AfroThunder396 12-01-2008, 03:56 PM This was posted on the trade rumor board - apparently a radio station in Canada is saying that Jagr wants out of Russia. They said he is interested in signing with New Jersey and would be willing to take 1.5M - 2M in order to fit under the cap.
Take it for what it's worth, but hypothetically would you be willing to take Jagr on the Devils? Even with all of the issues surrounding Jagr I would probably take him, but we would have to move one of our wingers in order to make it happen.
RMBoner Stabone 12-01-2008, 03:57 PM Lemieux's Daughter (Don Cherry's nickname for him) would be welcome on this team. He would be an upgrade over most of the roster in terms of finishing goals.
Trade the floaters and clear cap space.
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 03:57 PM yes yes and more yes
fluffernutter mf 12-01-2008, 04:03 PM I'm not sure. If we were to sign him, I wouldn't be upset, but I wouldn't really be over joyed either. He's still a great player and he's better than most of what we have on the wing, but I hate the guy. Although, Elias-Zubrus-Jagr might be pretty ****ing sweet.
Mr.Krinkle 12-01-2008, 04:03 PM Only if he grows the mullet back
åboriginal 12-01-2008, 04:04 PM yes i would. jagr is too talented to overlook. heck call me utterly insane, but i actually would be for a yashin experiment. granted his pay would have to be 1 million(or less) with lots of incentive bonuses. prolly the only way to get him to perform. but jagr sure would look interesting with elias. aint happening though.
cj225 12-01-2008, 04:05 PM I put no...just because I don't like the guy. No other reason than that.
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 04:07 PM Of course I would. Why wouldn't anyone?
Mr Bojanglez 12-01-2008, 04:10 PM you'd have to. A player of his caliber... and at that supposed price? Sure, his skills have dropped. What is he doing in Russia stats-wise?
At the very least, he'd gameup against the Rangers
DevFan-RU- 12-01-2008, 04:11 PM Is there any more choice more negative in response than "no"?
Clarkson Falls Down 12-01-2008, 04:11 PM Who wouldn't like a good player on their team?
Gunnar Stahl 30 12-01-2008, 04:12 PM i vogted no but i meant yes, for 1.5-2 that would be a steal, and a huge slap in teh face to the rangers which would be nice because of the whole gomez ordeal
Gunnar Stahl 30 12-01-2008, 04:14 PM all hypotheticals of course, but we could move gionta for a defensman and put jagr on the top line
feerlessleadr 12-01-2008, 04:15 PM i'm sorry, but anyone saying no to this needs to take off the homer glasses.
Jagr at 1.5 - 2 mil is a Black Friday deal, if on Black Friday stores were giving away $300 xbox 360's for 10 bucks....
the guy is a premiere talent (even though on the decline) and would instantly make the Devils a better team.
dazednconfused 12-01-2008, 04:17 PM could you imagine.....
elias zubrus jagr
parise zajac rolston
ALine9900 12-01-2008, 04:17 PM Why would he take such a discount to play in NJ? Could you imagine our forward lineup...
slackerracker 12-01-2008, 04:17 PM I think this would also be good for Elias as i think they'll play together really well. Does anyone know if they ever played on the same line before in any international games?
Gunnar Stahl 30 12-01-2008, 04:18 PM could you imagine.....
elias zubrus jagr
parise zajac rolston
http://veganfreakradio.com/o-face.jpg
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 04:18 PM could you imagine.....
elias zubrus jagr
parise zajac rolston
boing
feerlessleadr 12-01-2008, 04:19 PM Why would he take such a discount to play in NJ? Could you imagine our forward lineup...
perhaps he is trying to take a wizz in Sather's face...right in his own backyard none-the-less
Gunnar Stahl 30 12-01-2008, 04:19 PM I think this would also be good for Elias as i think they'll play together really well. Does anyone know if they ever played on the same line before in any international games?
im sure htey have. elias and jagr are pretty similar players, jagr just better and stronger. both are great passers so they could help each other in that aspect
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 04:19 PM Even our third line at that point if we didnt trade anyone would be awesome
Gio-Madden-Langenbrunner
Gunnar Stahl 30 12-01-2008, 04:20 PM Even our third line at that point if we didnt trade anyone would be awesome
Gio-Madden-Langenbrunner
gionta would have to go probably, or atleast someone, and he would make the most sense
dazednconfused 12-01-2008, 04:20 PM altho zubrus and jagr are both good puck possesion soooo
parise zajac jagr
elias zubrus rolston
AfroThunder396 12-01-2008, 04:20 PM all hypotheticals of course, but we could move gionta for a defensman and put jagr on the top line
Elias-Zubrus-Jagr
Parise-Zajac-Rolston
Pando-Madden-Langer
Rupp-Holik-Clarkson
That is pretty ****in solid.
ALine9900 12-01-2008, 04:20 PM perhaps he is trying to take a wizz in Sather's face...right in his own backyard none-the-less
Only reasons I can think of are, he wants to win another cup and still live in NYC.
Richer's Ghost 12-01-2008, 04:21 PM i vogted no but i meant yes
vogted? how peculiar you would type that
Mr Bojanglez 12-01-2008, 04:21 PM could you imagine.....
elias zubrus jagr
parise zajac rolston
Pando-Madden-Langs
Rupp-Holik-Clarkson
Gionta traded for cap space/pics/possibly packaged for a defender.
Unbelievable
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 04:21 PM No Thank You I would rather see some of the young guys stay up.............Rather then Jagr take up a roster spot. We have enough old veterans on the the team too.
I don't question his skill I just don't like his attitude about things. At points when the rags needed him he choose to pass it off like the shootout.
On a side note I don't think I could handle anymore from rag fans if that happen. lol
Richer's Ghost 12-01-2008, 04:22 PM So in desperation to beat the Rangers, we become the rangers one player at a time by signing Shanahan and Jagr.
:facepalm:
ALine9900 12-01-2008, 04:22 PM No Thank You I would rather see some of the young guys stay up.............Rather then Jagr take up a roster spot. We have enough old veterans on the the team too.
On a side note I don't think I could handle anymore from rag fans if that happen. lol
Screw the young guys, it's ****ing Jagr.
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 04:23 PM gionta would have to go probably, or atleast someone, and he would make the most sense
haha yeah i was just kidding on the most part, because if Jagr came Gio would be gone for a dman before you could spell Jaromir backwards. Jagr would solve alot of problems on this team. He might even be the direct cause for our problems to be solved. Because if you get Jagr at 2 mil, then Gio gets traded at 4 mil for a top 4 dman, then at the end of the year we have enough cap space, with a possible cup!
but this is all hypothetical. i would seriously **** my pants if Jagr ever came to the devils.
AfroThunder396 12-01-2008, 04:24 PM No Thank You I would rather see some of the young guys stay up.............Rather then Jagr take up a roster spot. We have enough old veterans on the the team too.
On a side note I don't think I could handle anymore from rag fans if that happen. lol
The young guys are only getting 4 minutes a night. And besides, this would only be a 1 year deal and Jagr would walk in July.
cj225 12-01-2008, 04:24 PM i'm sorry, but anyone saying no to this needs to take off the homer glasses.
Jagr at 1.5 - 2 mil is a Black Friday deal, if on Black Friday stores were giving away $300 xbox 360's for 10 bucks....
the guy is a premiere talent (even though on the decline) and would instantly make the Devils a better team.
It's a matter of opinion....no one here is right or wrong, so just relax. And, it also has nothing to do with being a homer.
guyincognito 12-01-2008, 04:24 PM rumor is ********, it was based off some hypothetical in an article somewhere, where "if" Jagr wasn't getting paid, maybe he'd go back to the NHL, he'd like to live in NYC, so the Rangers couldn't afford him capwise, he'd play for the Devils instead.
