SF GDT 1/3 • Canada 6, Russia 5 (SO) Part 3 [Archive]

Squiffy

01-03-2009, 10:53 PM

2009 WJC SEMIFINAL
JANUARY 3, 2009 - 7:30 PM ET
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Scotiabank Place, Ottawa, ON

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HabsVision (JTV) (http://www.justin.tv/habsvision)
Live Box Score (http://stats.iihf.com/Hydra/172/live/2296.html)

Canada (http://www.eliteprospects.com/team.php?team=16188&metric=no)
7 Angelo Esposito - 19 John Tavares (A) - 25 Chris DiDomenico
11 Zach Boychuk (A) - 18 Cody Hodgson - 14 Jordan Eberle
15 Stefan Della Rovere - 28 Patrice Cormier - 29 Evander Kane
24 Jamie Benn - 12 Brett Sonne - 22 Tyler Ennis

4 Thomas Hickey (C) - 2 Colten Teubert
5 P.K. Subban - 17 Cody Goloubef
32 Keith Aulie - 3 Tyler Myers
10 Alex Pietrangelo - 8 Ryan Ellis

30 Dustin Tokarski
31 Chet Pickard

Russia (http://www.eliteprospects.com/team.php?team=1651&metric=no)
26 Evgeni Dadonov - 21 Nikita Klyukin (A) - 9 Dmitri Klopov
18 Dmitri Kugryshev - 10 Pavel Chernov - 23 Sergei Korostin
28 Nikita Filatov (C) - 15 Evgeni Grachev - 16 Sergei Andronov
29 Alexei Potapov - 13 Alexander Komaristy - 31 Kirill Petrov
22 Maxim Mayorov
25 Sergei Ostapchuk

6 Mikhail Pashnin - 5 Maxim Goncharov
3 Dmitri Kulikov - 24 Vyacheslav Voinov (A)
8 Vasily Tokranov - 27 Maxim Chudinov
2 Igor Golovkov
14 Dinar Khafizullin

1 Vadim Zhelobnyuk
20 Daniil Alistratov

Officials
http://www.eliteprospects.com/layout/flags/2.gif Tom Laaksonen
http://www.eliteprospects.com/layout/flags/2.gif Jani Levonen
http://www.eliteprospects.com/layout/flags/8.gif František Kalivoda
http://www.eliteprospects.com/layout/flags/4.gif Milan Novák

Scoring
1-0. Sonne (Sonne, Della Rovere) 2:02, 1st
1-1. Goncharov (Dadonov, Pashnin) 5:18, 1st
2-1. Cormier (Kane) 7:04, 1st
2-2. Klopov (Klyukin) 7:20, 1st
3-2. Eberle (Hodgson, Tavares) 16:40, 2nd, PPG
3-3. Grachev (Filatov) 0:51, 3rd
4-3. Esposito (Sonne) 5:44, 3rd, SHG
4-4. Andronov (Filatov, Goncharov) 6:22, 3rd, 5v3 PPG
4-5. Klopov (unassisted) 17:40, 3rd
5-5. Eberle (Tavares) 19:55, 3rd
6-5. Eberle (SO-winning goal)

Players of the Game
http://www.eliteprospects.com/layout/flags/3.gif Jordan Eberle
http://www.eliteprospects.com/layout/flags/9.gif Evgeni Grachev

Luongo2008*

01-03-2009, 10:54 PM

Whoever missed this game you gotta watch the highlights!

Scipio Africanus

01-03-2009, 10:54 PM

we got the Tavares-Hedman matchup I think we all wanted to see

Lucbourdon

01-03-2009, 10:55 PM

Eberle + Hodgson + Tavares = GODS OF JUNIOR HOCKEY

THE END

hockeysense*

01-03-2009, 10:55 PM

Seriously... great game.
All respect to Russia for making it the most epic game I've watched in years. I hate how the game was decided by the shoot-out, but hopefully the IIHF will take a step back and reconsider because there's nothing better than watching 10 players go head-to-head in an elimination game.

DrTurkelton

01-03-2009, 10:55 PM

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/79/211435558_1ddb32a17c.jpg?v=0

GO CANADA!!!

feel bad for the russian kids though

Wilma

01-03-2009, 10:56 PM

Congrats to the boys!

CRDragon

01-03-2009, 10:56 PM

Canada owned Hedman on in the x-tourney.

Now its the real thing.
Go Canada!

Raoul Duke*

01-03-2009, 10:56 PM

Pages 7-9 of Part 2 is pretty funny to read now. One dude trash talking and then you can see the reactions as Canada scores and he's just "**** me." lol.

Pauser

01-03-2009, 10:56 PM

Great win by Canada. Didn't like how we played most of the game, but the end result is all that matters. We played by far our worst game of the tournament but still came out on top.

We better bring our A-game on Monday!

JordanStaal#1Fan

01-03-2009, 10:56 PM

Great game, the Russians came out flying and our boys won anyway. BUt I feel we were lucky to win that one. Our powerplay sucked and we lacked composure, too many fancy plays. At least, we won.

Congrats to the Russians for the great game.

Jackie Moon

01-03-2009, 10:57 PM

5 seconds. Can't wait to see Hedman lay Tavares on his ass on Monday.

bitter much?

Plato

01-03-2009, 10:57 PM

Yes it was a great game to watch but did anybody think Canada wouldn't win this or the whole tournament rather?

I mean there is way too much hate towards Canada right now that doesn't make much sense.
And Canada fans are way too happy about a win that should have come with a lot of ease.

Canada in the WJC is like USA mens basketball. Anything but a W is a disappointment.

Pauser

01-03-2009, 10:57 PM

Congrats to the boys!

Thanks for the pic...awesome as an avatar :)

TOG26

01-03-2009, 10:57 PM

bitter much?

The little big man Tatar ran over Hedman think Tavares should be ok. :laugh:

hockeysense*

01-03-2009, 10:58 PM

Congrats to the boys!

Just made that my Facebook profile picture :D

CaNuCk#88

01-03-2009, 10:58 PM

That was a game for the ages but if Canada plays like they did tonight Sweden will win easily.

Sweden are WAY more talented this year than any tournament in recent years. If Canada turns the puck over to them as much as they did to Russia it will be a blow out IMO

Scipio Africanus

01-03-2009, 10:58 PM

I think the Nemchinov bashing is a little harsh, but I know that tool Maguire loves bashing people to try and hide that fact that he was a garbage head coach himself

Seriously, the pushed the greatest teenage hockey power in the world to the brink of elimination and was a bonehead icing away from doing it.

It was a gamble saving Filatov. Did anyone stop and think that Filatov maybe was exhausted after his lengthy OT? Russia lost because of their goalie in the shootout. Period. I personally like the strategy of saving your best forwards for last.

I mean, look at the NHL teams....a lot of NHL coaches do the same thing

Luongo2008*

01-03-2009, 10:58 PM

Guys remember when Russia had a chance at the open net when their was like 20 seconds left? Man, if they had scored then it would of been a BIG win for them...

Gozer

01-03-2009, 10:59 PM

Most people wait until they've won something to talk trash. One medal in the past 8 years doesn't really justify it.

Oh, and trash talking is rarely friendly and most people have taken it way too far on here. Not saying it's just Swedes. It's everyone, Canadians included.

Ok trash talking may not be the word I was looking for. But I can't see why some people have a problem with some swedes being a little cocky. And what do you mean that most people wait until they've won anything before they trash talk? In what reality is that? And once again, what the hell does the last 8 years have anything to do with this? If it was the same players you might have a point, otherwise you could just as easily go back 10, 20 or 30 years back in history.

This swedish team is one of the best since they won the last time. We have little ground to be cocky.

japper

01-03-2009, 10:59 PM

Just proves the greatest rivalry in hockey is Canada-Russia!!! Some would like to think it is Canada-US, but Amerika just cannot show up year after year. Canada has just played in 2 of the best ever games at the WJC.

Semantics

01-03-2009, 10:59 PM

Yes but your best player should be either first or more often second shot so he at least is guaranteed a chance to keep you in the game. Slotted third he might not even get a shot, as in this case. He scores as the second shooter it gives them some hope.

OR maybe you want to save your best player for the most high pressure situation, which is the third shot.

The fact is, Russia needed TWO goals, and they scored ZERO. Filatov cannot score two goals in one shot. So it doesn't matter at all whether he was third or second.

If he had shot second, then the guy who did shoot second would have shot third (if Hodgson didn't score) and the result would have been the same.

Nemchinov really had nothing to gain by putting him #2.

AVSfan2daMAX

01-03-2009, 10:59 PM

Monday it's gonne be us against the world and I wouldn't have it anyway. We beat our 2 biggest rivals and now we have a date with the Swedes to settle this at once!

Gotta love it. Winning is so much sweeter when your the villain. I still remember hammering the Russians in the finals in Grand Forks and Vancouver! That was great..

But today good game for the russians.

