News & Scores From Around the League, Part III

Get 'er done!

first!

they closed the Queen thread on the main board, those ********!

i just saw that Roy crosscheck. Why didnt his teammates do anything? they just stood around.

they closed the Queen thread on the main board, those ********!

Did you expect anything less? The minute someone starts something someone is in there to close it down!

i really dont think it was even that bad..no one said he was cheating like that one guy implied

oh well

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Hi guys.

not for nothing, and i hate to be that guy but....can someone offer me solid evidence that the queens pads are as over the limit as most people here claim them to be. im not defending him but it kinda sucks when all we ever do in the marty vs lundqvist talks(which isnt even close career wise), that we immediately talk about pad size. fact is, until this devs squad pulls off their collective skirts, finds their balls and schools lundqvist the same way the rags have owned us for the past couple seasons, this is the weakest argument we have. pad size or not, mere inches or not, they really have to beat him and turn his dominance over us around. although, i dont see massive ice time for pando/madden/clarkson turning anything around anytime soon when were already having trouble scoring against him. starting next game, beat the ****ing swedish outta him and the rest of the team, and go from there. pads schmads.

not for nothing, and i hate to be that guy but....can someone offer me solid evidence that the queens pads are as over the limit as most people here claim them to be. im not defending him but it kinda sucks when all we ever do in the marty vs lundqvist talks(which isnt even close career wise), that we immediately talk about pad size. fact is, until this devs squad pulls off their collective skirts, finds their balls and schools lundqvist the same way the rags have owned us for the past couple seasons, this is the weakest argument we have. pad size or not, mere inches or not, they really have to beat him and turn his dominance over us around. although, i dont see massive ice time for pando/madden/clarkson turning anything around anytime soon when were already having trouble scoring against him. starting next game, beat the ****ing swedish outta him and the rest of the team, and go from there. pads schmads.

oh and before anyone else has the chance....ill take the liberty:D
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd87/sugarfiend06/boo-man.gif

^ Just type "Lundqvist pads" in Google Images

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/swegoalie/Henrik_L.png

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/swegoalie/Henrik_L.png

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/01EF3YW5P62eW/610x.jpg

^ Just type "Lundqvist pads" in Google Images

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/swegoalie/Henrik_L.png

we have a very weak argument if this is all we have to go on. google showed me nothing important, and i see plenty of room to score there. im just playing devils advocate here.

i just threw up in my mouth a little bit

not for nothing, and i hate to be that guy but....can someone offer me solid evidence that the queens pads are as over the limit

They ARENT "over the limit" and I dont know people that claim them to be, but that's not the point. The point is his pads are designed to keep the puck out of the net, not for protection.

SECONDLY, and this is important, many people focus way too much on merely the Swedish StayPuff's pads, but it's the entire package that is the problem. His jersey cut is XXXXXXXXXXXLarge, his chest protector could stop anti-aircraft fire, his glove and cheater are NHL maximum size (and he holds it OPEN to increase volume) etc.....

In short, everything that he is permitted to wear is NHL max'ed out, and he looks ridiculous out there.

I'm sure he would be a very good NHL goalie even if he wore "normal" equipment, but the thing is,,,,,,there's no way to know. And until the NHL changes Rule 21 so all goalies look more like Turco or Brodeur etc... I simply cannot respect him (or Giggy, or Miller, or several others). Combine Lundqvist and his equipment with a team like the Rangers playing "5 defensemen" and it's no wonder his GAA should be low 2ish. I firmly believe these goalies are destroying and making a mockery of the game. There is simply no room for a puck to enter the net on these guys.

You often hear commentators "surprised at how deep Lundqvist plays in the net", which frankly, IMO isnt surprising at all. By doing so he's basically a giant boulder plugging a cave.

we have a very weak argument if this is all we have to go on. google showed me nothing important, and i see plenty of room to score there. im just playing devils advocate here.

They aren't illegal.. Just bigger than what most thing a goalie should be able to wear

You don't see the enormous leg flaps that even overlap each other?

What about looking like an 8 months pregnant Hunchback of Notre Dame ?

There's a link in the old thread (I think when we were discussing goalie size) that shows the pad difference

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/01EF3YW5P62eW/610x.jpg

:shakehead

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/swegoalie/Henrik_L.png

Are you sure that's not photoshopped?

http://www.skate2stick.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/henrik-lundqvist.jpghttp://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2007/12/04/resch-maskx.jpg

Yeah, I mean his pads are definetly too big, but we beat Giguere in '03 who has pads double the size of Lundqvist's. And not to mention that he was playing out of his mind.

I think that the pad thing is a big excuse from our end until we learn to beat him. I mean, ****, the Islanders probably have beat him more than the Devils have.

Yeah, I mean his pads are definetly too big, but we beat Giguere in '03 who has pads double the size of Lundqvist's. And not to mention that he was playing out of his mind.

I think that the pad thing is a big excuse from our end until we learn to beat him. I mean, ****, the Islanders probably have beat him more than the Devils have.

I cant speak for everyone, but from my perspective it's not about HIM; it's about all of THEM that max out on the equipment. They all look equally ridiculous, and they're all destroying the NHL.

They ARENT "over the limit" and I dont know people that claim them to be, but that's not the point. The point is his pads are designed to keep the puck out of the net, not for protection.

SECONDLY, and this is important, many people focus way too much on merely the Swedish StayPuff's pads, but it's the entire package that is the problem. His jersey cut is XXXXXXXXXXXLarge, his chest protector could stop anti-aircraft fire, his glove and cheater are NHL maximum size (and he holds it OPEN to increase volume) etc.....

In short, everything that he is permitted to wear is NHL max'ed out, and he looks ridiculous out there.

I'm sure he would be a very good NHL goalie even if he wore "normal" equipment, but the thing is,,,,,,there's no way to know. And until the NHL changes Rule 21 so all goalies look more like Turco or Brodeur etc... I simply cannot respect him (or Giggy, or Miller, or several others). Combine Lundqvist and his equipment with a team like the Rangers playing "5 defensemen" and it's no wonder his GAA should be low 2ish. I firmly believe these goalies are destroying and making a mockery of the game. There is simply no room for a puck to enter the net on these guys.

You often hear commentators "surprised at how deep Lundqvist plays in the net", which frankly, IMO isnt surprising at all. By doing so he's basically a giant boulder plugging a cave.

i see ur point, and yea i think what i see that makes him more marshy than other goalies is the upper body. the pads being at max i guess just adds to the marshmallowness

http://www.skate2stick.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/henrik-lundqvist.jpghttp://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2007/12/04/resch-maskx.jpg

dear nhl:
wanna increase scoring, make these the standard. and have the hospitals on standby just in case:D.

Yeah, I mean his pads are definetly too big, but we beat Giguere in '03 who has pads double the size of Lundqvist's. And not to mention that he was playing out of his mind.

I think that the pad thing is a big excuse from our end until we learn to beat him. I mean, ****, the Islanders probably have beat him more than the Devils have.

the devs REALLY need to turn this ship around on them and beat them at their own game. im not sure how they can get them outta their heads but the owning needs to stop. instead of bashing the team for
-beyond loathesome pp
-weak pk
-shoddy defense
-weak goals here and there
-dmen not taking stands and protecting marty
-defensive specialist playing most of the game
-offensemen not getting it done
-and taking dumbass penalties, we gripe about pad size. that just sucks a big ol ****. i cant wait until the complete dominance the devs held over the rags a few years ago returns and the DEVILS are the ones in lundqvists noggin.

the reason whyi persoanlly dont like lundqvist (he's a nice guy and ive met him but i hate his style) style is because he wears pads that are the maximum, while only being 6'0. He also use's certain pads that are squared at the top which are to cover up more of the bottem and 5-hole. Unlike RBK pads which are curved almost like a "S" which require more skill to play with. He also has his catcher made stiff as possible so it can cover more room, he CAN NOT close it which is pathetic if you ask me because the point of the catcher is to catch and close on the puck. Another thing is he plays every far in his crease which help cover up more net, unlike other goalies who are told to challenge the shooter. Finally his pads cover up the whole bottem part of the net, post to post, and it is almost impossible to lift the puck in close.

