Claude Julien...

...Were we stupid to get rid of him when we did? (Second in the Eastern Conference, three games before the playoffs.)

I ask, merely because his substitute doesn't seem to be having much luck with success anymore.

What with Boston's incredible record, do you think they got a steal? Is Boston's current record a fluke? Would we be better with Julien behind the bench now that Brodeur is out? (I know Julien and Brodeur weren't very close.)

I didn't like Julien, and Boston is a good team so I don't give him much credit. I had no problem getting rid of him when we did, we wouldn't have beaten Ottawa either way

if we had Julien right now we'd be scoring WAY less, and thats scary

If we had Chara manning the backline, we'd be oooodles ahead of where we are.

Could you imagine.

Chara-Martin
Salvador-Oduya
White-Greene

His system is garbage. Didn't like the way they played last season?

That being said, he has that team playing well, and I think they have more talent up front than us. And as said, we don't have a Chara. He's good with young players, Zajac and Parise played well for him (but I also don't know that they were forced to do the same things the vets did.) and they have some young players, especially Kessel and Lucic, that they're trying to grow.

With this vet team? I dunno, I think it would be a disaster.

My favorite Julien moment is when he made a crack about Devils attendance, when the team he coaches drew less fans. Good barb Claude, ouch.

My favorite Julien moment is when he made a crack about Devils attendance, when the team he coaches drew less fans. Good barb Claude, ouch.

What did he say? Was it after he got fired? Are you busy tonight?

What did he say? Was it after he got fired? Are you busy tonight?
When the Bruins played a game infront of like 3 people because of snowstorm. Juilen was like "I am used to it, I coached in New Jersey". This was the same season we outdrew the original six Boston Bruins by 1,000 fans a game.

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Julien would not have been able to overcome the injuries we've gone through. Let's see where the Bruins are when Thomas' .944 save percentage comes back to earth.

Wow speaking of the Bruins, they're down 3-2 to Buffalo.

Which normally isn't that big of a deal, except it's not even halfway through the first yet.

No. I mean, good for Julien and good for the Bruins if he's doing so well for them, but just compare our injured team with theirs (Chara and Gionta on the same team would be hilarious). Not to mention that it's still early in the season.

Didn't the players have a problem with Julien too?

Didn't the players have a problem with Julien too?

There were stories that the players just didnt respect him, in fact one rumor has it that John Madden fired a puck that either hit Julien or just missed him, and Julien didnt even do anything about it, while the team got a laugh out of it ????

I heard something with Gomez too.. I can't remember.. I'll have to look it up

I didn't like Julien, and Boston is a good team so I don't give him much credit. I had no problem getting rid of him when we did, we wouldn't have beaten Ottawa either way

A lot of people forget just how bad Boston was the first couple years after the lockout with mostly the same cast of characters though.

if we had Julien right now we'd be scoring WAY less, and thats scary

No we wouldn't. We've had the same unexciting, play for a 1-1 tie hockey under Sutter than under Julien. I don't get why Sutter gets a pass for this and Julien didn't.

A lot of people forget just how bad Boston was the first couple years after the lockout with mostly the same cast of characters though.



No we wouldn't. We've had the same unexciting, play for a 1-1 tie hockey under Sutter than under Julien. I don't get why Sutter gets a pass for this and Julien didn't.
Yep that 1-1 tie against Washington was boring.

...Were we stupid to get rid of him when we did? (Second in the Eastern Conference, three games before the playoffs.)

I ask, merely because his substitute doesn't seem to be having much luck with success anymore.

What with Boston's incredible record, do you think they got a steal? Is Boston's current record a fluke? Would we be better with Julien behind the bench now that Brodeur is out? (I know Julien and Brodeur weren't very close.)

absolutely not. julien is a decent coach for a team that has sucked for awhile and wants to bring back to respectibility, like boston. his style of coaching is awful in my opinion for todays nhl. my case in point was the rangers game last week. i don't think the devils were going anywhere with him. not saying he should have been fired 3 games before playoffs but i wasn't surprised either when it happened.

sutter needs more of a chance, he had a crap roster last year and many underachievers at that. this season it has been injuries, so he needs a much longer time to prove himself. i think this year's team is very good, and will be a real problem for other teams if they can make playoffs.

if you think the team plays the same style under sutter than they did under julien then you obviously arent watching the games

Yep that 1-1 tie against Washington was boring.

If you're going to play that game take a look at Boston's score against Buffalo tonight. Fact is this team's been downright awful offensively under Sutter and he gets almost no blame for it.

Everyone knows the real reason Lou fired him was because he wanted to clear the way for Sutter. If the Devils had won a round or two in the playoffs under Julien it would have been about impossible to fire him pr-wise.

You really want the guy from King of the Hill to do that?

You really want the guy from King of the Hill to do that?

Yup, mmm-hmm, I tell ya what

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I read FOX will no longer run King of the Hill, and MAD TV after this season

If you're going to play that game take a look at Boston's score against Buffalo tonight. Fact is this team's been downright awful offensively under Sutter and he gets almost no blame for it.

Everyone knows the real reason Lou fired him was because he wanted to clear the way for Sutter. If the Devils had won a round or two in the playoffs under Julien it would have been about impossible to fire him pr-wise.
The players were totally uninspired under Julien. They played without intensity for about 54 minutes every game until they realized that it was time to kick into gear. Their effort many nights was putrid. As that year progressed it became clear that he was not the right coach for this team.