ALine9900 12-01-2008, 04:24 PM haha yeah i was just kidding on the most part, because if Jagr came Gio would be gone for a dman before you could spell Jaromir backwards. Jagr would solve alot of problems on this team. He might even be the direct cause for our problems to be solved. Because if you get Jagr at 2 mil, then Gio gets traded at 4 mil for a top 4 dman, then at the end of the year we have enough cap space, with a possible cup!
but this is all hypothetical. i would seriously **** my pants if Jagr ever came to the devils.
My thoughts exactly. This would be too good to be true.
åboriginal 12-01-2008, 04:25 PM No Thank You I would rather see some of the young guys stay up.............Rather then Jagr take up a roster spot. We have enough old veterans on the the team too.
On a side note I don't think I could handle anymore from rag fans if that happen. lol
why not? they got the devs sloppy seconds, latino style. all we need to do is get back to the dominance of a few years back they so easily forget. then the playing field will be even again, irregardless of whos getting whos former players.
dazednconfused 12-01-2008, 04:27 PM unfortunatly this will never happen because this is the last year of the bargin agreemant and unless a new one is made by the nhl, all performace bonuses count towards the cap.
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 04:28 PM It's a matter of opinion....no one here is right or wrong, so just relax. And, it also has nothing to do with being a homer.
You're wrong
hlundqvist30 12-01-2008, 04:28 PM I hated Jagr too, even when he became a Ranger. The guy does magical things, though. You guys essentially witnessed first hand what he did for the Rangers. As much as you think you hate him, the minute he were to sign with the Devils would be the minute a third of the fan base bought a 68 Devils jersey.
As someone else stated, take off the homer glasses. If Jagr did what he did with the Rangers except with the Calgary Flames then there wouldn't be a single vote for "no." I know you guys have other needs, such as that #1 defenseman, but if any of you would turn down a potential 30+ goal scorer not in a trade with a contract under 3 million then you need to get your head examined.
That said, I don't think that this rumor is likely at all. I will say that though I clearly would hate him becoming a Devil as a Ranger fan, I would be very happy from a pure hockey perspective if he came back.
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 04:28 PM why not? they got the devs sloppy seconds, latino style. all we need to do is get back to the dominance of a few years back they so easily forget. then the playing field will be even again, irregardless of whos getting whos former players.
No more old players lol...............I will say yes if u can promise no more Holik then. :)
And for the person calling the people saying no a homer. That has nothing to do with me say no..................I can see Jagr coming here and then all of u turning on him in a heart beat because doesn't work out lol Cough Pando Cough
Mr Bojanglez 12-01-2008, 04:29 PM You're wrong
you're right
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 04:29 PM I would get a 68 Jagr jersey just to piss off all of my Ranger friends.
Jiri Bicek 12-01-2008, 04:30 PM This is random
Pretty crazy rumor too.. Is there a source or anything?
If there is any truth to this.. Yes, I would be willing to pick him up at the airport and carry his bags
Devilswede 12-01-2008, 04:30 PM Jagr's icetime under Sutter: 04:38 per game....
cj225 12-01-2008, 04:30 PM You're wrong
And that's your opinion.....and you can take that opinion and shove it where the sun don't shine!
Have a great day sir...
feerlessleadr 12-01-2008, 04:31 PM It's a matter of opinion....no one here is right or wrong, so just relax. And, it also has nothing to do with being a homer.
why would you think I am not relaxed?
But to say that you wouldn't take Jagr on this team at that price for any reason than we would have to get rid of a group of our core players (ie marty, zach, zajac, madden, elias, etc) is madness.
The guy can play, and he wouldn't be the centerpiece of our offense, and best of all...he walks in July and thats it.
So basically there is no logical reason to NOT want Jagr on this team at that price (assuming the rumors are true of course)
dazednconfused 12-01-2008, 04:31 PM Pando-Madden-Langs
Rupp-Holik-Clarkson
Gionta traded for cap space/pics/possibly packaged for a defender.
Unbelievable
pando madden clarkson
rupp holik vrana
langs gets traded with gio for defender
Mr Bojanglez 12-01-2008, 04:32 PM I look at it as a switch between Gionta and Jagr. I guess the terms are all important. But lets say its for one year (ideal situation)
We trade Gionta and get assets/lose cap space. We sign Jagr. Essentially you replace one with the other, and Gio gives you some picks (or maybe a package with another Dman for an upgrade on the blue line).
Who would you rather have come playoff time? Gio or Jagr?
Granted, for me to believe Jagr wants to come here... I'd have to accept that I'm pretty sure he'd want a couple of years in his contract. In which case, it might still be worth it but i wouldn't consider it a no-brainer like a one-year
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 04:32 PM pando madden clarkson
rupp holik vrana
langs gets traded with gio for defender
Langs goes nowhere, buttmunch
Mr Bojanglez 12-01-2008, 04:33 PM Langs goes nowhere
you said it, not us
feerlessleadr 12-01-2008, 04:34 PM No more old players lol...............I will say yes if u can promise no more Holik then. :)
And for the person calling the people saying no a homer. That has nothing to do with me say no..................I can see Jagr coming here and then all of u turning on him in a heart beat because doesn't work out lol Cough Pando Cough
except that Jagr would be getting paid the same if not less than Pando, and (I am assuming this of course) would be off the books come July.
so he two situations are completely different.
dazednconfused 12-01-2008, 04:34 PM Langs goes nowhere, buttmunch
yea well langs on the third just made it slower and older
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 04:34 PM Langs goes nowhere, buttmunch
Langs Gio 2nd for Sergei Zubov and a 3rd :naughty::sarcasm:
Richer's Ghost 12-01-2008, 04:36 PM "You'll get nothing and like it!"
http://forumimages.footballguys.com/uploads/av-2666.jpg
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 04:37 PM I'm so disappointed that people are voting no
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 04:38 PM Lou won't do it anyway he is smarter then that I hope...................I love how some of u complain u want to give certain players from Lowell a chance............YET u wants to take a roster spot away for Jagr? I rather see young up and coming player take that spot and a chance. Then to add yet another old player. (And again I am not doubting Jagr talent but it not the right thing to do here)
PLus I thought we needed a D man NOT another forward lol...............I want a D before even thinking about signing Jagr
cj225 12-01-2008, 04:39 PM I'm so disappointed that people are voting no
Good...I love disappointing you! It makes my day.
dazednconfused 12-01-2008, 04:40 PM I'm so disappointed that people are voting no
what dosn't kill ya makes you stronger
Blitz113 12-01-2008, 04:40 PM Absolutely. Put him with Elias and let them do their magic. :yo:
Jiri Bicek 12-01-2008, 04:42 PM Lou won't do it anyway he is smarter then that I hope...................I love how some of u complain u want to give certain players from Lowell a chance............YET u wants to take a roster spot away for Jagr? I rather see young up and coming player take that spot and a chance. Then to add yet another old player. (And again I am not doubting Jagr talent but it not the right thing to do here)
PLus I thought we needed a D man NOT another forward lol...............I want a D before even thinking about signing Jagr
Having Jagr would make other forwards expendable for trade, no?
Is there a skilled D-man out there that is unsigned that you would like Lou to sign?
DEVILS ALL THE WAY 12-01-2008, 04:42 PM I'm so disappointed that people are voting no
I know. Other then this year, it`s been impossible for us to acquire a free agent and now we have someone like Jagr that would take a massive paycut (according to the rumor) just to play for this team and some poeple won`t like it ?!?!?
Gimme a freakin break :amazed:
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 04:44 PM Having Jagr would make other forwards expendable for trade, no?
Is there a skilled D-man out there that is unsigned that you would like Lou to sign?
Richard Matvichuk.
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 04:48 PM Having Jagr would make other forwards expendable for trade, no?
Is there a skilled D-man out there that is unsigned that you would like Lou to sign?
And who would u give up then if jagr makes other forward expendable for trade?