Hope that changed your mind åboriginal ;)

Personally, I think the people compare today's equipment to the ones in the 70's do a disservice to the argument that goal pads need to be trimmed down. Mainly because the equipment was so different and unsafe back then.

If you want to make a resonable argument all you need to do is go back and look at the equipment in the 90's. Go back and watch clips that Mckaylotsofnumbers has on youtube of the 95 playoffs. Look at the size of the equipment that Vernon, Hextall, and Marty himself are wearing. The leg pads stop at the goalies knees. For Hextall you can barely tell he is wearing shoulder pads. And if you look at the goals from back then you see a lot of five hole goals that wouldn't go through these day. Take a look at this picture of Mike Richter, which is 10 years old at the most, and compare it to Lundqvist. The difference in pad size is crazy.

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nhl/2000/0202/photo/s_0202mike.jpg

Also looking at other pictures and videos from years past, notice the way the pads turn now when a goaltender drops down in order to square up and take up more room. If you look Marty's pads, or the other old style pads, don't do that. That is another thing the league needs to address.

the reason whyi persoanlly dont like lundqvist (he's a nice guy and ive met him but i hate his style) style is because he wears pads that are the maximum, while only being 6'0. He also use's certain pads that are squared at the top which are to cover up more of the bottem and 5-hole. Unlike RBK pads which are curved almost like a "S" which require more skill to play with. He also has his catcher made stiff as possible so it can cover more room, he CAN NOT close it which is pathetic if you ask me because the point of the catcher is to catch and close on the puck. Another thing is he plays every far in his crease which help cover up more net, unlike other goalies who are told to challenge the shooter. Finally his pads cover up the whole bottem part of the net, post to post, and it is almost impossible to lift the puck in close.

Hope that changed your mind åboriginal ;)

Personally, I think the people compare today's equipment to the ones in the 70's do a disservice to the argument that goal pads need to be trimmed down. Mainly because the equipment was so different and unsafe back then.

If you want to make a resonable argument all you need to do is go back and look at the equipment in the 90's. Go back and watch clips that Mckaylotsofnumbers has on youtube of the 95 playoffs. Look at the size of the equipment that Vernon, Hextall, and Marty himself are wearing. The leg pads stop at the goalies knees. For Hextall you can barely tell he is wearing shoulder pads. And if you look at the goals from back then you see a lot of five hole goals that wouldn't go through these day. Take a look at this picture of Mike Richter, which is 10 years old at the most, and compare it to Lundqvist. The difference in pad size is crazy.

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nhl/2000/0202/photo/s_0202mike.jpg

Also looking at other pictures and videos from years past, notice the way the pads turn now when a goaltender drops down in order to square up and take up more room. If you look Marty's pads, or the other old style pads, don't do that. That is another thing the league needs to address.

these are just the sortve arguments i was looking for. i hate just saying to obnoxious rag fans that lundqvist is teh staypuft without having valid reasons that they can understand:laugh:. if this is what the nhl has in plan then its going to be a whole different ball game next season:nod:. up is down, left is right, and so on. id have to say the worst ive seen so far, has been giguere. when they get back to the pads from the 90s, itll def be interesting. goaltenders aside, im looking forward to seeing just how many goals ovechkin can score. hopefully 60 will be on a dejected queenie:D.

not for nothing, and i hate to be that guy but....can someone offer me solid evidence that the queens pads are as over the limit as most people here claim them to be. im not defending him but it kinda sucks when all we ever do in the marty vs lundqvist talks(which isnt even close career wise), that we immediately talk about pad size. fact is, until this devs squad pulls off their collective skirts, finds their balls and schools lundqvist the same way the rags have owned us for the past couple seasons, this is the weakest argument we have. pad size or not, mere inches or not, they really have to beat him and turn his dominance over us around. although, i dont see massive ice time for pando/madden/clarkson turning anything around anytime soon when were already having trouble scoring against him. starting next game, beat the ****ing swedish outta him and the rest of the team, and go from there. pads schmads.

Its just the fact once he goes down he doesn't need to the move :laugh:............Thats what pisses me off so much. If teams can make him move to save the puck u have better shot of scoring on him. Devils aren't making him move to stop the puck they just keep shooting at his dam big pads, which nothing will go through since there so big.


Its not that they are illegal it the fact that they are at maximum level.

Personally, I think the people compare today's equipment to the ones in the 70's do a disservice to the argument that goal pads need to be trimmed down. Mainly because the equipment was so different and unsafe back then.

If you want to make a resonable argument all you need to do is go back and look at the equipment in the 90's. Go back and watch clips that Mckaylotsofnumbers has on youtube of the 95 playoffs. Look at the size of the equipment that Vernon, Hextall, and Marty himself are wearing. The leg pads stop at the goalies knees. For Hextall you can barely tell he is wearing shoulder pads. And if you look at the goals from back then you see a lot of five hole goals that wouldn't go through these day. Take a look at this picture of Mike Richter, which is 10 years old at the most, and compare it to Lundqvist. The difference in pad size is crazy.

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nhl/2000/0202/photo/s_0202mike.jpg

Also looking at other pictures and videos from years past, notice the way the pads turn now when a goaltender drops down in order to square up and take up more room. If you look Marty's pads, or the other old style pads, don't do that. That is another thing the league needs to address.

I miss the pads looking like that. Growing up, my buddy had the Richter poster and I had the Brodeur poster. It was probably 3 years ago when I was at his house and was like "wtf happened to pads being normal and looking like that?" and its been all downhill since. This is the poster I'm talking about, but I can't find the Richter one...

http://www.sportsposterwarehouse.com/catImages/brodeur98sl-1.jpg

If you want to make a resonable argument all you need to do is go back and look at the equipment in the 90's. Go back and watch clips that Mckaylotsofnumbers has on youtube of the 95 playoffs. Look at the size of the equipment that Vernon, Hextall, and Marty himself are wearing. The leg pads stop at the goalies knees. For Hextall you can barely tell he is wearing shoulder pads. And if you look at the goals from back then you see a lot of five hole goals that wouldn't go through these day. Take a look at this picture of Mike Richter, which is 10 years old at the most, and compare it to Lundqvist. The difference in pad size is crazy.

And most importantly, it's not like goalies were going down with injuries any more back then than they are now, which is perhaps the most conclusive proof that the equipment size has nothing to do with safety. The absolute most laughable argument are the dolts who talk about the new synthetic sticks as why they need bigger padding :biglaugh: These sticks only add a few MPH to the shots which isnt significant, plus even in the brief age of the synthetic stick, NO ONE has cranked a recorded shot as fast as McGinnis or Iafrate did back with WOOD!

because wood is good

http://www.sportsposterwarehouse.com/catImages/brodeur98sl-1.jpg

i remember when there were all those player posters. i had so ****ing many. robitaille, like 6 mogilny, marty(not that one), nicholls, nieds, selänne, sanderson, roy etc...i had so many on my wall and i collected them so much i had to rotate them:D. then i found out last year my mom cleaned out the attic, and all she threw out was my collection of posters. not just hockey, all my other random posters. gee whiz mom, that really made the never visited attic so much neater for nobody. cept maybe the wasps and spider. **** all now im mad.

because wood is good

Mark my word (and I've been saying this for over a year now), there WILL BE A RETURN TO WOOD sticks one day.

Synthetic sticks LOSE more games than they win. They are CRAP. All they are is a marketing and manufacturing scam put over on the general hockey playing public.

At any rate, if I were a coach I would forbid my defensemen from using synthetic sticks.

Mark my word (and I've been saying this for over a year now), there WILL BE A RETURN TO WOOD sticks one day.

Synthetic sticks LOSE more games than they win. They are CRAP. All they are is a marketing and manufacturing scam put over on the general hockey playing public.

At any rate, if I were a coach I would forbid my defensemen from using synthetic sticks.

i tried aluminum, carbon fiber and all that other crap and nothing was like the wood sticks. the only time i broke sticks was when id get pissed and slam them on something. to each his/her own of course, but i swear by the wooden sticks.

i remember when there were all those player posters. i had so ****ing many. robitaille, like 6 mogilny, marty(not that one), nicholls, nieds, selänne, sanderson, roy etc...i had so many on my wall and i collected them so much i had to rotate them:D. then i found out last year my mom cleaned out the attic, and all she threw out was my collection of posters. not just hockey, all my other random posters. gee whiz mom, that really made the never visited attic so much neater for nobody. cept maybe the wasps and spider. **** all now im mad.