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About Filatov in the shootout, it's not like Tavares is great in the Shootout either. But big players play their best in big games. You have to put him, he's your captain, best player and honestly did you see that second russian attempt? Can you even call it an attempt? Did he not know he needed to score? It was almost as bad as Shanahan's attempt in Nagano on Hasek.

Schenn Him

01-03-2009, 10:59 PM

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Pauser

01-03-2009, 11:01 PM

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Beauty

Wilma

01-03-2009, 11:01 PM

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09PnaAZ6d5ats/1000x.jpg

Updated...that's the picture I was looking for!

oilgirl

01-03-2009, 11:02 PM

OMG. That picture is epic.

Killface

01-03-2009, 11:08 PM

Doesn't matter. You put the puck on your best player's stick with the game on the line. Gretzky was never a good breakaway shooter, and had no shootout record to speak of, but you can be damn sure if someone was going to beat Hasek that night, it was 99.

100% disagree. You put your best hockey players on for OT, you put your best shootout players out for the shootout.

01-03-2009, 11:08 PM

It was a gamble saving Filatov. Did anyone stop and think that Filatov maybe was exhausted after his lengthy OT? Russia lost because of their goalie in the shootout. Period. I personally like the strategy of saving your best forwards for last.

I mean, look at the NHL teams....a lot of NHL coaches do the same thing

So what if he's tired from OT? He has to skate in from centre and score. It's not like he was sending a guy out to do a windsprint competition.

A lot of NHL coaches do the same thing, but they're not in a single elimination game for a world championship tournament.

Filatov is the top guy on that team, he went first overall in the draft, he plays in the NHL, and he's the captain. He has to be out there.

Raoul Duke*

01-03-2009, 11:09 PM

So what if he's tired from OT? He has to skate in from centre and score. It's not like he was sending a guy out to do a windsprint competition.
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:laugh::laugh:

True that.

Luongo2008*

01-03-2009, 11:11 PM

Pictures from the game:

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Leafer4Life

01-03-2009, 11:12 PM

Friggin' amazing win tonight, woo hooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! :handclap::yo:

TMLeafer

01-03-2009, 11:12 PM

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A+. What a shot.

Slimmy

01-03-2009, 11:13 PM

Canada has home ice, are the current champions and has the most fanatic support you could ask for. Canada is not underdog.

AgentNaslund*

01-03-2009, 11:14 PM

Canada has home ice, are the current champions and has the most fanatic support you could ask for. Canada is not underdog.

your fan base is making it sound like Sweden is gonna win. All other haters are agreeing with them, thus making us the under dogs.

Kodachrome

01-03-2009, 11:15 PM

100% disagree. You put your best hockey players on for OT, you put your best shootout players out for the shootout.

Well, I still disagree.

edit: case in point: statistically speaking, Tavares is not one of Canada's best shootout players. By your logic, he doesn't shoot second, or at all for that matter.

Plato

01-03-2009, 11:18 PM

your fan base is making it sound like Sweden is gonna win. All other haters are agreeing with them, thus making us the under dogs.

Dude stop. Canada is not the underdog by any means. It's actually an embarrassment if anything if Canada doesn't win.

Personally I don't care who wins in the final as long as it's either a close game or a crazy blowout.

Nicko999

01-03-2009, 11:18 PM

I can't beleive Tokarski was in the nets!
What a ****in epic win:handclap:

Heatley#15

01-03-2009, 11:18 PM

Gozer

01-03-2009, 11:19 PM

your fan base is making it sound like Sweden is gonna win. All other haters are agreeing with them, thus making us the under dogs.

Most don't expect Canada to loose, they want they to loose. Which doesn't make them an underdog.

alienanton

01-03-2009, 11:20 PM

lost in all this is esposito's goal...holy crap what a move at the blue line and then on the goalie...wow.

Heatley#15

01-03-2009, 11:20 PM

How is it an embarrassment if we don't win? I remember now why I stopped coming on here.

AVSfan2daMAX

01-03-2009, 11:21 PM

Well, I still disagree.

edit: case in point: statistically speaking, Tavares is not one of Canada's best shootout players. By your logic, he doesn't shoot second, or at all for that matter.

Exactly. Yet everyone here knew Tavares was going to shoot. Of course he scored. Like I said previously big players make big plays in big games.

As your captain and best player it's silly to not have him shoot.

Plato

01-03-2009, 11:21 PM

How is it an embarrassment if we don't win? I remember now why I stopped coming on here.

I meant it as in Canada has a better squad than Sweden by miles...

Mr Lahey

01-03-2009, 11:22 PM

That got cleaned up real quick!

Jackie Moon

01-03-2009, 11:23 PM

I meant it as in Canada has a better squad than Sweden by miles...

who said that? Sweden has tons of skill probably more than Canada.

Killface

01-03-2009, 11:23 PM

Slimmy

01-03-2009, 11:24 PM

your fan base is making it sound like Sweden is gonna win. All other haters are agreeing with them, thus making us the under dogs.

What a few people on these board think is irrelevent in the light of the reality of this tourney.

HarryNealesJokebook

01-03-2009, 11:24 PM

Well, I still disagree.

edit: case in point: statistically speaking, Tavares is not one of Canada's best shootout players. By your logic, he doesn't shoot second, or at all for that matter.

Sorry, but I would put Kozlov out over Kovalchuk, Wolski over Stastny, Gagner over Hemsky, Letang over Crosby, etc. You cant always go with your best player.

Some players just have that shootout knack.

ViD

01-03-2009, 11:25 PM

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tragedy

Jackie Moon

01-03-2009, 11:26 PM

Sorry, but I would put Kozlov out over Kovalchuk, Wolski over Stastny, Gagne over Hemsky, Letang over Crosby, etc. You cant always go with your best player.

Some players just have that shootout knack.

Heatley, Spezza and Alfredsson blow at shootouts, Rutuu owns them.

OmegaTheory

01-03-2009, 11:26 PM

I feel sorry for Filatov seeing him sitting on the ice after the shootout, he looks so stuned.

Kodachrome

01-03-2009, 11:27 PM

Exactly. Yet everyone here knew Tavares was going to shoot. Of course he scored. Like I said previously big players make big plays in big games.

As your captain and best player it's silly to not have him shoot.

I'm actually shocked that there's such a disagreement about this, especially from Canadian fans. I don't remember the exact quote, but Gretzky was asked what he would have done in the shootout in Nagano, his reply was something along the lines of "score". Nothing's a given, but I don't doubt that he would have.

You put the puck on the stick of big game players in big game situations. Anything else, well, we've seen where that leads on a few occasions.

Kodachrome

01-03-2009, 11:28 PM

So, did you want Naslund or Daniel to shoot first last year?

Trevor. Big game player.

JV93

01-03-2009, 11:28 PM

Can someone provide Filatov's whole tournament stats for me including tonight's game vs Canada?

jcorb58

01-03-2009, 11:30 PM

I'm actually shocked that there's such a disagreement about this, especially from Canadian fans. I don't remember the exact quote, but Gretzky was asked what he would have done in the shootout in Nagano, his reply was something along the lines of "score". Nothing's a given, but I don't doubt that he would have.

You put the puck on the stick of big game players in big game situations. Anything else, well, we've seen where that leads on a few occasions.

Gretzky was weak on breakaways ....but never missed when they meant something

Guillemin

01-03-2009, 11:30 PM

Great game. The refs were absolute **** though (all round). Tried hard to ruin it.

Caesium

01-03-2009, 11:31 PM

Can someone provide Filatov's whole tournament stats for me including tonight's game vs Canada?

6GP 6G 3A 6PIM +1

jcorb58

01-03-2009, 11:32 PM

Can someone provide Filatov's whole tournament stats for me including tonight's game vs Canada?

6 goals 3 assits before tonight

1 assist tonight

octopi

01-03-2009, 11:33 PM

I feel sorry for Filatov seeing him sitting on the ice after the shootout, he looks so stuned.

Losing hurts. Particularly with a good team. Even more so when the game was so closely contested and nearly in their grasp.

01-03-2009, 11:34 PM

Dude stop. Canada is not the underdog by any means. It's actually an embarrassment if anything if Canada doesn't win.

Personally I don't care who wins in the final as long as it's either a close game or a crazy blowout.

Get off it. First it's "yeah, Canada's team isn't good enough" and then they come back and win it, and it's "oh well, it's their tournament and they should be embarrassed if they lose."

There are several very, very good teams at this tournament. There always are. The last howevermany years, Canada has hardly walked all over everyone, and there are always teams that have just as much of a shot at winning.

Sweden has an extremely good team, and Canada has not looked very good. Does Canada have the advantage of the crowd behind them? Yeah, sure, but Sweden looks like a better team on the ice right now. It should be a great game.

Caesium

01-03-2009, 11:35 PM

6 goals 3 assits before tonight

1 assist tonight

IIHF site says 6G 3A after tonight's game.