DEVILS ALL THE WAY 12-01-2008, 04:50 PM Lou won't do it anyway he is smarter then that I hope...................I love how some of u complain u want to give certain players from Lowell a chance............YET u wants to take a roster spot away for Jagr? I rather see young up and coming player take that spot and a chance. Then to add yet another old player. (And again I am not doubting Jagr talent but it not the right thing to do here)
PLus I thought we needed a D man NOT another forward lol...............I want a D before even thinking about signing Jagr
Acquiring Jagr makes players like Gionta more expandable and will give that little extra from our part to acquire a good defencemen... no ??? And comparing rookies like Bergfors and Vrana that get a average of 4 minutes/game and a star player (because he's no superstar anymore) like Jagr that can log easily 15 to 20 minutes/game is making my head hurt... How you can compare the both is beyond me ???
AfroThunder396 12-01-2008, 04:51 PM And who would u give up then if jagr makes other forward expendable for trade?
http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/gionta.jpg
JimEIV 12-01-2008, 04:51 PM I couldn't imagine anyone saying no to Jagr at $3M or less
cj225 12-01-2008, 04:51 PM Are people really getting this riled up because a few people said no?
No wonder our GDT's look like mass suicides...
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 04:52 PM I couldn't imagine anyone saying no to Jagr at $3M or less
That's what I'm saying. People here are ridiculous.
DEVILS ALL THE WAY 12-01-2008, 04:53 PM Are people really getting this riled up because a few people said no?
No wonder our GDT's look like mass suicides...
It's just that the logic isn't being respected... that's all.
paulytits 12-01-2008, 04:56 PM i voted a simple yes. id like to see more develop out of this story also.
cj225 12-01-2008, 04:57 PM It's just that the logic isn't being respected... that's all.
Who cares? Everyone is entitled to their opinion. So what, someone doesn't agree with you....MOVE ON!
Seriously....it's a rumor that probably won't even come true and you're jumping all over the people that said no.
It's an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD....WHO CARES whether or not someone said yes or no?
Further more, if you want respect, then respect the people that said "NO" because there opinions aren't getting respected either.
Das Uber 12-01-2008, 04:57 PM Yes for several reasons.
A) It would allow us to dump Gionta.
B) He can finish, which is our biggest problem according to our head coach and captain.
C) If we managed to win a cup with him, we'd have endless opportunities to flame on the Rags board.
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 04:58 PM I couldn't imagine anyone saying no to Jagr at $3M or less
Ya because Jagr will take something like that.............If I was Jagr I would laugh at that person. I would rather retire then to accept that.
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 04:58 PM We can always trade him for J-bo too
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 04:58 PM Ya because Jagr will take something like that.............If I was Jagr I would laugh at that person. I would rather retire then to accept that.
The rumor is he's willing to take a pay cut to fit into our cap
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 05:00 PM Yes for several reasons.
A) It would allow us to dump Gionta.
B) He can finish, which is our biggest problem according to our head coach and captain.
C) If we managed to win a cup with him, we'd have endless opportunities to flame on the Rags board.
Just Gio last I looked a lot of them were having problems finishing. Not just one player its a team thing so far.
Ranger fans would have the biggest laugh if this ever happen. They wanted him gone too.
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 05:01 PM The rumor is he's willing to take a pay cut to fit into our cap
I would go to a team that could fit me in with no cap issues. I am telling u this will lead to nothing but problems if it happens mark my words. But I have nothing to worry about since it won't happen.
AfroThunder396 12-01-2008, 05:02 PM Ya because Jagr will take something like that.............If I was Jagr I would laugh at that person. I would rather retire then to accept that.
The KHL isn't paying their players anything. In fact, given the Cherepanov tragedy, I would be willing to bet that Jagr would pay money to get out of there.
2M would be an incredible bargain.
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 05:03 PM Hmmmmmm y is he willing to come to NJ...............There are plenty of other teams our there that can afford him. I know because NO ONE WANTS HIM!!!!!!!
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 05:04 PM The KHL isn't paying their players anything. In fact, given the Cherepanov tragedy, I would be willing to bet that Jagr would pay money to get out of there.
2M would be an incredible bargain.
Thats his own fault and I am not sorry for him at all...........He made that choice along with other players. Now he has to deal with it. I rather we say that 2mill for a D man we so need.
Das Uber 12-01-2008, 05:04 PM Just Gio last I looked a lot of them were having problems finishing. Not just one player its a team thing so far.
Ranger fans would have the biggest laugh if this ever happen. They wanted him gone too.
http://www.latinoreview.com/images/user/picard-facepalm.jpg
Lou's Koolaid 12-01-2008, 05:05 PM I voted no but, Im sorta on the fence still. I'd rather have him than Sundin but, I just can't see this happening. Sutter and Jagr that could be a bad mariage I think.
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 05:06 PM http://www.latinoreview.com/images/user/picard-facepalm.jpg
Whatever I am done defending myself just because I said no..............If I am homer just because I don't want Jagr so be it but I stand by the NO.
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 05:06 PM BrodeurRULES, you're such a pessimistic patty
DEVILS ALL THE WAY 12-01-2008, 05:07 PM Who cares? Everyone is entitled to their opinion. So what, someone doesn't agree with you....MOVE ON!
Seriously....it's a rumor that probably won't even come true and you're jumping all over the people that said no.
It's an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD....WHO CARES whether or not someone said yes or no?
Further more, if you want respect, then respect the people that said "NO" because there opinions aren't getting respected either.
Hey, i respect whatever you have to say but it doesn't mean that i have to agree to your opinion also. It's not directed only towards you but the people in general that voted "no".
I know it's a rumor and there's about 99.9% that it'll never happen or come close to even happening but if Lou can get a player the caliber of Jagr, add a d-men with the departure of Gionta or whoever (because someone is gonna leave IF we add Jagr) and maybe get a couple of picks also... wouldn't that help out the team that you like so much ?!?!?
Das Uber 12-01-2008, 05:10 PM Whatever I am done defending myself just because I said no..............If I am homer just because I don't want Jagr so be it but I stand by the NO.
Jebus, did you snort some smarties and chug a Mountain Dew or something? Chill out.
cj225 12-01-2008, 05:11 PM Hey, i respect whatever you have to say but it doesn't mean that i have to agree to your opinion also. It's not directed only towards you but the people in general that voted "no".
I know it's a rumor and there's about 99.9% that it'll never happen or come close to even happening but if Lou can get a player the caliber of Jagr, add a d-men with the departure of Gionta or whoever (because someone is gonna leave IF we add Jagr) and maybe get a couple of picks also... wouldn't that help out the team that you like so much ?!?!?
That's exactly my point. However, a lot of you on here aren't giving the people who voted no the respect that they deserve.
Just because I live for this team, doesn't mean doesn't mean I have to like it if he signs here. And it CERTAINLY doesn't mean that I have to say "yes" to a thread titled "would you want Jagr here".
It's all a matter of opinion. I don't want him here. I don't have to give you reasons why...that's my opinion.
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 05:11 PM Hey, i respect whatever you have to say but it doesn't mean that i have to agree to your opinion also. It's not directed only towards you but the people in general that voted "no".
I know it's a rumor and there's about 99.9% that it'll never happen or come close to even happening but if Lou can get a player the caliber of Jagr, add a d-men with the departure of Gionta or whoever (because someone is gonna leave IF we add Jagr) and maybe get a couple of picks also... wouldn't that help out the team that you like so much ?!?!?
testify my brother!
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 05:12 PM Jebus, did you snort some smarties and chug a Mountain Dew or something? Chill out.
I knew I should have just voted and stay away :laugh:...............Make it game day already plz.
cj225 12-01-2008, 05:13 PM testify my brother!
Oh okay Mr. I love Jamie Langenbrunner even though he's been doing jack squat! :shakehead
And yes...someone DID piss in my cheerios!