Yea, the Starline posters. They are pretty sweet, and discontinued obviously. I wish they weren't though, great 1990s feel. I bought a new Marty one because my old one was starting to rip and whatnot. I haven't put it up yet because I may be moving soon and I have no room, not to mention, I want to frame it first.

Mason earned the shutout tonight

I love how the game on Versus tonight ended up 0-0 going into the shootout.

I love how the game on Versus tonight ended up 0-0 going into the shootout.

well thats ok, as long as it isnt the devils. theyre so boring.

these are just the sortve arguments i was looking for. i hate just saying to obnoxious rag fans that lundqvist is teh staypuft without having valid reasons that they can understand:laugh:. if this is what the nhl has in plan then its going to be a whole different ball game next season:nod:. up is down, left is right, and so on. id have to say the worst ive seen so far, has been giguere. when they get back to the pads from the 90s, itll def be interesting. goaltenders aside, im looking forward to seeing just how many goals ovechkin can score. hopefully 60 will be on a dejected queenie:D.

Unfortunately they are not going back to those pads. Neither the goalies, or the manufacturers will allow it. They will make changes but it will be minimal.

I cant speak for everyone, but from my perspective it's not about HIM; it's about all of THEM that max out on the equipment. They all look equally ridiculous, and they're all destroying the NHL.

He doesn't even bother me that much. Other than those ****ing flaps should be tied down to his legs.

You often hear commentators "surprised at how deep Lundqvist plays in the net", which frankly, IMO isnt surprising at all. By doing so he's basically a giant boulder plugging a cave.


BINGO. That's the only problem I have with THAT part of the NYR. However, ab-O definitely has a point (which all of us are painfully aware of)... they're winning way too many games against us. The man needs to be scored on. For crying out loud, did anyone watch VAN play them last time?!!? The Devils just need to suck it up and SCORE.

However, jesus ****ing christ that chest protector has got to go. That's just insane, NYR fans... insane. No need for that. HE doesn't even need that thing. Give him some gear he can move in.

this is getting a lttle ridiculous now, pads his size are used by a lot of goalies throughout the league and to say he is no good and just stand their with his lehs out is the most ignorant statement i have every heard. Henrik is always kicking out a rebound thats what makes his great in goal his legs. up higher he is weak. Luongo takes up the whole goal with his equiptment. Im a kings fan that lives in Nj by i get to see alot of ranger devs and islanders games. Believe from watching the kings these 3 goalies roberto, henrik and marty, they way they track the puck and make these saves in incredible. IMO they are the cream of the crop in the league. Pads or no pads i wish the kings had any one of them. Our goalie cant make these saves with the same size pads Stop sounding whiny it will just give the ranger fans something to laugh about. From the games ive seen henik needs to be screened and shot up hish on. I believe many devil fans are a little bitter cause of his success against them in recent years. Complaining about pad size will not accomplish anything thats the wy it is and this guy will be playing aginst you in your division for the next 10 years. You guys are better then that.

this is getting a lttle ridiculous now, pads his size are used by a lot of goalies throughout the league and to say he is no good and just stand their with his lehs out is the most ignorant statement i have every heard. Henrik is always kicking out a rebound thats what makes his great in goal his legs. up higher he is weak. Luongo takes up the whole goal with his equiptment. Im a kings fan that lives in Nj by i get to see alot of ranger devs and islanders games. Believe from watching the kings these 3 goalies roberto, henrik and marty, they way they track the puck and make these saves in incredible. IMO they are the cream of the crop in the league. Pads or no pads i wish the kings had any one of them. Our goalie cant make these saves with the same size pads Stop sounding whiny it will just give the ranger fans something to laugh about. From the games ive seen henik needs to be screened and shot up hish on. I believe many devil fans are a little bitter cause of his success against them in recent years. Complaining about pad size will not accomplish anything thats the wy it is and this guy will be playing aginst you in your division for the next 10 years. You guys are better then that.


Well if he is so good (and he is), then he won't suffer when the NHL gets their **** together and bans leg pads that go up to the goalie's waist.

And don't tell me that butterfly goalies need that extra padding for protection....
http://www.pickuphockey.com/forum/avatars/patrick_roy_mtl3.jpg

this is getting a lttle ridiculous now, pads his size are used by a lot of goalies throughout the league and to say he is no good and just stand their with his lehs out is the most ignorant statement i have every heard.

Stop sounding whiny it will just give the ranger fans something to laugh about. From the games ive seen henik needs to be screened and shot up hish on. I believe many devil fans are a little bitter cause of his success against them in recent years. Complaining about pad size will not accomplish anything thats the wy it is and this guy will be playing aginst you in your division for the next 10 years. You guys are better then that.

not so fast my friend...

what you said

see this isnt about constantly complaining, this whole discussion in here started when i simply asked for proof about either pad size or whatever else. lets not get this into an easily lockable thread, because we like this thread round these parts. again were not complaining or being rediculous, so dont come in here and ask us to basically knock it off and stop whining.

this is getting a lttle ridiculous now, pads his size are used by a lot of goalies throughout the league and to say he is no good and just stand their with his lehs out is the most ignorant statement i have every heard. Henrik is always kicking out a rebound thats what makes his great in goal his legs. up higher he is weak. Luongo takes up the whole goal with his equiptment. Im a kings fan that lives in Nj by i get to see alot of ranger devs and islanders games. Believe from watching the kings these 3 goalies roberto, henrik and marty, they way they track the puck and make these saves in incredible. IMO they are the cream of the crop in the league. Pads or no pads i wish the kings had any one of them. Our goalie cant make these saves with the same size pads Stop sounding whiny it will just give the ranger fans something to laugh about. From the games ive seen henik needs to be screened and shot up hish on. I believe many devil fans are a little bitter cause of his success against them in recent years. Complaining about pad size will not accomplish anything thats the wy it is and this guy will be playing aginst you in your division for the next 10 years. You guys are better then that.

I just dont like the fact that a normal sized human can block the entire net without playing the angle. He can cover the entire bottom of the net with his pads, and his shoulder pads look as bad as Giguere in 2003. He is a incredible goalie, a top 3 goaltender, but come on, he looks ridiculous. At least even the playing field a little bit, there is no chance of a five hole goal on him.

thats the thing, rangers fans think were saying he isnt a good goalie...and i dont think one person has said that

its just a little ridiculous that he needs to use pads so big

Anyone else think there is a resemblence with Dubinsky and Tyler Hansbrough of UNC?

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2008/writers/grant_wahl/03/06/the.bag/hansbrough_text.jpg

Now i do :laugh:

see this isnt about constantly complaining, this whole discussion in here started when i simply asked for proof about either pad size or whatever else. lets not get this into an easily lockable thread, because we like this thread round these parts. again were not complaining or being rediculous, so dont come in here and ask us to basically knock it off and stop whining.



around these parts? I live in NJ im am a kings fan but above all else im a hockey fan so i'll watch what i can whenever i can. Listen his pads aren't illeagal and one poster said all he does is fall and cover the bottom of the net. I was just staing fact that henrik has some of the quickest legs in the business and thats why he is great. Marty and Luongo ar much better up high and with their glove but i think henrik has them beat down low and that is partially due to age. Im in agreement about the pad sizes they are too big I honestly am not here to argue that with you guys. IMO backstrom in minny and giggy in anaheim are the biggest offenders of what most of you say Lundqvist is doing. The whining comment didnt pertain to the fan base, I love going to devil games and talking to their fans they are very knowledge able about hockey but while reading this thread an outsider can take it as a view that some of you are saying henrik is not that good its mostly equitment. a statement which i do not agree with. Im not here to ruffle feathers i love this area and the competitiveness of these teams. The main reason it is so comptetive is from top notch goal keeping i watch almost every night.

around these parts? I live in NJ im am a kings fan but above all else im a hockey fan so i'll watch what i can whenever i can. Listen his pads aren't illeagal and one poster said all he does is fall and cover the bottom of the net. I was just staing fact that henrik has some of the quickest legs in the business and thats why he is great. Marty and Luongo ar much better up high and with their glove but i think henrik has them beat down low and that is partially due to age. Im in agreement about the pad sizes they are too big I honestly am not here to argue that with you guys. IMO backstrom in minny and giggy in anaheim are the biggest offenders of what most of you say Lundqvist is doing. The whining comment didnt pertain to the fan base, I love going to devil games and talking to their fans they are very knowledge able about hockey but while reading this thread an outsider can take it as a view that some of you are saying henrik is not that good its mostly equitment. a statement which i do not agree with. Im not here to ruffle feathers i love this area and the competitiveness of these teams. The main reason it is so comptetive is from top notch goal keeping i watch almost every night.

