

I did..............

Question though....if the game is played through continuous OT and goes on for quite some time, doesn't that put either team at a serious disadvantage for the gold or bronze medal games due to exhaustion? Food for thought.

A myth. It was 48 hours in between games. Nothing short of an excuse if any team cares to ever make one. These are suppose to be the best conditioned junior athletes in the world and if 48 hours is not enough............

shootouts don't belong in hockey. period.:rant:

Agreed, this game had no business ending in a shootout.

Have to agree with Den...
1. Russians were too exhausted to keep going. So a shoot out gave us (Russians) actually a better chance to win, IMO
2. I was under the impression that with IIHF you have 5 shoot out tries, not 3

Yeah I was a little surprised that it was a 3 shooter system.

Either way I hope the NHL(and IIHF I guess) go to the 5 shooter system. I'd rather see more shooters and for a team to have a chance to come back from being down 2-0 in the shootout.

I didnt want it to end.

Canada was taking control.

Plus our goalie was weak. I didnt trust OUr goalie going into the shootout.

You're not the only one who didn't trust him.

Agreed, this game had no business ending in a shootout.

agreed. its the final rounds, it should be sudden death (like the NHL playoffs)


no problem with games ending in shootout if its qualification, pre-tournament.....or in the NHL's case, regular season

but important games with everything on the line have no business ending this way

A myth. It was 48 hours in between games. Nothing short of an excuse if any team cares to ever make one. These are suppose to be the best conditioned junior athletes in the world and if 48 hours is not enough............

Isn't it NORMALLY only 24 hours though???

Beyond that...I think OUR kids are already playing waaay too many tough games before this tournament even starts.

Gawd almighty they eat each other alive just to make the team.

The shoot-out is a god send for Canada and its a god send for any of the top young prospects in the world.

I'm happy because it ended so fast. My heart can only take so much.

Its as if everyone forgets that we've had shootouts in international events for a long time. I swear, its like half of you think they added them because the NHL did. Nobody complained about international shootouts until the NHL brought them in for the regular season, which to me is ****ing ass-backwards.
We've been complaining about the shootouts for ages, especially when we were not as used to them as the Euros and we sure weren't happy with the shootouts in Nagano. Heck, the Czechs knew that they had a better chance at the shootouts so they kind of anticipated the next round whilst the Canadians were pressing very hard to avoid it and rightly so because we lost.

I honestly dont think I could have watched a 2nd OT. I was just that nervous.

We've been complaining about the shootouts for ageso-rly?
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I agree though. Guess its semi-okey in the quarterfinals and such, but it would suck if tonights game ended in penalties.

You're not the only one who didn't trust him.

I cringe everytime someone shoots off the wing on Tokarski as if it was someone shooting at Raycroft. If we lose tonight, Tokarski is probably going to be a main factor.

Sudden death is not very different from shootout in a sense that it is still a game of chance. The fact that it came to that, that there is not a clear winner after 3 periods+10 min OT shows how close a game it was. And in such a close game it comes down to chance. Russia would have a slightly better chance in OT but only because the shootout odds were so much in favor of Canada. Either way I think Canada would have won, in OT the Russian team being worn out from the day before working against them, and in the shootout the overall skill level of Canada has shown. The right team advanced, Canada has a more talented team this year for sure than Russia. But you can't help but feel bad for the Russian team, they played their hearts out.

to me, a shootout victory/loss is not a "real" victory/loss. Neither team really proved anything.