Guys like Janus, Tatar, Bezak & Valach...

Habsfan18
01-03-2009, 04:41 PM
How much has their stock risen due to this tournament?

Can you see any of these players drafted this summer?

slovakiaforever
01-03-2009, 04:46 PM
I´m not sure about Janus and Bezak, but Tatar would probably get drafted anyway, but he´ll probably be taken earlier as he would without the tournament....

Canuck71
01-03-2009, 04:49 PM
I would have to think Tomas Tatar will be drafted with the tournament he has put on and this year is also his first year of draft eligibility. He has been a pretty dominant player for Slovakia this tournament and IMO has outplayed Richard Panik who is a highly regarded NHL draft eligible prospect.

Pierre McGuire just said one second ago that Jaroslav Janus should get an agent because he's going to get drafted this year. I don't know if I particularly agree with that statement but it is entirely possible that an NHL team will take a chance on Janus in the later rounds. He hasn't exactly been over impressive in the OHL and isn't very consistent. Hopefully this tournament changes things for him.

Schenn Him
01-03-2009, 05:03 PM
I can't see Janus not getting drafted. He won't go early, unless he lights it up in the OHL for the second half, but he will definitely get picked. He's shown too much in this tournament not to be worth a late round flyer.

Tatar has been really impressive. I hadn't heard much about him coming in, but he has been a difference maker for the Slovaks. Definite offensive spark.

Jackie Moon
01-03-2009, 05:10 PM
I think Tatar could be like Karlsson who had his stock rise sigificantly becasue of his performance at the WJC, IIRC.

Chootoi
01-03-2009, 05:45 PM
bezak played on the second worst team in the Q last year and couldn't keep up. moncton didn't bring him back this year. he was very unimpressive during his stint.

looks like he's upped his game though since last year.

Pauser
01-03-2009, 05:46 PM
I think all 3 should be picked up, if anything based on this tournament alone. You can't tell me that in the 6th or 7th rounds that teams would go with guys who have shown less than these players.

Jason MacIsaac
01-03-2009, 05:52 PM
Honestly, from previous tourneys, the way Tatar plays and the skill he shows, he would be a late 1st rounder for me. I haven't followed him at all but he has the skill set, the shot and the hunger of a first rounder. I don't care if he was ranked 7th round before this tourney.

AgentNaslund*
01-03-2009, 05:57 PM
I dont see much NHL potential in Tatar. Tartar will probably be drafted in the later rounds.

Pauser
01-03-2009, 06:00 PM
If I were an NHL GM, based on who's in the draft in 09, if Janus was around in round 4 or 5 I wouldn't think twice about taking him off the board.

hemskyforpm
01-03-2009, 06:08 PM
If Kytnar can get drafted, there sure as hell is a chance for them.

Schenn Him
01-03-2009, 06:13 PM
bezak played on the second worst team in the Q last year and couldn't keep up. moncton didn't bring him back this year. he was very unimpressive during his stint.

looks like he's upped his game though since last year.

I think he was the guy they were talking about during the broadcast. He played in the CHL last year, but was told if he didn't come home, he probably wouldn't make the world junior team. Miller said it was likely that he would be rejoining the CHL after this tournament.

jcbio11
01-03-2009, 06:13 PM
Tatar will be probably get drafted in the later rounds. This is the first year he is eligible too. Janus will also get drafted in the later rounds. Low risk - possible high return. Bezak, not so sure.

slovakiaforever
01-03-2009, 06:16 PM
I think he was the guy they were talking about during the broadcast. He played in the CHL last year, but was told if he didn't come home, he probably wouldn't make the world junior team. Miller said it was likely that he would be rejoining the CHL after this tournament.

I doubt it, he´ll probably be playing in SLovan after the tournament with which he started the season but for some to me unknown reason was send to the SVK U20 team.....I´m sure he´ll choose playing for one of the top teams in the Slovak leagues, especially since it´s Slovan, they´re junior players just don´t make the men´s team, so he´s special...

sleeper cab
01-03-2009, 06:19 PM
If Kytnar can get drafted, there sure as hell is a chance for them.

already drafted by the oilers i believe

IslesDynasty
01-03-2009, 06:22 PM
I actually think Tatar could be a high second rounder. I'm sure he'll have a few more eyes on him back in Slovakia after this tournament and if he keeps impressing the scouts he must be picked in the higher rounds.

hemskyforpm
01-03-2009, 06:22 PM
already drafted by the oilers i believe

Exactly my point. I'm an Oilers fan.

Lucbourdon
01-03-2009, 06:23 PM
I actually think Tatar could be a high second rounder. I'm sure he'll have a few more eyes on him back in Slovakia after this tournament and if he keeps impressing the scouts he must be picked in the higher rounds.

Bingo

I think 2nd round 1-10th pickish.