He's talking about in here. Not where you live.

If an outsider thought that, after MOST of the people in here have continually said he's good...well then they're just looking to flame and they need to learn how to read!

IMO backstrom in minny and giggy in anaheim are the biggest offenders of what most of you say Lundqvist is doing. The whining comment didnt pertain to the fan base, I love going to devil games and talking to their fans they are very knowledge able about hockey but while reading this thread an outsider can take it as a view that some of you are saying henrik is not that good its mostly equitment. a statement which i do not agree with.

While there may be some here that are "Lundqvist obsessed", I think 90% of people here realize this is a problem that is NHL wide. Of the 60 goalies in the NHL, probably 20 of them (about 1/3) fall in the "ridiculous" bucket, it's just that Lundqvist, Luongo, Giggy, Legace, etc... are the most famous examples.

around these parts? I live in NJ im am a kings fan but above all else im a hockey fan so i'll watch what i can whenever i can. Listen his pads aren't illeagal and one poster said all he does is fall and cover the bottom of the net. I was just staing fact that henrik has some of the quickest legs in the business and thats why he is great. Marty and Luongo ar much better up high and with their glove but i think henrik has them beat down low and that is partially due to age. Im in agreement about the pad sizes they are too big I honestly am not here to argue that with you guys. IMO backstrom in minny and giggy in anaheim are the biggest offenders of what most of you say Lundqvist is doing. The whining comment didnt pertain to the fan base, I love going to devil games and talking to their fans they are very knowledge able about hockey but while reading this thread an outsider can take it as a view that some of you are saying henrik is not that good its mostly equitment. a statement which i do not agree with. Im not here to ruffle feathers i love this area and the competitiveness of these teams. The main reason it is so comptetive is from top notch goal keeping i watch almost every night.

yea i just meant these message boards. not the fantabulous state that is new jersey. i cant speak for everyone, but i think hes a damn good goalie....but yea the padding can sometimes make u say wtf. giguere is obviously the worst. there was one pic a few years back where they showed his chest protector practically strangling him it was so bulky.

whyi think minny will let backstrom walk. While he has a good Gaa and sv% he plays postionially sound but ithink harding is the better athlete and keeper. More of his save look as if he gets hit by them and not attacking the puck is anyone understands what im saying.

Anyone else think there is a resemblence with Dubinsky and Tyler Hansbrough of UNC?



Talking about look alikes:

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http://msn.foxsports.com/fe/img/NHL/Headshots/140x170/1774.jpg

what do you think? too much of a stretch?

nah i can see it moondragn

whyi think minny will let backstrom walk. While he has a good Gaa and sv% he plays postionially sound but ithink harding is the better athlete and keeper. More of his save look as if he gets hit by them and not attacking the puck is anyone understands what im saying.

The mark of a good positional goalie is one who is getting hit by a lot of pucks. That means he is relying less on physical talent and more on his technique, which leaves less room for error.

take a look at the first goal scorer for the AWAY team:

http://scores.espn.go.com/nhl/boxscore?gameId=281126029

:handclap:

take a look at the first goal scorer for the AWAY team:

http://scores.espn.go.com/nhl/boxscore?gameId=281126029

:handclap:

i dont even have to look, go hale!

islanders blew a 3-0 lead and trail 4-3

islanders blew a 3-0 lead and trail 4-3

:facepalm:

haha "lundqvist never wants to make the first move"

*****. :D

The lightning are dumb they are all going five hole on Lundqvist.

Rangers end up getting the win in a so

Wtf Islanders

Heres the skinny.

i'm in 2 different fantasy leagues.

Pick up Kiprusoff - Calgary goes into a tailspin.
Dump Thomas - Boston goes 9-0-1 since (ish)
Pick up Miller - Buffalo loses 4 straight
Pick up Thomas - loses tonight.
Pick up McDonald - loses tonight.

I'm a goalie killer. If you want to know who NOT to play, ask me who I am playing.

EDIT: and if you're curious as to how i'm spending my night, http://www.justin.tv/hateme Sharks v Hawks

I suggest you pick up Lundqvist, and keep him for, oh let me see, forever.

how were kiprusoff, miller and thomas FAs?

Speaking of goalies, i saw this pic, and it is such a good shot, thought id post it.

http://sharkspage.com/jpgs5/blackhawks3.jpg

Khabibulin in:
Sin City 2

Mike Smith is a good goalie choice, but he may never win a game.

Why did the Hawks put Huet in?

Why did the Hawks put Huet in?
Khabi went down with an injury, unspecified. It didn't look that bad, but he went face down while the play continued, nearly cost the Hawks a goal.

wow, i didnt even realize they were on a 12 game win streak. thats like 09 dynasty mode status right there

Meh, Clowe and Thornton made Keith look silly there.

Khabi went down with an injury, unspecified. It didn't look that bad, but he went face down while the play continued, nearly cost the Hawks a goal.

he was real gimpy going out the door. could be the groin.

he was real gimpy going out the door. could be the groin.
As someone who likes seeing the Hawks win, I hope he's okay. They need him.

As someone who likes seeing the Hawks win, I hope he's okay. They need him.

Has huet been that bad. I've haven't watched the Hawks at all this year. I always thought Huet was a good goalie and still think Washington was stupid for letting him walk.

Has huet been that bad. I've haven't watched the Hawks at all this year. I always thought Huet was a good goalie and still think Washington was stupid for letting him walk.
He's been okay, but Khabibulan has been very good. The Hawks have a good defense but it's not a great defensive defense - they've got great puck movement and shooting, but not great positional defense and puck clearing. Khabibulan compensates for a lot of that.

Those sharks alternate jerseys remind me alot of dallas's normal ones. otherwise theyre pretty nice.

Those sharks alternate jerseys remind me alot of dallas's normal ones. otherwise theyre pretty nice.
I'm not a big fan of having the player's number everywhere. It makes the jersey a little bit too busy. Otherwise I like them.

i hate numbers on the fronts of jerseys. Its silly. Especially when you have the NHL logo, team logo, possible C or A, and players number on the front of jerseys it just looks bad. Heck some teams have taken to writing out the cities name on the fronts as well. How much is too much.

i hate numbers on the fronts of jerseys. Its silly. Especially when you have the NHL logo, team logo, possible C or A, and players number on the front of jerseys it just looks bad. Heck some teams have taken to writing out the cities name on the fronts as well. How much is too much.
Too much? Putting a nickname on a jersey instead of a team name. That's too much.

Too much? Putting a nickname on a jersey instead of a team name. That's too much.

indeed. Stupid Bolts.

I just saw the Blues 3rd jersey must say that i'm a big fan of. I'm digging the logo. I still don't like Pittsburgh powder blues. I like the circle logo but the color bothers me. I hate the Coyotes logo and LA's new ones. I'm fairly unimpressed with most of the 3rd jerseys to be honest except for the throwbacks like Phillys, Vancouver, Edmonton, and the Isles. Unfortunately Buffalo had to go and screw up an awesome jersey.

The Blues new alternate is nice, but borrows a lot from Minnesota's home.

Damn the Kings for claiming Kyle Quincey. I wanted that guy so much.

At least we have Sheldon Brookbank. :yo:

indeed. Stupid Bolts.

And Sens.....:shakehead

I just saw the Blues 3rd jersey must say that i'm a big fan of. I'm digging the logo. I still don't like Pittsburgh powder blues. I like the circle logo but the color bothers me.