JV93

01-03-2009, 11:35 PM

Thanks for Nik's stats guys. I'm pumped for this kid. Go Jackets, and good luck vs the Sweeeeeeeeeeeds.

01-03-2009, 11:36 PM

lost in all this is esposito's goal...holy crap what a move at the blue line and then on the goalie...wow.

Yeah. He has had a very good tournament. He's shown himself to be willing to play any role and do anything to help the team. I didn't have an opinion on him before this, but the kid has played his ass off, and I hope this at least partially shuts up his detractors.

onice

01-03-2009, 11:45 PM

I love this Russian team. They have size, speed and skill. Having said that, the Canucks better bring their A game for Monday.

Dr Awesome

01-03-2009, 11:46 PM

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Canada should make this a stamp

Triguy

01-03-2009, 11:47 PM

I expected Filatov and Grachev in the shootout for the Russians...bad coaching decision?

Anyways, CANADA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! And I thought the game against the Americans was something, this is ****ing CRAZY!!

Maurice Richard*

01-03-2009, 11:47 PM

After everything he has been through it felt good to see him score .Canada played their worst game of the tournament tonite , aside from the OT when they appeared to get back to what works and thus dominated the OT .Shoot outs suck to decide big games , prelims and round robins fine .
If Canada shows up and plays Canadian hockey and not fancy pants believe all our press clippings hockey we will be fine , if the fancy pants team shows up we are done after 1 .

ps- i dont think the Swedes looked all that great today , your goalie hardly seemed unbeatable .I am sure you will be better Monday as we will be .

Maurice Richard*

01-03-2009, 11:48 PM

Canada should make this a stamp

We will have a better stamp after Monday , something about 5 gold medals i am sure ;)

IginlaSuperFan

01-03-2009, 11:51 PM

I meant it as in Canada has a better squad than Sweden by miles...

Disagree. Canada has more depth at forward, but Sweden has a few game breakers as well; also, Markstrom (sp) is much, much better than Tokarski right now. IMO, it's a pick-em game.

Plato

01-03-2009, 11:52 PM

Get off it. First it's "yeah, Canada's team isn't good enough" and then they come back and win it, and it's "oh well, it's their tournament and they should be embarrassed if they lose."

There are several very, very good teams at this tournament. There always are. The last howevermany years, Canada has hardly walked all over everyone, and there are always teams that have just as much of a shot at winning.

Sweden has an extremely good team, and Canada has not looked very good. Does Canada have the advantage of the crowd behind them? Yeah, sure, but Sweden looks like a better team on the ice right now. It should be a great game.

When did I say Canada "wasn't good enough." You must be confusing me with somebody else.

bullocks

01-03-2009, 11:52 PM

I meant it as in Canada has a better squad than Sweden by miles...

No they don't, do you even watch hockey? lol

Macman

01-03-2009, 11:53 PM

One day, hopefully many years from now, my heart will finally explode watching a game like this.

Over many years of watching Canada-Russia games I don't think I've ever said this: I feel sorry for the Russian players. They played great, especially defensively, never quit and probably deserved a better fate. Five seconds from victory has to hurt. It was tough watching them cry.

On the flip side, I don't know if I've ever seen a Canadian junior team play as poorly yet they still found a way to win. Way too many turnovers, the goaltending largely sucked, the defence sucked and the forwards fought the puck all night long. The good news heading into the final is, I don't think they can play worse.

Dr Awesome

01-03-2009, 11:53 PM

I think the rest of the world has it wrong when it comes to not caring about junior tournaments. These kids are respecting our country and I cheer just as hard for them as I do for Team Canada in the Olympics. It is really sad that most of the world feels junior age players are too inferior to care about them.

Agreed, countries should take pride in their young players that they produce. It's to bad because alot of place of talent and lack the support to help programs go further.

pbc37

01-03-2009, 11:55 PM

I dont understand why Myers doesnt get more ice time he was the only D-man who played good on team Canada(minus the giveaway that led to one of the russian goals). I also think Quinn is an absolute retard as subbann and hickey where way to offensive and were defensive liability's all game and Quinn played them the most of all the D-men. He also overplayed the Number one PP unit as it wasnt producing at all but they kept getting lots of mins. If the Canadian Defense and/or Quinn dont wake up monday is going to be tough.

adtthosa

01-04-2009, 12:02 AM

Wow what a thrilling end. It was looking pretty bleak until the last ten seconds. Full credit to the Russian players, they played very well and probably should have won. I'm sure it will be very hard for them to get up for the game against Slovakia. It's not too often in a World Junior game that I want both teams to win (Slovakia vs. Russia).

Canada played poorly tonight and will get schooled unless they can bring something better on Monday night. Our defense and goaltending has been suspect in these past two games. We need to improve on both aspects. If I were Pat Quinn I'd be seriously contemplating going with Pickard, but I very highly doubt he'd do that now. Tokarski just does not look comfortable.

I will remember Eberle's goal until the day I die. My family went nuts.

Luongo2008*

01-04-2009, 12:03 AM

This did needed 3 threads for a game like this.

woah man...

rodwan553

01-04-2009, 12:03 AM

Guys remember when Russia had a chance at the open net when their was like 20 seconds left? Man, if they had scored then it would of been a BIG win for them...

Don't even want to think about it.

Pauser

01-04-2009, 12:03 AM

Pauser

01-04-2009, 12:05 AM

Maurice Richard*

01-04-2009, 12:06 AM

Thank god for selfish players ..if that kid skates it out we are the ones crying in our poutine right now !!!!

Zine

01-04-2009, 12:06 AM

Scipio Africanus

01-04-2009, 12:08 AM

Canada should make this a stamp

sad, if you really mean it.

Maurice Richard*

01-04-2009, 12:12 AM

Canada has done well on home ice lately starting with North Dakota ;), Vancouver and now hopefully in Ottawa .

Pauser

01-04-2009, 12:13 AM

Canada has done well on home ice lately starting with North Dakota ;), Vancouver and now hopefully in Ottawa .

We invaded the USA?

buddahsmoka1

01-04-2009, 12:14 AM

Thank god for selfish players ..if that kid skates it out we are the ones crying in our poutine right now !!!!

Man, give the kid a break....he was in pure survival mode. Canada was all over them and once he got the puck he just got rid of it. I bet you wouldn't do any better out there....actually I guarantee it.

le_sean

01-04-2009, 12:15 AM

Is Marc Crawford the coach of Russia? Not putting his best player in the shootout, what a joke.

Kirk Muller

01-04-2009, 12:16 AM

Congrats to Canada. Well done.

Good to see Russia finally standing up to Canada physically at the junior level. The Canucks seemed very suprised by the fact and it seemed to throw them off their game.

Apart from a few stupid decisions, I commend Nemchinov for a good game plan. Doesn't get him of the hook for a very poorly chosen roster though.....could've used that extra talent at the depth positions BIG TIME this game.

I think for more than a few years Russia has stood up to Canada physically. Russia have been developing great combination of size, skill, and physical play. I think the one area were Russia still gets rattled is physical play against their backend but the forwards for a while now have shown grit and determination against the body bashing of Canada.

Maurice Richard*

01-04-2009, 12:18 AM

We invaded the USA?

We did for that WJC ...more fans from Canada there than yankees , it was like home ice ..i loved it !!!!

buddahsmoka1

01-04-2009, 12:19 AM

Is Marc Crawford the coach of Russia? Not putting his best player in the shootout, what a joke.

How do you know that Filatov wasn't the last shooter?

Westcoasthabsfan

01-04-2009, 12:20 AM

Disagree. Canada has more depth at forward, but Sweden has a few game breakers as well; also, Markstrom (sp) is much, much better than Tokarski right now. IMO, it's a pick-em game.

Markstrom looked pretty shaky today against the Slovaks..... but as you said it should be a good game

Maurice Richard*

01-04-2009, 12:21 AM

Man, give the kid a break....he was in pure survival mode. Canada was all over them and once he got the puck he just got rid of it. I bet you wouldn't do any better out there....actually I guarantee it.

Give him a break are you kidding ..if the roles were reversed and say Hickey did that we would hind and quarter him at centre ice .This is elite level hockey , he had lots of time to skate it out and he was selfish plain and simple, he was gonna be a "hero" ..this isnt the pee wee house league , that is a basic hockey screw up and it bit him big time !!!

01-04-2009, 12:23 AM

How do you know that Filatov wasn't the last shooter?

In a 3 person shootout, the "big guns" type of spot should generally be the second shooter.

ktownhockey

01-04-2009, 12:24 AM

Well boys and girls, another episode of classic world junior hockey has come to an end..

I love looking at these GDT's for the Russia /Canada game and see Swedish fans saying we aren't that good and that we looked brutal.

Canada beat Sweden fairly easily in the round robin and Sweden BARELY kept it together to beat a Slovak team that Canada routed in the pre tourney. I will say this Sweden is going to be our biggest competition thus far. They beat Russia aswell so I give them respect.