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 05:14 PM Oh okay Mr. I love Jamie Langenbrunner even though he's been doing jack squat! :shakehead
And yes...someone DID piss in my cheerios!
you're mean
Jiri Bicek 12-01-2008, 05:15 PM And who would u give up then if jagr makes other forward expendable for trade?
Like others have said.. Gio..
Now, since you want D first.. Who would you like us to sign that's out there?
cj225 12-01-2008, 05:15 PM you're mean
So are you! But I have an excuse...I'm a female, I'm ALWAYS mean.
What's your excuse?
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 05:16 PM So are you! But I have an excuse...I'm a female, I'm ALWAYS mean.
What's your excuse?
he has his period
fluffernutter mf 12-01-2008, 05:16 PM http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/gionta.jpg
No idea why, but I thought that was Brylin for a second.
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 05:17 PM So are you! But I have an excuse...I'm a female, I'm ALWAYS mean.
What's your excuse?
I have an enormous ego.
he has his period
**** you, Harrison
cj225 12-01-2008, 05:18 PM I have an enormous ego.
**** you, Harrison
Yeah, well I'm here to squash it...so :p:
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 05:19 PM I have an enormous ego.
**** you, Harrison
i love you too dave
RMBoner Stabone 12-01-2008, 05:20 PM Imagine how much DJ Tiesto and Paul Van Dyk would be played on Zubrus' Ipod if Jagr were his linemate.
There is a battle between Techno/Rap/Hiphop and bad Rock/Country in the Devils locker room.
Seriously, Gionta/Langenbrunner/White/Pando should all be on Lou's warroom blackboard.
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 05:21 PM Jagr and Zubrus would rave all throughout the NJ Club Scene.
Man that is like a photoshop picture waiting to happen.
DEVILS ALL THE WAY 12-01-2008, 05:21 PM That's exactly my point. However, a lot of you on here aren't giving the people who voted no the respect that they deserve.
Just because I live for this team, doesn't mean doesn't mean I have to like it if he signs here. And it CERTAINLY doesn't mean that I have to say "yes" to a thread titled "would you want Jagr here".
It's all a matter of opinion. I don't want him here. I don't have to give you reasons why...that's my opinion.
I respect your opinion... i just don't understand it. And if you can't tell me why you wouldn't welcome him to the Devils, then that makes your point or opinion worthless to me.
If your gonna back up a point you gotta make us understand your side ;)
RMBoner Stabone 12-01-2008, 05:22 PM Jagr and Zubrus would rave all throughout the NJ Club Scene.
Man that is like a photoshop picture waiting to happen.
Both would test positive for E and Cocaine. I hope they slip GHB in a Swedish Goalie Crantini while he's out on the town with his beard.
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 05:22 PM I put no...just because I don't like the guy. No other reason than that.
DATW, i think she already stated her reason.
cj225 12-01-2008, 05:23 PM I respect your opinion... i just don't understand it. And if you can't tell me why you wouldn't welcome him to the Devils, then that makes your point or opinion worthless to me.
If your gonna back up a point you gotta make us understand your side ;)
I've never liked Jagr personally, and I actually stated that in my very first post here.
I've never seen what all the hoopla is and that's MY opinion. I'm not saying you have to agree with me, and I'm almost positive, you'll ALL disagree with me. To each his own.
I don't want him! I never have...I never will...and even if he wears a Devils jersey, I'll root for what he's wearing on the front, but NEVER the name on the back (I've done that quite a few times)!
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 05:23 PM Both would test positive for E and Cocaine. I hope they slip GHB in a Swedish Goalie Crantini while he's out on the town with his beard.
i wonder what they would do to Henrik after...
...okay that is a very bad photoshop picture waiting to happen
RMBoner Stabone 12-01-2008, 05:24 PM She just can't stand not being the prettiest one in the room and Jagr would be competition, pure and simple.
cj225 12-01-2008, 05:24 PM She just can't stand not being the prettiest one in the room and Jagr would be competition, pure and simple.
I'm out after that one....he wins!
BTW - You have now replaced Dave in the line-up...congrats!
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 05:26 PM She just can't stand not being the prettiest one in the room and Jagr would be competition, pure and simple.
:laugh:
DEVILS ALL THE WAY 12-01-2008, 05:27 PM I've never liked Jagr personally, and I actually stated that in my very first post here.
I've never seen what all the hoopla is and that's MY opinion. I'm not saying you have to agree with me, and I'm almost positive, you'll ALL disagree with me. To each his own.
I don't want him! I never have...I never will...and even if he wears a Devils jersey, I'll root for what he's wearing on the front, but NEVER the name on the back (I've done that quite a few times)!
Now that i can respect :yo:
You have the same haterid towards Jagr then you would with Avery ?!?!?
RMBoner Stabone 12-01-2008, 05:28 PM I'm out after that one....he wins!
BTW - You have no replaced Dave in the line-up...congrats!
Whose Dave and what's the job entail?
cj225 12-01-2008, 05:28 PM Now that i can respect :yo:
You have the same haterid towards Jagr then you would with Avery ?!?!?
Not quite as much...but it's only separated by a hair!
RMBoner Stabone 12-01-2008, 05:29 PM You have to admit, Jagr's hair pre haircut was very tussable.
cj225 12-01-2008, 05:29 PM Whose Dave and what's the job entail?
I Miss Nieds....you're just on my HF Devils Starting Roster...
He can fill you in since he lost the spot!
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 05:29 PM If Avery had a few 100+ point seasons, Hart and Art Ross trophys I'd take him, call me crazy
cj225 12-01-2008, 05:30 PM If Avery had a few 100+ point seasons, Hart and Art Ross trophys I'd take him, call me crazy
You're crazy!
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 05:31 PM I Miss Nieds....you're just on my HF Devils Starting Roster...
He can fill you in since he lost the spot!
I'll be back on the roster soon enough. We're too good of friends
RMBoner Stabone 12-01-2008, 05:31 PM I Miss Nieds....you're just on my HF Devils Starting Roster...
He can fill you in since he lost the spot!
Is it like a **** list or a VIP list? Because I've been on both in certain circles?
cj225 12-01-2008, 05:32 PM Is it like a **** list or a VIP list? Because I've been on both in certain circles?
VIP...if you're on the other list...you'd be on the ignore list!
cj225 12-01-2008, 05:32 PM I'll be back on the roster soon enough. We're too good of friends
We'll have to see.....;)
Classic Devil 12-01-2008, 05:34 PM Hell yes.
Jagr becomes detrimental to a team when they become dependent on him for their offense, largely because he can be streaky. The Rangers were in large part dependent on Jagr for scoring - look at the drop-off from last year to this year. The Devils have enough forward depth that it could not become an issue - we're scoring well enough that the team wouldn't need Jagr by any means - and of course it's only one year which isn't enough time to get "addicted" to his presence.
I'd rather a top defenseman, but a hot Jagr plus a healthy Brodeur plus our offensive depth could be cup-worthy.
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 05:35 PM Hell yes.
Jagr becomes detrimental to a team when they become dependent on him for their offense, largely because he can be streaky. The Rangers were in large part dependent on Jagr for scoring - look at the drop-off from last year to this year. The Devils have enough forward depth that it could not become an issue - we're scoring well enough that the team wouldn't need Jagr by any means - and of course it's only one year which isn't enough time to get "addicted" to his presence.
I'd rather a top defenseman, but a hot Jagr plus a healthy Brodeur plus our offensive depth could be cup-worthy.
Well said!
:hides behind Classic Devil:
Jiri Bicek 12-01-2008, 05:37 PM Watching puck control between Zubrus, Elias, and Jagr would be amazing.. Would just wonder when one would finally shoot
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 05:39 PM Watching puck control between Zubrus, Elias, and Jagr would be amazing.. Would just wonder when one would finally shoot
Just keep salmela's pairing out there with them, and we might actually have a powerplay. :amazed:
dont forget rolston too.