I love the Blues ones. The Pens' ones look like ***** jerseys, but I love that color.

i am in love with islanders/edmonton throwbacks.

i wish we could somehow do the same setup with Red green and white. I would love to see what it would look like.

i am in love with islanders/edmonton throwbacks.

i wish we could somehow do the same setup with Red green and white. I would love to see what it would look like.

i would love it and itd look awesome. too bad lou is a dolt sometimes. also, since people have been on the jersey talk kick, i might as well add 2 cents. i ****ing despise the numbers on the front, **** looks rediculous. dallas especially has a completely ****ered jersey. the isles, sabres, nucks and blues 3rds i do like. i wish the isles would return back to that jersey permanantly also. oh and would the sabres please for the love of god, go back to their original and BEST logo/jersey. there were not many jerseys better than their original and they ****ing killed it. i mean the buffaslug....ugh. glad i dont follow those guys.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=577350

Devils prospect hits a referee.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=577350

Devils prospect hits a referee.

Finally!!!







:sarcasm:

haha whoopsie

It looked intentional, but weak. Surprised he went down like that.

It looked intentional, but weak. Surprised he went down like that.

PAUSE!!

PAUSE!!

WOW! Must be the wine speaking. :sarcasm:

WOW! Must be the wine speaking. :sarcasm:

I've sobered up now....

I'm watching Home Alone 2 and i'm stuffed!!

I've sobered up now....

I'm watching Home Alone 2 and i'm stuffed!!

PAUSE! HAAAAAAAAA :sarcasm:

I've sobered up now....

I'm watching Home Alone 2 and i'm stuffed!!

Home Alone is awesome. I used to be scared of the pigeon lady. Always watch the first two at Christmas.

Viuhkola, the guy penciled into everyone's top line coming into '07-'08.

Home Alone is awesome. I used to be scared of the pigeon lady. Always watch the first two at Christmas.

The second one has been on a lot the last week or so. I'm watching it right now on Encore.

rockband 2 is a great way to work off those extra helpings and apple pie...

Home Alone is awesome. I used to be scared of the pigeon lady. Always watch the first two at Christmas.

I made such an awesome home alone joke at the dinner table. My mother was freaking out that she forgot to bring something out, and I said "everythings here......................KEVIN!" omg im so funny

Go easy on the Pepsi.

I made such an awesome home alone joke at the dinner table. My mother was freaking out that she forgot to bring something out, and I said "everythings here......................KEVIN!" omg im so funny

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hahahahhahaah is it weird this is EXACTLY what i thought of when i read his post too?

you guys are just jealous

I'm jealous, I need turkey. I can't wait for Christmas dinner.

hahaha guerin stoned on a breakaway, then blake wheeler scores like 20 seconds later, and right off the faceoff boston scores again

typical islanders hockey

Belak traded to Nashville for Nick Tarnasky.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/flapanthers/2008/11/panthers-trade.html

i want bouwmeester.

Wouldnt you figure the big "epic" moment for the Rangers would be finally winning the cup in 1994? All I see is the fluffing of the Mattaeu goal for the "Epic Endings" special.
Also, I cant imagine what it feels like to be a Cats fan, they claw back (gimme those ribs you) and yet again blow it by going down 3-2. It also is disheartening to see Craig Anderson smiling and laughing during a break after he just gave up the go ahead goal.
Ugh

Voros is a total piece of ****. I would have cross checked him in his ****ing teeth for that **** he's pulled in this period.

It really doesnt matter how many penalties the Rangers take, the Cats are playing as hard as the wonderful senior citizens who take up 99% of that awful state.
Edit: Well, now a 1:45 2 man advantage is coming up for the Cats. Come on, give me something to watch, I am home on a Friday night ****ed up on codine because I have some mutant strain of a flu that wont go away.

It really doesnt matter how many penalties the Rangers take, the Cats are playing as hard as the wonderful senior citizens who take up 99% of that awful state.
Edit: Well, now a 1:45 2 man advantage is coming up for the Cats. Come on, give me something to watch, I am home on a Friday night ****ed up on codine because I have some mutant strain of a flu that wont go away.
and the cats dissapoint. and take a penalty.

panthers dont need the other team to clear the puck out on a PP, they do that by themselves :help:

Cut that awful state off at the Georgia border and send it seaworthy.

It really doesnt matter how many penalties the Rangers take, the Cats are playing as hard as the wonderful senior citizens who take up 99% of that awful state.
Edit: Well, now a 1:45 2 man advantage is coming up for the Cats. Come on, give me something to watch, I am home on a Friday night ****ed up on codine because I have some mutant strain of a flu that wont go away.

It's called AIDS.

MSG has the most douchy, self fluffing, pompous advertising for there own network ever.

It's called AIDS.

Time to start fitting myself for a robe.

Codine rules, they need to start making mixed drinks with this ****.

Trautwig: "There is no way a fan in Denver is as intense as a fan in New York"
And people wonder why I have such a pure hatred for the Rangers. What a ********* thing to put in a commercial.

Time to start fitting myself for a robe.

Codine rules, they need to start making mixed drinks with this ****.

Make it oxycodone and you've got a deal. ;)

Make it oxycodone and you've got a deal. ;)
Damn ****ing straight. All I have left is this stupid sore throat and not only does codine get rid of it in a second, its pretty much mushrooms in a bottle.

Trautwig: "There is no way a fan in Denver is as intense as a fan in New York"
And people wonder why I have such a pure hatred for the Rangers. What a ********* thing to put in a commercial.

i'm surprised MSG Networks havent deemed MSG to be the "most historic indoor space in the world" yet.

i mean, does the Sistine Chapel have anything on turquoise seats in an awful arrangement for NHL games?

booth is so ****ing awesome :yo:

Damn ****ing straight. All I have left is this stupid sore throat and not only does codine get rid of it in a second, its pretty much mushrooms in a bottle.

Yeah it's great.

and

Stevens
1st 2009

for

David Booth

booth scores again to tie it to go to OT

Booth ****ing rules

so the Rangers are going to win another shootout this season?

J-Bo
Booth

for

Rolston
Holik
Greene
2nd

so the Rangers are going to win another shootout this season?

exactly what i said when i saw booth score.

also, wonderful play by redden there. :laugh:

i'm surprised MSG Networks havent deemed MSG to be the "most historic indoor space in the world" yet.

i mean, does the Sistine Chapel have anything on turquoise seats in an awful arrangement for NHL games?

It would be nice if MSG had some ****ing modesty. That nice, a couple cool things happened in your arena and your hockey team managed to win a cup almost 20 years ago, we get it. :naughty:

floridas playing man defense.

wow the ice is terrible out there.

Damn. Dan Boyle has more points than any of our players except Zach.

Its painfully obvious what the outcome of this game is going to be.

floridas playing man defense.

wow the ice is terrible out there.

this game could have easily been like 5-5 if not for how ****ing terrible that ice is. Both teams missed great chances due to bouncing pucks on passes and ****.

Then again, if not for that, maybe Booth nor Oduya scores last night.


The officiating is atrocious.

Penalty Cats, good luck bros.

Damn. Dan Boyle has more points than any of our players except Zach.

everyone on san jose is hot right now pointswise

They literally cannot pass the puck longer than 2 feet without it bouncing.

i feel so bad for j-bo, gives cullimore a perfect tape to tape breakaway pass and....

...he misses it.

shootout time, i wonder whos gonna win.

Damn. Dan Boyle has more points than any of our players except Zach.

ill spin it a better way, boyle has more points then anyone on the rangers :laugh:

The Atlantic Division hands 1 pointers to SE teams like they are at a soup kitchen.

another shootout win. :shakehead

so the Rangers are going to win another shootout this season?

anyone want the lotto numbers?

Why does anyone even bother to shoot low on Star Jones?

another shootout win. :shakehead

no need to worry, they aer seriously screwed in the playoffs without an elite sniper and the best part No shootouts

The Sioux are on NHL Network right now, kicking ass.

The Sioux are on NHL Network right now, kicking ass.

that was such a good way to start the third for them

The Sioux are on NHL Network right now, kicking ass.