I will be at the game dawning my Red and White Jersey cheering my face off for our boys. Be ready Sweden... your gonna need to be!!!:yo:

rodwan553

01-04-2009, 12:25 AM

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09PnaAZ6d5ats/1000x.jpg

This should be on the $5 bill.

le_sean

01-04-2009, 12:25 AM

How do you know that Filatov wasn't the last shooter?

Put your best shooter first, guarantee him an actual shot. Play the odds on this one. He scores, his goalie and the other shooters gain confidence, Canada loses some. Pretty simple coaching.

Maurice Richard*

01-04-2009, 12:28 AM

Especially when you shoot second ..i was delighted to see no Filatov!!!

ryz

01-04-2009, 12:28 AM

Canada played thier worst overall game of the tournament. They were lucky to get by. They have to improve almost everything on the back end before a gold medal match against another good team. They certainly have the talent and ability to do it.

And I bet they will.

buddahsmoka1

01-04-2009, 12:30 AM

Give him a break are you kidding ..if the roles were reversed and say Hickey did that we would hind and quarter him at centre ice .This is elite level hockey , he had lots of time to skate it out and he was selfish plain and simple, he was gonna be a "hero" ..this isnt the pee wee house league , that is a basic hockey screw up and it bit him big time !!!

Dude, Hickey made much worse plays than that throughout the game. You have obviously never played competitive hockey at a high level in a pressure situation. Simple plays on the coach become hard plays on the ice.

Put your best shooter first, guarantee him an actual shot. Play the odds on this one. He scores, his goalie and the other shooters gain confidence, Canada loses some. Pretty simple coaching.

Or it comes down to the last shooter and you have your best player shooting. It works both ways man. Simple coaching is not always simple.

Zine

01-04-2009, 12:30 AM

TerminatorBlue

01-04-2009, 12:33 AM

I never seen the game but the highlights kinda showed Takarski letting in some weak? goals.....?? That's what it seemed like to me,maybe he didn't come up big when he should have.

Anyway we won that's all I care about...way to go Canada!!

buddahsmoka1

01-04-2009, 12:36 AM

Wait, what? When has the WJC ever been elite level hockey?.......these are just kids; many of whome will end up career minor leagers.

Now if was during the olympics or Stanley Cup and someone did that you'd have a point......but it's not.

Are you kidding me? This is the highest level of amateur hockey in the world, therefore, it is elite. What part do you not understand?

AVSfan2daMAX

01-04-2009, 12:37 AM

Wait, what? When has the WJC ever been elite level hockey?.......these are just kids; many of whome will end up career minor leagers.

Now if was during the olympics or Stanley Cup and someone did that you'd have a point......but it's not.You aren't for a second suggesting the WJC is not elite level tournament. I know you aren't.

GMofOilers

01-04-2009, 12:37 AM

Canada meet Jordan Eberle!!!!!

Maurice Richard*

01-04-2009, 12:38 AM

Man if the WJC arent elite level hockey , you must be playing in some kick ass hockey league !!!!

Pauser

01-04-2009, 12:39 AM

Wait, what? When has the WJC ever been elite level hockey?.......these are just kids; many of whome will end up career minor leagers.

Now if was during the olympics or Stanley Cup and someone did that you'd have a point......but it's not.

Guess your team lost?

http://racetalkblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/crybaby.jpg

Better luck next year

NyQuil

01-04-2009, 12:39 AM

Wait, what? When has the WJC ever been elite level hockey?.......these are just kids; many of whome will end up career minor leagers.

Now if was during the olympics or Stanley Cup and someone did that you'd have a point......but it's not.

The difference is that Canada doesn't treat this tournament or its players like kids.

01-04-2009, 12:40 AM

Wait, what? When has the WJC ever been elite level hockey?.......these are just kids; many of whome will end up career minor leagers.

Now if was during the olympics or Stanley Cup and someone did that you'd have a point......but it's not.

Show me a higher-level U-20 tournament. It's the highest possible level of competition at this age group. It's an elite tournament.

Dr Awesome

01-04-2009, 12:42 AM

sad, if you really mean it.

even if i did, how so? Sweden did it when Froppa score in the shootout to win it for sweden. U.S put the king of rock in a stamp, take you re pick.

Kekumba

01-04-2009, 12:43 AM

Never been apart of an atmosphere like that. Man oh man that was amazing. I didn't think it could get any better than the US game, but it did. :yo:

Zine

01-04-2009, 12:44 AM

You aren't for a second suggesting the WJC is not elite level tournament. I know you aren't.

Elite for this age level...of course. But that doesn't dismiss the fact that they're still kids prone to making stupid mistakes.

Michael Scott_*

01-04-2009, 12:45 AM

Hats off to the Russians they were in one he'll of a hockey game. I don't agree in having a shootout in such a highstakes game though, and I can't wait till Grachev is on the Rangers next year.

Pauser

01-04-2009, 12:46 AM

Elite for this age level...of course. But that doesn't dismiss the fact that they're still kids prone to making stupid mistakes.

These games have been far more entertaining than what I've seen from the NHLers.

Maurice Richard*

01-04-2009, 12:47 AM

No i have never played an elite level as the WJC , i have played for rep teams through minor hockey and did try out for the Pembroke Lumber KIngs Jr A way back when (ime 47) and didnt make it .I have been associated with junior players in the WHL and BCJHL , and these kids are kids by age only .
I have to stand by what i said ..its basic , the most basic thing you learn in minor hockey is dont ice the puck with time running out and your nursing a lead , he could of chipped it against the boards in the neutral zone ..he was at his own blue line and he had split the canadian D at least that is what i saw on the hilites and live ...he screwed up and it cost his team .Even his own teammates wouldnt look at him , i guess we will never agree , but thats ok :nod:

AVSfan2daMAX

01-04-2009, 12:48 AM

Elite for this age level...of course. But that doesn't dismiss the fact that they're still kids prone to making stupid mistakes.
There's kids playing in the KHL. Does that mean the KHL isn't elite? How about the SEL? Or the NHL?

NyQuil

01-04-2009, 12:49 AM

These games have been far more entertaining than what I've seen from the NHLers.

I'm a Sens fan.

I haven't seen anything this exciting and offensively skilled all season long.

Pauser

01-04-2009, 12:51 AM

I'm a Sens fan.

I haven't seen anything this exciting and offensively skilled all season long.

That's why :naughty::p:

But no, I'm a Canucks fan and neither have I.

Maurice Richard*

01-04-2009, 01:00 AM

Ime a Habs fan so i have been watching russians all year but none that played as hard as these "children "did today (except MARKOV)

C For Choke

01-04-2009, 01:05 AM

That game should never have gone to OT, much less a shootout. Toharski let in some of the weakest goals I've ever seen. Sadly, I can't see us not putting him in against Sweden, seeing as he was in net for two of the biggest wins. Then again, had he been at least half-decent, I probably wouldn't be having chest pains each time he faced a shot.

Zine

01-04-2009, 01:07 AM

The difference is that Canada doesn't treat this tournament or its players like kids.

Agreed.....and this is basically the difference bewtween us (and why Canada is so successful at this tourney IMO).
For many of us the WJC is a great hockey tournament and we want to win but it's not a live and die situation essential for national identity purposes.

Because of this, I guess some of us are more willing to give a 'free pass' to kids who screw up. However, if this was the olympics or WC I'd be irate.

Anyhow, like I said in another post though, you guys should be commended for your enthusiasm for this tourney.:handclap:

Maurice Richard*

01-04-2009, 01:10 AM

Yeah its a tough desicion , if you put the cold guy in and he stinks out the joint you are dead but with sweden having the greatest goalie in hockey history if Tokarski gives up some soft ones then you are dead because how do you come back on gods gift to goaltending ???
Actually after all that i have read about the swedish puckstopper on the boards how the hell did anybody score on him at all in this tourney????
Maybe , just maybe we might have a chance ;)

Pauser

01-04-2009, 01:11 AM

Agreed.....and this is basically the difference bewtween us (and why Canada is so successful at this tourney IMO).
For many of us the WJC is a great hockey tournament and we want to win but it's not a live and die situation essential for national identity purposes.

Because of this, I guess some of us are more willing to give a 'free pass' to kids who screw up. However, if this was the olympics or WC I'd be irate.

Anyhow, like I said in another post though, you guys should be commended for your enthusiasm for this tourney.:handclap:

This is why Canada keeps winning, and this is why Canada is the best hockey player developing nation in the world.

buddahsmoka1

01-04-2009, 01:12 AM

C For Choke

01-04-2009, 01:12 AM

Does anyone know of any loophole that would allow Slovak goalies to play for Canada?

Pauser

01-04-2009, 01:14 AM

What?

I sense sarcasm.

Pauser

01-04-2009, 01:15 AM

Does anyone know of any loophole that would allow Slovak goalies to play for Canada?