ILikeItVeryMuch 12-01-2008, 05:39 PM Haha oh my god
Classic Devil 12-01-2008, 05:39 PM By the way, Jagr goes with Parise and Zajac. Both Parise and Zajac play their best games away from the puck - Parise loves to drive to the net but plays an awesome game getting open and into the right place to pounce, Zajac loves to cycle and get the puck back and holds it well, but he's not an ideal playmaker. Jagr would complement them really, really nice.
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 05:40 PM By the way, Jagr goes with Parise and Zajac. Both Parise and Zajac play their best games away from the puck - Parise loves to drive to the net but plays an awesome game getting open and into the right place to pounce, Zajac loves to cycle and get the puck back and holds it well, but he's not an ideal playmaker. Jagr would complement them really, really nice.
Parise-Zajac-Jagr
Elias-Zub....
**** it, Parise-Zajac-Jagr would run ****.
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 05:42 PM Parise-Zajac-Jagr
Elias-Zub....
**** it, Parise-Zajac-Jagr would run ****.
puh-lease. You've gotta put him with Elias
Classic Devil 12-01-2008, 05:43 PM Parise-Zajac-Jagr
Elias-Zub....
**** it, Parise-Zajac-Jagr would run ****.
Parise - Zajac - Jagr
Elias - Zubrus - Gionta
Rolston - Madden - Langenbrunner
Pandolfo - Holik - Clarkson
Yeah, I know.
Scottyk9 12-01-2008, 05:43 PM In A Heartbeat
ILikeItVeryMuch 12-01-2008, 05:44 PM Yes but this is not going to happen, you would figure something like this said on a "Canadian Radio Station" would have grown some rumor news.
B-S
Classic Devil 12-01-2008, 05:45 PM Yes but this is not going to happen, you would figure something like this said on a "Canadian Radio Station" would have grown some rumor news.
B-S
Eh, it's made for a fun thread.
Classic Devil 12-01-2008, 05:45 PM puh-lease. You've gotta put him with Elias
Elias and Jagr would have in large part the same problem that Jagr and Gomez and Elias and Gomez had - all these guys love to hold the puck.
RMBoner Stabone 12-01-2008, 05:46 PM Yes but this is not going to happen, you would figure something like this said on a "Canadian Radio Station" would have grown some rumor news.
B-S
Beats someone overhearing something at a concert or a faceless rumormonger who batting worse than Jim Abbott.
Playing overseas in a league of a secondary sport (Hockey, Basketball) in countries like Italy, Greece and Russia means more than likely unsavory characters are the owners of the teams. Foreigners have zero recourse.
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 05:46 PM Elias and Jagr would have in large part the same problem that Jagr and Gomez and Elias and Gomez had - all these guys love to hold the puck.
Yeah, but can you imagine if one of Elias' phantom behind the back passes went to Jagr in the slot?
Classic Devil 12-01-2008, 05:48 PM Yeah, but can you imagine if one of Elias' phantom behind the back passes went to Jagr in the slot?
Call up Pascal Rheaume, he's the only guy we've had since Sykora who could pick up those passes for goals.
RMBoner Stabone 12-01-2008, 05:50 PM Elias and Jagr's exchange during the line after the playoff series and his kind words regarding Sutter and the Devils made me believe that he was leaving his door open if the Russian thing didn't work out.
Classic Devil 12-01-2008, 05:50 PM Elias and Jagr's exchange during the line after the playoff series and his kind words regarding Sutter and the Devils made me believe that he was leaving his door open if the Russian thing didn't work out.
Makes you wonder if Lou made him an offer.
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 05:51 PM What'd he say about us?:innocent:
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 05:52 PM Makes you wonder if Lou made him an offer.
It obviously wasn't an offer he couldn't refuse.
Classic Devil 12-01-2008, 05:53 PM It obviously wasn't an offer he couldn't refuse.
Eh, the last thing we needed was a war between the Lamoriello family and the Russian mob.
RMBoner Stabone 12-01-2008, 05:53 PM Makes you wonder if Lou made him an offer.
I wouldn't be suprised, but the offer he got from the KHL was obscene and made when oil was 150 a barrel and I'm sure that they budgeted the prices being higher at that time. I would be suprised if some like KGB Teddy was like take a hiiiiiiiiiiiiike, we don't liiike you.
RMBoner Stabone 12-01-2008, 05:54 PM What'd he say about us?:innocent:
He said something like how he was a fan of the Sutter system and how the Devils were a great organization during the playoff run. A far cry from his boasting in the 06-07 bloodbath.
RMBoner Stabone 12-01-2008, 05:55 PM Eh, the last thing we needed was a war between the Lamoriello family and the Russian mob.
Considering they have reenforcements in Brighton Beach and the Lamoriello family is spread thin across the Eastern Seaboard.
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 05:55 PM He said something like how he was a fan of the Sutter system and how the Devils were a great organization during the playoff run. A far cry from his boasting in the 06-07 bloodbath.
I remember that article too.
Gunnar Stahl 30 12-01-2008, 05:58 PM Makes you wonder if Lou made him an offer.
i doubt it, maybe if we didnt hear about it first
guyincognito 12-01-2008, 05:59 PM I wouldn't be suprised, but the offer he got from the KHL was obscene and made when oil was 150 a barrel and I'm sure that they budgeted the prices being higher at that time. I would be suprised if some like KGB Teddy was like take a hiiiiiiiiiiiiike, we don't liiike you.
I don't think the contract was that obscene. It was just the years + "tax free" + the team paying your living expenses. There was alot of showing off in the media by the KHL, but I think the actual contracts that Radulov and Jagr signed were pretty reasonable.
On a year-to-year basis, a team like the Oilers might have offered him just as much money.
Das Uber 12-01-2008, 06:03 PM I've never liked Jagr personally, and I actually stated that in my very first post here.
It's because he's black, isn't it?
RMBoner Stabone 12-01-2008, 06:05 PM I don't think the contract was that obscene. It was just the years + "tax free" + the team paying your living expenses. There was alot of showing off in the media by the KHL, but I think the actual contracts that Radulov and Jagr signed were pretty reasonable.
On a year-to-year basis, a team like the Oilers might have offered him just as much money.
Wasn't like 7-7.5 a year?
Seven Million plus living expense plus tax free money is worth 11-14 million a year in the NHL.
I don't think the contract was that obscene. It was just the years + "tax free" + the team paying your living expenses. There was alot of showing off in the media by the KHL, but I think the actual contracts that Radulov and Jagr signed were pretty reasonable.
On a year-to-year basis, a team like the Oilers might have offered him just as much money.
Correct.
Money wasn't the issue for Jagr. At this point in his career it was either gonna be NYR or Omsk......the 2 places he felt most comfortable.
RMBoner Stabone 12-01-2008, 06:11 PM Correct.
Money wasn't the issue for Jagr. At this point in his career it was either gonna be NYR or Omsk......the 2 places he felt most comfortable.
I remember it being more of a thanks but no thanks from the Rangers as they went in another direction from Shanahan/Jagr and got Naslund and others instead.
Besides, I hope the Devils get Jagr. Sather might just overpay for Pandolfo so he can shadow Jagr and keep Gomez company on cold Chelsea nights.
Devilsfanatic 12-01-2008, 06:22 PM Just to shut that know it all rudy poo candy ass Jonathon up I hope we get it done.
JLHockeyKnight 12-01-2008, 06:24 PM View from an outsider:
If you welcomed Kevin Weekes, then I hope you'll welcome Jagr with open arms.
Rivalries now-a-days last only as long as their contract...
The Cuban 12-01-2008, 06:27 PM Duh! Of course! ;)
ziggyluc 12-01-2008, 06:34 PM :scared::jump::hyper::vhappy:
It's Jagr! Of course I'd take him...OMG...lol it's JAGR!!!!!!
MAKE IT HAPPEN LOU!
- sorry I got a little carried away by the thought!