I want the NHL Network for Christmas.

riley nash, snipe

I should have went to college in North Dakota. Best college jersey and team name ever

i ****ing love college hockey

whoever dallas's backup goalie has a sick ****ing mask

edit: tobias stephan?

the stars announcers talking about the movie the Love Guru

Anchor 1: "At least it had a little hockey in it"

Anchor 2: "I wish it had a little comedy in it!"

so the Rangers are going to win another shootout this season?
I've been thinking the same thing. They're 6-1 in shootouts this season.

The Rangers with another shootout win...of course... :shakehead

Where would they be without the shootout? It's getting bizarre really.

The Rangers with another shootout win...of course... :shakehead

Where would they be with the shootout? It's getting bizarre really.

It is getting sickening to watch from this end as well, especially since i hate the shootout to begin with. The worst part is that they seem to actually play the OT like they want to get to the shootout. I guess when you have a goaltender who is pretty good in shootouts you don't mind letting it get to that stage. You guys should know what i mean, Brodeur did have the most career shootout wins up until he got hurt and could very well still have the most.

It is getting sickening to watch from this end as well, especially since i hate the shootout to begin with. The worst part is that they seem to actually play the OT like they want to get to the shootout. I guess when you have a goaltender who is pretty good in shootouts you don't mind letting it get to that stage. You guys should know what i mean, Brodeur did have the most career shootout wins up until he got hurt and could very well still have the most.

Not a big fan of the shootout either.........whether we're good or bad at it.
I see the saves the goalies are making, and ...........some of them are gonna get hurt making saves that way.

It is getting sickening to watch from this end as well, especially since i hate the shootout to begin with. The worst part is that they seem to actually play the OT like they want to get to the shootout. I guess when you have a goaltender who is pretty good in shootouts you don't mind letting it get to that stage. You guys should know what i mean, Brodeur did have the most career shootout wins up until he got hurt and could very well still have the most.

Wow, you sound a little apathetic. And be careful what you wish for.:sarcasm:

Would you rather see another boneheaded play by Michael Rozsival that perhaps costs the NYR the game in OT? You should actually be happy the NYR don't do anything stupid in OT.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the strategy of playing to your teams greatest strength (Henrik Lundqvist) and assuring it gets to the level of where he seems to play best, (shootout) and relying on perhaps his greatest attribute (his exceptional lateral movement)

Thomas Pock on waivers Saturday. - TSN

The Blues 3rd jerseys really are awesome.

Backes just ****ed up visnovsky

Backes just ****ed up visnovsky

Fight? Hit?

Fight? Hit?

Hit him really hard into the boards, was down for a good two minutes and got help, but skated off the ice. looks like a concussion to me

Hit him really hard into the boards, was down for a good two minutes and got help, but skated off the ice. looks like a concussion to me

haha damn.

nice, Toronto vs Philly on nhl network. cant wait to see Stempniak on the leafs.

LMAO rags lost to FL 4-0

LMAO rags lost to FL 4-0

wow, i saw someone in the vBookie thread for that, and they put all their vcash on florida, and i was like, what a ****in idiot....shows how much i know

wow, i saw someone in the vBookie thread for that, and they put all their vcash on florida, and i was like, what a ****in idiot....shows how much i know

Man I would have won big because I never put it on the rags. At first I was like no that score is wrong so I turned it on and just started laughing really hard :laugh:


Stay Puft got taken out once again. Well they only beat them last time in a shootout so I guess we should have saw it coming in a way.


What they get for claiming they are the best team in the East

Lundqvist's ego took another hit....:naughty:

..got yanked after allowing 3 on 23 shots. I'm guessing it was him pulling himself again. Why is that every time things get a bit rough Lundqvist exits from the games? It's like he can't handle it when things start going bad....

Lundqvist's ego took another hit....:naughty:

..got yanked after allowing 3 on 23 shots. I'm guessing it was him pulling himself again. Why is that every time things get a bit rough Lundqvist exits from the games? It's like he can't handle it when things start going bad....

thats what i really hate about him. he wont play when it goes rough, and doesnt he not play the flyers or toronto?

Lundqvist's ego took another hit....:naughty:

..got yanked after allowing 3 on 23 shots. I'm guessing it was him pulling himself again. Why is that every time things get a bit rough Lundqvist exits from the games? It's like he can't handle it when things start going bad....

One of his biggest flaws is his mental weakness. He's way too hard on himself and holds on to **** too much. I think that is just evident of it. You're not going to win a cup if you can't handle some adversity. I remember games, even in Colorado, where Roy would give up 6-7 goals in a game before being yanked. He's a legend and HOF goalie...you're gonna have horrible games and it's going to be more than once a season. That is something which will impede Lundqvist his entire career if he can't learn to curb that ****.

Not that I care, but from a hockey perspective, that is how it is.

Lundqvist's ego took another hit....:naughty:

..got yanked after allowing 3 on 23 shots. I'm guessing it was him pulling himself again. Why is that every time things get a bit rough Lundqvist exits from the games? It's like he can't handle it when things start going bad....

Ya y would u pull your self after only 3 goals...........I mean we didn't even do that to Clemer :laugh:

He doesn't want to hurt his stats now.

thats what i really hate about him. he wont play when it goes rough, and doesnt he not play the flyers or toronto?

when lundy is in verse the flyer or leafs they light him up big time, IMO thats not a #1 goalie if your afraid to play certain teams

when lundy is in verse the flyer or leafs they light him up big time, IMO thats not a #1 goalie if your afraid to play certain teams

I don't get why the Devils can't do that... it's mind bottling.

I don't get why the Devils can't do that... it's mind bottling.

http://fusilly.com/shop/images/mindbottling_thumb.gif


:D

I was so out of it last night I had no idea the Rangers got slammed by Florida.

I don't get why the Devils can't do that... it's mind bottling.

Is that like when things are so crazy it gets your thoughts all trapped, like in a bottle?

I was so out of it last night I had no idea the Rangers got slammed by Florida.

they played today at 1 :laugh:

they played today at 1 :laugh:

:help::help::help:

I don't get why the Devils can't do that... it's mind bottling.

lundqvist is in their heads, no doubt about it. Gionta is clueless when playing the rangers, its starting to piss me off because no one knows how to shoot high where lundqvsit is clearly weak

lundqvist is in their heads, no doubt about it. Gionta is clueless when playing the rangers, its starting to piss me off because no one knows how to shoot high where lundqvsit is clearly weak

Ya they don't shot high or make him move at all.................Pisses me off that they allow him to just go down and sit there with his big pads.

Elias special on NHL Network right now.

Ya they don't shot high or make him move at all.................Pisses me off that they allow him to just go down and sit there with his big pads.

Yeah, he looked really awful just sitting their in that butterfly on that 3rd Florida goal.

I've given Henrik Lundqvist the benefit of the doubt and have already acknowledged his excellent skill that I don't just pass off as being because of his pads.

But I've lost respect for him now, first after that controversy from the Vancouver game 2 weeks ago (in which there was a question on if he decided to pull himself out or if the the decision to pull him was made by that chewing gum snapping pompous jerk Tom Rennie.) and now this game tonight.

If you want to be pulled or allow yourself to be pulled after going down by a not so insurmountable score of 3-0 to the less than lethal Florida Panthers, at home nonetheless, then you have no business of being a Vezina candidate, let alone a starting goaltender in the NHL.

I always thought Brodeur was mean for saying that Lundqvist was "weird" in that SI article several years ago, but I am starting to believe that it perhaps might be true after all.

I hope Parise can score such a beautiful goal against Lundqvist, that he decides to pull himself when being down 1-0.

marty knows his ****, so if Lundqvist is weird then he is weird


:nod:

Lundqvist is a good goalie, but he really is weak mentally. The man has such a huge ego, he can't stand being down 3-0...and his coach probably also knows that Lundqvist folds with a 3-0 deficit. He knows he won't give them that big stop, because he gives up when he gets lit up.

I've seen Marty, Luongo and Nabokov stand on their heads with 3-0, 4-0 and 5-1 deficits and let their teams get back into it. Nabokov allowed 2 goals in the first 2 minutes vs Phoenix the other night, but stayed in there and was awesome throughout the game. Lundqvist would've pulled himself after that second goal, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind about that.

Like someone else mentioned, Lundqvist also doesn't play vs certain teams because he's affraid of them...Philly, Toronto etc. As long as he continues to do what he's been doing he can't be viewed as one of the top 3-4 goaltenders in the league. He's just mentally weak.