Dress him up in Tokarski's jersey?

ranndino

01-04-2009, 01:17 AM

This was one of the most exciting games I have ever seen in my entire life. I was close to having a massive heart failure. I have finally calmed down after what was a crushing defeat for the team I supported. What a way to lose for Russia! We were just 5 seconds away from winning it. I knew something bad was gonna happen when we couldn't get the puck out of the zone with 12 sec left after 3 tries. Also, that icing... Urgghhh... The kid could have easily skated over the red line before taking the shot, but panicked.

I posted a few messages after the 2nd period as I was angry at the officiating. I thought they were brutal in that period calling 3 phantom penalties on Russia. Then of course the Canadians went nuts over having a few penalties called on them in the 3rd.

Grachev, who was disappointing prior to the last game vs. the Czechs (mishandling the puck a lot and missing some empty nets) was a beast today and deserved being named player of the game for Russia.

Goncharov looks very close to being NHL ready. Voinov had a bit of a tough game with a number of bad giveaways after holding onto the puck too long.

I have to give props to Eberle. To pull a deke like that in the dying moments of an elimination game with the crowd going crazy... That's balls! Most guys would have just shot there and it would have probably been saved, but he made a great move.

PK Subban got a lot of crap from the Canadian announcers and fans on here, but as a Russian I love the way he plays. He's creative, skillful and fast. Yeah, he made some mistakes, but he also made some amazing plays.

Finally, to the dork who replied to my game post saying that I'm pathetic for complaining about delay of game and too many men on the ice penalties... You're an idiot. It's obvious those were not the penalties I was complaining about. I even said so in my post. So nice job twisting what I said upside down, pretending that's what I said and then criticizing it. You're the one who's pathetic.

To the other guy... Tavares never got hit with the stick in the face on that face-off. Watch that play again. His helmet collided with the Russian player's helmet and he snapped his head back and fell backwards in dramatic fashion. It was a 100% dive, something good ol' Canadian boys supposedly don't do. PK Subban also took a pathetic dive after getting shoved away from the Russian goalie once. Fortunately, in that case, the refs didn't bite. I can see that they're now showing Serie A (the Italian soccer league) in Canada and your boys have learned a few tricks.

Anyway, congrats to Canada, but as a Russian fan that really stung. Great game anyway. This is why I love WJC and international hockey in general.

Zine

01-04-2009, 01:17 AM

Ime a Habs fan so i have been watching russians all year but none that played as hard as these "children "did today (except MARKOV)

Speaking about Russians playing with 'heart' perhaps you missed the recent world championships in (Halifax/Quebec City).;)

Pauser

01-04-2009, 01:33 AM

TheLeastOfTheBunch

01-04-2009, 01:34 AM

Chileiceman

01-04-2009, 01:36 AM

All I gotta add to this discussion is that that was one heck of a hockey game. Props to both teams, too bad both couldn't win :)

Looking forward to the final.

Pauser

01-04-2009, 01:37 AM

Who were the best players for each team in your opinion guys? How was Nikita Filatov and Chris DiDomenico? Must have been pretty nail biting with the game heading for a shootout. How was Dustin Tokarski btw? Thanks. Much appreciated.

Tokarski blew the cosmic hotdog. Was horrendous throughout the game.

Filatov was okay but didn't really do a whole lot. Didomenico was pretty much invisible, as were most of the Canadian players.

Eberle was Canada's best player, adn I'd say Grachev for Russia (both won the awards).

Scipio Africanus

01-04-2009, 01:39 AM

even if i did, how so? Sweden did it when Froppa score in the shootout to win it for sweden. U.S put the king of rock in a stamp, take you re pick.

Sad that I have to point out to you that the goal won nothing for the country but a berth in the final. It also didn't even win the game.

Forsberg's goal gave Sweden a world championship in the most lauded international sports stage, and Elvis was the one of the most influential musicians of the 20th century.

By the way, not a single US sports media outlet on television covered the Canada-Russia game. Considering that the NHL is nothing without US support for the sport, I think it speaks volumes of how most Americans truly could care less if we win or lose, let alone Canada or Russia

Zine

01-04-2009, 01:50 AM

Weren't 3 phantom calls. Tavares got clipped, the Russian threw the Canadian player down (tackled him), and DiDomenico (I think it was him) got clipped behind the Russian net. All 3 were good calls.

The Tavares call was very weak. His helmet just hit Grachev's and he went down like he was shot.......shouldv'e gone to the box for embellishment. Likewise, Russia got away with some penalties late in the 3rd. I remember Chudinov headhunting.

Overall it was a good called game though.

znk

01-04-2009, 01:55 AM

Wait, what? When has the WJC ever been elite level hockey?.......these are just kids; many of whome will end up career minor leagers.

Now if was during the olympics or Stanley Cup and someone did that you'd have a point......but it's not.

It's the worlds best U20 players. Brilliant post there. Did it hurt?

Zine

01-04-2009, 01:56 AM

Who were the best players for each team in your opinion guys? How was Nikita Filatov and Chris DiDomenico? Must have been pretty nail biting with the game heading for a shootout. How was Dustin Tokarski btw? Thanks. Much appreciated.

Filatov and Tavares.....meh.

Eberle was a monster. Very impressed with Subban. Hogdson looked steady.
Goncharov, Andronov, Kugryshev and Grachev were good for Russia. Kulikov was pretty bad IMO.

Tokarski was bad. Zhelobnyuk better but was garbage in the shootout.

AndersEriksson*

01-04-2009, 02:03 AM

Didn't a majority of Canadian posters say Russia wasn't a real test after Sweden beat them? Congrats on the reality check.

Tripwyre

01-04-2009, 02:08 AM

Didn't a majority of Canadian posters say Russia wasn't a real test after Sweden beat them? Congrats on the reality check.

Didn't help that Tokarski was ****ing terrible.

snolan83

01-04-2009, 02:13 AM

Hats off to the Russians they were in one he'll of a hockey game. I don't agree in having a shootout in such a highstakes game though, and I can't wait till Grachev is on the Rangers next year.

I'm actually surprised at the way they do the shootout, I sort of wish it was 5 shooters if they have to do a shootout.

That game play was intense so I have to agree, shoot-outs seem anticlimactic in a way.

Zine

01-04-2009, 02:19 AM

It's the worlds best U20 players. Brilliant post there. Did it hurt?

I'm only bitter in that you guys act like you've won the stanley cup. That's OK though, you can keep celebrating 'kids' tournaments.....we'll keep beating you when our men play.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0518/oly_ap_kovalchuk_300.jpg
http://images.theglobeandmail.com/archives/RTGAM/images/20060222/woly-can-rus22/russians_celebr.jpg

sorry, you left the door open, I couldn't resist:p:;)

Good game, congrats

AndersEriksson*

01-04-2009, 02:21 AM

Didn't help that Tokarski was ****ing terrible.

So other than the fact that your goalie sucks and you give up 4-5 goals per game, you're quite amazing? :laugh:

buddahsmoka1

01-04-2009, 02:28 AM

I'm only bitter in that you guys act like you've won the stanley cup. That's OK though, you can keep celebrating 'kids' tournaments.....we'll keep beating you when our men play.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0518/oly_ap_kovalchuk_300.jpg
http://images.theglobeandmail.com/archives/RTGAM/images/20060222/woly-can-rus22/russians_celebr.jpg

sorry, you left the door open, I couldn't resist:p:;)

Good game, congrats

Unbelievable, you say that the WJC is a meaningless and non-elite tournament, then you try to use THE WORLD CUP OF HOCKEY to mock us. How pathetic, next thing you know you'll be rubbing in Dynamo's win over Canada in the Splenger Cup as an important win in an elite tournament.

Caesium

01-04-2009, 02:28 AM

Didn't a majority of Canadian posters say Russia wasn't a real test after Sweden beat them? Congrats on the reality check.

Russia against Sweden wasn't a test. Russia simply did not show up for that game. They didn't display any intensity or desire to win that game at all.

Vader

01-04-2009, 02:30 AM

Sweden are bigger non factors than even USA.

Vader

01-04-2009, 02:31 AM

Unbelievable, you say that the WJC is a meaningless and non-elite tournament, then you try to use THE WORLD CUP OF HOCKEY to mock us. How pathetic, next thing you know you'll be rubbing in Dynamo's win over Canada in the Splenger Cup as an important win in an elite tournament.

Cry baby is crying. Zine that is.

Vader

01-04-2009, 02:34 AM

MastaK

01-04-2009, 02:36 AM

Wow, that was one of the greatest hockey game I've ever seen. Heck, it was one of the greatest sports game I've ever seen!

SSJTOM

01-04-2009, 02:40 AM

LOL @ Butthurt russians in this thread.

s0m3oNe

01-04-2009, 02:41 AM

I'm only bitter in that you guys act like you've won the stanley cup. That's OK though, you can keep celebrating 'kids' tournaments.....we'll keep beating you when our men play.