AfroThunder396 12-01-2008, 06:52 PM He said something like how he was a fan of the Sutter system and how the Devils were a great organization during the playoff run. A far cry from his boasting in the 06-07 bloodbath.
Do you have a link for this? I can't remember seeing it anywhere.
BigBully4 12-01-2008, 06:57 PM For that price, no brainer.
Devilsfan92 12-01-2008, 07:32 PM Wow, I changed my pants twice reading this thread. :D
That would be an ideal situation, needing to make a trade to get JAGR in a Devils jersey. :hyper:
What number would he wear? Doesn't Lou have a thing with high numbers?
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 07:38 PM Wow, I changed my pants twice reading this thread. :D
That would be an ideal situation, needing to make a trade to get JAGR in a Devils jersey. :hyper:
What number would he wear? Doesn't Lou have a thing with high numbers?
With established players like Jagr, he would be able to keep his number, same with Gilmour and Mogilny...
Darius Dangleaitis 12-01-2008, 07:44 PM If he takes that discount, we'd be stupid not to.
Devilsfan92 12-01-2008, 07:58 PM With established players like Jagr, he would be able to keep his number, same with Gilmour and Mogilny...
OK, fair enough...
ILikeItVeryMuch 12-01-2008, 07:59 PM NY Post May 27th 2009 - Jagr Leads Devils to Stunning Game 7 Win Over Rangers
Das Uber 12-01-2008, 08:18 PM NY Post May 27th 2009 - Jagr Leads Devils to Stunning Game 7 Win Over Rangers
NY Post May 28th 2009 - Everson and Brooks Drink the Jim Jones Kool Aid.
Anssi is epic 12-01-2008, 08:54 PM yes and yes
fortheloveof666 12-01-2008, 09:10 PM *takes off homer glasses I seldom wear*
N ****ing O
Too much money, suffers from lack of work ethic too much, not really a need we have right now to begin with, not to mention cap issues.
I see no reason why this team really needs Jagr, we've proven to be capable of scoring, but we're anemic at defense and at the moment in goal. Bringing in Jagr isn't going to make either of those go away.
YESSSS! I Know we all dont like the guy, but turning down talent like Jagr is just really stupid. This guy can start the season in December and finish the season with more points than anyone on the Devils Roster. Put Jagr on the Zajac and Parise line, and he could help those 2 kids in ways we cant even imagine. If Lou does sign him, it would be one of the best trades hes made in a while.
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 09:21 PM NY Post May 27th 2009 - Jagr Leads Devils to Stunning Game 7 Win Over Rangers
That would be some crazy crap................I can see massive suicide watch for all rag fans if that that every happens :laugh:
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 09:22 PM *takes off homer glasses I seldom wear*
N ****ing O
Too much money, suffers from lack of work ethic too much, not really a need we have right now to begin with, not to mention cap issues.
I see no reason why this team really needs Jagr, we've proven to be capable of scoring, but we're anemic at defense and at the moment in goal. Bringing in Jagr isn't going to make either of those go away.
Only reasonable argument against us obtaining Jagr
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 09:32 PM Only reasonable argument against us obtaining Jagr
I said something along that but was shot down :laugh: or was it some where else. Having the same debate in 3 different forum sites gets confusing lol
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 09:35 PM I said something along that but was shot down :laugh: or was it some where else. Having the same debate in 3 different forum sites gets confusing lol
I don't know, If you did and I shot it down it was because I was still in shock at the no responses. No harm no foul
hargsy 12-01-2008, 09:39 PM NY Post May 27th 2009 - Jagr Leads Devils to Stunning Game 7 Win Over Rangers
Fixed: Jagr Leads Devils to 4 game sweep of Rangers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
daveskirtun 12-01-2008, 09:39 PM Fixed: Jagr Leads Devils to 4 game sweep of Rangers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on, we have to give them hope, than steal it away:nod:
fortheloveof666 12-01-2008, 09:43 PM Come on, we have to give them hope, than steal it away:nod:
and they can be haunted by the repeated screaming of someone's last name.
BrodeurRULES 12-01-2008, 09:44 PM I don't know, If you did and I shot it down it was because I was still in shock at the no responses. No harm no foul
Its ok but trust me we will be better off without him. :)
Austrian Devil 12-01-2008, 09:45 PM and they can be haunted by the repeated screaming of someone's last name.
MOTTAU!! MOTTAU!! MOTTAU!!
?
hargsy 12-01-2008, 09:46 PM Yes but this is not going to happen, you would figure something like this said on a "Canadian Radio Station" would have grown some rumor news.
B-S
I think its BS and isnt gonna happen..................but believe it or not, I heard Marty and Jagr are actually good friends.........so you never know, all you need is a dollar and a dream, oh wait wrong commercial !!!!!!!!!
Game Breaker 12-01-2008, 09:48 PM i'm sorry, but anyone saying no to this needs to take off the homer glasses.
Jagr at 1.5 - 2 mil is a Black Friday deal, if on Black Friday stores were giving away $300 xbox 360's for 10 bucks....
the guy is a premiere talent (even though on the decline) and would instantly make the Devils a better team.
Excellent analogy. I know there is no truth to it whatsoever, but seriously, what would we have to lose? Getting him for that money allows us to trade Gionta+ for a dman exponentially making the team better.
hargsy 12-01-2008, 09:57 PM Put Jagr on a line with Madden and Pando, they could follow him all over the ice, call it the congo line !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fortheloveof666 12-01-2008, 10:02 PM Put Jagr on a line with Madden and Pando, they could follow him all over the ice, call it the congo line !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahahahahah
JWINK19 12-01-2008, 10:04 PM Since there is no option for HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO, I just voted no. Someone said earlier that Jagr "wouldn't be the centerpiece of our team". Of course he would, and that's what we don't need. He can say all the right things about being a team player, but once he gets out there it'll be all about him. Quite a few Rangers fans I know were happy to see him go because he wouldn't mesh his game to the teammates that were brought in to help him. Does anybody really want to see that here? Go ahead and call me a homer for not wanting him, but I don't.
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 10:05 PM Put Jagr on a line with Madden and Pando, they could follow him all over the ice, call it the congo line !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:laugh: your a clever one
Devilsfanatic 12-01-2008, 10:17 PM Put Jagr on a line with Madden and Pando, they could follow him all over the ice, call it the congo line !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMAO, that was gold. Well played sir.
fluffernutter mf 12-01-2008, 10:24 PM Put Jagr on a line with Madden and Pando, they could follow him all over the ice, call it the congo line !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I lawled.
guyincognito 12-01-2008, 10:31 PM The best part about this stupid rumor is a bunch of people on the rumor board, pontificating about who someone they don't know, and have likely never, ever spoken to, is willing to play for.
And the other people begging for him to play for their team, as if he actually reads the boards and cares what they think.
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 10:33 PM The best part about this stupid rumor is a bunch of people on the rumor board, pontificating about who someone they don't know, and have likely never, ever spoken to, is willing to play for.
And the other people begging for him to play for their team, as if he actually reads the boards and cares what they think.
i dont think we got that far...yet. :help:
guyincognito 12-01-2008, 10:41 PM i dont think we got that far...yet. :help:
I'm talking about the main board. Some of the dumbest posts I've ever seen are in that thread.
guyincognito 12-01-2008, 10:45 PM I mean, the way it's going, tomorrow I'll probably read something like
"Jagr, please come to the Coyotes. I'll give it up for you, and if you don't like men, I can tie up my sister. Or maybe you like both, PM me and we can talk."