Remember he can come back next year!
and be a real star like this year.

There is NO way janus wont get drafted after this, i say late 3rd or fourth round.

sleeper cab
01-03-2009, 06:31 PM
Exactly my point. I'm an Oilers fan.

my bad, misread your post

Kamzik
01-03-2009, 06:42 PM
bezak played on the second worst team in the Q last year and couldn't keep up. moncton didn't bring him back this year. he was very unimpressive during his stint.

looks like he's upped his game though since last year.

Moncton asked Bezak to come back but Bezak opted to play for the Slovak U20 team in the extraliga. I have heard Bezak will play for Moncton after this tournament ends.

Kamzik
01-03-2009, 06:49 PM
I dont see much NHL potential in Tatar. Tartar will probably be drafted in the later rounds.

It's better to watch the games without something covering your face so you can actually see the game and the players. That way you can avoid making stupid comments.

Kamzik
01-03-2009, 07:07 PM
Marek Hrivik shouldn't be ignored either. Youngest player on the Slovak team, he certainly had his moments against Latvia and USA.

Chootoi
01-03-2009, 08:16 PM
Moncton asked Bezak to come back but Bezak opted to play for the Slovak U20 team in the extraliga. I have heard Bezak will play for Moncton after this tournament ends.

i don't see how this is possible. they currently own the rights to 2 euros. they just traded for mitch morgan (belgium??) and they also own the rights to voinov from russia. they don't own bezak's rights any more.

can CHL teams pick up free agent euros or do they have to be drafted through the euro draft?

Metallian*
01-03-2009, 08:25 PM
How about Rusnak?

Kamzik
01-03-2009, 08:27 PM
i don't see how this is possible. they currently own the rights to 2 euros. they just traded for mitch morgan (belgium??) and they also own the rights to voinov from russia. they don't own bezak's rights any more.

can CHL teams pick up free agent euros or do they have to be drafted through the euro draft?

Then Pierre Maguire of TSN doesn't know what he is talking about, which is quite possible. :) He said Bezak was headed to Moncton after the tournament.

Fleury14
01-05-2009, 01:12 AM
I think Tatar could be like Karlsson who had his stock rise sigificantly becasue of his performance at the WJC, IIRC.

Karlsson's stock rose because of his performance at the u18's (held like a month before the entry draft). Karlsson didn't play for Sweden at last year's WJCs.

Redden Hogalot
01-05-2009, 01:50 AM
I would have to think Tomas Tatar will be drafted with the tournament he has put on and this year is also his first year of draft eligibility. He has been a pretty dominant player for Slovakia this tournament and IMO has outplayed Richard Panik who is a highly regarded NHL draft eligible prospect.

Pierre McGuire just said one second ago that Jaroslav Janus should get an agent because he's going to get drafted this year. I don't know if I particularly agree with that statement but it is entirely possible that an NHL team will take a chance on Janus in the later rounds. He hasn't exactly been over impressive in the OHL and isn't very consistent. Hopefully this tournament changes things for him.

Playing for the Otters doesn't fair too well. :laugh:

Whites House
01-05-2009, 02:16 AM
I desperately want the Leafs to get a second round pick and hopefully snag Tatar. A lot of potential on that kid. Instant man crush.

Smid4327
01-05-2009, 03:04 AM
Janus will get drafted by Edmonton...watch for it

Darius Dangleaitis
01-05-2009, 03:06 AM
I'd be delighted if Jersey can pick up Tatar in the later rounds.

MikeC
01-05-2009, 06:41 AM
I dont see much NHL potential in Tatar. Tartar will probably be drafted in the later rounds.

Just happy you do not work as a scout in the NHL. By far one of the worst comment I have seen in here.

Before talking about a player, be sure that your tv is on.

Please learn the game before talking. Please watch the guy play before saying things that make you ridiculous. This kid was great.

If you want to make that kind of statement, please elaborate next time. Tell us what you did not see in this kid.

On a more serious note, the ISS did not have him in their top 150 for the 2009 but even if I am not a hockey expert like Agent Naslund, i would bet that we will see is name in the top 75 of their next edition.

That kid has everything a scout is looking for. If he continues to play like he did in this tournament in the next months. I can see a team saying his name in the first round.

GoingGoingGagner
01-05-2009, 09:19 AM
Janus will get drafted by Edmonton...watch for it

Good to know thanks!

What a useless post. Though this one's pretty useless too so i digress.

They all looked like okay players, I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two of them left after the draft, but they all have their shots.

An Ape called Yoko
01-05-2009, 09:41 AM
I have been very impressed by Tomas Tatar. Great stickhandling, speed and great wristshot. If he is not drafted that would be a joke.
I´d certainly pick him in round 4-5.