Lundqvist is a good goalie, but he really is weak mentally. The man has such a huge ego, he can't stand being down 3-0...and his coach probably also knows that Lundqvist folds with a 3-0 deficit. He knows he won't give them that big stop, because he gives up when he gets lit up.

I've seen Marty, Luongo and Nabokov stand on their heads with 3-0, 4-0 and 5-1 deficits and let their teams get back into it. Nabokov allowed 2 goals in the first 2 minutes vs Phoenix the other night, but stayed in there and was awesome throughout the game. Lundqvist would've pulled himself after that second goal, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind about that.

Like someone else mentioned, Lundqvist also doesn't play vs certain teams because he's affraid of them...Philly, Toronto etc. As long as he continues to do what he's been doing he can't be viewed as one of the top 3-4 goaltenders in the league. He's just mentally weak.

I like when the coach calls Marty over and is like: "you want to stay in? Or go?" Then Marty puts his helmet on and gets back in net.

Bad ass.

This friends, is all kinds of messed up.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=578322

I would like to critique and take Lundqvist down a peg but can we ****ing beat the guy once? Like how the Rangers woke us up in 1994, its like we woke Henrik up in 2006.
Border-line illegal equipment or not, he has our number and for some reason is in our heads.

yea i would really love to destroy Lundy and the Rangers next friday night

no homo

yea i would really love to destroy Lundy and the Rangers next friday night

no homo

Does it involve a nice dinner, a pillow and chloroform?

thats what i really hate about him. he wont play when it goes rough, and doesnt he not play the flyers or toronto?



Like someone else mentioned, Lundqvist also doesn't play vs certain teams because he's affraid of them...Philly, Toronto etc. As long as he continues to do what he's been doing he can't be viewed as one of the top 3-4 goaltenders in the league. He's just mentally weak.

Wait,,,what? Is this really true that he refuses to play against the Flyers or Leafs, because I have a hard time believing it as that would fall into the "bizarre" category. So I took 10 minutes to look this up and here's what I found.

There really arent enough data points to test for this year, but your "Valiquette hypothesis" does hold so far. It seems that if the Rangers do this as a strategy, it started around the turn of 2008, because Valiquette has played 7/8 of these matchups since that time. So I dont think we can call this myth "busted" or not, because there just isnt enough data yet, although I will admit 7/8 for a backup goalie that only plays about 15 games a year does look impressive.

THIS YEAR
October 11 - Floppers - Valiquette (W)
October 17 - Leafs - Valiquette (W)
November 1 -Leafs - Valiquette (L)

LAST YEAR
March 25 - Floppers - Swedish Staypuff (L)
March 21 - Floppers - Valiquette (L)
March 2 - Floppers - Valiquette (W)
February 9 - Floppers - Valiquette (W)
January 31 - Floppers - Valiquette (W)
January 10 - Floppers - Swedish Staypuff (L)
December 6 - Leafs - Swedish Staypuff (L and pulled)
November 15 - Floppers - Swedish Staypuff (W)
November 10 - Leafs - Valiquette (W)
November 5 - Floppers - Swedish Staypuff (W)
October 27 - Leafs - Swedish Staypuff (L)

yea i would really love to destroy Lundy and the Rangers next friday night

no homo

I'm going to be there, and that's usually bad news for the Devils.

I'm going to be there, and that's usually bad news for the Devils.

The last time you were there, we beat you guys!! :p: (Even though Ovy scored with 1 second left)

The last time you were there, we beat you guys!! :p: (Even though Ovy scored with 1 second left)

I have been to 4 games at the Rock, and the team I was cheering for has lost every time.

Caps have lost twice to the Devils. Devils have lost to the Rangers and Ducks.

I have been to 4 games at the Rock, and the team I was cheering for has lost every time.

Caps have lost twice to the Devils. Devils have lost to the Rangers and Ducks.

I say you jump the first Staten Island Tony you find and steal his Statue of Liberty Lindros jersey.

I have been to 4 games at the Rock, and the team I was cheering for has lost every time.

Caps have lost twice to the Devils. Devils have lost to the Rangers and Ducks.

Well, how about you root for the Rangers then next Friday? :sarcasm:

Wait,,,what? Is this really true that he refuses to play against the Flyers or Leafs, because I have a hard time believing it as that would fall into the "bizarre" category. So I took 10 minutes to look this up and here's what I found.

There really arent enough data points to test for this year, but your "Valiquette hypothesis" does hold so far. It seems that if the Rangers do this as a strategy, it started around the turn of 2008, because Valiquette has played 7/8 of these matchups since that time. So I dont think we can call this myth "busted" or not, because there just isnt enough data yet, although I will admit 7/8 for a backup goalie that only plays about 15 games a year does look impressive.

THIS YEAR
October 11 - Floppers - Valiquette (W)
October 17 - Leafs - Valiquette (W)
November 1 -Leafs - Valiquette (L)

LAST YEAR
March 25 - Floppers - Swedish Staypuff (L)
March 21 - Floppers - Valiquette (L)
March 2 - Floppers - Valiquette (W)
February 9 - Floppers - Valiquette (W)
January 31 - Floppers - Valiquette (W)
January 10 - Floppers - Swedish Staypuff (L)
December 6 - Leafs - Swedish Staypuff (L and pulled)
November 15 - Floppers - Swedish Staypuff (W)
November 10 - Leafs - Valiquette (W)
November 5 - Floppers - Swedish Staypuff (W)
October 27 - Leafs - Swedish Staypuff (L)


flyers get physical with lundqvist and it takes him off his game, I don't know why the leafs own him but I demand a spy to go in there and steal their secrets

i nominate jack bauer

I was so out of it last night I had no idea the Rangers got slammed by Florida.

Most fun I've had in awhile watching "Rangers in 60"... Just pure joy.

Wait,,,what? Is this really true that he refuses to play against the Flyers or Leafs, because I have a hard time believing it as that would fall into the "bizarre" category. So I took 10 minutes to look this up and here's what I found.

There really arent enough data points to test for this year, but your "Valiquette hypothesis" does hold so far. It seems that if the Rangers do this as a strategy, it started around the turn of 2008, because Valiquette has played 7/8 of these matchups since that time. So I dont think we can call this myth "busted" or not, because there just isnt enough data yet, although I will admit 7/8 for a backup goalie that only plays about 15 games a year does look impressive.

THIS YEAR
October 11 - Floppers - Valiquette (W)
October 17 - Leafs - Valiquette (W)
November 1 -Leafs - Valiquette (L)

LAST YEAR
March 25 - Floppers - Swedish Staypuff (L)
March 21 - Floppers - Valiquette (L)
March 2 - Floppers - Valiquette (W)
February 9 - Floppers - Valiquette (W)
January 31 - Floppers - Valiquette (W)
January 10 - Floppers - Swedish Staypuff (L)
December 6 - Leafs - Swedish Staypuff (L and pulled)
November 15 - Floppers - Swedish Staypuff (W)
November 10 - Leafs - Valiquette (W)
November 5 - Floppers - Swedish Staypuff (W)
October 27 - Leafs - Swedish Staypuff (L)

I think they let Valli play Toronto so his family can see him play. And he usually plays well against Philli

I think they let Valli play Toronto so his family can see him play.
That is a dumb reason to play any player. It's like not trading an overpaid midget because he just built a new house.

I would like to critique and take Lundqvist down a peg but can we ****ing beat the guy once? Like how the Rangers woke us up in 1994, its like we woke Henrik up in 2006.
Border-line illegal equipment or not, he has our number and for some reason is in our heads.

The Rangers have been in Devils head. It didn't help that the players themselves took them lightly last season and actually Brodeur has been soft on them, letting in some flubs. Dawes and Dubinsky have had their numbers.

Lundqvist is beatable and hardly challenged by the Devils.

That is a dumb reason to play any player. It's like not trading an overpaid midget because he just built a new house.

Trade the Italian lawn jockey before he walks.

Trade the Italian lawn jockey before he walks.

sadly, we know thats gonna happen as it is the norm. im more afraid of re-signing him.

sadly, we know thats gonna happen as it is the norm. im more afraid of re-signing him.