Harrison Ford 12-01-2008, 11:11 PM I'm talking about the main board. Some of the dumbest posts I've ever seen are in that thread.
haha oh yeah i know i was just saying that i hope it doesnt get that far on this thread
JerryGigantic 12-02-2008, 12:46 AM Only if he grows the mullet back
Voted "Yes" along with 75% of the herd, for obvious reasons... But only if he rocks the openly insane "soul patch/Hitler mustache" combo:sarcasm:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://bp3.blogger.com/_OBDmnBhLMmk/SB72z9hwmDI/AAAAAAAAAIo/KzNzQK9Lsl0/s320/JaromirJagrPlaybook.jpg&imgrefurl=http://cabbages-n-kings.blogspot.com/2008/05/jaromir-jagr-and-game-face.html&usg=__reFkqsv1DGQfE5ansxs0rz1A6JA=&h=320&w=297&sz=22&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=bkPzkt_1O6F4hM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=110&prev=/images%3Fq%3DJagr%2BSoul%2Bpatch%2Bhitler%26ndsp%3 D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3De n-us%26sa%3DN
Darius Dangleaitis 12-02-2008, 12:50 AM You would have to be bonkers to turn Jagr down at 1.5-2 for one year.
britdevil 12-02-2008, 04:11 AM Lou won't do it anyway he is smarter then that I hope...................I love how some of u complain u want to give certain players from Lowell a chance............YET u wants to take a roster spot away for Jagr? I rather see young up and coming player take that spot and a chance. Then to add yet another old player. (And again I am not doubting Jagr talent but it not the right thing to do here)
PLus I thought we needed a D man NOT another forward lol...............I want a D before even thinking about signing Jagr
Are you like, 13 years old? We're talking about Jaromir Jagr here. Possibly the greatest European player in the history of the game, who loves to play with his fellow Eastern Bloc brothers.
Elias - Zubrus - Jagr
Yes, yes and triple ****ing yes.
Karus 12-02-2008, 04:28 AM Put Jagr on a line with Madden and Pando, they could follow him all over the ice, call it the congo line !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good one. :laugh:
Easton 12-02-2008, 06:30 AM Wow. I was certain this poll would result in 70-30 in favor of NO, but instead it's the other way around. I don't get you people. After all you've seen from that guy? :shakehead
Let me ask everyone this: If this rumor were true, that Jagr would be willing to sign with the Devils for about $2 million, do you think Lou would go for it?
jc950003* 12-02-2008, 09:22 AM ok first of all, YES. during the 2007-2008 playoffs, he was the best player in the world.
second of all, not a snowballs chance in hell that he would play on the devils, they would never sign him
Richer's Ghost 12-02-2008, 09:33 AM I love how a whimsical, hypothetical question from some random reporter followed by a spontaneous response evokes such a flurry of fantasy from this board's members.
Move along people, this is nothing more than a pipe dream for some, a nightmare for others.
"On the count of 1 you will awake feeling refreshed and full of energy."
ONE.
daveskirtun 12-02-2008, 10:32 AM Put Jagr on a line with Madden and Pando, they could follow him all over the ice, call it the congo line !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best statement ever? I think so
britdevil 12-02-2008, 10:45 AM I love how a whimsical, hypothetical question from some random reporter followed by a spontaneous response evokes such a flurry of fantasy from this board's members.
Move along people, this is nothing more than a pipe dream for some, a nightmare for others.
"On the count of 1 you will awake feeling refreshed and full of energy."
ONE.
The board has quite frankly been uptight, pessimistic and down right boring to read lately.
I've quite enjoyed this flight of fantasy.
Richer's Ghost 12-02-2008, 10:49 AM The board has quite frankly been uptight, pessimistic and down right boring to read lately.
I've quite enjoyed this flight of fantasy.
When it becomes closer to an NHL09 trade probability than real life it's time to blow the whistle.
If we want to occupy our time while waiting yet another 5 days without a game, I suggest we fire up some chops for the photoshop thread which used to be the primary distraction thread.
britdevil 12-02-2008, 10:51 AM When it becomes closer to an NHL09 trade probability than real life it's time to blow the whistle.
If we want to occupy our time while waiting yet another 5 days without a game, I suggest we fire up some chops for the photoshop thread which used to be the primary distraction thread.
Maybe it is time for the photoshop phoenix to rise from the ashes. Hell, when I started that last year, the board was pretty damn miserable.
Lets do this.
(Ps, I do think this board has to cheer up abit though. Its depressing.)
AfroThunder396 12-02-2008, 10:53 AM Since there is no option for HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO, I just voted no. Someone said earlier that Jagr "wouldn't be the centerpiece of our team". Of course he would, and that's what we don't need. He can say all the right things about being a team player, but once he gets out there it'll be all about him. Quite a few Rangers fans I know were happy to see him go because he wouldn't mesh his game to the teammates that were brought in to help him. Does anybody really want to see that here? Go ahead and call me a homer for not wanting him, but I don't.
No he wouldn't. The Rangers built their entire offense around Jagr, while he would be here to supplement the players we already have.
Marty will always be the centerpiece of our team. Marty knows it, Jagr knows it, and most importantly Lou knows it.
daveskirtun 12-02-2008, 10:56 AM Maybe it is time for the photoshop phoenix to rise from the ashes. Hell, when I started that last year, the board was pretty damn miserable.
Lets do this.
(Ps, I do think this board has to cheer up abit though. Its depressing.)
It's winter. The time when NJ becomes a barren wasteland. Add in, we just lost a pitiful game, don't play til thursday, Marty's still hurt, Harrison needs to get laid, and we have a right to be depressed.
MoonDragn 12-02-2008, 11:10 AM Are you like, 13 years old? We're talking about Jaromir Jagr here. Possibly the greatest European player in the history of the game, who loves to play with his fellow Eastern Bloc brothers.
Elias - Zubrus - Jagr
Yes, yes and triple ****ing yes.
Are you forgetting that Jagr likes to take days off? Particularly on the days we're actually playing?
If he was slacking off at 7 mil, do you think he's gonna play harder at 1.5 mil?
It's winter. The time when NJ becomes a barren wasteland. Add in, we just lost a pitiful game, don't play til thursday, Marty's still hurt, Harrison needs to get laid, and we have a right to be depressed.
Come on, was it a big surprise? We couldn't even keep a 3 goal lead on some of these SE teams and were we expecting to beat the Penguins on a hot streak?
What was pathetic though is that our top two lines couldn't even score on them.
britdevil 12-02-2008, 11:17 AM Are you forgetting that Jagr likes to take days off? Particularly on the days we're actually playing?
If he was slacking off at 7 mil, do you think he's gonna play harder at 1.5 mil?
To be honest, thats ********.
That man was easily the best player in the world during the playoffs.
Clarkson Falls Down 12-02-2008, 11:18 AM The board has quite frankly been uptight, pessimistic and down right boring to read lately.
I've quite enjoyed this flight of fantasy.
I am in whole-hearted agreement.
This board needs to loosen up big time.
It also doesn't help that it feels that we haven't played a game in an eternity.
britdevil 12-02-2008, 11:21 AM I am in whole-hearted agreement.
This board needs to loosen up big time.
It also doesn't help that it feels that we haven't played a game in an eternity.
Imagine if our HHOF goaltender was out for three months and we had lost several key players to injuries, then I would be in total agreement with them. Fire Brent Sutter.
Oh wait....
Brooklyndevil 12-02-2008, 01:16 PM Man, I'll take him in a New York minute.
Das Uber 12-02-2008, 01:28 PM Are you forgetting that Jagr likes to take days off? Particularly on the days we're actually playing?
So? Gionta likes to take years off.
Contract year - 89 points
Sucky
Sucky
Sucky
Contract year - On pace for 70+ points.
Voted no. This team lives and dies with mediocre defense, sub-par finishing of scoring chances and all four checking lines grinding their hearts out. I ´d much rather watch Gio bombard goalie´s chest armour much rather than watch Jagr´s fancy, dandy slickness and dominance of the game :sarcasm:
But to take a brief serious thought of it: I´m not sure, if I wanted Jaromir Jagr on this team. One can´t argue his unique skill set or anything he´s accomplished on his career. And that´s not what the fortcoming few lines are about.