Really? Even the Russian fans are pretending they don't care after they've lost too?

ccliquer

01-04-2009, 02:41 AM

Didomenico was pretty much invisible, as were most of the Canadian players.

DiDomenico wasn't invisible. He drew three penalties on his own because of his strong play along the boards.

Caesium

01-04-2009, 02:44 AM

:shakehead Being gracious in victory is more important than being gracious in defeat. If the players can shake hands and move on, then the fans should too. Apologies to Russia, Sweden, and USA fans.

DAstles91

01-04-2009, 02:55 AM

Pauser

01-04-2009, 03:06 AM

Replay showing on TSN right now.

SENSational

01-04-2009, 03:12 AM

Just finished watching the game. Even though I obviously knew who won, my heart was pounding in that last minute :laugh: I still can't believe Mcguire didn't blow his load when Eberle scored. Amazing game.

VladNYC

01-04-2009, 03:19 AM

Klyukin is a curse word from now on in my house. When he iced it and started laughing, i knew we lost right there even though we were up by 1. ****ing moron. Once again, congrats Canada.

Dr Awesome

01-04-2009, 03:33 AM

Sad that I have to point out to you that the goal won nothing for the country but a berth in the final. It also didn't even win the game.

Forsberg's goal gave Sweden a world championship in the most lauded international sports stage, and Elvis was the one of the most influential musicians of the 20th century.

By the way, not a single US sports media outlet on television covered the Canada-Russia game. Considering that the NHL is nothing without US support for the sport, I think it speaks volumes of how most Americans truly could care less if we win or lose, let alone Canada or Russia

yes it did something Canada is in the finals and not playing for 3rd. canada has won 4 in a row and still has a chance to win 5. His goal not game winning but it was game saving. Not to mention the goal was clutch. less then 6 seconds left in the game. What does the NHL and U.S coverage on a hockey game have to do with the idea of possibly making a stamp in canada of a goal being scored.

I could go on and on but its just boring

and the only thing that is sad is you re sour grapes, so take some 1 ply tp dry up your tears

and go watch charlie and the chocolate factory and take a good listen to the song cheer up

Pauser

01-04-2009, 03:38 AM

Dr Awesome

01-04-2009, 03:40 AM

Didn't a majority of Canadian posters say Russia wasn't a real test after Sweden beat them? Congrats on the reality check.

I think I said Russia would get silver, and you can never count out Russia who is second in total gold medals.

buddahsmoka1

01-04-2009, 03:49 AM

Actually that was the 06 Olympics

LOL, I guess I should of noticed the olympic rings on the boards. But that even makes it funnier considering they didnt even win themselves.

Cloned

01-04-2009, 03:49 AM

Man, I feel bad for Filatov. Did anyone see the TSN clip with his interview?

He said something along the lines of "...it's unbelievable, you know, God was with Canada today."

This game was so epic.

DAstles91

01-04-2009, 03:56 AM

Man, I feel bad for Filatov. Did anyone see the TSN clip with his interview?

He said something along the lines of "...it's unbelievable, you know, God was with Canada today."

This game was so epic.

Everyone and their mother knows he should have been first in the shootout. I feel bad for the kid even as a Canadian you have to question why Filatov and Grachev aren't 1-2 in the shootout.

Canuck21t

01-04-2009, 03:57 AM

Congrats to Canada. Well done.

Good to see Russia finally standing up to Canada physically at the junior level. The Canucks seemed very suprised by the fact and it seemed to throw them off their game.

Apart from a few stupid decisions, I commend Nemchinov for a good game plan. Doesn't get him of the hook for a very poorly chosen roster though.....could've used that extra talent at the depth positions BIG TIME this game.
In case you forgot, this Canadian team is small, but you know us, big or small we play physical.

Once again, Russia lost because of selfishness. If that kid had skated a bit further to safely clear the zone instead of aiming at the empty net, Russia would have been the winning team, but alas...

DAstles91

01-04-2009, 04:01 AM

In case you forgot, this Canadian team is small, but you know us, big or small we play physical.

Once again, Russia lost because of selfishness. If that kid had skated a bit further to safely clear the zone instead of aiming at the empty net, Russia would have been the winning team, but alas...

I think this comment is unwarranted. Russia played a very unselfish game tonight and was unfortunate to lose. I feel that calling one individual out on a single play with less than a minute to go is unfair especially when these are still kids... how is he supposed to know he has enough time to skate up in such a pressure packed moment...

AgentNaslund*

01-04-2009, 04:06 AM

ottsens08

01-04-2009, 04:07 AM

Hockey-wise that was no better than the USA game but with that being said, as a fan that kept me on the edge of my seat the whole game. Russia played a fantastic game and if it weren't for a few minor gaffs it would have been a major win for them... the player who just fired it down the ice thinking he had no time... the failed clearing attempt on ryan ellis... the player infront of the net who couldnt coral the puck... all of these things would have lead to a russian victory. exciting as hell but canada is lucky to be in this position. I agree with you a 110% my man, let's give russia it due they deserve to win that game more than canada but couldn't close the deal. Canada always find a way to win those type of game its amazing really when you think about it. And the shootout is a lousy way to decide a playoff game.

Pauser

01-04-2009, 04:23 AM

I'm watching the Canada/Russia repeat game and how anyone can defend the Russian player on that holding call in the 2nd period, I have no idea. He clearly took his hand off the stick and reached around and grabbed the Canadian player. That, by definition, is holding. I've seen holding calls where all the player did was put one hand on the other guys jersey. This was blatantly holding.

DAstles91

01-04-2009, 04:26 AM

Pauser

01-04-2009, 04:31 AM

i dont think that call was ever in question... was it?

People (non-Canadians) were disputing it. Also the high stick on Didomenico clearly hit his throat, which by definition is a high stick. Another penalty that was a good call that people were disputing.

Vilela

01-04-2009, 04:33 AM

Heart, boys.... Thats what you call this! Canada never gave up, they kept coming 'til the very end and it proved worthy of a teams passion and will to win. Incredible!

dmacgreg37

01-04-2009, 04:52 AM

Gord Millers Chin

01-04-2009, 04:58 AM

Klyukin didn't ice the puck. He laughed, but it was Klopov who iced the puck, shooting for the open net.

I noticed that, too.

Klyukin was laughing, TSN showed him. But Klopov iced the puck.

VaNc3y

01-04-2009, 05:30 AM

Klyukin is a curse word from now on in my house. When he iced it and started laughing, i knew we lost right there even though we were up by 1. ****ing moron. Once again, congrats Canada.

a russian fan, with class, congratulating canada. imagine that..AND not blaming refereeing.. some other people should take notes.

what a great game it was tho, obviously i was happier that canada won than i would of been if they lost, but that was entertainment at it's absolute finest.

i felt for the russian players they gave us everything we could handle and than some.. my head was down and stomach hurt in that last 10 seconds until ellis held that puck at the line.. i just had a gut feeling something would come of it.. as soon as canada tied the game i knew we would win however i thought it would be in overtime once the overtime was finished and it went to a shootout i was very thankful that north america has introduced the shootout into our game otherwise it would have been lights out.. i still wonder what would have happened in 1994? or 98? when we lost that infamous shootout to sweden what would have happened than if the nhl had already introduced the shootout.

VaNc3y

01-04-2009, 05:33 AM

Heart, boys.... Thats what you call this! Canada never gave up, they kept coming 'til the very end and it proved worthy of a teams passion and will to win. Incredible!

post of the year.. and 110% correct... living proof why you fight to the bitter end:handclap:

SelKesler

01-04-2009, 06:15 AM

I noticed that, too.

Klyukin was laughing, TSN showed him. But Klopov iced the puck.

If he hadn't chugged a 2-6 of Vodka before the game and knew what was going on, he wouldn't have been laughing.

jayjay54

01-04-2009, 08:31 AM

i was at the game last night, and that had to be the most entertaining game i've ever been to. When we scored with 5 seconds to go the place went crazy. awesome, just awesome.

PensFan101

01-04-2009, 09:31 AM

jcorb58

01-04-2009, 09:41 AM

Does anyone know of any loophole that would allow Slovak goalies to play for Canada?

:handclap::handclap::handclap:

usual suspects

01-04-2009, 09:46 AM

That was a great game and this tournament has really surprised me. The medal rounds have redeemed what I felt was a pretty boring and predictable medal round (only Canada/US, Slovakia/Finland, and Russia/Sweden provided a lot of surprise or entertainment value for me).

I felt really bad for the Russians, and had that feeling the icing play with 40 seconds left would cost them. They gave Canada all they could handle, and once again exposed our defense and goalie who just aren't playing to their potential as a unit. Kulikov must have felt terrible when Eberle stripped him of the puck and scored the tying goal... That one will hurt for a long time.