Yeah, Lou takes the whole concept of loyalty to the umptenth degree. I'm with you on your fears. I was wishing that Pando opted for greener pastures and or went to NY to became Gary to NY's Ace.

Would Lou even want to resign Gio this summer?

Would Lou even want to resign Gio this summer?
not at the 4 mil he has right now.

I would resign him, only if he takes a nice big pay cut.

Should I watch the Colorado game or Jurassic Park?

Should I watch the Colorado game or Jurassic Park?

Jurassic Park and pray for another sequel!

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kane and toews <3

no homo

thats a pretty sweet commercial

goddamnit canucks, my vcash is depending on you

EDIT: Vancouver in the third = FAIL

kane and toews <3

no homo

Hmmmmm......I dunno. The fact that you used a "<3" has me wondering.

goddamnit canucks, my vcash is depending on you

EDIT: Vancouver in the third = FAIL

Woo go columbus!

goddamnit canucks, my vcash is depending on you

EDIT: Vancouver in the third = FAIL

that's bad karma for you

that's bad karma for you

:cry:

What does vcash get you anyway?

more Vcash

more Vcash

which in turn buys you...

which in turn buys you...

street cred yo

street cred yo

HF Needs free **** for vcash.

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That shot of Kane and Toews walking out was sweet.

I think they let Valli play Toronto so his family can see him play. And he usually plays well against Philli

thats not true at all, actually i think lundqvist had a talk with renney that he wouldnt want to play the leafs after they put 7 on him that one time and he ended up taking himself out (like the nucks game)

thats not true at all, actually i think lundqvist had a talk with renney that he wouldnt want to play the leafs after they put 7 on him that one time and he ended up taking himself out (like the nucks game)

Well, that's what they told me on MSG, excuse me for trying to defend Lundqvist

Saw this on the Habs board, while I hate Avery with a passion, this is funny and not really suspension worthy...

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=258182&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

"I am really happy to be back in Calgary, I love Canada," Avery said on camera this morning in Calgary. "I just want to comment on how it's become like a common thing in the NHL for guys to fall in love with my sloppy seconds. I don't know what that's about. Enjoy the game tonight."

Saw this on the Habs board, while I hate Avery with a passion, this is funny and not really suspension worthy...

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=258182&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

NHL has no clue how to get ratings, im not going to lie, i would have watched the game just to see what Phaenuef would have done to avery.

Saw this on the Habs board, while I hate Avery with a passion, this is funny and not really suspension worthy...

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=258182&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main
I am sure Avery wasnt Cuthbert's first, and Phaneuf would literally kill him on the ice.
He should worry about Iginla doing it first.

The NHL is lame. I guess they didn't want a highly rated game.

Avery probably said it to get suspended, Iginla would honestly rip his jaw off.

Good for the NHL. The game (and its ratings) would have been a let down anyways. **** him and his lame ass attention whoring.

Well, that's what they told me on MSG, excuse me for trying to defend Lundqvist

Im sure MSG will tell the truth about lundy, they are brainwashing you i tell ya :sarcasm:

And why are you defending a weirdo :rant::sarcasm:

Im sure MSG will tell the truth about lundy, they are brainwashing you i tell ya :sarcasm:

And why are you defending a weirdo :rant::sarcasm:

I really like Lundy despite the obvious cons about him. I think he's a great guy with the rotten luck of playing for the rangers:)

NHL has no clue how to get ratings, im not going to lie, i would have watched the game just to see what Phaenuef would have done to avery.

The NHL is lame. I guess they didn't want a highly rated game.

I do believe that the NBA or NFL would have "pretended" to miss this and acted after the game, but how is this a suspension anyway?

He should get a nice fine and that's it. My guess is the NHL is just being politically correct as the "sloppy seconds" comment could be deemed as sexist or insensitive to women.

I do believe that the NBA or NFL would have "pretended" to miss this and acted after the game, but how is this a suspension anyway?

He should get a nice fine and that's it. My guess is the NHL is just being politically correct as the "sloppy seconds" comment could be deemed as sexist or insensitive to women.

not trying to be an ass but are there any women (besides avery and the queen of course) on the ice that it would effect

for all we know avery could have been talking about food :sarcasm:

I'm disappointed..

I was looking forward to the game

It's always such a bold move to make a statement like the below after the league has already acted :sarcasm: :shakehead

"Had the league not have suspended him, the Dallas Stars would have," Hicks stated. "This organization will not tolerate such behaviour, especially from a member of our hockey team. We hold our team to a higher standard and will continue to do so."

I honestly think Avery is gay.

booooo NHL i wanted to see the Dion destroy Avery

Sean Avery talks like Kermit the Frog.


I hate the ****ing ****** but I still think this suspension is ****ing stupid. Beyond stupid.

Sean Avery talks like Kermit the Frog.


I hate the ****ing ****** but I still think this suspension is ****ing stupid. Beyond stupid.

That got a good laugh out of me. And yeah, I wish they at least waited until after this game to suspend him. I wanted to see him bleed.

I hate the ****ing ****** but I still think this suspension is ****ing stupid. Beyond stupid.


When I heard about this I thought so too, but after seeing the actual FULL TAPE of this, I've 100% backtracked and think a suspension is warranted.

Why?

Because he actively sought out the camera and made this statement as "prepared remarks", which is obvious from the below clip. He meant to say it and meant to create a big media event around himself, because he as usual thinks he's bigger than the game. This wasnt the typical instance where a guy gets quoted not realizing a reporter will print it (as I had suspected).... he WANTED it in print.

The best quote from this clip is from Turco...... "The show continues" :biglaugh: The viewer is left with the impression that Turco is disgusted and loathes Avery.

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I do believe that the NBA or NFL would have "pretended" to miss this and acted after the game, but how is this a suspension anyway?

He should get a nice fine and that's it. My guess is the NHL is just being politically correct as the "sloppy seconds" comment could be deemed as sexist or insensitive to women.

I think part of this has been building with Avery probably making these type remarks on the ice (we know he has said something about Marty and his divorce). Another part, and this was brought up by Versus, is the NHL covering their own ass. If Avery went out there and something happened (say a cheapshot injured him) it would look bad for the league.

When I heard about this I thought so too, but after seeing the actual FULL TAPE of this, I've 100% backtracked and think a suspension is warranted.

Why?

Because he actively sought out the camera and made this statement as "prepared remarks", which is obvious from the below clip. He meant to say it and meant to create a big media event around himself, because he as usual thinks he's bigger than the game. This wasnt the typical instance where a guy gets quoted not realizing a reporter will print it (as I had suspected).... he WANTED it in print.

The best quote from this clip is from Turco...... "The show continues" :biglaugh: The viewer is left with the impression that Turco is disgusted and loathes Avery.

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Honestly, that clip makes me embarrassed to be a fan of the NHL...

"You got a camera?" Like a ****ing moth to a flame.

It's always such a bold move to make a statement like the below after the league has already acted :sarcasm: :shakehead

As soon as Hull is stripped of his co-GM duties, which soon could be happening if you believe HNIC Hot Stove rumors, I wouldn't be surprised if Avery finds himself on waivers. He was signed to that contract because he is good friends with Hull (Avery lived with Hull his rookie year in Detroit). Apparently, most of the Stars players hate him and it has disrupted that locker room. I could see the Stars just eating that contract and burying him in the minors (I don't see a team trading for him). Remember, they also don't have a minor league affiliate of their own this year so they don't have to worry about them corrupting their young prospects. I'm sure they can find a minor league taker consider the higher need to sell tickets at that level.

I still don't think the comments themselves are THAT serious. Maybe not necessary. Well, definitely not. But at the end of the day it wasn't really that vulgar. Plus, the league has a serious problem if it's concerned about kids looking up to that ****ing toad.

Also, it has dawned upon me. Maybe this is grounds for throwing Gary Betman out of the league since his conduct has been far more detrimental to the game as a whole. :nod:

I HATE SEAN AVERY WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING!! :rant:

Also an aside: Stamkos REALLY isn't that good. This kid couldn't be less impressive.

Dallas goes from perennial playoff team to bottom-feeder the season Sean Avery enters the locker room.
Hmm