What would be his overall effect on this team? Jagr is one of those rare players that are undeniable centerpieces of hockey teams. Ours is Marty. How would Jagr adapt to this team. His personal skills alone will put him and his linemates too on the scoresheet, but the question is, how would his presence affect the locker room?
Sure, he would definitely have some positive affect just because who he is and how he´s been someone to look up and to find inspiration from especially for guys born in the 1980´s.
But, how would it alter the pecking order of this team and climate of the locker room in general? It is hard to think of Jagr as "just one of the guys doing his job". Will it end being a clash between strong personalities and someone yelling: hii tuk mai jaaabbbb
I´d welcome Jagr with open arms, if he wasn´t riding towards the sunset of his career. To have someone like him for an upcoming team would be a blessing. But just to have him for a quick stint isn´t really what I´d be looking for, especially now that this team wouldn´t be a certain contender even if Jagr, taken a huge discount in salary, was part of this team. With a slightly stronger defense (read: with a number one d-man) it would be another story.
But then again, if Jaromir Jagr somehow came here, anti-euro, lt. col. Sutter would probably hook him up with Rupp and Vrana into his doghouse and his atoi would be around 2-3 minutes per game :laugh:
Drewr15 12-02-2008, 02:57 PM Only if he grows the mullet back
QFT
I would take him for short term as I bet he would be motivated but a longer contract nah.
MoonDragn 12-02-2008, 03:06 PM So? Gionta likes to take years off.
Contract year - 89 points
Sucky
Sucky
Sucky
Contract year - On pace for 70+ points.
and you want to trade Gionta. Why would you want Jagr then?
brule2000 12-02-2008, 03:19 PM I am in whole-hearted agreement.
This board needs to loosen up big time.
It also doesn't help that it feels that we haven't played a game in an eternity.
Amazing how three days off after a loss seems so much longer than after a win.
As for Jagr, at $2 million, of course you take him. If he specifically wants to play for Jersey, does that suggest a grudge against certain personnel at the Rags?
Jagr could easily match Mogilny's impact (first time around!) and with the pressure of expectation reduced by the Devils' reputation and lower remuneration, be an outstanding performer. What a player of his ability and experience doesn't know about the game isn't worth considering; think Sergei Federov.
Looking at it from his perspective is intriguing. Maybe he feels his skills have eroded. He's seen at first hand what the Devs can do with less. He's always played in the "Atlantic" area teams. Pittsburgh would be a circus, the Rangers even more so, Philly are Philly, Washington has too much baggage. That leaves us and the Isles. If he does want back; maybe this destination isn't as far off base as it initially seems.
I give it a 2% possibility.:D
MoonDragn 12-02-2008, 03:24 PM If Jagr was so great, why did the Caps pay half of his salary to dump him on the Rangers?
Richer's Ghost 12-02-2008, 03:27 PM If Jagr was so great, why did the Caps pay half of his salary to dump him on the Rangers?
http://insultants.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/officespace.jpg
Crimson Devil 12-02-2008, 03:29 PM If he wants to play for us, and he's willing to sign for $2 million or under, I say, welcome to Jersey.
BIG if though.
Crimson Devil 12-02-2008, 03:30 PM If Jagr was so great, why did the Caps pay half of his salary to dump him on the Rangers?
Guess you don't really remember those games where Jagr murdered us.
MoonDragn 12-02-2008, 03:32 PM Guess you don't really remember those games where Jagr murdered us.
You mean those games where Madden or Pandolfo was injured?
Pandolfo does a very good job shutting down Jagr, last year he had a field day when Pandolfo was injured.
brule2000 12-02-2008, 03:34 PM If Jagr was so great, why did the Caps pay half of his salary to dump him on the Rangers?
If half his salary had been $750,000, I think they may have kept him.
Jagr can't contribute enough on a team with no system and little talent (Washington in 2003) to be the highest paid player in the league. He could contribute enough on a team with a strong system and average talent to be worth second pair defenseman money, even 5 years later.
Clarkson Falls Down 12-02-2008, 03:35 PM You mean those games where Madden or Pandolfo was injured?
Pandolfo does a very good job shutting down Jagr, last year he had a field day when Pandolfo was injured.
He didn't kill us in the playoffs last year?
MoonDragn 12-02-2008, 03:43 PM He didn't kill us in the playoffs last year?
Pandolfo was not the same after he came back from injury. He seemed to be slower and didn't click with Madden as well. If you noticed we started going downhill in the month of March even before the playoffs.
daveskirtun 12-02-2008, 03:44 PM He didn't kill us in the playoffs last year?
Everyone killed us in the playoffs last year. Except maybe Blair Betts
So? Gionta likes to take years off.
Contract year - 89 points
Sucky
Sucky
Sucky
Contract year - On pace for 70+ points.
I guess Lou needs to give Gio only 1 year deals, so every year would be contract year.
Clarkson Falls Down 12-02-2008, 04:29 PM Pandolfo was not the same after he came back from injury. He seemed to be slower and didn't click with Madden as well. If you noticed we started going downhill in the month of March even before the playoffs.
I noticed the poor play, thanks.
But it refutes your argument that Jagr is invisible when Pandolfo plays.
Jiri Bicek 12-02-2008, 04:36 PM You mean those games where Madden or Pandolfo was injured?
Pandolfo does a very good job shutting down Jagr, last year he had a field day when Pandolfo was injured.
So who will shut down Jagr if Pando and Jagr are on the same team?
Das Uber 12-02-2008, 04:39 PM and you want to trade Gionta. Why would you want Jagr then?
Because I'd rather have a guy who takes days off than years off. Duuuhhhh....
daveskirtun 12-02-2008, 04:40 PM Because I'd rather have a guy who takes days off than years off. Duuuhhhh....
Yeah, but an unmotivated Jagr can still shadow Gio's point production
daveskirtun 12-02-2008, 04:44 PM or eclipse, I don't know. My brains not working well today
rwhite 12-02-2008, 04:51 PM If he really would accept that big of a discount then yes, I'm all for it. He's still an elite talent regardless of his age.
FrankieDevils 12-02-2008, 06:58 PM If we signed Jagr to that cheap, than i would beg for him to come here. However, after we sign Jagr I'd love to trade Gionta away for another offensive defenseman..maybe Bieksa or Ohlund?!
hargsy 12-02-2008, 07:17 PM hahahahahah
:laugh: your a clever one
LMAO, that was gold. Well played sir.
I lawled.
Good one. :laugh:
Best statement ever? I think so
Thanks for your support.....I feel like part of the gang again !!!!!!!!!!!!
Devils Mike 12-02-2008, 08:44 PM Is this 100% true? I mean going from $12m to 2m with taxes seems like a lot to me.
HatTrick89 12-02-2008, 08:56 PM How bout we sign Jagr AND Shanahan...to give Madden some quality wingers for once in his career....Shanny-Madden-Jagr...Madden can teach those guys to play defense and those guys can teach Madden to play offense :laugh:
Das Uber 12-02-2008, 09:04 PM How bout we sign Jagr AND Shanahan...to give Madden some quality wingers for once in his career....Shanny-Madden-Jagr...Madden can teach those guys to play defense and those guys can teach Madden to play offense :laugh:
Madden has pretty good offensive skills. He's just partnered up with Stallonehands. Yeccchh. Seriously, Pando is like a vortex when it comes to offense. He could be paired with Crosby and Malkin and that entire line would probably wouldn't score more than 20 goals.
åboriginal 12-02-2008, 09:48 PM Madden has pretty good offensive skills. He's just partnered up with Stallonehands. Yeccchh. Seriously, Pando is like a vortex when it comes to offense. He could be paired with Crosby and Malkin and that entire line would probably wouldn't score more than 20 goals.
i will seriously crap a rainbow when pando is not devil anymore.
daveskirtun 12-02-2008, 10:27 PM Thanks for your support.....I feel like part of the gang again !!!!!!!!!!!!
You're always part of the gang, my friend. Let no one tell you different
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