But somehow Canada pulls out another win. The shootout was disappointing, and despite the sentiment that the Canada/US shootout two years ago is a reason to have shootouts, a game like the one we saw last night deserved more Overtime than anything else. I still think Sweden has the edge heading into the final, Slovakia was the only team that showed any weakness in their game, and save Janus they have the best goalie in the tournament. It should be a really good game though.

As much as I love the WJC, I hate some of the Canadian fans who act like Canada is the undisputed best country at this tournament and are seemingly blinded by nationalism and various other factors to even consider otherwise. I think this thread among others is an example of that at times.

agree 100%, its embarassing to read some of what people write on this board. It's a a hockey game. We as a country are one of the best at hockey and we need to realize we are not the only ones. We are not entitled to anything and must work for it. I can't stand reading the cocky remarks made by Canadians.

Canada has got their work cut out for them. The entire defense needs to communicate better and make better decisions overall. They need to be reminded that simple plays are sometimes better (are you listening PK Subban- you have been playing great but could of really messed things up) Sweden will eat them alive if they play like they did against Russia. Also Tokarski needs to match Markstrom save for save, if the goaltending and defense can't get things worked out it will be over quick.

jcorb58

01-04-2009, 09:50 AM

Well you cant blame him on that one play....... you might as well blame that defencemen who left Ennis wide opened.

Dont you mean Eberle wide open?

jcorb58

01-04-2009, 10:17 AM

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agree 100%, its embarassing to read some of what people write on this board. It's a a hockey game. We as a country are one of the best at hockey and we need to realize we are not the only ones. We are not entitled to anything and must work for it. I can't stand reading the cocky remarks made by Canadians.

Canada has got their work cut out for them. The entire defense needs to communicate better and make better decisions overall. They need to be reminded that simple plays are sometimes better (are you listening PK Subban- you have been playing great but could of really messed things up) Sweden will eat them alive if they play like they did against Russia. Also Tokarski needs to match Markstrom save for save, if the goaltending and defense can't get things worked out it will be over quick.

And it is pathetic to assume Sweden is so much more superior to us because of Markstrom, They didnt out score us in the pretourney game our goalie made some saves. Markstrom is the best goalie in the tourney but he was scored on by the Slovaks. If we lose Monday then they deserve it but lets play the game first. Several Swedish posters have said we dont stand a chance with our defence and goaltending and we are just responding to their cockiness. One guy said he is not worried about playing Canada or Russia. I think the Swedes will have their hands full, We played like crap and were lucky to beat Russia. I think we got our reality check. Full marks to the Russians they should of won. But untill the Swedes beat us we are the defending champs. Did we get any NHL players released for this tourney? They have guys from the SEL and Moller (NHL). Which makes me wonder, if this tournament doesnt mean anything anywhere but in Canada why are the SEL teams willing to release their players. We got a team made up of CHL players. If this was truely our best under 20 players we wouldnt be worried about our scoring or our defence. Not having our best NHL under 20 gives teams like Sweden a chance. Thats not cocky, thats fact. Cocky is saying you are going to have no problem beating us when you havent yet.

If Team Sweden beats us then i will be the first to say congratulations to them, but lets play the game first. It wont be an easy battle for either team.

Dima87*

01-04-2009, 10:36 AM

Such a typical way for Russia to lose, such a typical way for Canada to win. No I'm not talking about officiating or anything like that, just the very end of the game.

67Cup

01-04-2009, 11:38 AM

There are trash talkers from every country and every sports club I know of. The best thing to do is to ignore them.

The Canada Russia game was very, very exciting but not, to be really honest, well played. There were a huge number of brain cramp plays, mostly by Canada, though the icing with 40 seconds to go may have been the biggest brain cramp of all. Still, these are teenagers and what else can be expected?

Throw this one out and throw out the exhibition game with Sweden when they were probably still jet lagged. Neither is a useful predictor of the gold medal final. I'm looking forward to a great game.

leafs in five

01-04-2009, 12:41 PM

as much as I wanted Canada to win it was tough seeing the Russian goalie and some of their players' reactions. it was said in the second GDT that they played their hearts out, played well enough to win certainly. last thing i gotta say is Filatov is a strikingly good-looking kid. kinda has me feeling like the dude who wears the weird hats in 30 rock.

Maurice Richard*

01-04-2009, 12:52 PM

He looks like a girl .Didnt Elton John write a song about him and Nikita and nights holding hands under the Moscow moon .

#11_THEBEST!

01-04-2009, 01:14 PM

Actually, I'm happy with 4 straight Gold Medals......8 consecutive Finals apparances and 11 straight medals. Even if we don't win on Monday [which I don't think we will considering our defense and goaltending], I'll still be happy with the result.

Sweden doesn't have a Gold Medal since 1981[?] and they will be pretty happy if they finally win it.

TheCH

01-04-2009, 01:23 PM

As much as I love the WJC, I hate some of the Canadian fans who act like Canada is the undisputed best country at this tournament and are seemingly blinded by nationalism and various other factors to even consider otherwise. I think this thread among others is an example of that at times.

Oh give me a break, americans would never be like that with basketball now would they?

Come on, there is no doubt that Canada pwns at this tournament, they have the track record to prove it. I am not trying to sound cocky or anything, but it is fact. Just like americans pwn basketball(even though they have lost just like Canada has in hockey. But both countries are still the odds on favorites at their respective sports).

Analyzer

01-04-2009, 01:52 PM

Such a typical way for Russia to lose, such a typical way for Canada to win. No I'm not talking about officiating or anything like that, just the very end of the game.

Russia and Canada like to play each other with some last minute dramatics.

I, like everyone else was like "****, we lost. Go Slovakia!" Then Eberle scored and I like kicked my coffee table over and almost dropped my laptop.

I swear, only a few of us (canadians) Thought playing the Russians wouldn't be as easy as people thought. Everyone was like "Oh, it's Canada Vs Sweden, blah, blah blah." You can never count Russia out... Unless they would have played Alistratov (sp?) then it might have been easier, without all this, I'm-only-20-and-this-game-almost-gave-me-a-heart-attack-dramatics.

Well played, Russia, good luck against Slovakia, they seem like a handful. I knew Janus should have been picked last year.

Canuck21t

01-04-2009, 02:25 PM

I think this comment is unwarranted. Russia played a very unselfish game tonight and was unfortunate to lose. I feel that calling one individual out on a single play with less than a minute to go is unfair especially when these are still kids... how is he supposed to know he has enough time to skate up in such a pressure packed moment...
As a whole, Russia was not selfish and I think it's because this year's team is not that talented. They have some good players, but no one really special, else that special player will try to single handedly score by himself like usual. Even as a whole they played like a team, this one typical individualistic moment cost them the Gold-medal game. When I saw one of their players laugh after the missing empty net, I thought something was really wrong.

Caged Wisdom

01-04-2009, 02:36 PM

As a whole, Russia was not selfish and I think it's because this year's team is not that talented. They have some good players, but no one really special, else that special player will try to single handedly score by himself like usual. Even as a whole they played like a team, this one typical individualistic moment cost them the Gold-medal game. When I saw one of their players laugh after the missing empty net, I thought something was really wrong.

Yeah, that is the thing I found weird. I could never understand why the Russian player could be laughing after making a basic mistake in hockey, with the gold medal game in their grasp.

TheCH

01-04-2009, 02:52 PM

As a whole, Russia was not selfish and I think it's because this year's team is not that talented. They have some good players, but no one really special, else that special player will try to single handedly score by himself like usual. Even as a whole they played like a team, this one typical individualistic moment cost them the Gold-medal game. When I saw one of their players laugh after the missing empty net, I thought something was really wrong.

That wasn't an individualistic moment, more like a nervous kid who wasn't completely aware of his surroundings that thought he had less time then he actually did. He made the wrong decision, like i am sure every one of us has done several times in our lives.

SK13

01-04-2009, 03:04 PM

Sorry, but I would put Kozlov out over Kovalchuk, Wolski over Stastny, Gagner over Hemsky, Letang over Crosby, etc. You cant always go with your best player.

Some players just have that shootout knack.

Hemsky's probably a better bet than Gagner since Gagner's one big move stopped working. Other then that, I agree with you. Gotta go with who's better at the shootout, not hockey.

Pisani is probably a better bet then either of them.

El Diego

01-04-2009, 03:27 PM

Ryan Ellis had a sub par game in my eyes but man, when he kept that puck in before the Eberle goal WOW that was a HUGE play and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it in this thread. I have no idea how that puck stayed in the zone.

Pauser

01-04-2009, 03:31 PM

Paxton Fettel

01-04-2009, 04:15 PM

Canada IS the best hockey nation in the world.

sure. the team that reached the Olympic final once in like 3 attempts.:handclap:

Talus

01-04-2009, 04:17 PM

Klyukin is a curse word from now on in my house. When he iced it and started laughing, i knew we lost right there even though we were up by 1. ****ing moron. Once again, congrats Canada.