He wasn't put into a great situation to succeed because everyone knew that Julien wasn't the guy the Devils really wanted. But if they played like they gave a damn he would've kept his job. He did NOT get the most out of his players.

And you don't think there was bad PR for firing Julien when Lou did? If they won a round and got smoked in the 2nd there would have been a lot less negative publicity than what happened. Coaches are fired after winning a round in the playoffs (Joel Quenneville, Ron Wilson). Not in the last week of the regular season.

The only thing Julien's system was good for was blowing third period leads.

The only thing Julien's system was good for was blowing third period leads.

and only playing in the last 5 minutes in the game.

i was so happy when he was fired, even if it was before the playoffs.

I think we wouldve lost in the first round with Julien.

A lot of people forget just how bad Boston was the first couple years after the lockout with mostly the same cast of characters though.



No we wouldn't. We've had the same unexciting, play for a 1-1 tie hockey under Sutter than under Julien. I don't get why Sutter gets a pass for this and Julien didn't.

i dont think you understand how tight juliens system is. we are playing a much more wide open style with sutter regardless if we score more or not

The players were totally uninspired under Julien. They played without intensity for about 54 minutes every game until they realized that it was time to kick into gear. Their effort many nights was putrid.

They do play with more effort under Sutter, I'll agree with that - though I've never seen a Devils team as unclutch as this one in terms of blowing leads and losing big games.

But what worries me about Sutter is yelling is ALL he's good at. That does get old after a while too. Plus he's shown signs of panicking this year (starting Clem three straight games? Come on).

They do play with more effort under Sutter, I'll agree with that - though I've never seen a Devils team as unclutch as this one in terms of blowing leads and losing big games.

But what worries me about Sutter is yelling is ALL he's good at. That does get old after a while too. Plus he's shown signs of panicking this year (starting Clem three straight games? Come on).

Nothing wrong with that!:D

Wow. go back and look at what was going on that year. It was the right move to get rid of him at the end of the year like that. We all know that this is Lou's team and when lou says that his team "isnt where we want to be at this point of the year, its the right move" they won the round. It was the right move. Claude Julien did not hold players accountable the way Lamaire, Burns, Lou, and Sutter do.

Claude Julien is a fine coach for winning regular season games. I don't want him as my coach anywhere near the playoffs.

if we had Julien right now we'd be scoring WAY less, and thats scary

The Bruins are the best offensive team in the East right now.

I dunno if anyone else heard this but the Boston GM was on XM204 the other day and he spoke about having to speak with Julien before this season to not play a conservative game, but rather open it up and use his youth to forecheck more and put a more exciting game on the ice.

They have and look at them now...

The Bruins are the best offensive team in the East right now.

thats because you have very talented offensive players on the bruins. we dont. and i dont think Julien would help at all.

Julien is the worst. Allow me to elaborate, he's a pushover and has worn out his welcome with two teams in and didn't last very long in Montreal and NJ. Now the Devils are a special case in which the players led a mutiny. He won't last long in Boston either.

Claude Julien is a fine coach for winning regular season games. I don't want him as my coach anywhere near the playoffs.

im not sure how you can justify that....alot of people ***** about julien since he was fired but the bottom line is he led us to one of the best regular seasons weve had....julien didnt get a chance to show how he could do in the playoffs with us, he almost led the 8 seed boston past the 1 seed montreal. other than that, he has only had 1 experience in the playoffs

I dunno if anyone else heard this but the Boston GM was on XM204 the other day and he spoke about having to speak with Julien before this season to not play a conservative game, but rather open it up and use his youth to forecheck more and put a more exciting game on the ice.

They have and look at them now...

Whereas here he tried to open it up the first 10 or so games and everyone was screaming and yelling about how can he have defensemen pinch and change the system so it's almost as if he wound up saying, you want conservative well I'll give you all you want and then some.

Yeah he was too much of a pushover here, but from what I understand of the Montreal deal part of the reason he was relieved there was because he wanted to go with Huet in goal and management wanted the high-priced Theodore to play.

Im not too upset about him leaving, but i would rather have him over Sutter. His Style of play could have helped us against Ottawa, but i still think we would have lost that series.

Im not too upset about him leaving, but i would rather have him over Sutter. His Style of play could have helped us against Ottawa, but i still think we would have lost that series.

I don't think we would have gotten past Tampa with Julien.

I don't think we would have gotten past Tampa with Julien.

Thats Kinda pushing it.

Boston has a truck-load of talent and is basically one veteran defenseman away from being the favorite in the East, in my opinion, and are sitting pretty good as they are. This team fell into his hands.

they arent a favorite whatsoever with tim thomas in goal IMO

i know hes been amazing so far but still

Im not too upset about him leaving, but i would rather have him over Sutter. His Style of play could have helped us against Ottawa, but i still think we would have lost that series.

They played his strategy against Ottawa. Lou didn't exactly rip things up, both seasons he coached they played the same exact system that the fired/quit coach ran.

And yes, I agree that they would have lost to Tampa.... they came damn close as is.
That OT goes the other way and you can forget about it.