John-Eric Iannicello
01-05-2009, 09:56 AM
I mentioned this on the prospects board, Tatar was ranked 96 by Marc Seidel of The Hockey News. His performance in the WJ's IMO has him as a lock in the top 80 range (maybe even higher depending on how the rest of the year plays out). He's not the biggest kid, and maybe he lacks the top gear, but his skill is there and he's young..

Janus played exceptionally well in some big games. Don't think he'll be taken in the top half of the draft, though if he comes back to Erie with some stronger confidence.. maybe .. but I'd bet my horse on 5-7th round. Not sure how sold alot of NHL scouts are on him, but based on his WJ's I think he's easily worth a late round gamble (if there are such things).

So Tatar, probably an early 2nd-3rd rounder.
Janus 5th-7th round.

Kamzik
01-05-2009, 01:42 PM
I am surprised Slovakia's top defender Martin Stajnoch is not being mentioned. I suppose being a Dman that is 5 ft 11 doesn't help. But he throws his body all over the place, and is the best puck moving Dman on the team. He is the guy sending Tatar and Panik on all these scoring chances.

v-man
01-05-2009, 01:48 PM
i don't see how this is possible. they currently own the rights to 2 euros. they just traded for mitch morgan (belgium??) and they also own the rights to voinov from russia. they don't own bezak's rights any more.

can CHL teams pick up free agent euros or do they have to be drafted through the euro draft?

They can hold the rights to more than two Euro's, they simply can't have more than two on the active roster at any given time.

Habsfan18
01-05-2009, 04:38 PM
I added Valach into the thread title. He's impressed me as well.

I believe he was passed up last year.

ObnoxiousPensFan*
01-05-2009, 04:51 PM
Tatar on a line with Geno or Sid would make my banana hard.

Fleury14
01-06-2009, 04:02 AM
I added Valach into the thread title. He's impressed me as well.

I believe he was passed up last year.

Valach looked good at the beginning of the tournament of the tournament and I was amazed that a 6'7 d-man of his ability would have been passed over in the draft.

But, later on, it became pretty clear why he hadn't been drafted previously, in that he had a very hard time with any players with decent speed or better.

I thought his superior reach would negate that somewhat but the Swedes embarrassed him in the semis by constantly skating around him, and he was only marginally better in the bronze game against the Russians.

Having said that, he could still turn into a Hal Gill type should he work on utilizing his size and reach more and he's worth taking a flyer on.

Lessy
01-06-2009, 05:08 PM
Valach looked good at the beginning of the tournament of the tournament and I was amazed that a 6'7 d-man of his ability would have been passed over in the draft.

But, later on, it became pretty clear why he hadn't been drafted previously, in that he had a very hard time with any players with decent speed or better.

I thought his superior reach would negate that somewhat but the Swedes embarrassed him in the semis by constantly skating around him, and he was only marginally better in the bronze game against the Russians.

Having said that, he could still turn into a Hal Gill type should he work on utilizing his size and reach more and he's worth taking a flyer on.

I saw Slovakia play three games and one player that really intrigued me was Valach. He's very raw still but honestly, at that size he has a ton of potential. He has some decent mobility for a guy of that size and a pretty good slapper. He really stood out for me as a guy with NHL upside. Has some parts of his game that need tweaking but he has the tools to be an NHLer.

wings5
01-06-2009, 08:09 PM
I'm wondering why Tomas Tatar wears a full cage if he wasn't born in 91 or later his birthday is december 1st 1990. Can someone tell me why?

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=17750

BrentH
01-06-2009, 08:20 PM
Janus will get drafted by Edmonton...watch for it

Lowe was a section over from my seats at the WJC... I'm sure Janus might be on the radar for many teams in the late rounds.

Lessy
01-06-2009, 11:18 PM
Lowe was a section over from my seats at the WJC... I'm sure Janus might be on the radar for many teams in the late rounds.

Same deal for me... were you 320?

As for Janus I think someone will take a flyer on him if he can have a half decent finish to his OHL season. His stats so far seem quite underwhelming but a showing like the one he put on in the WJC makes me think someone will give him a shot.

mapes
01-06-2009, 11:30 PM
Janus' stock has probably risen quite a bit.

DaveG
01-06-2009, 11:36 PM
Tatar I can see being selected anywhere from the 2nd to the 4th round, depending on how highly some of the scouts and teams value his performance at a tournament like the WJCs and how much they value size.

Janus will likely be a late round pick. Not sure about Valach, but my bet is that if he's passed over again someone will take a shot on him as a UFA signing.

BrentH
01-07-2009, 08:45 AM
Same deal for me... were you 320?


There were a lot of other faces I recognized but couldn't put a name to them. Marc Crawford was down there.. also seen Dave Nonis and James Duthie walking around.

I was on the other side, in section 317 Row M.

Here was my view. :handclap:
http://www.hockey5.com/images/misc/5-5.jpg