You are a good sport VladNYC. Russian hockey is wonderful to watch,a game that could have gone either way. You guys are our nemesis we never know what to expect. Every time we play you I get excited, never mind the Americans. It's the Russia and Canada.

Talus

01-04-2009, 04:23 PM

navarz

01-04-2009, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by APStyleGuide99
Sad that I have to point out to you that the goal won nothing for the country but a berth in the final. It also didn't even win the game.

Forsberg's goal gave Sweden a world championship in the most lauded international sports stage, and Elvis was the one of the most influential musicians of the 20th century.

By the way, not a single US sports media outlet on television covered the Canada-Russia game. Considering that the NHL is nothing without US support for the sport, I think it speaks volumes of how most Americans truly could care less if we win or lose, let alone Canada or Russia

The NHL does not need the US. The NHL could expand into Europe Quite easily.
The WJC is great exciting hockey whether Canada wins or loses.
Us media. Who cares If the world does not revolve around them they never have intrest. They like to keep americans in there little bubble and it is to bad americans are kept from exciting brands of sports and international events.

Pauser

01-04-2009, 05:33 PM

sure. the team that reached the Olympic final once in like 3 attempts.:handclap:

That's because of the way those teams are built. But you cannot argue with the depth of elite players Canada produces, and it is unmatched by any country in the world.

It's simple, Canadians are the best at hockey.

binary0x01

01-04-2009, 05:59 PM

Canada IS the best hockey nation in the world.

Laf, not even...

Hockey isn't sport #1 in Russia, Football (soccer) is. And they're still tops.

Canada got 2 5 on 3s, and Russia had half the game in penalty box, and played the day before and still got the lead.

2 Lucky bounces for Canada off of Russian players, and a NHL size rink which doesn't work for the Russians as well.

Basically, enjoy it while it lasts.. cause hokcey is picking up in Russia once again.

Game over.

Darth Sidious*

01-04-2009, 06:08 PM

ronnyweed

01-04-2009, 06:14 PM

Zine

01-04-2009, 06:19 PM

That's because of the way those teams are built. But you cannot argue with the depth of elite players Canada produces, and it is unmatched by any country in the world.

It's simple, Canadians are the best at hockey.

Poorly chosen teams are no excuse as everybody can say the same thing in hindsight.

Canada is unquestionably the best country for producing depth of elite talent. However, how can you claim to be the undisputed #1 country when your "A" team has proven itself to be basically only at .500 level the last decade and a half?

C'mon.....be happy with a well deserved victory. No reason to turn this into a flame fest.

Darth Sidious*

01-04-2009, 06:20 PM

ya well it better pick up better because your 0 gold medals from your junior players lately suggests otherwise... your going for bronze this year, which is in fact worse than your previous years results.

The Russians seem like they are #1 at making excuses though.

octopi

01-04-2009, 06:52 PM

usual suspects

01-04-2009, 07:48 PM

And it is pathetic to assume Sweden is so much more superior to us because of Markstrom, They didnt out score us in the pretourney game our goalie made some saves. Markstrom is the best goalie in the tourney but he was scored on by the Slovaks. If we lose Monday then they deserve it but lets play the game first. Several Swedish posters have said we dont stand a chance with our defence and goaltending and we are just responding to their cockiness. One guy said he is not worried about playing Canada or Russia. I think the Swedes will have their hands full, We played like crap and were lucky to beat Russia. I think we got our reality check. Full marks to the Russians they should of won. But untill the Swedes beat us we are the defending champs. Did we get any NHL players released for this tourney? They have guys from the SEL and Moller (NHL). Which makes me wonder, if this tournament doesnt mean anything anywhere but in Canada why are the SEL teams willing to release their players. We got a team made up of CHL players. If this was truely our best under 20 players we wouldnt be worried about our scoring or our defence. Not having our best NHL under 20 gives teams like Sweden a chance. Thats not cocky, thats fact. Cocky is saying you are going to have no problem beating us when you havent yet.

If Team Sweden beats us then i will be the first to say congratulations to them, but lets play the game first. It wont be an easy battle for either team.

Pathetic-?-not sure if this directed at me since you quoted my post.

But for the record I never said Sweden was superior to Canada. My point was if the Canadian defense plays the way it did against Russia and our goaltending continues to play the same then I think we will be in trouble.

I haven't read the threads since the Russia/Canada game was over. Now if the Swedish fans on this board are saying we have no chance that is absurd. Never count Canada out.

Anyways, I'm not interested in getting tangled into a worthless pissing match between Canadian and Swedish fans.

Go Canada! Go Tavares!

binary0x01

01-04-2009, 08:32 PM

That doesn't mean squat.

Russia only has 24 players in the NHL cuz they're afraid to draft em since they don't want to play in the pos AHL or CHL leagues.

Also Russia has the highest percentage of top players.

Laf.

Darth Sidious*

01-04-2009, 08:45 PM

therealdeal

01-04-2009, 08:48 PM

I thought that the USA Canada game could not be beat.

I was wrong. :yo:

Pauser

01-04-2009, 08:48 PM

Canada also had 8 eligible players in the NHL. I think that speaks loudly of the depth of quality players Canada has. Not to mention Canada's 4 straight gold medals at the WJC.

How many eligible players did Russia have in the NHL again?

::edit::

Laf.

What he said

AgentNaslund*

01-04-2009, 08:49 PM

Pauser

01-04-2009, 08:50 PM

Poorly chosen teams are no excuse as everybody can say the same thing in hindsight.

Canada is unquestionably the best country for producing depth of elite talent. However, how can you claim to be the undisputed #1 country when your "A" team has proven itself to be basically only at .500 level the last decade and a half?

C'mon.....be happy with a well deserved victory. No reason to turn this into a flame fest.

http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/championships/world-ranking/mens-world-ranking/2008-ranking.html

Canada is ranked number 1 in the world by IIHF.

CrosbyCrosby

01-04-2009, 08:51 PM

the AHL is better than all the crappy euro leagues but the pay is much less. the reason russians have such a high percentage of top players in the league is because those players are actually good enough to play well and make money in the NHL while the other russian players suck too much and dont want to be making less in a lesser role.

Pauser

01-04-2009, 08:52 PM

Maurice Richard*

01-04-2009, 09:45 PM

Unless its Montreal .

Zine

01-04-2009, 10:31 PM

http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/championships/world-ranking/mens-world-ranking/2008-ranking.html

Canada is ranked number 1 in the world by IIHF.

Those rankings are based mostly off the world championships. IIHF rankings are more flawed than UEFA’s; but more power too you if you believe them.

It’s understandable that you feel need to talk smack about the WJC when the absolute best you have to offer can’t even score a goal against us……or against Finland…..or even against Switzerland.:joker:

But, but, but, when we lose we don’t pick the right players.:cry::sarcasm:

Pauser

01-04-2009, 10:32 PM

Those rankings are based mostly off the world championships. IIHF rankings are more flawed than UEFA’s; but more power too you if you believe them.

It’s understandable that you feel need to talk smack about the WJC when the absolute best you have to offer can’t even score a goal against us……or against Finland…..or even against Switzerland.:joker:

But, but, but, when we lose we don’t pick the right players.:cry::sarcasm:

2010...the Grand Forks team will be there ;)

syc

01-04-2009, 10:56 PM

Laf, not even...

Hockey isn't sport #1 in Russia, Football (soccer) is. And they're still tops.

Yet countries like Holland with only 15 million people can produce just as good if not better soccer players then Russia. The only explanation is Russias soccer system is weak and their hockey system is strong. You would think they would want to be dominant at the sport they play the most.

gg

SENSational

01-04-2009, 11:28 PM

SSJTOM

01-04-2009, 11:30 PM

When was the last time Russia won either the Olympics or the World Cup and when was the last time Canada won? Thats what I thought.

bu bu bu bu IIHF rankings don't count! :cry:

THIS.

TheDanceOfMaternity

01-04-2009, 11:31 PM

therealdeal

01-05-2009, 12:00 AM

Canuck21t

01-05-2009, 12:57 AM

Laf, not even...

Hockey isn't sport #1 in Russia, Football (soccer) is. And they're still tops.

Canada got 2 5 on 3s, and Russia had half the game in penalty box, and played the day before and still got the lead.

2 Lucky bounces for Canada off of Russian players, and a NHL size rink which doesn't work for the Russians as well.

Basically, enjoy it while it lasts.. cause hokcey is picking up in Russia once again.

Game over.
Football (soccer) is the #1 sport in Russia and how good are you in that sport? That #1 sport fact doesn't always equal the performance.

Don't use the NHL rink size as an excuse, Canada also wins on European rink size so Russia should be able to do the same and you do, you've won on our rink size before. It only takes a few games to adjust on a good team.

Hockey is picking up in Russia, but the skill of Canadians have improved a lot since the '90s too. I've never considered Russia as an inferior hockey country anyway, you're our equal and this semi-final game is proof of that.